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tener
02-13-07, 02:47 PM
hi all,does any one wot pc specks are needed to run sh4??
i,ve got sh3 runing with max settings at the mo but my pc starts to feel a bit pushed when the action starts.

flintlock
02-13-07, 03:15 PM
Ubi's official specs at this stage (from one of their sites):

Win2K, WinXP or Vista
2.0GHz processor
512MB RAM
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card with 128MB RAM
Vertex Shader 2.0 and Pixel Shader 2.0+ support
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card

Oh, and welcome to subsim. ;)

TDK1044
02-13-07, 04:48 PM
I can almost guarantee you that the minimum RAM will jump to 1 GIG a week or so before release.

flintlock
02-13-07, 04:51 PM
I simply posted Ubi's published specs. I wouldn't even bother attempting to launch SH4 under those specs. I want to experience fluid motion, not watch a slide show.

TDK1044
02-13-07, 05:11 PM
I simply posted Ubi's published specs. I wouldn't even bother attempting to launch SH4 under those specs. I want to experience fluid motion, not watch a slide show.

:rotfl:

bookworm_020
02-13-07, 06:09 PM
What about a best of clips show???:D

hyperion2206
02-13-07, 08:28 PM
What about a best of clips show???:D

You could invite your neighbours and show them your first 500 shots showing nothing else but your sub moving 300yds.:p:rotfl:

tener
02-13-07, 11:45 PM
looks like it might be upgrade time then.:cry:

Pit
02-14-07, 03:00 PM
I still want to know if it will run on a 64 bit system.... SHIII doesn't!!!

Crow
02-14-07, 03:14 PM
I still want to know if it will run on a 64 bit system.... SHIII doesn't!!!

shiit , the usaf has crap computers :damn:

mebbe u should join the marines :smug:

Pit
02-14-07, 03:17 PM
I still want to know if it will run on a 64 bit system.... SHIII doesn't!!!

shiit , the usaf has crap computers :damn:

mebbe u should join the marines :smug:

:gulp: Geeeze... thanks!!! :rotfl: :fff:

RickC Sniper
02-14-07, 07:19 PM
I still want to know if it will run on a 64 bit system.... SHIII doesn't!!!

shiit , the usaf has crap computers :damn:

mebbe u should join the marines :smug:




:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:p

Ark
02-15-07, 01:41 AM
I still want to know if it will run on a 64 bit system.... SHIII doesn't!!!

shiit , the usaf has crap computers :damn:

mebbe u should join the marines :smug:

Most high-school football teams have better funding than the Marine Corp. lol

Pit
02-15-07, 01:43 AM
Most high-school football teams have better funding than the Marine Corp. lol

Amen brother... AMEN!!! :arrgh!: :rotfl:

aso544
02-16-07, 03:06 PM
Looking to upgrade my computer to play this game in all its glory (Maxed Out If Possible). What do I need to do as my "computer-fu" is very weak!!!!!!

Here is my current system...

Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.20 GHz
1GB RAM
RADON X300 SE Series Graphics Card , 128 MB (Internal DAC 400 MHz)

Thanks for any and all help!!! Come on 3/27/07!!!!

ASO544

TDK1044
02-16-07, 03:13 PM
Your processor is OK. Your RAM is just OK, assuming you meant to write 1 GIG, but the game is graphic intensive and will run much smoother with 2 GIGS of RAM. Your video card will not handle this game at all. You need to upgrade to a mid range NVIDIA or ATI card. I would recommend either the NVIDIA 7600 GT or 7900 series cards.

CruiseTorpedo
02-16-07, 04:07 PM
Aso, check out this piece of hardware for your upgrading needs:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775Dual-VSTA

http://legitreviews.com/article/377/1/

If that second link doesnt work enter this in a yahoo search:

775Dual-VSTA legit review

The WosMan
02-16-07, 05:36 PM
I always build my own PCs. I come in here frequently and always see people wondering about upgrading their computer. While the minimum specs have been bumped up, I swear I can remember the Silent Hunter IV developers saying the game will actually run better than Silent Hunter 3 and load faster. If you think about it, it makes sense. Sure they have upgraded the graphics, better models, lighting, water effects, transparancy, shadows, more poly's in the crew models but it is still the Silent Hunter 3 engine and I am sure they have had a lot of time to tweek the code and improve the performance.

That being said I just set a friend up with the following system. I suggest using reliable suppliers like www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com) to purchase good computer hardware. I like newegg because they run deals all of the time and they often have free shipping for some items here in the States and they also have awesome rebates:

CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor @ 2.6GHz $229.00 at newegg with free 3 day shipping right now

Motherboard ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T89 $74.99 @ newegg

VideoCard eVGA GeForce 8800GTS w/ 640MB $359.99 after a $30 mail in rebate @ newegg

Power Supply THERMALTAKE 500W Power Supply 59.99 after $20 mail in rebate free shipping

RAM OCZ Gold Series 2GB (PC2 5400) Dual 192.99 @ newegg

You can figure out the rest soundcard, harddrive, case etc........oh yeah here is an awesome computer monitor, perfect for this game:
ViewSonic VX922 Black/Silver 19" 2ms LCD $259.99 w/ 3 days free shipping.

stabiz
02-16-07, 06:40 PM
I always build my own PCs. I come in here frequently and always see people wondering about upgrading their computer. While the minimum specs have been bumped up, I swear I can remember the Silent Hunter IV developers saying the game will actually run better than Silent Hunter 3 and load faster. If you think about it, it makes sense. Sure they have upgraded the graphics, better models, lighting, water effects, transparancy, shadows, more poly's in the crew models but it is still the Silent Hunter 3 engine and I am sure they have had a lot of time to tweek the code and improve the performance.

I wish what you write here was true, but its not. I can GUARANTEE you the game will use more soup than SH3, its the way computer games work. More cool stuff = higher requirements.

Use Medieval 2: Total War as an example (not exactly the same, but kinda). The game is pretty much Rome: Total War set in the middle ages with much better graphics. And yes, it made my old Rome-pc kneel and prey for mercy. I`m not saying SHIV will do that to the ones with lower end pc`s, but I wish you all would stop dreaming of better performance than in SH3, since you will only be massivly disappointed.

aso544
02-16-07, 06:59 PM
Your processor is OK. Your RAM is just OK, assuming you meant to write 1 GIG, but the game is graphic intensive and will run much smoother with 2 GIGS of RAM. Your video card will not handle this game at all. You need to upgrade to a mid range NVIDIA or ATI card. I would recommend either the NVIDIA 7600 GT or 7900 series cards.

Fixed....thanks!!
ASO544

Hartmann
02-16-07, 07:30 PM
I preffer buy the game and see how run in my computer than upgrade the pc before game release . :hmm:

Respect eye candy features , Far cry for example runs very well in a lower computer specs and the water and graphics are very nice, yes, i know that is not the same game and is not possible a fair comparation , but sometimes some game engines are better optimized than others for the same results.

The WosMan
02-16-07, 09:05 PM
Agree, Far Cry was a beautiful game when you had an awesome rig. I can't wait to see what Crysis is going to be like but I don't plan on upgrading my current system for another year since I have had it for one year now......I usually swap out motherboard, processor, video card, power supply, and RAM every 2 years but I keep the case, soundcard, and harddrives. I am running a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ on my current rig and I am not worried about Silent Hunter 4.....it should run fine.

flyingdane
02-16-07, 10:35 PM
Look man Space your words out...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/flyingdane/1244.gif

_Seth_
02-16-07, 10:44 PM
I always build my own PCs. I come in here frequently and always see people wondering about upgrading their computer. While the minimum specs have been bumped up, I swear I can remember the Silent Hunter IV developers saying the game will actually run better than Silent Hunter 3 and load faster. If you think about it, it makes sense. Sure they have upgraded the graphics, better models, lighting, water effects, transparancy, shadows, more poly's in the crew models but it is still the Silent Hunter 3 engine and I am sure they have had a lot of time to tweek the code and improve the performance.
I wish what you write here was true, but its not. I can GUARANTEE you the game will use more soup than SH3, its the way computer games work. More cool stuff = higher requirements.
:yep::yep::yep:

flyingdane
02-16-07, 10:55 PM
I always build my own PCs. I come in here frequently and always see people wondering about upgrading their computer. While the minimum specs have been bumped up, I swear I can remember the Silent Hunter IV developers saying the game will actually run better than Silent Hunter 3 and load faster. If you think about it, it makes sense. Sure they have upgraded the graphics, better models, lighting, water effects, transparancy, shadows, more poly's in the crew models but it is still the Silent Hunter 3 engine and I am sure they have had a lot of time to tweek the code and improve the performance.
I wish what you write here was true, but its not. I can GUARANTEE you the game will use more soup than SH3, its the way computer games work. More cool stuff = higher requirements.
:yep::yep::yep:

You Know SETH.. He is right..:hmm:

_Seth_
02-17-07, 01:16 AM
;).....

StandingCow
02-17-07, 01:24 AM
Well he IS right, yes.. but the game will be.. smoother..

There is no reason why the load times should be what they are with SH3, I think load times in SH4 will be shorter.

But, we shall see.

ReallyDedPoet
02-17-07, 09:11 AM
I preffer buy the game and see how run in my computer than upgrade the pc before game release . :hmm:

Respect eye candy features , Far cry for example runs very well in a lower computer specs and the water and graphics are very nice, yes, i know that is not the same game and is not possible a fair comparation , but sometimes some game engines are better optimized than others for the same results.

Same here, why spend the dough first. I'll wait as well and see how it runs on my current system.

badaboom
02-17-07, 09:31 AM
Hello,I'm running SHIII on a laptop with GWX and everything MAXed out,I thought I read in one of the forums that if you can run SHIII O.K. you can expect to run SHIV without to much trouble.....any truth to this?:)

flintlock
02-17-07, 10:03 AM
I'd say it's a fairly safe bet, yes.

It's possible you may need to run SH4 with some seetings at less than max, though again you may not. Difficult to be certain without seeing the laptop specs. Though I know there are some mighty powerful gaming laptops available: Alienware Area-51 m5790, Dell XPS M1710 and Rock's Xtreme CTX Pro to name but a few.

badaboom
02-17-07, 10:30 AM
:up: Thank You Sir!:up: I have a HP with a 1.58 ghz proccessor,1.5 gig of RAM and aATI RAD XPRESS graphics card,I bought it about 6months ago and I'm very happy with it's performance running SHIII,
I was looking at the the new trailer at gamespot and was ....WOWED .....by some of the graphics in it!!!!One shot in perticular of a look through the periscope just at the water line.....the water looks so real I thought it would spill out my screen:lol: LOL!!!!!!anyway that gave me some pause as now I'm wondering how well I'll do with SHIV.......Iguess I'll find out soon enough,thanks for the reply!!

TDK1044
02-17-07, 11:42 AM
When you strip away all the rhetoric and speculation regarding SH4, I think several things are now obvious.

First, in order to play the game with the look and feel of the movies that were made in the 50s about the war in the Pacific, which is what is being suggested as an option in this game, you’re going to need to play the game at the highest graphical settings. The kind of filtering needed in creating that effect would necessitate that.

Secondly, in SH3 it was simply a case of our sub versus a single ship, a couple of ships, a convoy or a task force. But in SH4, if the Devs adhere to historical reality....and I’m sure they will, then you will sometimes find yourself in the middle of a situation where an American Battle Group is engaging a Japanese Battle Group, and you are in the middle of it with your sub attacking the Japs. Imagine the external view of that scenario.

In my opinion therefore, SH4 will be the most visually impressive and also the most system resource hungry sub simulator ever made. Sure, the Devs will have made coding changes to help things as much as possible, but I think there is sometimes going to be more than twice the level of action going on in SH4 relative to what we saw in SH3.

If you were debating about upgrading your RAM and or video card, I’d do it. If you’re debating spending the extra $50 on the video card you really want, I’d go for it. I just did both of those things and I don’t think I’ll be sorry.

Come on March 13!!!!

hyperion2206
02-17-07, 11:47 AM
I will upgrade but I guess I'll have to spend more than 50 bucks:cry: I'll buy a nice 512 mb video card and 1GB extra RAM. Does anybody know a good card which does not cost more than 200€?

TDK1044
02-17-07, 11:56 AM
Gizzmoe is excellent with video cards. PM him. He's always been very helpful to me.

Gizzmoe
02-17-07, 12:05 PM
Does anybody know a good card which does not cost more than 200€?
The best card for around 200€ is the ATI X1950XT or the slightly cheaper X1950 Pro. I have the XT and I´m very happy with it.

StandingCow
02-17-07, 12:24 PM
I will upgrade but I guess I'll have to spend more than 50 bucks:cry: I'll buy a nice 512 mb video card and 1GB extra RAM. Does anybody know a good card which does not cost more than 200€?

