Smart 18 to 22 year olds listen up ...

[geetrue]

Did you know a nuclear trained person can make
$62 k annually in the U.S. Navy submarine service?

Let me estimate for you.
These are conservative numbers on the low side.


E-6 over 8 yrs: 2200/mo
7 yrs sea pay: 350/mo
7 yrs sub duty: 350/mo
nuc pay: 150/mo
Hawaii BAH: 1900/mo w/dep
COLA: 200/mo
Total for year: 61800 w/o bonus

If your between 18-22 now that would be 7 years down the road, plus a lot of hard work and
study hardy. It would take about two years of schooling before you even get to be on a submarine,
plus this is just for enlisted men.

College graduates = officer candidate school = the figures would be the same only sooner.

This is after you turn 25-29, but still the job sure does pay good.

So what were you going to do for the next six or seven years anyway,
play games?

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Hmm... How much is American citizenship? :rotfl:

Are these numbers correct? Where did you get them? Is it much to earn 62k a year in US? Just curious...

[Boris]

Are you sure? That's huge! I don't believe it.

Enlisted men only make about 30 to 40 grand (Aussie money) in the Australian forces, about 50 for a junior officer, and I've always been told they're better paid than the Americans.

[geetrue]

Hmm... How much is American citizenship? :rotfl:

Are these numbers correct? Where did you get them? Is it much to earn 62k a year in US? Just curious...

True figures, but that's a married person with dependants living in Hawaii, where a lot of submarines are stationed. That includes sea pay and sub pay which is based on how long you have been in the Navy (but I pre-figured that too).

They only pay $150 extra a month for being nuclear trained, so if you wanted to be a sonarman or radioman or weapons type of person reduce the 62k figure down to say 60k a year.

I made $750 a month in the US Navy submarine service, married w/dependants in 1970 and that was 37 years ago ... I was living high on the hog in those days, but I had to give a couple of hundred dollars back every month for Navy housing.

Still you have free medical, base exchange, commissary privilages, etc.

I'll go find a link to prove it ... plus get it in writing if you join up ... not that you can sue, but the Navy likes to promise and not deliver too ...

Here's the link: http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/380190923/m/3080053740001/p/3

[SUBMAN1]

That money is excellent considering in the Navy, you have few expenses. Its all play money!

-S

[August]

Still you have free medical, base exchange, commissary privilages, etc.

And for single guys free room and board, uniforms, free training and more. The military is a pretty good deal financially compared to back when we were in.

[AVGWarhawk]

Great money and three hots plus a cot.....easy living for a single dude:up:

[CCIP]

Just when you had me excited, it had to say "US" :damn:

[ASWnut101]

Fly down here and get a U.S. citizenship! But by then, you'll be like 35.:cool:

[Bort]

I wanted sooooo badly to be an officer in High School ( I was a Sea Cadet then) and I still want to be an officer now that i'm in college, but I know it's not to be. The Navy wants every officer to be a mathematical genius these days for some reason, and I can't divide my way out of a wet paper bag so that pretty much sinks that career choice for me.:stare: Nuke officers are held to even higher standards than that so good luck to anyone who wants to give it a try, hope your last name is einstein...

[CCIP]

haha, yea, that's my problem too... I'm mathematically-retarded (and by now somewhat over-educated in social sciences, i.e. Master's level)

Then there's the issue that I'd probably need a year of rigorous workouts just to get into proper shape for military service. So I think a military career (with all my respect for military folks) is waaay down on my list...

[Snowman999]

I wanted sooooo badly to be an officer in High School ( I was a Sea Cadet then) and I still want to be an officer now that i'm in college, but I know it's not to be. The Navy wants every officer to be a mathematical genius these days for some reason, and I can't divide my way out of a wet paper bag so that pretty much sinks that career choice for me.:stare: Nuke officers are held to even higher standards than that so good luck to anyone who wants to give it a try, hope your last name is einstein...

I was an officer, a History major, and a math-dummy all rolled into one. Solution? Supply Corps!

I got to stand COW, DOOW, and OOD, but no in-port watches. Heaven.

About 20% of the USN officer ranks are non-line staff corps officers. There are many varieties. Expand your point-of-view if you want to serve.

(Actually, the reason I was SC was eyesight. I could have handled more math if I had to in order to fly, but I wasn't going to be any kind of line officer let alone an aviator . . .)

[geetrue]

Welcome aboard snowman ... Supply officer's rule, but they sure got a lot of our #10 can of mixed peanuts in return for favors ... if it filtered up to your level that is ... :lol:

[Shaffer4]

My father was supposed to be a submariner... but sadly they sunk his sub... in port before he had a chance.. and before she was even finished (USS.Guitarro).

