Downfall

[zombiewolf]

This is a VERY differnet war film.
Hitler is made human

[mr chris]

Different but very well shot and very watchable in my opinon :yep:

[STEED]

I really like that scene when Hitler goes into a rage and throws his coloured pencils down and declares the war is lost, the times I read that in books. Classic film one of the best films I have ever seen on the last days of the Berlin Battle. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[mr chris]

I really like that scene when Hitler goes into a rage and throws his coloured pencils down and declares the war is lost, the times I read that in books. Classic film one of the best films I have ever seen on the last days of the Berlin Battle. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Gotta agree with you there Steed. I really thought the shots of when everyone in the cellar is haveing a huge party and outside the city is falling apart was very well done. It just made me thing they did not want to face up to what was going to happen to them so they tryed to lose themselfs in drink. Was glad the truedel Jungel made it out safe she just seem to be a rabbit caught in the headlights.

[flintlock]

I really enjoyed this movie a lot. It's a very well cast film, and it certainly left an impact on me. I recall all the controversy surrounding it before it was even released.

Highly recommended.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

It is a tremendous film. It has almost the same impact as Das Boot in terms of telling the war from a different side. Its not done enough, in my opinion

[ReallyDedPoet]

It is a tremendous film. It has almost the same impact as Das Boot in terms of telling the war from a different side. Its not done enough, in my opinion

Comparing to Das Boot hmmm, have to check this out:up:

[STEED]

It is a tremendous film. It has almost the same impact as Das Boot in terms of telling the war from a different side. Its not done enough, in my opinion

Hey KP you seen STALINGRAD?

[DAB]

Was glad the truedel Jungel made it out safe she just seem to be a rabbit caught in the headlights.

I would point out that the real Frau Jungel didn't make it out safe, that was dramatic licence on the part of the film makers

And some of her actions by her own admission are controversial and ambigious. Downfall is one of the best films about the last war made but its not completely accurate and one or two of its choices for hero's are 'interesting'

[Kapitan_Phillips]

It is a tremendous film. It has almost the same impact as Das Boot in terms of telling the war from a different side. Its not done enough, in my opinion
Hey KP you seen STALINGRAD?


No, is it any good?

[STEED]

Read it here

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/

[flintlock]

Stalingrad is a great movie. I own it on DVD, though my only complaint is the quality of the digital tranfer is horrible (Fox Lorber), and doesn't do this fantastic film justice. I would love to see another studio take this film and do a quality transfer.

Took a lot of restraint not to mention Criterion again.

Opps.

[bookworm_020]

I've see Stalingrad and thought it was great. I'll have to get Downfall out on DVD. Might do that later this week.:up:

[CCIP]

I should like to get Stalingrad :hmm:

As for Downfall - one of my favorite movies ever, certainly a masterpiece of German cinema on the same scale as Das Boot :yep:

One funny thing - the film was reportedly shot in St. Petersburg, Russia, which I agree sometimes looks a LOT like Berlin in 1945 (complete with the state of relative ruin in some parts) - a lot more so than today's Berlin, in fact!

[tedhealy]

If you liked Downfall, you'll like Conspiracy.

http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Kenneth-Branagh/dp/B00005YUO1/sr=8-1/qid=1172082066/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-3525255-5800146?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

[STEED]

If you liked Downfall, you'll like Conspiracy.

http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Kenneth-Branagh/dp/B00005YUO1/sr=8-1/qid=1172082066/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-3525255-5800146?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

That was a brilliant one off drama, my only draw back to it was the DVD Cover they messed up on Stanley Tucci rank as Eichmann, four studs=Major. What the heck is that stupid small one.

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[CCIP]

/adds Stalingrad and Conspiracy to his queue :huh:

[STEED]

One more to the list, Robert Carlyle as Hitler in his early years was a great drama.


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[flintlock]

Conspiracy is a great film.

HBO Original Films have some wonderful titles out. Another one of their films which I really enjoyed is called The Gathering Storm. Albert Finney as Winston Churchill really does deliver a superb performance.

Very much recommend.

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[Donner]

Conspiracy is a wonderfully made, well cast, and terribly disturbing movie. Not one time is a dead body seen, but the cold, calculating and matter-of-fact discussions about the 'Final Solution' sends chills up and down one's spine. :shifty:

[STEED]

Conspiracy is a great film.

HBO Original Films have some wonderul titles out. Another one of their films which I really enjoyed is called The Gathering Storm. Albert Finney as Winston Churchill really does deliver a superb performance.

Very much recommend.

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Yes indeed another good one and let us not forget the great performance from the late Ronnie Barker as Winston's butler. And of course Albert Finney as Winston Churchill a great performance.