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/02/06/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/

That should help you, and everybody else to choose a good card.

hyperion2206
02-17-07, 12:51 PM
Does anybody know a good card which does not cost more than 200€?
The best card for around 200€ is the ATI X1950XT or the slightly cheaper X1950 Pro. I have the XT and I´m very happy with it.

Thank you, I'll take that card into consideration.:up:

stabiz
02-17-07, 12:57 PM
The 7900GS is a very good card for low bucks. I canged it with a 7950GT and didnt feel that much of a boost.

Lt commander lare
02-17-07, 04:42 PM
hi i have the Ati radeon x 1600 pro and it works fine with silent hunter 3 and it surpassed the ram requirement in neal's review it says the graphic card requirement is the same and since my card works great with silent hunter 3 then silent hunter 4 wont be any problem right ?

lt commander lare

TDK1044
02-17-07, 05:11 PM
The 1600 pro will run the game...how well also depends on RAM and processor speed.

AJ!
02-17-07, 05:15 PM
To be honist i have no idea how much this game will require to run. Ubi say 2gb ram recommended which really throws me.... I mean i thought this was the same engine as SH3. I dont know how far they have gone with improvments in the game engine to get recommended specs like that but right now i think your card will do the job fine.

TDK1044
02-17-07, 05:55 PM
One Finnish site says that 512ram and CPU 1.7Ghz are min req. Video mem should be 128.

No way on this earth will those specs run SH4. Double all of that and you're at least in the ball park.

Mylander
02-17-07, 05:57 PM
Ha ha. I just posted about this: 4 words. Intel based power Mac. Dual 2.66 GHz processors, 2Gig Ram, and dual 256MB GPUs. It will eat SHIV for lunch. Expensive, but no more so than a high-end Dell, and far superior, more reliable, on and on and on...

Regards,

Andrew

Boris
02-17-07, 06:00 PM
Like I said in the other thread... expensive. What does it set you back, out of curiosity?

flintlock
02-17-07, 06:37 PM
One Finnish site says that 512ram and CPU 1.7Ghz are min req. Video mem should be 128. That may launch the game, but I'd imagine it certainly wouldn't make for a great gaming experience.

The minimum specs that Ubisoft lists are:

- Win2K, WinXP or Vista
- 2.0 GHz processor
- 512 MB RAM
- 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card with 128 MB RAM
- Vertex Shader 2.0 and Pixel Shader 2.0 support
- 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card

flintlock
02-17-07, 06:47 PM
A base Mac Pro is around $2500.00 USD
Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon "Woodcrest" processors
1GB memory (667MHz DDR2 fully-buffered DIMM ECC)
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT graphics with 256MB memory
250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7200-rpm hard drive1
16x double-layer SuperDriveAbove a typical and standard config (display is extra, though a nice 30" Cinema Display compliments it nicely).

Mylander
02-17-07, 10:21 PM
I ended up about $4K with a few upgrades - 2Gig RAM, Dual 512 HDs, and Dual 256MB GPUs, and the big monitor. BTW, windows lives on a separate physical drive from Mac OS X.

Andrew

TDK1044
02-17-07, 11:24 PM
I think you'll see the minimum RAM requirement jump to 1 GIG in early March.

StandingCow
02-17-07, 11:28 PM
I think you'll see the minimum RAM requirement jump to 1 GIG in early March.

Agreed. People should have at least that anyway. Really helps with games. 2 Gigs here, and I have used just about all of it before.

flintlock
02-17-07, 11:30 PM
Wouldn't surprise me in the least, TDK.

While I can appreciate that the 512MB RAM is a minimum, WinXP on it's own struggles with just 512 MB, let alone any apps that may be open in addition. 1GB certainly allows for a little more breathing room, but 2GB is a sweet spot (just referring to WinXP here).

StandingCow
02-18-07, 01:05 AM
Wouldn't surprise me in the least, TDK.

While I can appreciate that the 512MB RAM is a minimum, WinXP on it's own struggles with just 512 MB, let alone any apps that may be open in addition. 1GB certainly allows for a little more breathing room, but 2GB is a sweet spot (just referring to WinXP here).

Absolutly. I have heard people mention that you hit the sweet spot at 1.7 gigs.. *shrug* I can't speak from experience there, but 2 gigs is very nice.

Boris
02-18-07, 05:33 AM
Hmm, something similar, by putting your own parts together, would set you back a little less than 3000.
As much as I would love a Mac, I'm too financially challenged to afford one.

I'm a constant upgrader anyway. Haven't bought a new PC since 2002. Every single part has been gradually replaced by others since then, every one, including the case. But this way I always have a PC that satisfies me in it's performance, and I only have to pay little bits along the way.

stabiz
02-18-07, 06:46 AM
A base Mac Pro is around $2500.00 USD
Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon "Woodcrest" processors
1GB memory (667MHz DDR2 fully-buffered DIMM ECC)
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT graphics with 256MB memory
250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7200-rpm hard drive1
16x double-layer SuperDriveAbove a typical and standard config (display is extra, though a nice 30" Cinema Display compliments it nicely).

:o Thats insanely pricy. Is the case made of gold?

stabiz
02-18-07, 06:49 AM
2GB is almost a must these days.

TDK1044
02-18-07, 09:03 AM
I agree totally. If you want to run SH4 in all its glory then upgrade to 2 GIGS of RAM. I honestly think that 1 GIG systems may stutter a little in the middle of an all out exchange involving US and Japanese Battle Groups slugging it out with your sub in the middle of the action.

Gizzmoe
02-18-07, 09:10 AM
:o Thats insanely pricy.

Yup. $2500 for a less than mediocre gaming machine that´s maybe worth $800 is totally insane...

thefretmaster
02-18-07, 10:50 AM
hi all, my gaming rig is in need of a serious overhaul and it is probably cheaper to buy a new one. i have been putting some together on the net, can someone tell me which of these is the best for money, lifespan (i can upgrade parts eventually but would prefer it to last longer), and performance

1.
Gamers Athlon Dual Core 8800 (AMD Dual Core X2 4200 AM2 64 , 80GB SATA Hard Drive , 2048MB DDR2 MEMORY (667) - 2x 1024MB , 19Inch BTC Multimedia TFT Widescreen , 8800GTS Nvidia DDR DVI 640MB , CD Re-Writer & DVD Player combi , No Floppy Disk Drive , Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme sound card , Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic - £859.20

2.
Gamers Athlon 8800 (AMD Athlon 64 3800+ AM2 64 , 80GB SATA Hard Drive , 2048MB DDR2 MEMORY (667) - 2x 1024MB , Yuraku 19, 8800GTS Nvidia DDR DVI 640MB , CD Re-Writer & DVD Player combi , No Floppy Disk Drive , Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme sound card , Microsoft Windows Vista - £681.17

3.
Gamers AMD Athlon Dual Core 7950 Series (AMD Dual Core X2 4600 AM2 64 , 80GB SATA Hard Drive , 2048MB DDR2 MEMORY (667) - 2x 1024MB , 19Inch BTC Multimedia TFT Widescreen , 512Mb 7950GT Nvidia GDDR3 DUAL SLI DVI - HDTV , CD Re-Writer & DVD Player combi , No Floppy Disk Drive , Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme sound card , Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Inc SP2 ) - £820.33

also any suggestions on harware and such would be appreciated, thanks :up:

stabiz
02-18-07, 10:58 AM
I you are planning to spend alot, I would go for Intels Core2Duo (probably the 6600). I have the 7950GT 512MB, and its really good, but DX10 is coming.

Its all about what you want to spend.

Oh, go for Mist power supplys, and not below 500W.

thefretmaster
02-18-07, 12:19 PM
ok thanks for that
i have made another one, any thaughts?

its another amd x2 due to money

Gamers System AMD Dual Core (AMD Dual Core X2 5000 AM2 64 , 80GB SATA Hard Drive , 2048MB DDR2 MEMORY (667) - 2x 1024MB , 512Mb 7950GT Nvidia GDDR3 DUAL SLI DVI - HDTV , CD Re-Writer & DVD Player combi , No Floppy Disk Drive , Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme sound card , Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic (home) )

about £700

flintlock
02-18-07, 12:45 PM
I'd recommend you consider swapping the Athlon 64 X2 5000+ for the C2D E6600 processor. It's a just a few dollars more and well worth it for a better processor. Keep in mind that currently NVIDIA's Vista drivers have the potential to cause you a lot of grief (though hopefully this will be remedied soon).

Boris
02-18-07, 12:58 PM
Sure you don't want a bigger harddrive? 80 gig is not much these days.

thefretmaster
02-18-07, 01:05 PM
i have an external hd that suits what i want. so you're saying that xp is still a better option atm? also can you explain the processor you mentioned please? i have not heard of it

aah sorry just found it intel, lol didnt realise

flintlock
02-18-07, 01:23 PM
The C2D I referred to is Intel's new Core 2 Duo.

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/index.htm

You can certainly go with Vista, just be prepared to deal with the potential headaches of a new MS OS. It'll take a while for the industry to get mature drivers out there. For gaming, I'd personally stick with WinXP for a while yet, but that's just me. I'll also miss out on all the hair-pulling that early adopters may get to experience. That's always a fun pastime. <g>

stabiz
02-18-07, 03:13 PM
I ordered the Intel E6600, new motherboard and 2GB DDR2 Ram 20 minutes ago. Come to me, SH4!

flintlock
02-18-07, 03:18 PM
Congrats, stabiz!

The above combined with your 7950 GT have you in excellent shape to join the war effort against the Japanese.

:up:

Mylander
02-18-07, 05:56 PM
:o Thats insanely pricy. Is the case made of gold?[/quote]

No - but it's made of about 3mm thick stainless steel. The way the outside is made is also a good indication of what's on the inside. The MacPro is built like a brick ****house inside and out. I look at my old plastic and aluminum rattletrap PC and just shake my head. I just hate that I still have to mess with windows at all.

And "mediocre gaming machine"? I'm sorry, did I miss something?

Andrew

badaboom
02-18-07, 10:38 PM
Well today I saw the RAM that my laptop takes is on sale at BestBuy,I bit the bullet and upgraded to 2 gigs......I hope it'll help me out in the Pacific!!:D

flintlock
02-18-07, 11:28 PM
RAM is a good thing. Especially 2GBs when it comes to WinXP, so congrats on the upgrade!

trenken
02-19-07, 09:47 AM
I just threw together this custom Dell XPS machine on dell.com. What do you guys think of these specs? Anything need improvement?

Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6400 (2MB L2 Cache,2.13GHz,1066 FSB) (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 1))

Genuine Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition with re-installation CD (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 11))

2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 3))

250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 8))

Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 16))

256MB nVidia GeForce 7900 GS (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 6))

Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 17))

Barkhorn1x
02-19-07, 09:51 AM
Two things:

a. You'll be fine w/ those specs
b. Why not post in one of the two other threads regarding this issue?

Barkhorn.

ReallyDedPoet
02-19-07, 09:52 AM
The vista thing still bothers me, yes I know the game will be made to run on it, but how well and with how many bugs, is yet to be determined:damn::damn:

What is the cost, and what about future upgrades, something difficult when you buy from Dell.

trenken
02-19-07, 09:53 AM
Woops sorry. :oops:

The other thread I saw I thought was specific to video cards so I didn't want to dilute it with all kinds of other specs.

trenken
02-19-07, 09:53 AM
No I forgot to mention I'm not getting the Vista upgrade. That can be made later down the line.

stabiz
02-19-07, 09:58 AM
You will have no probs, trenken.

The 7900GS is a sweet card, by the way. As said elsewhere I swapped it for the 7950GT 512MB without noticing much improvement.

trenken
02-19-07, 10:03 AM
The vista thing still bothers me, yes I know the game will be made to run on it, but how well and with how many bugs, is yet to be determined:damn::damn:

What is the cost, and what about future upgrades, something difficult when you buy from Dell.

It comes to about $1800. And I really love those XPS cases. So futuristic looking, that's not important of course though.

It's a desktop PC so it can be upgraded regardless of who made it. My current machine is custom built, but it's getting pretty old now. I've heard nothing but great things about the new Dell XPS machines so I figured I'd just go with that. It's possible all of this could be cheaper if I got it all on my own, but I almost just don't feel like dealing with that at this point. I'd rather pay extra and have Dell just handle it all for me. So I'm almost paying extra for convenience. How much extra I'm not exactly sure though since I havent yet individually priced everything out. If I do that and find their really overcharging, I'll just build it myself I guess.

flintlock
02-19-07, 01:21 PM
trenken,

The specs look OK, but I'd suggest you consider upgrading the E6400 to the E6600 processor. It's a 2.40GHz vs 2.13GHz, though more importantly, you gain an extra 2MB cache (4MB total) for just a few dollars more. Well worth it in my opinion. Regardless, looks like a nice system, so congrats!