So, he was deployed to USS. Midway instead, One of the first three SINS Techs (Ships. Internal. Navigation. System.) which was new at the time. (Interestingly enough, His career after the navy has been in the Nuclear Industry.. )



Theres only one reason I can say I didn't join the Navy... well two...

I'm not clautraphobic, but yeesh! (photo of me (mother in the background) in the Midway Mess hall at my Dad's Navy reunion last May. That and I am a weeeeee :shifty: bit portly.. lol

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/Shaffer4/Maxheadroom.jpg

[geetrue]

Hello Shaffer,

The picture didn't show up, just a red x ... We forgive you for being over weight. We all like to eat ... :p

But I have a great SINS story for you (Ships. Internal. Navigation. System)
some of the story is top secret ... so I'll leave out how we knew where we were, but I was on the USS Ethan Allen SSBN 608 blue crew back in 68 when this one happened. We were just cruising along about 3 or 4kts on patrol at 200'

SINS was how we always knew where we were without having to shoot the stars like the old diesel boats had to do. The ET's had their own little space behind the control room with a little makeshift desk that looked more like a chart table more than anything else with a curtain to hide behind. The navigator was sitting there reading a book and kicking his feet under the table when he accidentally kicked the most important item that SINS needed to keep it's mathmactical calculations all in order to plot not only our course and speed and things like that, but for the missiles to recieve their last information before taking off to destinations unknown.

The important piece of equipment? Was an electronic digital counter clock ... :lol:
Just plugged into a regular wall socket underneath the table. :oops:

Yep! We had to come to periscope depth and take readings, plus get the correct time from our U.S. Navy friendly people in Colorado ... NORAD I think is what they were called.

So there's a story you can tell your father the next time you see him.

[flyingdane]

18-22.. Hahaha http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/flyingdane/eck05.gif

[flintlock]

three hots plus a cot.
There's the clincher right there! Nevermind the career or monetary reward.

@geetrue: great story. ;)

[NefariousKoel]

If the Navy had a use for overpaid 31 year old alcoholics with progressively worse memory, I'd be there for that scratch. :rock:

[Snowman999]

Welcome aboard snowman ... Supply officer's rule, but they sure got a lot of our #10 can of mixed peanuts in return for favors ... if it filtered up to your level that is ... :lol:

Thanks for the welcome. I've been reading these forums for years, but never registered. Been playing sub sims since Apple IIe days and Microprose's first classic.

We refitted out of Kings Bay (I was in a C-4 backfit Lafayette-class), and I did indeed know the pleasures of cumshaw. The Food Service Officer on the tender was an LDO with a black-heart--we got along great. (My dad was an LDO bubblehead turned tender rat.)

I used the MCC outboards for my goodie stash. The FTBs could be trusted so long as I gave them a cut, and they DID work behind a bank vault door. I got all my quality haircuts underway from the FTB1--a can a cashews and I was just the prettiest thing . . .

[Shaffer4]

Hello Shaffer,

The picture didn't show up, just a red x ... We forgive you for being over weight. We all like to eat ... :p

But I have a great SINS story for you (Ships. Internal. Navigation. System)
some of the story is top secret ... so I'll leave out how we knew where we were, but I was on the USS Ethan Allen SSBN 608 blue crew back in 68 when this one happened. We were just cruising along about 3 or 4kts on patrol at 200'

SINS was how we always knew where we were without having to shoot the stars like the old diesel boats had to do. The ET's had their own little space behind the control room with a little makeshift desk that looked more like a chart table more than anything else with a curtain to hide behind. The navigator was sitting there reading a book and kicking his feet under the table when he accidentally kicked the most important item that SINS needed to keep it's mathmactical calculations all in order to plot not only our course and speed and things like that, but for the missiles to recieve their last information before taking off to destinations unknown.

The important piece of equipment? Was an electronic digital counter clock ... :lol:
Just plugged into a regular wall socket underneath the table. :oops:

Yep! We had to come to periscope depth and take readings, plus get the correct time from our U.S. Navy friendly people in Colorado ... NORAD I think is what they were called.

So there's a story you can tell your father the next time you see him.
Weird. It shows up on my end just fine, though its probably just cached on my machine.. lol its on photobucket, heres a link http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/Shaffer4/Maxheadroom.jpg hopefully that will work ;) (i'm in the area of 6' 7-8" tall just for referance.

I'll be sure to relay the tale, next time I chat with him. It was a blast listening to him chat with all his old navy buddies at that reunion; listening to all the tales is the best part. the funniest bit was when we first arrived, and having not seen each other in 30+ years most of them thought I was my father.. and those that recognized him did so by seeing me, as I look most like what they remember.