[Iceman]

I wondered what you guys thought of this film...I watched it a few months ago and now have it recorded again.I thought it was a well made movie but wondered how accurate it was....It seems like it would have been pretty accurate in that many of Hitler's subordantes thought one thing yet couldn't do anything about the situation...just spiral down the drain as had happened....trippy movie.

[Dan D]

One more to the list, Robert Carlyle as Hitler in his early years was a great drama.


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I saw that one a few weeks ago on TV. Robert Carlyle doing the Hitler was fascinating.
It is interesting to watch a Hitler movie from Britain, a good one actually.

My own recommendation would be von Donnermarck's outstanding movie "The Life of Others" (Oscar for best foreign language film yesterday). It shows how the former East Germany, relatively tiny with 16 million people, was controlled by the East German Ministerium für Staatssicherheit (Stasi) that had about 90.000 employees and a network of hundreds of thousands unofficial employees who filed secret reports about co-workers, neighbours, friends and familiy members, voluntarily or because they were blackmailed to collaborate.

The same thing in "brown":
If you are more into Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo), then I would recommend "Sophie Scholl-the last days". This movie is based on the original Gestapo interrogation protocols that were rediscovered some years ago. Question (SS man Robert Mohr), anwer (Sophie Scholl).

[Heibges]

I really like that scene when Hitler goes into a rage and throws his coloured pencils down and declares the war is lost, the times I read that in books. Classic film one of the best films I have ever seen on the last days of the Berlin Battle. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Gotta agree with you there Steed. I really thought the shots of when everyone in the cellar is haveing a huge party and outside the city is falling apart was very well done. It just made me thing they did not want to face up to what was going to happen to them so they tryed to lose themselfs in drink. Was glad the truedel Jungel made it out safe she just seem to be a rabbit caught in the headlights.

This was really a great movie. I liked how the theme of loyalty was explored. In this regard in reminded me a lot of Oberst Redl.

I always laugh when I see folks who are supposed to be in charge throwing things. I know in the Army showing outward signs of frustration is seriously frowned upon, and can really tank you on your efficiency report. From my friends who attended Ranger School, I also heard that throwing you canteen, ruck, or helmet is a good way to get yourself "voted" out of Ranger School.

[Heibges]

Conspiracy is a great film.

HBO Original Films have some wonderul titles out. Another one of their films which I really enjoyed is called The Gathering Storm. Albert Finney as Winston Churchill really does deliver a superb performance.

Very much recommend.

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Yes indeed another good one and let us not forget the great performance from the late Ronnie Barker as Winston's butler. And of course Albert Finney as Winston Churchill a great performance.

HBO definitely does some great stuff.

I thought Conspiracy was good, but not as good as Downfall.

The Gathering Storm I thought was a dry.

I would also recommend Stalin with Robert Duvall, also by HBO Films. My favorite part of the movie is the Nikita Krushchev character. In every scene he is eating, drinking, laughing, and generally spitting all at the same time. He's a total idiot. Until, a scene in the bathroom towards the end of the movie, when his face become totally serious, and totally deadpan says basically that acting like an idiot is how he survives.

[Heibges]

One more to the list, Robert Carlyle as Hitler in his early years was a great drama.


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I saw that one a few weeks ago on TV. Robert Carlyle doing the Hitler was fascinating.
It is interesting to watch a Hitler movie from Britain, a good one actually.

My own recommendation would be von Donnermarck's outstanding movie "The Life of Others" (Oscar for best foreign language film yesterday). It shows how the former East Germany, relatively tiny with 16 million people, was controlled by the East German Ministerium für Staatssicherheit (Stasi) that had about 90.000 employees and a network of hundreds of thousands unofficial employees who filed secret reports about co-workers, neighbours, friends and familiy members, voluntarily or because they were blackmailed to collaborate.

The same thing in "brown":
If you are more into Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo), then I would recommend "Sophie Scholl-the last days". This movie is based on the original Gestapo interrogation protocols that were rediscovered some years ago. Question (SS man Robert Mohr), anwer (Sophie Scholl).

I would suggest Mephisto, about an actor in Germany in the 20's and 30's, and Oberst Redl, about a famous traitor in the Austro-Hungarian Army before and during WWI. I think there is actually a third movie in the trilogy, but I can' t think what it is. They are both directed by Istvan Szabo. And they both star Klaus Maria Brandauer.

Mephisto
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082736/

Oberst Redl aka Colonel Redl
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089716/

The third movie, which I have not seen is Hanussen (1988)

Hanussen
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095276/

[zombiewolf]

One more to the list, Robert Carlyle as Hitler in his early years was a great drama.



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Wow I must se this and Stalingrad thanks