Gizzmoe
02-19-07, 01:26 PM
I´ve stickied the thread. All future "specs" and hardware upgrade threads will be merged into this one.

trenken
02-19-07, 07:48 PM
trenken,

The specs look OK, but I'd suggest you consider upgrading the E6400 to the E6600 processor. It's a 2.40GHz vs 2.13GHz, though more importantly, you gain an extra 2MB cache (4MB total) for just a few dollars more. Well worth it in my opinion. Regardless, looks like a nice system, so congrats!

Cool man. Thanks!

Deep-Six
02-19-07, 08:56 PM
I think I have posted my specs on this forum.

3.0Ghz Intel Prescot, 1.5gigs RAM, NVDIA 7600 GS OC 512megs, 300gig hdd.

Can anyone tell me if I need any improvements, if any.

flintlock
02-19-07, 09:13 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need any improvements, if any.
There's always room for improvement. To be honest though, with specs you've listed, I'd wait to play SH4 on the system. This way you can set the eye candy to a level you're comfortable with, and guage how well it plays on your system. Based on that, you'll have a much better sense of what specifically needs upgrading, if anything.

Pit
02-20-07, 02:37 AM
Seriously though....
anybody any idea if this sim will run on a 64 bit system??:-?

stabiz
02-20-07, 10:19 AM
I`m guessing it will, its 2007, but I dont know.

capthelm
02-20-07, 10:25 AM
just upgraded my graphics to x1950xtx 512mb card


selling a x1800xt512mb card pci express if any 1 is intrested shortly

for around 140 us dollers not including shipping though.... pm me..if intrested


..my spec pentium d at 3.4 /3ghz sdram/ 160gb sata hd /x1950xtx 512mb ati video card

basilio
02-20-07, 12:04 PM
Ubi's official specs at this stage (from one of their sites):

Win2K, WinXP or Vista
2.0GHz processor
512MB RAM
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card with 128MB RAM
Vertex Shader 2.0 and Pixel Shader 2.0+ support
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card


Just noted from the Ubisoft website for the Deluxe Edition here

http://shop.ubi.com/Prod_ExtDesc.asp?catalogid=544&id=25

System requirements
OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows® XP/Vista only• PROCESSOR: Pentium®4 2Ghz or AMD Athlon™ (3Ghz Pentium or Athlon recommended) • RAM: 1GB (2GB recommended)• VIDEO CARD DirectX® 9.0 compliant, 128 Mb Video Card capable of rendering Pixel shader 2.0 (256 Mb recommended) - See supported List* • DIRECT X®: DirectX® 9.0 (included on disc) • DVD-ROM DRIVE: 4X or faster • SOUND CARD: DirectX 9.0 compatible • HARD DISK: 6 GB • PERIPHERALS: Mouse, keyboard • MULTIPLAY: Broadband connection with 128 kbps upstream or faster (512 Kbps upstream or faster needed to host online games)

I can almost guarantee you that the minimum RAM will jump to 1 GIG a week or so before release.
Seems that your prediction was true!

TDK1044
02-20-07, 12:46 PM
Yeah. Honestly, there is no way you could run SH4 on less than 1 GIG. Those who can afford to upgrade to 2 GIGs should do so in my opinion.

TDK1044
02-20-07, 01:59 PM
Hmm...i think i pass this game, i have P4 3.2Ghz and 1Giga ram+Geforce 6800GT 256. Still it sounds that this game will (no surprise it's a pc game)need some of the latest and finest hardware.

Your rig will run it, Jamoz, just not at the highest graphical settings.

flintlock
02-20-07, 02:13 PM
Yeah, that's why i pass it.
That's some will power you have there. Still, I can certainly appreciate your sentiments on wanting to enjoy a game like this in all its possible and intended spledor.

stabiz
02-20-07, 02:43 PM
Ubi's official specs at this stage (from one of their sites):

Win2K, WinXP or Vista
2.0GHz processor
512MB RAM
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card with 128MB RAM
Vertex Shader 2.0 and Pixel Shader 2.0+ support
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card

Just noted from the Ubisoft website for the Deluxe Edition here

http://shop.ubi.com/Prod_ExtDesc.asp?catalogid=544&id=25

System requirements
OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows® XP/Vista only• PROCESSOR: Pentium®4 2Ghz or AMD Athlon™ (3Ghz Pentium or Athlon recommended) • RAM: 1GB (2GB recommended)• VIDEO CARD DirectX® 9.0 compliant, 128 Mb Video Card capable of rendering Pixel shader 2.0 (256 Mb recommended) - See supported List* • DIRECT X®: DirectX® 9.0 (included on disc) • DVD-ROM DRIVE: 4X or faster • SOUND CARD: DirectX 9.0 compatible • HARD DISK: 6 GB • PERIPHERALS: Mouse, keyboard • MULTIPLAY: Broadband connection with 128 kbps upstream or faster (512 Kbps upstream or faster needed to host online games)

I can almost guarantee you that the minimum RAM will jump to 1 GIG a week or so before release. Seems that your prediction was true!

I am not surprised.

THE_MASK
02-20-07, 07:21 PM
What are prices like in other countries ? In australia an average PciE 8800 graphics card , 2 gigs of ram , an 6600 core 2 duo cpu and a good motherboard and a descent case with 550watt power is about $2000 ($1572usd)plus extra to assemble . Plus other stuff i havnt thought of .

capthelm
02-21-07, 08:56 AM
not bad

TDK1044
02-21-07, 09:01 AM
I think a core 2 duo cpu is a very smart move for SH4. Even a high end P4 processor will struggle a little ( in the most demanding battle scenarios) running with a good video card and 2 GIGs of RAM.

stabiz
02-21-07, 09:05 AM
I dont know what prices are in the rest of the world, but I just bought a 6600 core 2 duo for about 330 euro.

stabiz
02-21-07, 10:36 AM
Q: TheRealPotoroo: Will SH4 be multithreaded?
A: There are separate threads for minor tasks in the game, so there will be SOME improvement in running a multiprocessor machine.

Not that important, then. But I`ll take any improvement I can get.

fred8615
02-21-07, 07:08 PM
Somebody posted that they had a RADON X300 SE Series Graphics Card, and someone else said SH4 will not work at all with that card. Is that really true? Because I have the same card, and if it is true, I'm going to have to cancel my pre-order. I simply can't afford both the game and a new video card too. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

flintlock
02-21-07, 10:46 PM
fred8615,

You're definitely going to need a new video card if you want to run SH4.

There are some decent deals to be had. Post your system specs and we'll see if we can suggest an inexpensive but feasible solution for you.

Cheers,
flintlock

fred8615
02-21-07, 11:01 PM
fred8615,

You're definitely going to need a new video card if you want to run SH4.

There are some decent deals to be had. Post your system specs and we'll see if we can suggest an inexpensive but feasible solution for you.
Dell Dimension 8400
2 Gigs RAM
Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz processor, with hyper-threading.
SoundMAX Intergrated Digital Audio card
128 MB ATI RADON X300 SE Series PCI-Express Graphics Card

flintlock
02-21-07, 11:19 PM
Your system overall is pretty decent, so that's good news!

If you're looking to spend the least amount of money while you can still enjoy SH4, I'd recommend you consider these:

NVIDIA 7600 GS (least expensive, wouldn't consider anything below, but this is really stretching things)
NVIDIA 7600 GT or Radeon X1650 XT (for a few dollars more, slightly better performance but still not ideal)

If you can afford it, I'd suggest you consider a Radeon X1950 Pro or an NVIDIA 7900 GS. I believe either of these two cards should give you the best cost/performance ratio for running SH4 reasonably well.

Food for thought. :)

fred8615
02-21-07, 11:55 PM
Thanks anyway, but the prices, plus the game, are just out of my reach.
At least I have Pacific Aces.

Ark
02-22-07, 02:52 AM
Every year and a half or so I do a complete upgrade of my system. This upgrade happened to fall right before SHIV's release.

Here's the system I am building (mostly for SHIV):

Core 2 Duo E6600
Intel Bad Axe 2 mobo
2GB Corsair Ballistix PC8000
Evga 8800GTX
Silverstone 1KW PSU
Sound Blaster Fatal1ty X-FI XtremeGamer

CPU is watercooled with an Apogee GT waterblock. Rad is a Swiftech MCR-220QP. Res is an EK-200. Pump is a Laing DDC-2 (18W) with Petra Top. Tubing is going to be either 7/16ID x 11/16OD Tygon or 1/2ID x 3/4OD Tygon. I decided not to watercool the NB and Videocard for right now (I don't like to OC my videocards). The NB has a fairly large heatsink on it by default, so I'm going to see how that works out for now. If the NB ends up needing some extra cooling, I have a DangerDen Maze 4 waterblock on standby just in case. Fluid is distilled water + Pentosin G11 + a few drops of PT Nuke.

I figure, what good is a computer designed for a submarine simulation in the Pacific, if it doesn't have blue water running through it. So that is what I am doing. lol

:arrgh!:

CCIP
02-22-07, 04:03 AM
I have a fairly good setup (a dual-core processor, 2 gigs of RAM), but I think a slight achilles heel in my case will be my video card - a 128mb GeForce 6800OC. It's perhaps the best as far as you can get with 128mb cards, but still a 128mb. I know SHIV will run, but I'm curious how it'll do with the settings. My sense is that I probably won't be able to run it on full detail until upgrading - and an upgrade wouldn't make sense now; I plan to get a PCI-E system within a year and buying a new AGP card just wouldn't make sense now (to me being on a budget, anyway).

Ah well? :hmm:

The General
02-22-07, 08:38 AM
If you can currently run SH3 with 100% particles and high quality textures, you'll be able to run SH4, albeit in a lesser configuration. You'll need at least 512MB of DDR2 RAM on your video card to get the full benefit though. Survival of the fittest, that's life.

:|\\

Snakeeyes
02-22-07, 03:42 PM
How do you think I would do with a Pentium 2.6 and a new GeForce 7800GS?

flyingdane
02-22-07, 07:45 PM
Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card.
I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great...:up:

Ark
02-22-07, 11:54 PM
Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card.
I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great...:up:

How something runs with SH3 and GWX, I imagine, is quite a ways off from SHIV. SH3 with GWX looks great, don't get me wrong....but add in fog, god rays, particle effects, higher-poly subs/ships/aircraft, etc.. etc.. and you more than likely really can't compare the two with regards to performance (similar engine or not). I'm sure it will stiill run pretty well for you though, I just wouldn't count on maxing out the in-game settings.

BUT, I must admit...these SH Dev.s are darn good at making their games look good and run well. :)

flyingdane
02-23-07, 12:05 AM
Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card.
I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great...:up:

How something runs with SH3 and GWX, I imagine, is quite a ways off from SHIV. SH3 with GWX looks great, don't get me wrong....but add in fog, god rays, particle effects, higher-poly subs/ships/aircraft, etc.. etc.. and you more than likely really can't compare the two with regards to performance.

God Rays? :rotfl: ......Ooops :oops:

Ark
02-23-07, 12:25 AM
Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card.
I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great...:up:

How something runs with SH3 and GWX, I imagine, is quite a ways off from SHIV. SH3 with GWX looks great, don't get me wrong....but add in fog, god rays, particle effects, higher-poly subs/ships/aircraft, etc.. etc.. and you more than likely really can't compare the two with regards to performance.

God Rays? :rotfl: ......Ooops :oops:

??

That's what they are called. :D

GOZO
02-23-07, 03:51 AM
I have a fairly good setup (a dual-core processor, 2 gigs of RAM), but I think a slight achilles heel in my case will be my video card - a 128mb GeForce 6800OC. It's perhaps the best as far as you can get with 128mb cards, but still a 128mb. I know SHIV will run, but I'm curious how it'll do with the settings. My sense is that I probably won't be able to run it on full detail until upgrading - and an upgrade wouldn't make sense now; I plan to get a PCI-E system within a year and buying a new AGP card just wouldn't make sense now (to me being on a budget, anyway).

Ah well? :hmm:


Oops!! Sounds like I have to put more memory in:lol: :lol: :lol: (Just got 512 at the moment :o :oops: :shifty: but the Radeon 9600 still saves my day).

Or just getting a new motherboard...........................:-?

Cheers

FdU-Nord

tener
02-23-07, 05:37 AM
hi all,
this is my pc specs:
XP home service pack 2
AMD 64 3400+,running at 2.40 GHz
1GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1950 pro 256mb agp 8x.
will this run SH4 well??
i hope it will coss SH4 is the one and only game i wont.

AJ!
02-23-07, 08:49 AM
hi all,
this is my pc specs:
XP home service pack 2
AMD 64 3400+,running at 2.40 GHz
1GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1950 pro 256mb agp 8x.
will this run SH4 well??
i hope it will coss SH4 is the one and only game i wont.

Yep no probs... you should get away with playing the game maxed out without much slowdown :up:

tener
02-23-07, 09:32 AM
hi all,
this is my pc specs:
XP home service pack 2
AMD 64 3400+,running at 2.40 GHz
1GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1950 pro 256mb agp 8x.
will this run SH4 well??
i hope it will coss SH4 is the one and only game i wont.

Yep no probs... you should get away with playing the game maxed out without much slowdown :up:
nice one,just got to wait for the game now,cheers.

Barkhorn1x
02-23-07, 09:37 AM
hi all,
this is my pc specs:
XP home service pack 2
AMD 64 3400+,running at 2.40 GHz
1GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1950 pro 256mb agp 8x.
will this run SH4 well??
i hope it will coss SH4 is the one and only game i wont.

I have a similar rig - but w/ a 7600GT card - and I just put in another GIG of RAM. That should make a difference - lord knows it does for Medieval2 Total War.

Barkhorn.

stabiz
02-23-07, 09:57 AM
hi all,
this is my pc specs:
XP home service pack 2
AMD 64 3400+,running at 2.40 GHz
1GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1950 pro 256mb agp 8x.
will this run SH4 well??
i hope it will coss SH4 is the one and only game i wont.
Yep no probs... you should get away with playing the game maxed out without much slowdown :up: nice one,just got to wait for the game now,cheers.

I dont think you will play it maxed out. Not trying to spoil the party, just what i think.

BadtheChadass
02-23-07, 12:06 PM
Hey guys, I just found this place. Pretty cool community from the looks of it. Anywho, What do you guys think of this machine for SH4?

Pent d 3.2 gigahertz
2 gigs RAM
Nvidia 6800 GT
XP serv pack 2

Thanks

Boris
02-23-07, 12:39 PM
Looks do-able. You might get away with it, It'll certainly work with some features turned off I think. Wait and see what it plays like. Otherwise a small graphics card upgrade could be in order.

Welcome to the family by the way. The best submarine sim community on the web :up:

BadtheChadass
02-23-07, 12:52 PM
I was able to play SH3 at full blast at 1280x1024 (small mod) at 4x AA. I guess it won't be so with the new one.

Boris
02-23-07, 12:57 PM
Nope, it's gonna need more power to run at max. But you'll still be able to run it. But according to what TDK said in another thread your graphics card might do ok. His system is very similar, but he can run SH4 at maxed settings with a 7600. The 6800 isn't quite as good, but it's not too bad either.

AG124
02-23-07, 04:27 PM
Oops!! Sounds like I have to put more memory in:lol: :lol: :lol: (Just got 512 at the moment :o :oops: :shifty: but the Radeon 9600 still saves my day).

I've got an ATI Radeon 9600 in my main system too - it's my biggest concern for SHIV at the moment.:-? It runs SHIII well (although not spectacularly) but I just don't know about SHIV. I think my P4 3.0 Ghz processor and 1.5 GB of RAM will handle the game however (although the RAM is only DDR 400 Mhz).

TDK1044
02-23-07, 04:50 PM
The Ati 9600 is an old card and it's not a fast card. I think it will struggle with SH4.

Boris
02-23-07, 04:51 PM
I had a 9600 like two cards ago

hyperion2206
02-23-07, 05:47 PM
I know that you Beta-testers are probably not allowed to tell us, but perhaps I'm lucky:
Do you know how long it will take to load a mission with 1GB RAM? If it takes as long as it takes right now with SH3 or even longer I'll have to upgrade to 2GB.(Waiting almost 5 minutes to start a mission just sucks:nope:)

flintlock
02-23-07, 08:25 PM
Save yourself some time and get that extra 1GB now. A lot more than just SH4's loading times will benefit from it.

TDK1044
02-23-07, 08:27 PM
Load times are faster in SH4. How much faster obviously depends on your specs. If you can afford to upgrade to 2 GIGs of RAM, I'd certainly do that.

AG124
02-23-07, 10:07 PM
I think I'll hold onto my 9600 for now, as it is useful for transferring VHS to digital. But if I have problems with SHIV, I'll transfer it to an older system and upgrade. I see there are some appropriate recommendations earlier in this thread.:hmm:

But 1.5 GB of 400 Mhz DDR RAM should be enough for the game right?

aso544
02-24-07, 01:52 AM
Looking to upgrade my computer to play this game in all its glory (Maxed Out If Possible). What do I need to do as my "computer-fu" is very weak!!!!!!

Here is my current system...

Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.20 GHz
1GB RAM
RADON X300 SE Series Graphics Card , 128 MB (Internal DAC 400 MHz)

Thanks for any and all help!!! Come on 3/27/07!!!!

ASO544

Going in this week for an upgrade at Best Buy. Not much I can do about the processor I have, but I am going to add another 1GB of RAM and a video card. What is the best card I can get for around $300, and at that price, am I going to get one that will help my system run SH4 neaor at the top. I may be able to go a little extra if needed.

M60-E4

stabiz
02-24-07, 07:58 AM
Does your motherboard support AGP8X or Pci Express? (graphics standards)

Oh, and make sure you get the EXACT same ram you have (same speed and preferable producer) for the best results.

aso544
02-24-07, 12:05 PM
Does your motherboard support AGP8X or Pci Express? (graphics standards)

Oh, and make sure you get the EXACT same ram you have (same speed and preferable producer) for the best results.

I'm pretty sure its PCI-E (Express) interface. My RAM is whatever HP puts in their HP Pavilion a767c desktop. I wonder if i remove the cover if the manufacture of the RAM would be listed on it?

ASO544

flintlock
02-24-07, 12:50 PM
I wonder if i remove the cover if the manufacture of the RAM would be listed on it?
You'd likely need to pull the DIMM out to get a good look at it.

flintlock
02-24-07, 12:59 PM
What is the best card I can get for around $300 Not sure what currency, so I'll just assume USD. If you're looking to stay close or under that mark with taxes in, for PCIe I'd suggest a Radeon X1950 XT. If you need an AGP card, I'd recommend a Radeon X1950 Pro. NVIDIA's 7900 GS is also an option, though I'd go with the former. The two AGP options I've listed are a bit less than $300, so you'll save a little here to put towards the other upgrade(s).

Cheers.

tener
02-24-07, 05:04 PM
hi all,
this is my pc specs:
XP home service pack 2
AMD 64 3400+,running at 2.40 GHz
1GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1950 pro 256mb agp 8x.
will this run SH4 well??
i hope it will coss SH4 is the one and only game i wont.
just been lookin around the net about SH4,so i,ve upped my RAM to 2 GB.hope it runs smooth now.

flintlock
02-25-07, 03:44 AM
tener, the rest of your system looks quite respectable. You've pretty much got one of the fastest cards currently available for an AGP bus, and with the extra 1GB of RAM, you should be in decent shape to fight the good fight in the Pacific.


:ahoy:

Guido
02-25-07, 03:57 AM
Hi fellow mariners;


After a recent upgrade, I have a PCIe 7900GT with Zalman vf700.

I wondered if anyone here fancies one for a reasonble price - should run SH4 nicely ship mates :up:

PM me

Guido!

hyperion2206
02-27-07, 01:10 PM
I've got a question concerning my videocard: I've got an Nvidea 6700XL (it's basically a Nvidea 6600). Do you think I can play with this card at all? I've read that SH4 will support the 6600 but the graphics will be rather poor,right?

TDK1044
02-27-07, 02:13 PM
I've got a question concerning my videocard: I've got an Nvidea 6700XL (it's basically a Nvidea 6600). Do you think I can play with this card at all? I've read that SH4 will support the 6600 but the graphics will be rather poor,right?

I think your own assesment is correct.

hyperion2206
02-27-07, 03:06 PM
I've got a question concerning my videocard: I've got an Nvidea 6700XL (it's basically a Nvidea 6600). Do you think I can play with this card at all? I've read that SH4 will support the 6600 but the graphics will be rather poor,right?
I think your own assesment is correct.

Sometimes I hate it when I'm right.:p Because of your answer I'll buy a NVidia Geforce 7800 and 1GB extra RAM.;)

TDK1044
02-27-07, 03:16 PM
A wise move.:D

hyperion2206
02-27-07, 03:46 PM
A wise move.:D

An expensive move.:o:):o:huh::stare::shifty::nope::rotfl:

flintlock
02-27-07, 06:47 PM
Expense is all relative. In the end, as long as you're satisfied with how SH4 performs on your hardware--it'll be money well spent.

;)

stabiz
02-27-07, 09:14 PM
Couldnt agree more.:D

dougandtoni
02-28-07, 01:29 AM
Hi to all. I want to put together a new computer so i am ready to play Silent Hunter 4. This is what i am looking at
AMD (ADA4600CUBOX) ATHLON64 X2 4600 SKT AM2 (DUALCORE)
ADATA 1024mb DDR2 667 DIMM x2
GIGABYTE (GA-M55SLI-S4) Socket AM2 Motherboard *3 PCI-Ex1 slots *2 PCI-Ex16 SLI graphics slots *3 x IEEE1394A *4xSATAII *Marvell Gigabit
Leadtek" PX7950GT 256MB PCI-E Card Fan w/HDCP

I know a little about computers but do you think this is okay or give a rating Poor- Average-Excellent. I know its a bit of a broad question but any help would be appreciated

Cheers:up: :up: :up:

Ark
02-28-07, 02:03 AM
Hi to all. I want to put together a new computer so i am ready to play Silent Hunter 4. This is what i am looking at
AMD (ADA4600CUBOX) ATHLON64 X2 4600 SKT AM2 (DUALCORE)
ADATA 1024mb DDR2 667 DIMM x2
GIGABYTE (GA-M55SLI-S4) Socket AM2 Motherboard *3 PCI-Ex1 slots *2 PCI-Ex16 SLI graphics slots *3 x IEEE1394A *4xSATAII *Marvell Gigabit
Leadtek" PX7950GT 256MB PCI-E Card Fan w/HDCP

I know a little about computers but do you think this is okay or give a rating Poor- Average-Excellent. I know its a bit of a broad question but any help would be appreciated

Cheers:up: :up: :up:




I would recommend against AMD with what Intel has going right now. The C2D series pretty much hoses AMD's offering, and the C2Ds have a pretty attractive price-point. Don't get me wrong, I don't think AMD's processors are "bad" at all, I just think you would be much happier with a Core 2 Duo from a performance standpoint.

flintlock
02-28-07, 02:11 AM
I know its a bit of a broad question but any help would be appreciated The system looks okay, Doug.

If I were building it, I'd swap that motherboard for a Socket 775 solution and pick up an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (E6600 if you can swing it, E6400 if not). The C2D is simply a better processor (and I like AMD). The video card is fine, though for a few dollars more I would opt for a Radeon X1950 XT (it's a much faster graphics solution than a 7950 GT). The X1950 XT is too good to pass up at the current price point.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Cheers,
flintlock

Ark
02-28-07, 02:22 AM
I know its a bit of a broad question but any help would be appreciated The system looks okay, Doug.

If I were building it, I'd swap that motherboard for a Socket 775 solution and pick up an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (E6600 if you can swing it, E6400 if not). The C2D is simply a better processor (and I like AMD). The video card is fine, though for a few dollars more I would opt for a Radeon X1950 XT (it's a much faster graphics solution than a 7950 GT). The X1950 XT is too good to pass up at the current price point.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Cheers,
flintlock


^^What Flint said.

Also, keep an eye on the 8800 GTS. With the release of the lower level 8800 cards, expect the higher end 8800 series to be dropping in prices soon.

Personally, with regards to the R600 (ATI's next offering), I would stay away from it. If the pic of it I saw was real, it is HUGE. It looks like it may be a few inches longer than an 8800 GTX....and that thing is NOT small. lol I have one in my TT Armor case and it still looks huge, it's at least as long, if not an inch and half longer than my Bad Axe 2 mobo. It almost stretches all the way to my case mounted reservoir next to my mobo. I'll see if I can take a pic.

dougandtoni
02-28-07, 02:30 AM
I know its a bit of a broad question but any help would be appreciated The system looks okay, Doug.

If I were building it, I'd swap that motherboard for a Socket 775 solution and pick up an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (E6600 if you can swing it, E6400 if not). The C2D is simply a better processor (and I like AMD). The video card is fine, though for a few dollars more I would opt for a Radeon X1950 XT (it's a much faster graphics solution than a 7950 GT). The X1950 XT is too good to pass up at the current price point.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Cheers,
flintlock

Cheers. Did a bit of research on what you suggested and am very pleased with the results:up: . One more favour:roll: can you suggest a motherboard cause there is so many:damn:

Ark
02-28-07, 02:33 AM
I know its a bit of a broad question but any help would be appreciated The system looks okay, Doug.

If I were building it, I'd swap that motherboard for a Socket 775 solution and pick up an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (E6600 if you can swing it, E6400 if not). The C2D is simply a better processor (and I like AMD). The video card is fine, though for a few dollars more I would opt for a Radeon X1950 XT (it's a much faster graphics solution than a 7950 GT). The X1950 XT is too good to pass up at the current price point.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Cheers,
flintlock

Cheers. Did a bit of research on what you suggested and am very pleased with the results:up: . One more favour:roll: can you suggest a motherboard cause there is so many:damn:


Question wasn't asked to me, but I'm bored. lol

If you don't care about SLI, then I would highly suggest you look at the Intel Bad Axe 2 mobo. It is highly regarded as being quite stable, and there is soem decent room for oc'ing as well if you decide to go that route. I am not a fan of Asus like I used to be since they (Asus) have a history of Vdroop issues (I oc, so Vdroop can be an issue). I would also stay away from the 650i and 680i series of mobos. They are good products, but they are still suffering from issues with cold booting, Sata corruption, memory issues, overall general instability in quite a few instances, etc..(which is expected considering they are relatively new products).....and don't even get me started on how Evga applies thermal grease to the NB and SB on their mobos. lol

Ark
02-28-07, 02:52 AM
Ok, here's a pic of my latest build. It's dedicated to Silent Hunter IV/Submarine warfare in the pacific. Ignore the fingerprints on the CPU waterblock chromed portion (I've had to touch it a whole bunch recently during testing). As I stated earlier, the case is a Thermaltake Armor, and my 8800GTX goes almost to the lower black portion of the reservoir mounted on the right side by the mobo (it's a pretty huge videocard...the R600 has to be absolutely massive if it's bigger than this thing). Also, sorry about the brightness of the pic (the water is actually a deeper blue), I'm still trying to figure out the ins/outs of my digital camera. Pic quality is also greatly reduced by resizing. Hope you like it so far! :)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4723/mypciv5.jpg

Still lots of work to do, but leak-testing is complete. Now it's on to sleeving my radiator fan cables, setting up my plan for wire management, and getting my components installed. :arrgh!:

(Specs in sig are WAY off, lol)

stabiz
02-28-07, 08:32 AM
:rotfl:How fast does she dive?

:up:

Ark
02-28-07, 11:12 AM
:rotfl:How fast does she dive?

:up:


About 2 years....so faster than a Gato. :rotfl:

AVGWarhawk
02-28-07, 12:18 PM
@ARK

That blue tube with water looks like something I smoked illegal stuff in way back in the day....

Ark
02-28-07, 12:26 PM
@ARK

That blue tube with water looks like something I smoked illegal stuff in way back in the day....

Haha

There are actually "Bong style" reservoirs. They look almost exactly like what you are referring to. What I have isn't that style though. Mine is just an stard reservoir with a different design (by EK).

AVG, you play IL-2 right?

shoot-kill-win
02-28-07, 10:35 PM
Here are my specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 2.40 ghz
ATI Radeon x1300 pro 256mb
1 gb ram
and I am running SHIII fine with GWX
If I delete GWX will SH4 work better?

Ark
02-28-07, 11:06 PM
Here are my specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 2.40 ghz
ATI Radeon x1300 pro 256mb
1 gb ram
and I am running SHIII fine with GWX
If I delete GWX will SH4 work better?

Probably not.

SHIV has a bunch of new graphics effects, higher poly models, higher poly water, etc..

It will probably fall under the "system hog" category...but I'm just guessing. lol

shoot-kill-win
02-28-07, 11:08 PM
What would you reccomend upgrading?

Ark
02-28-07, 11:10 PM
What would you reccomend upgrading?

I'd probably start with the videocard and adding another gig of ram.

Many of the games nowdays seems to tax the videocard more than the processor (ideally), so that is probably the route I would take. Keep in mind, much of what has changed involves objects/effects and how they are rendered.

shoot-kill-win
02-28-07, 11:14 PM
What videocard do you reccomend? in the ATI series?
and im not to good with computers so how do you upgrade ram?
sorry im not that computer savvy

Ark
02-28-07, 11:47 PM
What videocard do you reccomend? in the ATI series?
and im not to good with computers so how do you upgrade ram?
sorry im not that computer savvy

ATI I'd probably get a X1950XTX (or XT).

Ram you just add another stick to one of the ram slots on your motherboard (make sure the sticks match though...you don't want to mix-match ram and have it underclock to the slower ram), and make sure you put it in the right way (match up the notch in the ram stick).

The best way to do it, is to just buy a simple book on building PCs and reead through it. It's pretty easy once you get the basics down.

flintlock
02-28-07, 11:53 PM
ATI I'd probably get a X1950XTX (or XT). An X1950 XT I can definitely see for the asking price. The XTX though? For a little more you can slide in a shiney new 8800 GTS. AMD need to lower the price on their X1950 XTX to make it a viable option for people again. Don't get me wrong; It's a great piece of hardware, it's just a hard sell with the 8800 GTS being a few bucks more. May as well get that DX10 goodness if you're in a XTX price range.

Ark
03-01-07, 12:19 AM
ATI I'd probably get a X1950XTX (or XT). An X1950 XT I can definitely see for the asking price. The XTX though? For a little more you can slide in a shiney new 8800 GTS. AMD need to lower the price on their X1950 XTX to make it a viable option for people again. Don't get me wrong; It's a great piece of hardware, it's just a hard sell with the 8800 GTS being a few bucks more. May as well get that DX10 goodness if you're in a XTX price range.

Yeah, I couldn't remember the designation.

azn_132
03-01-07, 04:10 AM
What do I need to play SH4?

My specs:

AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ 2.4GHz
894MB RAM(tryin to get more RAM)
Nvidia GeForce 6150 LE(weak a$$ card)
19'inch wide screen LCD monitor

stabiz
03-01-07, 07:14 AM
Your processor is all good, but you probably need(not "need", but want:D) more ram, and definately a new gpu.

With a 7600gs or similar from ATI, and up, you should be ok. But dont expect great performance AT HIGH SETTINGS with the 7600gs, the french video had some stuttering, and was made with a 7900GT, which tells me the game is alot more demanding than SH3, even with supermods.


I have made alot of videos from SH3 with fraps on a similar machine used in the french video. They used a AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 1GB ram and a 7900GT, I had a AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 2GB ram and a 7900GS. With no AA I could make videos in Grey Wolves and GWX without stuttering in convoys (and kinda in ports), but the video shows some stuttering with the same setup. This means that setup probably is performing well when NOT recording with fraps.

hyperion2206
03-01-07, 11:58 AM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?

Buggins
03-01-07, 12:20 PM
Man I hope so, as I've hit that 'any upgrade would push me onto a new motherboard/total overhaul' stage and frankly I don't really want to spend that kind of money right now.

I'm also a little worried about performance under Vista, but I guess that's mostly a drivers ssue and won't be critical. Hopefully the issue we had with SH3 and the nVidia card's handling of spray won't pop up again.

Ark
03-01-07, 01:12 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?

Maybe.

Not sure what kind of FPS you'll get though. It wil probably depend on what resolution you are running at and what other settings (FSAA if is can be used, and AF).

hyperion2206
03-01-07, 01:25 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?
Maybe.

Not sure what kind of FPS you'll get though. It wil probably depend on what resolution you are running at and what other settings (FSAA if is can be used, and AF).

The resolution will be 1024x768 and since I don't know what FSAA or AF is and what it does I won't touch these settings.;)

Ark
03-01-07, 01:28 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?
Maybe.

Not sure what kind of FPS you'll get though. It wil probably depend on what resolution you are running at and what other settings (FSAA if is can be used, and AF).

The resolution will be 1024x768 and since I don't know what FSAA or AF is and what it does I won't touch these settings.;)

FSAA gets rid of jaggies.

AF provides clarity and essentially "unblurs" textures.

hyperion2206
03-01-07, 01:32 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?
Maybe.

Not sure what kind of FPS you'll get though. It wil probably depend on what resolution you are running at and what other settings (FSAA if is can be used, and AF).
The resolution will be 1024x768 and since I don't know what FSAA or AF is and what it does I won't touch these settings.;)
FSAA gets rid of jaggies.

AF provides clarity and essentially "unblurs" textures.

I guess I will try it without FSAA and AF (if possible). If everything runs smoothly I'll activate them and see what happens.:arrgh!:

Hackett
03-01-07, 03:00 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?

I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

While that is not the "Best" setup one can buy. It is probably on the high end of the developers testing bench.

It is not like SHIV has been optimized to run multithreaded, or even DX10 (Unless i missed some news, or is being kept quiet.)

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

If i am wrong, and a "Better" system is "Required" to run well on maxed settings, then in my opinion, there is something wrong with the software code.
A little common sense goes along way. People who need to upgrade, know who you are...:ping:

stabiz
03-01-07, 03:11 PM
I somewhat agree, but a 7900GS is not a top end card, its considered upper medium nowadays. It wont run a new game like Medieval 2 on full blast, for instance.

The difference between a 7900GS and a 7900GTX is huge.

On the other hand, I`m betting a 7900GS will run SHIV like a charm on high/very high settings, as long as you stay away from FSAA.

Ark
03-01-07, 03:29 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?

I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

The 7900XX may only be one series behind the top-end videocards out, but it isn't even close to the top end. Just because something is in 2nd place, doesn't mean a close finish. Also, the 7900GS is not as high-end as you think it is. It isn't exactly a 7900GTX...even then, the 8800GTX is still quite a ways beyond that.

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

You validate your position with a broad-based generalization? I'm rich and have nothing better to spend my money on because I like to upgrade my computer often? Ok. lol

Please explain how Ubisoft is pandering to anybody by giving EVERYBODY the ability to check and uncheck graphics options.

So, essentially, you desire that graphics development not continuously improve because it may adversely affect your wallet? Game developers should continuously improve on graphics, it's called progress. If there was no demand for it, we'd all still be playing AoD. Game development teams don't improve on graphics and "glitz" in order to amuse themselves. If they don't continuously improve, they fall behind...and if they fall behind, their customer base decreases...and we all know what happenes after that.

A little common sense DOES go a long way. :lol: ;)

Sorry, not trying to be rude, but your post cracks me up. :)

hyperion2206
03-01-07, 03:49 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?
I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

While that is not the "Best" setup one can buy. It is probably on the high end of the developers testing bench.

It is not like SHIV has been optimized to run multithreaded, or even DX10 (Unless i missed some news, or is being kept quiet.)

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

If i am wrong, and a "Better" system is "Required" to run well on maxed settings, then in my opinion, there is something wrong with the software code.
A little common sense goes along way. People who need to upgrade, know who you are...:ping:


I think you're right! The 7900GS might not be the best card arround but I think that something must be wrong if you have to spend more than 300 € every 6 month or so just to run a game on maxed settings.
But I think you can't stop this trend: Sacrificing gameplay to get more and better graphics.:nope:

Ark
03-01-07, 03:55 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?
I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

While that is not the "Best" setup one can buy. It is probably on the high end of the developers testing bench.

It is not like SHIV has been optimized to run multithreaded, or even DX10 (Unless i missed some news, or is being kept quiet.)

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

If i am wrong, and a "Better" system is "Required" to run well on maxed settings, then in my opinion, there is something wrong with the software code.
A little common sense goes along way. People who need to upgrade, know who you are...:ping:


I think you're right! The 7900GS might not be the best card arround but I think that something must be wrong if you have to spend more than 300 € every 6 month or so just to run a game on maxed settings.
But I think you can't stop this trend: Sacrificing gameplay to get more and better graphics.:nope:


Just because graphics improve, doesn't mean gameplay suffers. It may suffer for those people who desire to only run games at "max settings", but that is hardly the developers fault. They can't exactly halt progress just because some people can't afford better. Should Mercedes stop making cars because a lot of people can't afford them? No. lol

Should the developers only make games that run great on lower-end machines? What about those who can afford better?

There's a reason there is a "Graphics Settings/Options" tab in-game. lol

Wouldn't you prefer games that have will look better as your hardware improves vs games that will look the same despite your upgrades?

hyperion2206
03-01-07, 04:05 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?
I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

While that is not the "Best" setup one can buy. It is probably on the high end of the developers testing bench.

It is not like SHIV has been optimized to run multithreaded, or even DX10 (Unless i missed some news, or is being kept quiet.)

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

If i am wrong, and a "Better" system is "Required" to run well on maxed settings, then in my opinion, there is something wrong with the software code.
A little common sense goes along way. People who need to upgrade, know who you are...:ping:

I think you're right! The 7900GS might not be the best card arround but I think that something must be wrong if you have to spend more than 300 € every 6 month or so just to run a game on maxed settings.
But I think you can't stop this trend: Sacrificing gameplay to get more and better graphics.:nope:

Just because graphics improve, doesn't mean gameplay suffers. It may suffer for those people who desire to only run games at "max settings", but that is hardly the developers fault. They can't exactly halt progress just because some people can't afford better. Should Mercedes stop making cars because a lot of people can't afford them? No. lol

Should the developers only make games that run great on lower-end machines? What about those who can afford better?

There's a reason there is a "Graphics Settings/Options" tab in-game. lol

Wouldn't you prefer games that have will look better as your hardware improves vs games that will look the same despite your upgrades?

Perhaps I'm wrong but I do think that if devs concentrate on getting better and better graphics gameplay will suffer.
Today a dev diary was published on the German SH4 site were on dev said that Ubisoft management forced the devs to concentrate on the look of some Japanese villages because they wanted it to look like Fac Cry. Quod erad demonstrandum.

Ark
03-01-07, 04:13 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?
I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

While that is not the "Best" setup one can buy. It is probably on the high end of the developers testing bench.

It is not like SHIV has been optimized to run multithreaded, or even DX10 (Unless i missed some news, or is being kept quiet.)

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

If i am wrong, and a "Better" system is "Required" to run well on maxed settings, then in my opinion, there is something wrong with the software code.
A little common sense goes along way. People who need to upgrade, know who you are...:ping:

I think you're right! The 7900GS might not be the best card arround but I think that something must be wrong if you have to spend more than 300 € every 6 month or so just to run a game on maxed settings.
But I think you can't stop this trend: Sacrificing gameplay to get more and better graphics.:nope:

Just because graphics improve, doesn't mean gameplay suffers. It may suffer for those people who desire to only run games at "max settings", but that is hardly the developers fault. They can't exactly halt progress just because some people can't afford better. Should Mercedes stop making cars because a lot of people can't afford them? No. lol

Should the developers only make games that run great on lower-end machines? What about those who can afford better?

There's a reason there is a "Graphics Settings/Options" tab in-game. lol

Wouldn't you prefer games that have will look better as your hardware improves vs games that will look the same despite your upgrades?

Perhaps I'm wrong but I do think that if devs concentrate on getting better and better graphics gameplay will suffer.
Today a dev diary was published on the German SH4 site were on dev said that Ubisoft management forced the devs to concentrate on the look of some Japanese villages because they wanted it to look like Fac Cry. Quod erad demonstrandum.


How does improving look adversely affect gameplay?

IMO, it increases immersion which improves gameplay.

Likes/Dislikes are relative in the grand scheme of things since most people won't agree on what they find important with regards to "gameplay".

Keep in mind, that SHIV is not a brand new game...it's built on lessons learned from SH3 and includes graphical improvements.

hyperion2206
03-01-07, 04:40 PM
I don't criticise SH4 because I do believe that it will rather smoothly on my PC and that gameplay and graphics will be balanced. But I do criticise that IMHO modern games concentrate on graphics and neglect gameplay. Many games have nice graphics but lack a good story or good quests (Runaway 2) or have great graphics and the AI is crap (Armed Assault). To me gameplay is far more important than graphics and I wish devs would think the same.

stabiz
03-01-07, 05:13 PM
The AI is not crap in Armed Assault, but its not great. Looking foreward to the patch coming soon.

Hackett
03-01-07, 05:31 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?

I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

The 7900XX may only be one series behind the top-end videocards out, but it isn't even close to the top end. Just because something is in 2nd place, doesn't mean a close finish. Also, the 7900GS is not as high-end as you think it is. It isn't exactly a 7900GTX...even then, the 8800GTX is still quite a ways beyond that.

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

You validate your position with a broad-based generalization? I'm rich and have nothing better to spend my money on because I like to upgrade my computer often? Ok. lol

Please explain how Ubisoft is pandering to anybody by giving EVERYBODY the ability to check and uncheck graphics options.

So, essentially, you desire that graphics development not continuously improve because it may adversely affect your wallet? Game developers should continuously improve on graphics, it's called progress. If there was no demand for it, we'd all still be playing AoD. Game development teams don't improve on graphics and "glitz" in order to amuse themselves. If they don't continuously improve, they fall behind...and if they fall behind, their customer base decreases...and we all know what happenes after that.

A little common sense DOES go a long way. :lol: ;)

Sorry, not trying to be rude, but your post cracks me up. :)

I never said development companies shouldn't improve upon the technology, that's just insane, and my comments were solely directed at SHIV, and despite it's enhanced graphics engine, it is still 2 years or so old. It still should not need a Quad core 4GB RAM, duel nVidia 8800xx SLI, 10000rpm 1TB sata, ect, ect, to run at full settings.
If for instance i was talking about Crysis as an example. then to run that at the stated setup, will take 1.5 years of technology growth, if you believe the hype.

Ark
03-01-07, 08:40 PM
Now I've got 2GB RAM, a new GeForce 7900 GS and an Intel Pentium CPU with 3 GHz. Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings maxed out?

I am sorry, but all this speculation, and hype on systems like this is only serving to fuel the paranoia, and put unnecessary cash into the hands of retailers of computers and computer parts dealers. (An nVidia 7900xx is only one series notch away from the top of what can be bought, and that's not going to run on max settings!?)

The 7900XX may only be one series behind the top-end videocards out, but it isn't even close to the top end. Just because something is in 2nd place, doesn't mean a close finish. Also, the 7900GS is not as high-end as you think it is. It isn't exactly a 7900GTX...even then, the 8800GTX is still quite a ways beyond that.

The system quoted there by hyperion is about typical of the majority of computers owners the world over. Anything better, is in the hands of rich people with nothing better to spend their money on. (Again sorry! But if like me you fall into the lower middle class/wage bracket then upgrading every six months to have the best out their is not a priority or even attainable in most cases.) Ubisoft is also not going to only panda to the top 10% of society who can run any software with a bazillion FPS.

You validate your position with a broad-based generalization? I'm rich and have nothing better to spend my money on because I like to upgrade my computer often? Ok. lol

Please explain how Ubisoft is pandering to anybody by giving EVERYBODY the ability to check and uncheck graphics options.

So, essentially, you desire that graphics development not continuously improve because it may adversely affect your wallet? Game developers should continuously improve on graphics, it's called progress. If there was no demand for it, we'd all still be playing AoD. Game development teams don't improve on graphics and "glitz" in order to amuse themselves. If they don't continuously improve, they fall behind...and if they fall behind, their customer base decreases...and we all know what happenes after that.

A little common sense DOES go a long way. :lol: ;)

Sorry, not trying to be rude, but your post cracks me up. :)

I never said development companies shouldn't improve upon the technology, that's just insane, and my comments were solely directed at SHIV, and despite it's enhanced graphics engine, it is still 2 years or so old. It still should not need a Quad core 4GB RAM, duel nVidia 8800xx SLI, 10000rpm 1TB sata, ect, ect, to run at full settings.
If for instance i was talking about Crysis as an example. then to run that at the stated setup, will take 1.5 years of technology growth, if you believe the hype.

The sad part is that Crysis will prob. take something like that to run at max settings. LOL

flintlock
03-02-07, 01:20 PM
Ol' faithful here is eagerly awaiting SH4s arrivial (all 6MHz of it). Hopefully the Deluxe Edition includes SH4 on 5.25" diskettes.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/idachs/subsim/ibm.jpg

Can't wait.

Ark
03-02-07, 02:31 PM
Ol' faithful here is eagerly awaiting SH4s arrivial (all 6MHz of it). Hopefully the Deluxe Edition includes SH4 on 5.25" diskettes.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/idachs/subsim/ibm.jpg

Can't wait.


The good ol' days.

"How much for 4mb of RAM?"

"$400."

"GREAT! It's on sale!"

aso544
03-02-07, 02:46 PM
Maybe instead of upgrading my desk top I will buy a "kicka$$" laptop so I can enjoy SH4 on the go. Any recommendations on a top-end (under 2k but would prefer $1500) laptop that will let SH4 run in all of its glory?

ASO544

flintlock
03-02-07, 03:22 PM
You may need to adjust your budget a little. Nevertheless, here are a few considerations:

m5790 (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Area-51_m5790/area-51m_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AREA51M5790&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT)

Dell XPS 1710 (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1710?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs)

Rock Xtreme CTX Pro (http://www.rockdirect.com/webmailer/JanOffers07/?UID=AFF-BIZWARE)

Sailor Steve
03-03-07, 11:14 AM
The good ol' days.

"How much for 4mb of RAM?"

"$400."

"GREAT! It's on sale!"
Reminds me of my first hard drive...20 whopping MegaBites!

Later was warned not to upgrade to 50; "They crash all the time".

Santino
03-04-07, 12:08 PM
hi,

I have for the moment a Nvidea Geforce 6800 xl video card in my computer.
Does anybody knows if this card is enough to run Silent Hunter IV?:roll:

flintlock
03-04-07, 02:20 PM
I have for the moment a Nvidea Geforce 6800 xl video card xl?

Isn't it a GS or GT? Either way, it will run SH4. How well depends on what settings you're planning on running and what you personally find acceptable.

Santino
03-04-07, 04:09 PM
Its a GS. Im thinking to buy me a Geforce 7800 with 256mb. thx for the help:up:

Biggles
03-04-07, 04:38 PM
I have for the moment a Nvidea Geforce 6800 xl video card xl?

Isn't it a GS or GT? Either way, it will run SH4. How well depends on what settings you're planning on running and what you personally find acceptable.

this means that you can play on higher resolutions than 1024X768? It buggs me to hell in SH3, now when I have
2GB RAM
Nvidia GF 7950GT OC (512MB)
etc...etc.......I really want to see SH4 in a VERY good view, and I think I just might be able to do that!:smug:

CCIP
03-04-07, 04:51 PM
I personally don't think a 6800 to 7800 upgrade would be entirely wise - unless you have money you're itching to get rid of :p

I have a 6800OC (an overclocked vanilla 6800), and I've thought of upgrading for a while, and decided against it - even if for the fact that a new AGP card in this day and age is not a wise investment.

flintlock
03-04-07, 05:02 PM
a new AGP card in this day and age is not a wise investment. Under certain circumstances it can be. For those who wish to extend the life of their current single-core gaming rig for another year or so, a X1950 Pro may be just the ticket.

Sulikate
03-04-07, 08:22 PM
Here's my rig:

Athlon 64 3000+
1.5GB RAM
GeForce 7600GS 256MB
80GB HD

How do you guys my rig is performing on SHIV?
thanks:arrgh!:

stabiz
03-04-07, 08:45 PM
We can only guess, but I`m guessing medium settings.

raduz
03-05-07, 06:08 AM
Conroe 6600@3.1MHz
2048 MB RAM
2*250 WD RAID
8800GFX 768 RAM
22 LCD

I cant wait SH5 :)

flintlock
03-05-07, 07:47 AM
2048 GB RAM

That's got to be a world record! ;)

raduz
03-05-07, 07:58 AM
2048 GB RAM
That's got to be a world record! ;)

heh sorry I meant MB off course:)

Detritus
03-05-07, 10:00 AM
Err, we seem to have conflicting data here. First they say the supported OS's are 2k, XP and Vista and now it's just (at least Deluxe version) XP and Vista. Anyone know for sure what's the story? Never bothered to switch 2k for XP and will most certainly not get Vista any time soon.

flintlock
03-05-07, 01:45 PM
they say the supported OS's are 2k, XP and Vista and now it's just (at least Deluxe version) XP and Vista.
This link (http://ubi.com/UK/Games/Info.aspx?pId=5234) shows Win2K as a supported OS for the standard edition.

Detritus
03-05-07, 05:34 PM
Yes, I know but the question still is whether 2k is actually supported ( I believe so) and is it for both standard and deluxe versions. Kinda odd that apparently XP and Vista are chosen for the deluxe versions, not 2k. Doesn't make much sense, since the hardware/software for both 2k and XP are virtually identical. I'd just like to know before placing an order for the big and shiny version.

Kingswat
03-06-07, 01:15 PM
hmm, i wonder if my 7600GS will be able to run this, it should be able to since i can run oblivion.

stabiz
03-06-07, 02:59 PM
It will.

Fish40
03-06-07, 03:54 PM
Befor anyone jumps down my throat, and yells that I read the "Sticky", I just want an honest opinion from some of the experienced techies out there. I did read the sticky post by the way, and I exceed the minimum requirements in all areas, except one. I only have 1gig of ram, which is the max for my ageing rig.

Currently, I am able to play SH3GWX in a higher resolution, with no problems at all. I do intend to get a new machine when the new DX10 ATI card becomes available, but until then I must settle. Anyway, this is what I got:



Intel P4@3.06ghtz
1gig 1066RDRAM
ATI Radeon X1650pro AGP
Audigy2ZS Gamer

MarshalLaw
03-06-07, 04:09 PM
Hey Fish,

With 1 gig, you may have to tone down a few settings in the game to get it to run smooth, Overall I think you're good to go. Once you get the game you'll know if you need to upgade that MB or not.

TDK1044
03-06-07, 04:22 PM
I think you'll be fine, but the game may stutter a little on some of the big battles.

Fish40
03-06-07, 05:32 PM
I appreciate the responses guys, thanks alot. :up:

selfhighfi
03-06-07, 11:34 PM
Well i just bought a new computer from ebay with my part of my tax return how do these specs look.

Athlon 64 X2 4400
1 Gig of DDR2 800mhz
100 Gigabyte Western Digital Raptor Hd @10,000 rpm
18xDVD rom
18xDVD/CD RW
evga 7600 GT 256mb

THE_MASK
03-06-07, 11:38 PM
Buy another gig of ram .

The Renegade
03-07-07, 01:08 AM
Alright so I've got a question mainly concerning RAM. Right now I've got a P4 3.0 GHz, a Radeon X800 XL, and a gig of PC-4200 RAM. I know this probably won't get me max settings in SH4, but right now I'm just stuck on this DX10 thing and if I should go for that 8800 XXX card or just get a good DX9 card, and I'm also on the fence for a processor upgrade to a C2D E6600 or something because it will set me back more than another gig of RAM. I really, really, really want to upgrade in so many areas, but my budget is a tad limited.

Anyway, I just want to know how much of a difference another gig of RAM will make. Right now, I've got 2 sticks of 512 MB PC4200 RAM, which also brings me to 2 more questions. How big of a factor is the speed of the RAM, and is having 2 1 GB sticks better than having 4 512 MB sticks? I'm just kinda frustrated, because a year ago, 1GB of RAM was generous and I found a good deal on 2 512 MB sticks, but now I've heard it's probably better to just get 2 1 GB sticks if I want to upgrade, which is pricey. Also, I think the PC4200 is the max (or close to it) speed of RAM I can use on my motherboard, so if speed matters, then I should probably wait to get a new motherboard.

So I guess what I'm trying to ask is...well, kinda complicated. :doh:
1. Should I get another GB of RAM, and if so, 2 1GB sticks, or another 2 512 MB sticks?
2. Does the speed of the RAM matter? Should I consider a new motherboard? (My current one is some Dell POS I know nothing about. I've got a Dimension 4700, so it probably isn't top-notch.)

Any advice about anything, including my inexcusable lack of time spent with SH3 and how to remedy it, would be appreciated. Sorry for any run-on sentences and atrocious grammar. I'm tired :dead: . To the bunks I go....

Ark
03-07-07, 01:47 AM
Alright so I've got a question mainly concerning RAM. Right now I've got a P4 3.0 GHz, a Radeon X800 XL, and a gig of PC-4200 RAM. I know this probably won't get me max settings in SH4, but right now I'm just stuck on this DX10 thing and if I should go for that 8800 XXX card or just get a good DX9 card, and I'm also on the fence for a processor upgrade to a C2D E6600 or something because it will set me back more than another gig of RAM. I really, really, really want to upgrade in so many areas, but my budget is a tad limited.

Anyway, I just want to know how much of a difference another gig of RAM will make. Right now, I've got 2 sticks of 512 MB PC4200 RAM, which also brings me to 2 more questions. How big of a factor is the speed of the RAM, and is having 2 1 GB sticks better than having 4 512 MB sticks? I'm just kinda frustrated, because a year ago, 1GB of RAM was generous and I found a good deal on 2 512 MB sticks, but now I've heard it's probably better to just get 2 1 GB sticks if I want to upgrade, which is pricey. Also, I think the PC4200 is the max (or close to it) speed of RAM I can use on my motherboard, so if speed matters, then I should probably wait to get a new motherboard.

So I guess what I'm trying to ask is...well, kinda complicated. :doh:
1. Should I get another GB of RAM, and if so, 2 1GB sticks, or another 2 512 MB sticks?
2. Does the speed of the RAM matter? Should I consider a new motherboard? (My current one is some Dell POS I know nothing about. I've got a Dimension 4700, so it probably isn't top-notch.)

Any advice about anything, including my inexcusable lack of time spent with SH3 and how to remedy it, would be appreciated. Sorry for any run-on sentences and atrocious grammar. I'm tired :dead: . To the bunks I go....


I just bought an E6600 and Evga 8800GTX (see specs in sig below), and too say I am impressed with the processor and card would be an understatement. They simply take everything I can throw at them.

As far as ram goes, it really depends on what you plan on doing (oc'ing or not). Either way, I would get 2 x 1GB sticks rather than 4 x 512mb sticks.

StandingCow
03-07-07, 01:55 AM
Even the cheapest 8800 card chews up and spits out games, I would say go for that, I would have if I didn't just buy a 7950 :(

Ark
03-07-07, 01:56 AM
Even the cheapest 8800 card chews up and spits out games, I would say go for that, I would have if I didn't just buy a 7950 :(

Nothing wrong with a 7950, SC.

It's certainly not a card to scoff at. I'm pretty sure you will be fine with SHIV. :)

The Renegade
03-07-07, 02:14 AM
I just bought an E6600 and Evga 8800GTX (see specs in sig below), and too say I am impressed with the processor and card would be an understatement. They simply take everything I can throw at them.

As far as ram goes, it really depends on what you plan on doing (oc'ing or not). Either way, I would get 2 x 1GB sticks rather than 4 x 512mb sticks.

Thanks for the input. Yeah, the Core 2 Duo's and the new 8800's look fantastic and beyond words, but I'd probably only be able to get one (not both), and if I go for the video card, I'd have to get the GTS one, but I've heard it's not too much of a loss.

Thanks for the RAM info too. I highly doubt I'll be overclocking anytime soon, so I'll probably just stick with the PC4200, which I think is 533 MHz or something, and has been satisfactory for me so far. And I will consider the 2 x 1GB sticks more now, although it would be around $200 for 'em. Dammit, why didn't I just get a single 1GB stick to begin with :damn: .....I guess it's the "price I pay." Haha, funny joke :up: .

One last thing that's a bit unrelated. Does anyone know anything about ATI's DX10 cards, except that they've been delayed (again) ? For some reason, I've always liked ATI over nVidia, but I might decide to switch sides if the R600 fails to impress.

Nightmare
03-07-07, 11:43 AM
Thanks for the input. Yeah, the Core 2 Duo's and the new 8800's look fantastic and beyond words, but I'd probably only be able to get one (not both), and if I go for the video card, I'd have to get the GTS one, but I've heard it's not too much of a loss.
I haven’t read thru the entire thread so I’m not sure if you posted your computer specs or not. I’m currently in the process of building a new Core 2 Duo build with a 8800GTS, and the one thing that I found in my research before purchasing is that the 8800 cards require fast CPUs to get the full power out the card. The Futuremark forums had more than a dozen threads of people putting these new hot cards in older PCs and didn’t see the “blazing” speeds that others with newer builds are seeing. If you go the video card route, make sure your CPU is fast enough so that it won't become a bottleneck and that your power supply can handle it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/29/geforce_8800_needs_the_fastest_cpu/

pinokio
03-07-07, 12:48 PM
Hi,

which of these gfxs will be better for SHIV?
X1650XT or 7600GT?

I've got poor powersupply (350W), so i cannot risk to buy X1950Pro or 7900GS...

Thanks.

Kruger
03-07-07, 01:11 PM
7600GT has 12 pixel pipes, 1 texture mapping unit and 5 vertex processing units. X1650XT on the other hand has 24 pixel pipes, 1 texture mapping unit and 8 vertex processing units. So with twice as many pixel pipelines the X1650XT should have a performance advantage over the 7600GT.

This situation is on the paper. However, in practice you discover that both do the same job. My personal oppinion, based on my experience, is that sh3 (and of course sh4) engine, is slighlty optimized for ATI.

Ark
03-07-07, 03:57 PM
One last thing that's a bit unrelated. Does anyone know anything about ATI's DX10 cards, except that they've been delayed (again) ? For some reason, I've always liked ATI over nVidia, but I might decide to switch sides if the R600 fails to impress.

The next ATI card is, if the pcitures I've seen are correct and not just my eyes playing tricks on me,...HUGE. I think it might even be somewhat longer than an 8800GTX. Essentially, good luck fitting it in a Midsize tower. Also, you will probably want a much beefier PSU (depending on what else you were running).

I'm not much for brand loyalty, but I just don't like the size of the new ATI (as I stated earlier...if the pics I've seen of it aren't just a size misrepresentation). Keep in mind, ATI is playing catch-up. If I were you, I would wait to see what Nvidia has to answer ATI's offering. The 8800 series has been out a little while and has had more time to mature.

THE_MASK
03-07-07, 05:50 PM
I just came up with a solution for my computer worries . I will confiscate my sons laptop . He doesnt know it yet , but he owns a lean mean SH4 machine .

flintlock
03-07-07, 11:22 PM
I will confiscate my sons laptop . He doesnt know it yet Sometimes you just have to pull rank. :D

bert8for3
03-10-07, 02:30 PM
Ugh, thought I was going to be able to bump this comp from 1Gig up to 2Gig of RAM for sh4, ran this utility called PC Wizard which gave me the motherboard specs and said it could take 2 Gig. But the shop says it's wrong according to the HP specs for the comp ... should have checked the HP website, I guess. I only hope sh4 will run semi-ok - may have to crank down the video settings.

Javigato
03-10-07, 04:33 PM
Do you think I will be able to play with my new laptop?

AMD Turion™ 64 X2 mobile technology TL-56 at 1.8GHz
2GB RAM
120GB HD
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 (UMA)with up to 288MB shared video memory

Thanks!

canimodo
03-11-07, 09:56 AM
Hi Mr. ALL !!

:ping:

Will a 256Mb X800 Pro AGP 8x do ok on this new game ??


lol, btw i only found out US had subs in WW2 was when this game was announced.... :hmm:

tommyk
03-11-07, 10:32 AM
x800 is fast but has no Pixel Shader 3.0

Its hard to tell but maybe water will look like SH3 (not transparent). I have not seen a screenshot or comment how SH4 will look like with PS2.0

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107323

AJ!
03-11-07, 10:36 AM
You will be able to run the game fine on med-high detail :up:

I dont think PS 3.0 will be a problem either.

bert8for3
03-11-07, 11:09 AM
Discovering that my RAM isn't upgradeable beyond 1Gig has me thinking about a new comp, and about building my own ... does anyone know a how-to site that can help particularly in choosing components, making sure they're compatible etc? Also, a good direct-buy site in Canada? Right now I'm looking at Tiger Direct's Canadian site.

UBootMann
03-11-07, 11:24 AM
My buddy swears by, not at, NCIX for all his computer components. Direct price and product comparisons we have discussed in regards to upgrades and new builds specifically for new games like SH4 shows that NCIX can beat out even local brick and mortar discounters. Check 'em out.

His latest build topped out at ~2kC$ and is a kick-ass machine. All parts from NCIX, home assembled by him. I will be doing the same soon as soon as I have my 2k$ saved up and wll be my second home build and curiously enough SH is responsible, go figure.:hmm: New game, new computer needed. They got us by the short and curlies matey:arrgh!:

bert8for3
03-11-07, 11:33 AM
My buddy swears by, not at, NCIX for all his computer components. Direct price and product comparisons we have discussed in regards to upgrades and new builds specifically for new games like SH4 shows that NCIX can beat out even local brick and mortar discounters. Check 'em out.

His latest build topped out at ~2kC$ and is a kick-ass machine. All parts from NCIX, home assembled by him. I will be doing the same soon as soon as I have my 2k$ saved up and wll be my second home build and curiously enough SH is responsible, go figure.:hmm: New game, new computer needed. They got us by the short and curlies matey:arrgh!:

Thanks, I'll check that out. Maybe I can delude myself into thinking that I've got the system beat ... unlikely, the last part that is ... deluding myself not a prob :lol: .

PAW
03-13-07, 06:33 AM
I'm just glad i got into the sub scene BEFORE this comes out. Now i will fully appreciate how much of an improvement this WILL be over ANY submarine game so far.
And yeah, i'm scared after watching that preview.

I got
nVidia 7800 GS (256)
3GB RAM
Intel 3.0GHz PC

now although many might think this should be sufficient, I am not convinced.
I have tried playing Rainbow 6 : Vegas and Armed Assault and i STILL cannot pump my graphics up to full and experience flawless frames. (Note the "still" as i have been upgrading this ageing AGP for some time now). In fact i'm still having to mess around with the lower end settings.

Now a m8 of mine has an ATI (one of the last AGP's released). His graphics card is a 512 yet he has only 1 GB of ram, similar CPU and half the bus speed. HE can rack his graphics up very nicely indeed (plus the general image is better AA/AF + HDR possible).
I'm starting to wonder, is my graphics card really that terrible? or is it because my power supply isn't sufficient? I'm running on a 550 W power supply but my graphics card needs additional power (unlike my older FX5900 or something number like that) I fly alot so i power up TrackIR and my CH pedals/ stick/ throttle, and i've just recently purchased a Razer mouse and G15 logitech keyboard.
Is my power supply a problem? Is my graphics card the problem? Or have i overlooked something else?

ANY help would be much appreciated. I'm getting near broke now and really wanna buy this game. I also would hate to have to fork out ... quick look at OC.UK ... ANOTHER 100 quid for something that'll become redundant all too soon (gonna have to upgrade the whole system when Storm of War: Battle of Britain comes out... who knows what i'll need by then).

ReallyDedPoet
03-13-07, 07:47 AM
I finally get to check this page out as I am going to get a new computer, first I will wait to see how the game runs on my present one then go from there. Probably will build it from scratch:hmm:

THE_MASK
03-13-07, 06:34 PM
[quote=PAW]I'm just glad i got into the sub scene BEFORE this comes out. Now i will fully appreciate how much of an improvement this WILL be over ANY submarine game so far.
And yeah, i'm scared after watching that preview.

I got
nVidia 7800 GS (256)
3GB RAM
Intel 3.0GHz PC

Dear Paw . I bet that like SH3 , SH4 recommended specs will actually be the minimum specs , and thats for settings on low . I am more scared than you and so is my bank balance .

fastfed
03-13-07, 07:00 PM
How about my specs guys?

2.0 amd
1 or 2 gigs of ram ( cannot remember )
ati 9700 pro video card..


I know its pretty old, but it still plays almost all my games MAXED OUT!! Its weird, but I can play BF2 maxed out at 1024x768
oblivioun maxed out,
and of course SH3 maxed out..

I remember when SH3 came out and people were telling me then my system will barley be able to run it, but it runs it full max..

So will I be able to atleast turn down the res. on this and still play it?

rodan54
03-13-07, 07:18 PM
I had almost the exact same setup fastfed, and I'm sure you'll still be able to play SH4, with some lowering of the graphics settings obviously. ;)

Here's/was my setup

PIV 3.0Ghz
1GB Ram
ATI 9700 Pro (recently upgraded to 7800GS)

Though, without going too OT, I must say I'm supprised you could play BF2 at max settings with 1024x768 resolution. When I tried that, my computer, ATI 9700, went through all sorts of crazyness, artifacts, fps drops, etc.

fastfed
03-13-07, 07:41 PM
I had almost the exact same setup fastfed, and I'm sure you'll still be able to play SH4, with some lowering of the graphics settings obviously. ;)

Here's/was my setup

PIV 3.0Ghz
1GB Ram
ATI 9700 Pro (recently upgraded to 7800GS)

Though, without going too OT, I must say I'm supprised you could play BF2 at max settings with 1024x768 resolution. If I tried that my computer (9700) went through all sorts of crazyness, artifacts, fps drops, etc.

I know, that's why I wrote its weird..

The ONLY GAME TO DATE that will not even play on my computer is the new rainbow six, I bought it and realized I didn't have the specs.

AnthonyKennethDonaldCalve
03-14-07, 03:35 AM
My system:

AMD 64 FX-55 (2.6GHz)
2 GIG RAM
2 x GeForce 7800GT (256mb) SLI

Windows xp sp 2

I have seen the amazing screenshots and the fancy rendering and the incredible detail. I am worried.

Honest opinions please about how smoothly I can expect sh4 to run and which details I had better start expecting to switch off...

Thank you in advance for any advice,

Tony.

THE_MASK
03-14-07, 06:25 AM
My system:

AMD 64 FX-55 (2.6GHz)
2 GIG RAM
2 x GeForce 7800GT (256mb) SLI

Windows xp sp 2

I have seen the amazing screenshots and the fancy rendering and the incredible detail. I am worried.

Honest opinions please about how smoothly I can expect sh4 to run and which details I had better start expecting to switch off...

Thank you in advance for any advice,

Tony.

You are going to have to shorten your nickname mate . TonyCalve maybe .

Lt. Staumeier
03-14-07, 06:27 AM
My system:

AMD 64 FX-55 (2.6GHz)
2 GIG RAM
2 x GeForce 7800GT (256mb) SLI

Windows xp sp 2

I have seen the amazing screenshots and the fancy rendering and the incredible detail. I am worried.

Honest opinions please about how smoothly I can expect sh4 to run and which details I had better start expecting to switch off...

Thank you in advance for any advice,

Tony.


With that kind of machine you will have 0 problems running SHIV at max resolution and max details. I even think you'll be able to run the post-processing filter in real time. SLI-fitted cards sure makes up for a lot. Not sure SHIV supports SLI, but even ONE 7800 GT is more than enough. 2 Gb RAM helps hugely so you're all good, and I can't see the game requiring more than 2 GHz of processing power really. So I believe you're in for a treat.

mariuszj1939
03-14-07, 07:22 AM
I have :
Intel Pentium 4 CPU with 3,2 GHz 1,5 GB RAM GeForce 6600 (256 MB) .
Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings ?


I don't want to change card once again - as I have already done it to play SH3 !
What's Your opinion experts ?

ReallyDedPoet
03-14-07, 07:26 AM
Not sure about the card, but 2 gig instead of 1.5 would be a bonus, your processor should be fine.

Someone will further answer this.

Spray
03-14-07, 09:10 AM
I have :
Intel Pentium 4 CPU with 3,2 GHz 1,5 GB RAM GeForce 6600 (256 MB) .
Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings ?


I don't want to change card once again - as I have already done it to play SH3 !
What's Your opinion experts ?

No not all high at least, the Netburst framework is bad (P4) the 6600GT is slightly dated you want to be aiming around 7600GT a card probably 3 times stronger then a 6600GT for about $50 more. I need to know what ram you have if its 1.5GB 133MHZ DDR1 no if its 1.5GB DDR2 800MHZ thats good.

Razman23
03-14-07, 06:44 PM
A base Mac Pro is around $2500.00 USD

Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon "Woodcrest" processors
1GB memory (667MHz DDR2 fully-buffered DIMM ECC)
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT graphics with 256MB memory
250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7200-rpm hard drive1
16x double-layer SuperDriveAbove a typical and standard config (display is extra, though a nice 30" Cinema Display compliments it nicely).


I got this rig for $2300 out the door and in the mail.

INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6300 1.86 qty 1
320GB SATA II 3GB 16MB 7200RPM HD (OS) qty 1
320GB SATA II 3GB 16MB 7200RPM HD (DATA) qty 1
CASE FAN qty 3
COOLERMASTER LGA 775+ 3.6GHZ FAN qty 1
SILVER CM STACKER 831 W/WINS NO qty 1
LITEON 20X DVDRW LH-20A1H qty 1
SONY 1.44MB FLOPPY DRIVE qty 1
PS2 MULTIMEDIA KEYBOARD qty 1
LOGITECH OPTICAL WHEEL MOUSE qty 1
C2D ASUS P5N32-E SLI QUAD 680I 775 qty 1
WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE LICENSE qty 1
WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE COA qty 1
WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE 32-BIT qty 1
THERMALTAKE TOUGH POWER 750 WATT qty 1
7.1 SOUND qty 1
SPEAKER 600WATT PMPO W/ SUBWOOFER qty 1
OPTI-UPS SS1200 VOLT STABILIZER qty 1
USB 2.0 PEN DRIVE 2 GB qty 1
EVGA GEFORCE G8800 GTS 640MB PCI-E qty 1
USR 3092 OEM 56K V.92 MODEM qty 1
GEIL 1024MB DDR2 PC6400 MEMORY qty 2

I also got a Samsung 22" LCD monitor for $300 out the door and in the mail.

Javigato
03-14-07, 09:11 PM
Will this do? I don't play all that much, but this seems like a good one, and I'd like to give it a chance if I can.

HP Notebook
AMD Turion™ 64 X2 mobile technology TL-56 at 1.8GHz
2GB RAM
120GB HD
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 (UMA)with up to 288MB shared video memory

THE_MASK
03-14-07, 10:27 PM
I have to face the fact that i cannot afford to upgrade my 5 year oldd computer at the moment . No SH4 for me :damn:

mariuszj1939
03-15-07, 03:14 AM
I have :
Intel Pentium 4 CPU with 3,2 GHz 1,5 GB RAM GeForce 6600 (256 MB) .
Is that good enough to play SH4 with all settings ?


I don't want to change card once again - as I have already done it to play SH3 !
What's Your opinion experts ?

No not all high at least, the Netburst framework is bad (P4) the 6600GT is slightly dated you want to be aiming around 7600GT a card probably 3 times stronger then a 6600GT for about $50 more. I need to know what ram you have if its 1.5GB 133MHZ DDR1 no if its 1.5GB DDR2 800MHZ thats good.

some more details :
1536 MB (PC 3200 DDR SDRAM 400 MHz)
Gigabyte GA-81848P
Procesor FSB 200 MHz x 16

Torplexed
03-15-07, 08:19 PM
I have to face the fact that i cannot afford to upgrade my 5 year oldd computer at the moment . No SH4 for me :damn:
Same here. :cry: Guess I'll catch up later.

exz
03-16-07, 12:48 AM
just viewed the screenshots ... looks like it's gonnna need lots of RAM and Graphic! :shifty:

Charlie901
03-16-07, 02:35 PM
I honestly think you all are being way too pessimistic in your grapix requirement criteria for SHIV.

If this sim were not able to run well on MEDIUM Settings on a P43.0 system with 1gig of rdram and at least a 6600 series card then the causual gamer would be completely out of the ballpark on this one.

Remember the "casual gamer" is probably running with integrated GPU or only something "slightly" better and would never have more than a gig of ram.

If the devs want this one to have that "mass" appeal they wouldn't want customers to get annoyed with dropping the graphix to the bare minimum.

After all "Eye Candy" is an important selling point and marketing tool used to attract the casual gamers here!

THE_MASK
03-16-07, 04:31 PM
I have to face the fact that i cannot afford to upgrade my 5 year oldd computer at the moment . No SH4 for me :damn:
Same here. :cry: Guess I'll catch up later.

Annoying but hey , i can still annoy people on the forums . :up:

Prientje
03-17-07, 02:01 PM
I honestly think you all are being way too pessimistic in your grapix requirement criteria for SHIV.

If this sim were not able to run well on MEDIUM Settings on a P43.0 system with 1gig of rdram and at least a 6600 series card then the causual gamer would be completely out of the ballpark on this one.

Remember the "casual gamer" is probably running with integrated GPU or only something "slightly" better and would never have more than a gig of ram.

If the devs want this one to have that "mass" appeal they wouldn't want customers to get annoyed with dropping the graphix to the bare minimum.

After all "Eye Candy" is an important selling point and marketing tool used to attract the casual gamers here!



you absolutly right with your opinion....

SH IV will run very good on medium comps with most times maxed out graphic settings...

don't be afraid dear friends, you must not have a monster comp for this game...

i know it...

CaptainChunk
03-18-07, 12:45 AM
I have a AMd Athlon 3300+~2.4ghz, BFG OC 6600 vid card 128 mb, 2 gigs of ram, and was curious if the game would run on medium to medium-lowish settings alright?

I saw pictures from that Swedish guy who already got his copy and his specs weren't that hot so I was curious how I'd do. I know my computer isn't the fastest thing out there but I've been prowling the forums and this thread for awhile and seen a few configurations out there similar to mine that people think they can run SH4 on.

Great community, btw.

xboxer
03-18-07, 12:44 PM
Can someone tell me how well my rig can handle SH4?

My LCD is native at 1280x1024.

My rig specs:

AMD Athlon 3200 2.2ghz
1.5gig ram
7600GT

I really hope to play on HIGH............. :sunny: :sunny:

rls669
03-18-07, 02:02 PM
How much hard drive space does it need? I just read that Unreal Tournament 3 is 30gig and I just about had a stroke.

Gizzmoe
03-18-07, 02:06 PM
How much hard drive space does it need?

Around 4.5GB.

Teho
03-18-07, 07:44 PM
AMD64 3800
2 gigs MEM
7900GTX 512mb

how well does this setup perform? :/\\chop

xboxer
03-19-07, 01:32 AM
AMD64 3800
2 gigs MEM
7900GTX 512mb

how well does this setup perform? :/\\chop
Everything maxed out of course!

leeclose
03-19-07, 02:26 AM
How will my p4 3.0 Hyperthreading
1 gig of ddr 2 ram
and a 256 meg ddr2 ATI 1600pro vid card run it ???

I feel a excuse to go buy another gig of ram coming on muhahaha:up: