As much as i enjoy type 9's......

[Ducimus]

I have to admit, the IXD2 is just too damn big. I never realized how big they really are until one day.. a long time ago, i got blasted to the surface and subsquently rammed.

http://www.ducimus.net/sh3/convoy_test_4.jpg
Note size compared to the DE.


But thats not the boat that i just lost. Acutally, come to think of it, i havent had a IXD2 career where i DIDN'T lose the boat. :hmm:

My latest loss... well... maybe i should look into the 2nd patrol club.

All things considered, i think i did exceptionally well given the year, boat, and ASW i encountered.


Here is the ONLY single merchant i sank:

18 Jan 1943
0710 ET 82 Ship sunk! C2 Cargo, 4864 tons

Here is the attack on the first convoy i encountered

07 Feb 1943
0138 GR 58 Ship sunk! Bogue Class, 15390 tons
0312 GR 58 Ship sunk! Tramp Steamer, 1969 tons
0328 GR 58 Ship sunk! River Class , 1350 tons
0406 GR 58 Ship sunk! River Class , 1350 tons

yeah, soo... well, that escort carrier was ticking me off. I saw him, and he' was all i focused on. The first DE happen to get in line with my aft tube before i went deep and received a healthy depth charging. The last DE came back sniffing around for me after i finished off the tramp steamer. Surpised the hell out of me too, he crawled right up my baffels. Popped the scope and there he was.



Heres the results of an attack on a second convoy i encountered, south of madagascar, NE of Durban.

17 Feb 1943
0445 87 Ship sunk! Troop Transport, 8279 tons
0630 87 Ship sunk! Heavy Transport, 7521 tons


Again, a healthy depth charging. I honestly didnt think id survive but i did.


On 22 Feb 1943, i encountered a 3rd convoy and prosocuted another attack. As if i hadnt learned my lesson from the two previous "payoffs" i recieved. Two magnetic shots under the keel of a T3 tanker. Both of which hit. Never saw him sink though. Shot two more at a T2 tanker. One prematured, the other missed.

This depth charging was even longer, and with the uboat twice damaged by near hits, i was forced to go shallower and shallower. When i couldnt go deeper then 170 meters without being crushed i knew my chances of surviving was 10 to 1. After the yet another masssive bombadment (i honestly thought theyd run out of depth charges soon) i recieved a hit which forced me to blow ballast. 10 seconds later, another one landed right forward of the conning tower, and that was all she wrote.


3 convoy attacks, 3 depth charging's, and all with the exterior camera off i might add. After the second convoy attack i was seriously consiering avoiding convoys. Of course when i made contact with that 3rd convoy i didnt think twice about it and attacked. Obviously i shouldnt have. :roll:

[Castout]

I hate type IXs they're big hence easy to detect via active sonar and they turn veryyyy slo o o o o o o o o o o o o o o ow. Plus their underwater performance is poor(poor speed). And yeah almost forgot their dive time is miserable and they got noticed a lot further by her enemy hence you need to give longer underwater chase.:down:

No wonder about your career results with type IXs

I prefer type VIIB/C they're fast)even faster with upgraded engine albeit with the cost in range), small enough to avoid active sonar(especially with sonar coating) and they're agile(fast dive time, turn faster). It's perfect :up:

[Morts]

I hate type IXs they're big hence easy to detect via active sonar and they turn veryyyy slo o o o o o o o o o o o o o o ow. Plus their underwater performance is poor(poor speed). And yeah almost forgot their dive time is miserable and they got noticed a lot further by her enemy hence you need to give longer underwater chase.:down:

No wonder about your career results with type IXs


you VII fanatic:down:


if you know how to handle a type IX boat
its a piece of cake to get through depth charge attacks or plane attacks or whatever
but if you dont know how to handle the boat (seems like you dont)
you're going straight to the bottom

and ducimus
IX types werent s'posed to attack convoys but act alone

[Mooncatt]

yeah i dont like the bigger boats either big margin of error for the dds when they dc you. i go as far as a IXB no bigger

[mookiemookie]

I've slowly turned into a Type IX convert myself. If you love attacking convoys in the same few grid squares in the North Atlantic, by all means go for your Type VII. If you like to be sent who knows where and have new adventures in exotic locales, then the Type IX is for you.

I do notice the longer dive times on the Type IX's, but I never noticed the slower underwater speed. A half a knot on top underwater speed doesn't really matter to me, as I never really use top speed underwater anyways.

[stabiz]

I have been playing online alot lately, and my mate always use the IXD2 (although I told him he was a tonnage-tosser), so I started using it sometimes because he was getting all the tonnage before I could reload.

I dont like it, its too easy to mess up late war convoys when two(or more) boats are pumped full of Falke`s. And - as Ducimus says - its so big! I actually think an oil rig could dive faster!

Next time I`m gonna insist on using VII`s with only one rear Falke.

I like the IX-class, dont get me wrong, but when the kitchen gets hot nothing beats the Formula 1-agility of the VII! :D

PS: I must admit I grinned when we attacked a Task Force last night. He killed off a few DD`s and a Carrier with his 5000 Falke`s, and subsequently got blown to bits while trying to crash dive at 1mph. I got away in My VIIC with approx the same tonnage after a while, but alive.

[STEED]

Us IX Captains get to see the world so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :|\\

[danurve]

Guys;

You know why IX skippers are so grumpy?
It's all the money they spend. No, not like renown but on a 2nd. computer.
One for the game, and the other to browse the forum while waiting for their IX to dive. :rotfl:

[Tiny]

Who needs a big sub.

[STEED]

New York, New York can a Type VII sail there, NO. :rotfl: :rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Who needs a big sub.

No one named Tiny:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Gezoes]

I attack convoys all the time in my IXB! :up:

Ofcourse it's only 1940. That's true.

[Finback]

Yep. I lile the challenge of a type IX but I doubt their crews did. Guess there is a good reason why they typically went to areas where ships were largely unescorted. But where's the fun in that?

:yep:

[Keelbuster]

Duce,

love the story. I'm in an IXC now, and was thinking of going for the D2, but maybe now I'll stay with what i've got. My few past experience with the D2 have also been short. Maybe that boat's just too damn big.

Anyway - I always love to hear stories about a good depth-charging. I'd love to get detected for a change. In my past career (VIIC) I pulled 18 patrols and attacked convoys on every patrol, often several times. I was only detected by escorts once i think, and was no close depth charging. It was a little boring actually. Now that I'm in the IXC, I hope i cast a bigger shadow and maybe sweat a bit. So if you're switching to the VII class, remember that small is safer, so much so even that it can get boring.

Last night, second patrol with no ex cam, I thought I was going to see some hairy action. There were 4 torps that i had to spend before returning to base (Apr 1941). Mouth of gibraltar, slow convoy eastbound. Glassy water. I drift into the convoy at PD, 2kts silent. Lead Black Swan never suspects a thing. He's so steady I even use him to estimate the convoy speed with stad. readings. I proceed to attack and sink two Large Merchants (with the whopping GWX tonnage of 14k each) . I turn into the convoy begin my descent, 3kts at first, and then back to 1kt. Over the hydrophone I hear some angry warship screws chugging about in my rear. No pings. No DC. Nothing. I drift out of the convoy again. I'm itchin for a depth-charging. If i had sonar i might have sent out a 'hello!' ping. Man I need a close call. Maybe I'll take a suicide run in single player just to get it out of my system so I don't blow this career.

Kb

[Slick Rick]

What was the difference in displacement between a Gato class and a Balao class....anybody know??

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Gotta agree with STEED on globetrotting :lol: value of IX type boats. But trying to attack an escorted convoy in one of those is a suicidal tendency. VIIb on the other hand is the most agile of them all (except XXI) and historically the most successful boat of the whole war.
Even though i like my VIIb the most i'm quite eager to try the "big kahuna" and sail it to the tropics.:up:
Cheerio.

[Paajtor]

New York, New York can a Type VII sail there, NO. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes, she can...key-word: milk-cow!:p

[mookiemookie]

What was the difference in displacement between a Gato class and a Balao class....anybody know??

According to Wikipedia, there was no difference.

[Ducimus]

LOL don't get me wrong, you wont see me in a type 7 very often.

Personllay i think the IXC/40 is like the perfect uboat. Has the speed, range and it isnt to big.

As to IXD2's displacement compared to a gato, their very similar in dimensions. But there are other factors that weigh against you in an IXD2. Stronger ASW for starters, and the oceans offer less in the way of protection. I beleive pacific probably has greater salinity and more thermal layers to offer for protection.

Now as to you type7 guys who love this little story... oh hush. Given the year and amount of convoy protection what i did would have been hard in ANY boat (except a 21 maybe). Those convoys had no less then 6 escorts each, and they were drawn in pretty close to the convoy. Leaving a very small gap to exploit to penetrate the defenses. I managed to pull off an attack, not once, but three times on a submerged approach!

EDIT:
Oh and BTW, ive only lost an IXC career game to a depth charging once that i can recall.

[STEED]

New York, New York can a Type VII sail there, NO. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes, she can...key-word: milk-cow!:p

FAT CHANCE IN 1940/41 :p :p :p

[Sailor Steve]

Yes, a type VII can easily sail from Kiel to New York in 1939.


Just don't plan on sailing back.:rotfl:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Imagine trying to get a IXD through the Kiel canal :rotfl:Your bow will poke out near Wilhelmshaven just as your stern is leaving the pen at Kiel!

[danurve]

New York, New York can a Type VII sail there, NO. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes, she can...key-word: milk-cow!:p

FAT CHANCE IN 1940/41 :p :p :p

Speaking of FAT

IX*cough*DD*cough*sonar magnet :gulp: :cool:

[STEED]

Yes, a type VII can easily sail from Kiel to New York in 1939.


Just don't plan on sailing back.:rotfl:

The time a Type VII gets there Bernard will be on the lunch menu. :lol:

[High Voltage]

Us IX Captains get to see the world so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :|\\

Yeah, namely the ocean floor... 3000feet straight down! ;)

[STEED]

Us IX Captains get to see the world so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :|\\

Yeah, namely the ocean floor... 3000feet straight down! ;)

More Torps= More kills. :p :p :p

[Tiny]

Who needs a big sub.

No one named Tiny:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Damn, sometimes this name strikes right back at ya. :damn:

:rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Who needs a big sub.
No one named Tiny:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Damn, sometimes this name strikes right back at ya. :damn:

:rotfl:

I could not help myself man. Just to good to pass up:roll:

[WilhelmSchulz.]

ow! :dead:

[bigboywooly]

VIIb on the other hand is the most agile of them all (except XXI) and historically the most successful boat of the whole war.

Cheerio.

:hmm:

True a VIIB was the most succesfull boat - U 48

But as a class the IXB takes it

http://uboat.net/types/index.html

[Keelbuster]

VIIb on the other hand is the most agile of them all (except XXI) and historically the most successful boat of the whole war.

Cheerio.
:hmm:

True a VIIB was the most succesfull boat - U 48

But as a class the IXB takes it

http://uboat.net/types/index.html
IXC beats IXB. Fuel, torps, max depth(?).

kb

[Ducimus]

I've always contended that the reason why the IXB recieved that title is because it came on the scene early in the war when ASW as at it's weakest. If the IXC had came into being at the exact same time the title would probably flop over to it instead.

If the IXB came into existance later in the war, it wouldnt have been as successful.

[Gezoes]

What was the difference in displacement between a Gato class and a Balao class....anybody know??

According to David Miller's Illustrated Directory of Submarines of The World:

Gato
1526 tons
2410 tons, submerged

Balao
1525 tons
2415 tons, submerged

Tench
1570 tons
2415 tons, submerged

:know:

[Iron Budokan]

Wow, until I saw that picture I never realized how big the IXD was!

[stabiz]

VIIb on the other hand is the most agile of them all (except XXI) and historically the most successful boat of the whole war.

Cheerio.
:hmm:

True a VIIB was the most succesfull boat - U 48

But as a class the IXB takes it

http://uboat.net/types/index.html
Yes, but no IX-kaleun likes to be reminded why the IX-class was so sucessful.

America ...cough ... no convoy systems ...cough ... neon lights ...cough...Admiral King... cough ...big fat tankers from Texas ... cough.

[Morts]

VIIb on the other hand is the most agile of them all (except XXI) and historically the most successful boat of the whole war.

Cheerio.
:hmm:

True a VIIB was the most succesfull boat - U 48

But as a class the IXB takes it

http://uboat.net/types/index.html
Yes, but no IX-kaleun likes to be reminded why the IX-class was so sucessful.

America ...cough ... no convoy systems ...cough ... neon lights ...cough...Admiral King... cough ...big fat tankers from Texas ... cough.
couugh....stop....cough....coughin
:rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

My boat is bigger than your boat....yeah, my dad said so....nah nah nah !:roll:

[Morts]

My boat is bigger than your boat....yeah, my dad said so....nah nah nah !:roll:
nuuh uhhh
my uboat is so much bigger than ur uboat:rotfl:

[bigboywooly]

Yes, but no IX-kaleun likes to be reminded why the IX-class was so sucessful.

America ...cough ... no convoy systems ...cough ... neon lights ...cough...Admiral King... cough ...big fat tankers from Texas ... cough.

:hmm: America eh

Not off Africa then ?


But he became famous with his second patrol on U-107 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=107). Kptlt. Günther Hessler put out from Lorient, France at 19:30 on 29 March, 1941 for what would become the most successful patrol of the entire war against Allied merchant shipping. She left the base along with U-94 (http://uboat.net/boats/u94.htm) commanded by Kptlt. Kuppisch (http://uboat.net/men/kuppisch.htm), but then U-107 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=107) headed southwards. Her operational area was around the Canary Islands and near Freetown, where she sank 14 ships for a total of 86,699 tons


Or the middle of the Atlantic ?


From January 1941 he operated mostly in Atlantic waters. But his peak he reached on his second patrol when he sank during the spring of 1941 in the middle of the Atlantic 12 ships for a total of 71,450 tons. It was the second most successful patrol (http://uboat.net/ops/top_patrols.htm) of the whole war, second only to Hessler (http://uboat.net/men/hessler.htm)'s incredible patrol on U-107 (http://uboat.net/boats/u107.htm).


Atlantic ?

In July 1940 he took over U-103 (http://uboat.net/boats/u103.htm) and attacked convoys in the Atlantic and in African waters. In August 1941 he left this boat.

Top 3 most succesfull patrols
All IXB
And NONE near the US and before the US entered the war

http://uboat.net/ops/top_patrols.htm

:rotfl:

[Slick Rick]

What was the difference in displacement between a Gato class and a Balao class....anybody know??

According to David Miller's Illustrated Directory of Submarines of The World:

Gato
1526 tons
2410 tons, submerged

Balao
1525 tons
2415 tons, submerged

Tench
1570 tons
2415 tons, submerged

:know: I am assuming that these three had roughly the same range as a type VII.....Is this true?

[AVGWarhawk]

My boat is bigger than your boat....yeah, my dad said so....nah nah nah !:roll: nuuh uhhh
my uboat is so much bigger than ur uboat:rotfl:

I'm taking my boat and going home then:nope:

[Ducimus]

No, the range was more comparable to an IXD2. Type VII isn't even in the same ballpark, it was left miles behind.


On a side note, i think i need to get back into an IXC and rediem myself, members of IXoholics anonymous, and those sea cows we love so much.

[CaptainAsh]

Actually you just gave me the curiosity about trying the type IX :)

[Morts]

My boat is bigger than your boat....yeah, my dad said so....nah nah nah !:roll: nuuh uhhh
my uboat is so much bigger than ur uboat:rotfl:

I'm taking my boat and going home then:nope:
you do that

like i care:shifty:



:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Morts]

Actually you just gave me the curiosity about trying the type IX :)

join the IX side
and i will grant you.....well...nothing?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
(star wars joke)

[Ducimus]

If i were to define why type9's are so appealing:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=383361&postcount=8

If i were to romantcize (sp) it a wee bit.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=340079&postcount=21

[Morts]

hey ducimus that above link is from my thread
ITS COPYRIGHTED

cya in court

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

J/K

[stabiz]

Yes, but no IX-kaleun likes to be reminded why the IX-class was so sucessful.

America ...cough ... no convoy systems ...cough ... neon lights ...cough...Admiral King... cough ...big fat tankers from Texas ... cough.
:hmm: America eh

Not off Africa then ?


But he became famous with his second patrol on U-107 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=107). Kptlt. Günther Hessler put out from Lorient, France at 19:30 on 29 March, 1941 for what would become the most successful patrol of the entire war against Allied merchant shipping. She left the base along with U-94 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=94) commanded by Kptlt. Kuppisch (http://uboat.net/men/kuppisch.htm), but then U-107 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=107) headed southwards. Her operational area was around the Canary Islands and near Freetown, where she sank 14 ships for a total of 86,699 tons

Or the middle of the Atlantic ?


From January 1941 he operated mostly in Atlantic waters. But his peak he reached on his second patrol when he sank during the spring of 1941 in the middle of the Atlantic 12 ships for a total of 71,450 tons. It was the second most successful patrol (http://uboat.net/ops/top_patrols.htm) of the whole war, second only to Hessler (http://uboat.net/men/hessler.htm)'s incredible patrol on U-107 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=107).

Atlantic ?

In July 1940 he took over U-103 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=103) and attacked convoys in the Atlantic and in African waters. In August 1941 he left this boat.

Top 3 most succesfull patrols
All IXB
And NONE near the US and before the US entered the war

http://uboat.net/ops/top_patrols.htm

:rotfl:
:roll: Just tip-toing around my point: The IX-class was hunting single and/or unguarded ships most of the time.

[bigboywooly]

LMAO what was the last quote

In July 1940 he took over U-103 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=103) and attacked convoys in the Atlantic and in African waters. In August 1941 he left this boat.

Oh convoys
:rotfl:

Cough....no bright lights....cough......convoy systems.....cough

I like the IXB
For real long range stuff I take the pig D2

[Tijn]

I mainly use an Type 7 boat because i'm hooked on attacking convoy, and don't really care about long trips to distant places. But my recent career i'm using an 9c boat, and it's not that bad. I like the range of the 9 but dislike the size and agility, but with a 9c it's not that bad. And i like the lonely hunter stuff.

But. I really hate the 9D2. It's just way out of proportion. I like to see uboat's as small nimble hunters, that stalk the big powerfull enemy. The D2 for me is just a big torpedo platform. I know if really look at the differences between a 9c and a D2 there not that big, but it's a feeling.


Grtz Tijn


PS: Just look over the front of an D2 from the conning tower, it just never ends.....

[bigboywooly]

All true
But you cant beat it on the real long patrols
Dont think a VII would make it to Penang

[danurve]

:doh:
I think the VII's abilities are one thing, but the idea is not having to go a few extra thousand miles for your kills/convoys.
Then getting back to port for more toys.

Besides I hear the only way an IX boat can afford the extra payload is buy stocking cheap beer, beans and corn chips (http://www.fartifacts.com/fart_sounds/Blazing%20Saddles%20-%20More%20Beans.mp3) for dinner. :huh:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

My boat is bigger than your boat....yeah, my dad said so....nah nah nah !:roll: nuuh uhhh
my uboat is so much bigger than ur uboat:rotfl:
I'm taking my boat and going home then:nope:



Right, thats it! We're turning around and going home! No Disneyland for you, Bernard!

[STEED]

This thread is so funny. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Ducimus]

All true
But you cant beat it on the real long patrols
Dont think a VII would make it to Penang

No it wouldn't. Im skeptical of a 9c could making that trip sans milkcow too. a patrol in a 9D2 could EASILY last 110 days.

[AVGWarhawk]

My boat is bigger than your boat....yeah, my dad said so....nah nah nah !:roll: nuuh uhhh
my uboat is so much bigger than ur uboat:rotfl:
I'm taking my boat and going home then:nope:



Right, thats it! We're turning around and going home! No Disneyland for you, Bernard!

Mom, Kaptain Phillips is not playing fair:cry:. I promise I'll play nice....I swear.

[Ducimus]

:
I think the VII's abilities are one thing, but the idea is not having to go a few extra thousand miles for your kills/convoys.


I think the idea was to hit the enemy where they'd least expect it, or hit them where they are, or would hurt the most. Can't be allowing the other side having safe haven's now can we? :88)

[danurve]

:
I think the VII's abilities are one thing, but the idea is not having to go a few extra thousand miles for your kills/convoys.


I think the idea was to hit the enemy where they'd least expect it, or hit them where they are, or would hurt the most. Can't be allowing the other side having safe haven's now can we? :88)

No we can't, exactly. Which is why the Bay of Biscay is so important to VII's :arrgh!:

[Corrupt_File]

Face it, IX's are for us guys that like to be known to last for a long time. VII's are known for their small size, limited firepower and range.

[Tessa]

Putting aside the range capacity aside for a second, I think whats frustrating to a lot of ppl with the type IX's is there's no intermediary size between the the VII's and IX's. Its like learning how to drive using a Honda Civic, and then once you get your license you get handed an old school Cadillac. Your not used to having such a large amount of ship to suddenly deal with. Though the game's progression of boat types is historically correct, trying to deal with something so large the first few times after being in such an agile ship is not something that comes naturally to everyone.

[bigboywooly]

:doh:
Besides I hear the only way an IX boat can afford the extra payload is buy stocking cheap beer, beans and corn chips (http://www.fartifacts.com/fart_sounds/Blazing%20Saddles%20-%20More%20Beans.mp3) for dinner. :huh:

My crew dine on only the best food
Once the bananas and ham have gone we raid the merchants to fill our larder
Of course we get a nice choice beng so far out on patrol
All those African and US goodies

All you poor VII boyz can expect is some bully beef and spam
:rotfl:

[danurve]

Face it, IX's are for us guys that like to be known to last for a long time. :dead: yaaaawn

VII's are known for their small size, limited firepower and range. Realy now, ..
Well lets see currently on patrol in AN 58-59, & 72-73 my poor ill-equiped VIIB has polished off 2 C2's, 2 C3's, foul weather & seas on the heavy side. Not to mention a torpedo boat 88`ed after I snuck into the shallows so I could load externals, all the while dodging 6 spitfires and evading 2 DD's. 6 steamers left, probably 2/3 fuel reserve.

How's your last patrol in that IX sonar magnet going? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

[danurve]

:doh:
Besides I hear the only way an IX boat can afford the extra payload is buy stocking cheap beer, beans and corn chips (http://www.fartifacts.com/fart_sounds/Blazing%20Saddles%20-%20More%20Beans.mp3) for dinner. :huh:

My crew dine on only the best food
Once the bananas and ham have gone we raid the merchants to fill our larder
Of course we get a nice choice beng so far out on patrol
All those African and US goodies

All you poor VII boyz can expect is some bully beef and spam
:rotfl:

Spam rocks! :rock: Mold, .. it's good for you.

[AVGWarhawk]

How's your last patrol in that IX sonar magnet going? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif


Good one!:rotfl:

[Corrupt_File]

How's your last patrol in that IX sonar magnet going? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Great actually. Hit a 4 T3's on the way into to the Port of Spain and got a liner with some other nice guys inside. A nice 70ktonne patrol.

Yeah, and about the sonar magnet, deep and slow wins the race. I could be holding iron ore in my boat and still get away at 270m. Lets see that in a pea shooter.

(To be honest, I love the VII, did a few careers with one, but I much prefer the IXC/40)

[Gezoes]

Well, so far so good ;) Sank only one or two with the deckgun, the weather was horrible :rotfl:

Name: JUP FLIEGERHOSEN :D
Date of Birth: 12JAN13
Place of Birth: NEUSTRELITZ
Date of Intake: 01APR34 (CREW 34)

07 Jan 1940
0957 Patrol 3
U-123, IXB, 2nd Flotilla
Left at: January 7, 1940, 09:57
Returned at: 10th February, 1940.
From: Wilhelmshaven

Mission Orders: Patrol grid AM77
20 Jan 1940
0356 BF 27 Ship sunk! Pyro Ammunition ship, 7367 tons
0358 BF 27 Ship sunk! Pyro Ammunition ship, 7365 tons
0834 BF 27 Ship sunk! S.S. Cornish City (Large Cargo), 6406 tons
0835 BF 27 Ship sunk! S.S. Caribou (Large Cargo), 6407 tons
1607 BF 19 Ship sunk! S.S. Athelempress (Large Tanker), 8789 tons

21 Jan 1940
0316 BF 15 Ship sunk! HMS Cheshire (Auxiliary Cruiser), 13850 tons
1616 BF 15 Ship sunk! S.S. Matina (Large Tanker), 9384 tons

22 Jan 1940
2002 BF 14 Ship sunk! S.S. J.B. White (Large Cargo), 5638 tons

24 Jan 1940
1655 BE 31 Ship sunk! S.S. Byron D. Benson (Large Merchant), 6084 tons

10 Feb 1940 1241 Patrol results
Crew losses: 0
Ships sunk: 9
Aircraft destroyed: 0
Patrol tonage: 71290 tons

:arrgh!:

[Morts]

How's your last patrol in that IX sonar magnet going? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

better than yours:rotfl:

[vodkavera]

Just want to put some wood on the fire....

As I see it, the II´s & IV´s are the trainingboats......:know:
....and the IX is for the more experienced skippers.:cool:
The IX skippers has the experience to sail to the other side of the ocean and the world.
They are the ones who can sink ships in numbers. :smug:
They are the best of the best!!:rock:


/VV

[Jimbuna]

Just want to put some wood on the fire....

As I see it, the II´s & IV´s are the trainingboats......:know:
....and the IX is for the more experienced skippers.:cool:
The IX skippers has the experience to sail to the other side of the ocean and the world.
They are the ones who can sink ships in numbers. :smug:
They are the best of the best!!:rock:


/VV

PRECISELY :rock:

[Khourieat]

Just want to put some wood on the fire....

As I see it, the II´s & IV´s are the trainingboats......:know:
....and the IX is for the more experienced skippers.:cool:
The IX skippers has the experience to sail to the other side of the ocean and the world.
They are the ones who can sink ships in numbers. :smug:
They are the best of the best!!:rock:


/VV

My last patrol with my VIIB I sank 13 ships, I think :P 52k tons, only once did I not have a one torpedo kill.

Best patrol I ever had, now if only I had returned to the correct port...:nope:

[danurve]

How's your last patrol in that IX sonar magnet going? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

...
Yeah, and about the sonar magnet, deep and slow wins the race. I could be holding iron ore in my boat and still get away at 270m. Lets see that in a pea shooter.

(To be honest, I love the VII, did a few careers with one, but I much prefer the IXC/40)

I wasn't aware the IX could dive that deep, a plus no doubt. I would think since we all run the game with different collection of mods and such specifics may vary, Im confused though and perhaps Im referencing information not exactly concurrent with game mechanics, feel free to alternate a reference but;
Technical information for type IXC/40 ... Max depth:ca. 230 m
(755 feet)

Technical information for type VIIC/41 ... Max depth:ca. 250 m
(820 feet)

http://www.uboat.net/types/index.html

A bit of honesty as well if I may; before I got into carrer mode I played several single missions, selecting various boats etc. figgured this way I know what boat down the road I have a better shot with. Now, this is just my opionion but I found the IX boats a bit sluggish for my taste. Being they carried 8 more fish was intriging but not enough to win me over. Again just they way I want to play the game.
My goal is actually to try and make it far enough with a VII to obtain an XXI. Funny ha ha maybe but it's just a game.
Also I like the way a VII looks, the IX is not as slender IMO. In fairness I suppose if my opinion was in favor of the IX then beauty is in the eye of the .. Kaleun.

[vodkavera]

[/quote]
Best patrol I ever had, now if only I had returned to the correct port...:nope:[/quote]

Experience?
You are not ready for a tye IX boat, herr Kaleun!
Sorry! ;)

/VV

[danurve]

Gezoes; nice patrol, that log from SH3Commander?

[Khourieat]

Best patrol I ever had, now if only I had returned to the correct port...:nope:[/quote]

Experience?
You are not ready for a tye IX boat, herr Kaleun!
Sorry! ;)

/VV[/quote]

It wasn't my fault! Bernard must've been at BdU, I kept getting messages about how my home base was changed to Brest, but Brest wasn't on any of my maps :know:

It's ALL someone elses fault, so, numbers for a VIIB trip aren't so bad!

Plus if I had done my last patrol with a IX I would've been fish food for sure, I, uh...ran the English channel again...with 3 DDs pinging after me (they still missed somehow, it was scary though) :arrgh!:

Plus the 2nd Flotila STILL won't take me :damn:

[danurve]

vodkavera; Im trying to understand your logic.
Let me get this straight, if I sink an equal amount of shipping to 14 of an IX's fish & less time on patrol, then return to port and start a new patrol before an IX returns to port, and hence start sinking more tonnage, regardless if I hit a closer port to resupply or not, then Im still not as good as the skippers who go to oceans around the world on longer patrols.
Gottcha!
Just making sure...
ps. whats a type IV?
too much vodka on those long patrols for you I suspect :rotfl:

[Ducimus]

wasn't aware the IX could dive that deep, a plus no doubt. I would think since we all run the game with different collection of mods and such specifics may vary, Im confused though and perhaps Im referencing information not exactly concurrent with game mechanics, feel free to alternate a reference but;
Technical information for type IXC/40 ... Max depth:ca. 230 m
(755 feet)

Technical information for type VIIC/41 ... Max depth:ca. 250 m
(820 feet)

http://www.uboat.net/types/index.html


From accounts ive read, boats could acutally dive deeper then what uboat.net says. The same is true for just about any submarine really. From accounts to what uboat.net says, i think the truth is somewhere in between. Simply put, water pressure fatigues a hull. A submarine which was capable of diving to say 280 meters, may not be able to reach that depth in a couple years hence.

I think there's an account out there somewhere of a submarine which went into an out of control dive and went ALOT deeper then anyone would ever have attempted. When they got control of the boat, surfaced, and got it back to port, my understanding was that the pressure hull was so stressed, that the boat had to be scrapped.

[Ducimus]

Oh since the 7 vs 9 debate has come up (7 of 9? :hmm: treky i am not, but i couldnt resist), this old post of mine is probalby worth reposting here:

i think one of the biggest draw's to type9's isn't just the boat by itself. I mean, yea sure, the fuel and torpedo's are big perks. and granted The view from the bridge might make you feel like your in command of a submersable destroyer or something, but i dont think thats it.

I think the biggest draw is in just how campaign games seem to be played out, as compared to a campaign in a type7.

You know what i REALLY dislike about type7's? Absotlutely nothing.

Infact, i love the way they look, i love their handling, i auctally enjoy having to not worry about all those externally stored torpedo's, and only 1 aft tube to worry about. Hence, not always looking for an opportunity to use my aft before my bow torpedos. I like not having to worry about that.

But all that said, i hate using them in campaign games. Nothing is as boring to me as sitting in some grid in the middle of the atlantic, waiting for a convoy to appear. A patrol grid in a type7 is just a formality. Theres really nothing special about a grid in a type7. You go there, you do your 24 hours, and then you move on. Yes, you do the same thing in a type9, however, the getting to the grid in itself is an accomplishment.

A grid in a type9 game, represents an entirely different theater of the war. If you get a CA grid, you know your going to the US East coast. If you get a ED grid, you know your going to the carribean. If you get a ES or ET grid you know your going to freetown, and the areas around the equator. If you get a GR grid, you have my sympathies, but you know your going to capetown an the south atlantic. So although you get a grid, and move on just like a type7 game, the grid itself represents a tangible objective because it represents an entirely new theater in the conflict.

So you have to get there, learn and work the area, and get back. Often patrolling in your theater of operations, you have smaller, more clear cut defnable objectives. Your more apt to find landmarks of one sort or another that create chokepoints or whatnot, that you can clearly see, "now theres an area i should check out". In a type7 career game, it just doesnt feel like that to me. Patrolling the A grids, to me sucks. Just this big body of water, and a whole lot of guesswork, with no destination, or clearly defined objective.

On top of all that, the passage of time to advance the games timeline in a type7 game is acutally longer then in a type9. To me passage of time, advancing later into the war creates a feeling of progression in the game. Now You can play a patrol for a 3 hours a night for 2 or 3 days, and have only advanced the gameclock by a couple of weeks. 30 days at best in a type7. In a type9, ive advanced the gameclock in the same amount of real life time, by about 2 or 3 months.

[danurve]

Khourieat; Orders? Resupply at Bergan and go through the Sappa flow channel :o

[Khourieat]

Khourieat; Orders? Resupply at Bergan and go through the Sappa flow channel :o

But!! But!!! I'm finally in Brest now :damn: you want me to cross the English channel AND the Scappa Flow channel?? That's madness!! Why...it's just plain crazy!

It's just...insane...and...ok, I'll do it :up:

Only on a VIIB though, I'd stick out like a sore thumb otherwise.

<~~~ Not ACTUALLY going to do that.

[Gezoes]

Gezoes; nice patrol, that log from SH3Commander?
Thanks m8, and yep :up:

I only added the return to port date and some handy returns. Don't get why the two pyro's didn't get named though, might be because I started SH3GWX up with the .exe instead of via SH3Commander? I seem to remember doing that sometimes... oh well.

The Western approaches proved fine hunting grounds. I'm off on my forth IX patrol now, to the EJ quadrant, so I guess that's the channel again! :huh: Fortunately it's not 1942 or further.

The VII is great, but I miss a lot LOL. I need the eels :smug:

If you see a black, rusty IXB rushing towards a convoy out there, it could be U-123 trying to dive because it's Kaleun knows it can get under in, lord behold, 35 seconds :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

Khourieat; Orders? Resupply at Bergan and go through the Sappa flow channel :o

He forgot that one small word...................'surfaced' :rotfl:

[Gezoes]

Summary
Oberleutnant z. S. Jup Fliegerhosen and U-123 surrendered to the Allies on 28FEB40. Jup Fliegerhosen was sent to a POW camp in Scotland where he spent the rest of the war. Jup Fliegerhosen died on 3 June 2000.

Ah crap! Good thing I surfaced and decided to click a certain link in SH3 Commander :hmm:
I got old :huh:! And at least half the crew survived :up:

U-123 was surrounded entering the channel on patrol 4 by no less than 6 DD's and some Elco's. She blew ballast after two hours of heavy bombardment and about 16 casualties. What worked in 1939 was a lucky shot, lesson learned hehe. Shame about the renown though.

Ofcourse this loss will have to be replaced :stare:

I'm thinking, France is invaded, and Fliegerhosen had a son :smug:

[Eagle Eye]

Face it, IX's are for us guys that like to be known to last for a long time. :dead: yaaaawn

VII's are known for their small size, limited firepower and range. Realy now, ..
Well lets see currently on patrol in AN 58-59, & 72-73 my poor ill-equiped VIIB has polished off 2 C2's, 2 C3's, foul weather & seas on the heavy side. Not to mention a torpedo boat 88`ed after I snuck into the shallows so I could load externals, all the while dodging 6 spitfires and evading 2 DD's. 6 steamers left, probably 2/3 fuel reserve.

How's your last patrol in that IX sonar magnet going? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Quite well, I actually got to see the Bismarck in BE53 and took out out the King George the V, Aftr that I sailed down to my patrol grid off the coast of Africa
attacked two convoys in route claiming a pair of C3's a whale factory ship, and a pair of tramp steamers sailing alone so far. I have pictures of the battle I'll post when I get back from Denver this week.

But I like the type 7 I want to try a 7 in the med for my next career

[Eagle Eye]

I've attacked plenty of convoys in my IXB, I havent had any major problems yet. I can't wait to upgrade to IXC and go visit the East Coast US.

[Mush Martin]

IX's are just the fightinest boats of the bunch in the german inventory.
:arrgh!:

[danurve]

http://huntny.us/images/VII_IX.gif

[Jusa_Finn]

Nice gif. Well done, though I prefer IX.

[andy_311]

IX's are just the fightinest boats of the bunch in the german inventory.
:arrgh!:

Couldn't agree more:rock:

[Captain Norman]

New York, New York can a Type VII sail there, NO. :rotfl: :rotfl:
What are u talking about U-boat captains got their Type VII's all the way to the Caribbean by carefully managing fuel and battery reserves, ive gotten to New York City and back to St. Nazaire in my Type VII.

[azn_132]

New York, New York can a Type VII sail there, NO. :rotfl: :rotfl:
What are u talking about U-boat captains got their Type VII's all the way to the Caribbean by carefully managing fuel and battery reserves, ive gotten to New York City and back to St. Nazaire in my Type VII.

Like goin a kt only? And look for milkcows on the way? Or u use the unlimted fuel?

[Captain Norman]

No unlimited fuel, serious fuel conservation and milch cows like the real U-boat captians did in a Type VII

[Ducimus]

Anyone else besdies me enjoy this sort of rivalry? hehhehe its fun.


BTW, im getting back in the saddle with another IXD2. Im a glutton for punishment. :arrgh!: This time, ... war's end baby.. war's end! :yep:

[Rykaird]

Anyone else besdies me enjoy this sort of rivalry? hehhehe its fun.


BTW, im getting back in the saddle with another IXD2. Im a glutton for punishment. :arrgh!: This time, ... war's end baby.. war's end! :yep:

I have a type IXB currently, can't imagine going back to the VIIB. Of course, it's still early war for me, but I'm finding each patrol to be a lot more productive. I always had fuel issues in the VIIB - that was more of an issue for me than fish shortages. By the time I got from Wilhelmshaven to AM52 and then BF13, I was already starting to sweat about fuel. I got a patrol down by Spain in late 1939 and I took the Channel as a short cut to save fuel - and damn near got everyone croaked. Never again.

With the IX, if I've got to flog her at flank to make an intercept point at night in heavy seas I just do it. Maybe I'll change my mind as the war progresses and I start getting pinged a lot more.

For you IX folks, do you recommend I skip the IXC and save up the renown for the D2? Or is the IXC a better choice?

[azn_132]

Anyone else besdies me enjoy this sort of rivalry? hehhehe its fun.


BTW, im getting back in the saddle with another IXD2. Im a glutton for punishment. :arrgh!: This time, ... war's end baby.. war's end! :yep:

I have a type IXB currently, can't imagine going back to the VIIB. Of course, it's still early war for me, but I'm finding each patrol to be a lot more productive. I always had fuel issues in the VIIB - that was more of an issue for me than fish shortages. By the time I got from Wilhelmshaven to AM52 and then BF13, I was already starting to sweat about fuel. I got a patrol down by Spain in late 1939 and I took the Channel as a short cut to save fuel - and damn near got everyone croaked. Never again.

With the IX, if I've got to flog her at flank to make an intercept point at night in heavy seas I just do it. Maybe I'll change my mind as the war progresses and I start getting pinged a lot more.

For you IX folks, do you recommend I skip the IXC and save up the renown for the D2? Or is the IXC a better choice?

I would go for the D2 but if u want to upgrade ur boat cuz IXB is gettin old for u then the IXC is for u then. Sry dont know how to explain it right.

[Ducimus]

As difficulty goes when you consider ASW (aircraft, depth charges, DD's.. basically everything that exists thats out to kill you) , type9's are harder then type7's. Type 9D2's are harder still.

I woudlnt recommend an IXD2 unless you want to have a harder time of things, really know what your doing and how to react under various situations, OR are intent on going to the south atlantic and indian ocean. If you have no intention of going round the cape of good hope, or the indian ocean, i wouldn't get an IXD2. That said, im bringing my boat into the gulf of mexico :arrgh!:

edit:
IXB vs IXC
Personnaly, id get an IXC because fuel will become an issue later on when you hit more distant patrol grids. An IXC has more fuel then a IXB.

[Jimbuna]

Go for an IXD2 and you are sorted for upgrades as they become available to the wars end :yep: ...the addittional range is an added bonus if you need to open her up on the surface to achieve an advantageous position over a convoy :arrgh!:

[stabiz]

Anyone else besdies me enjoy this sort of rivalry? hehhehe its fun.


BTW, im getting back in the saddle with another IXD2. Im a glutton for punishment. :arrgh!: This time, ... war's end baby.. war's end! :yep:

I think its fun too, everybody FEEL for their boats, which is kinda nice and kinda wierd. The real Kaleuns probably bantered about this in port too.

Bottom line: The boats are very different, and each have their strong points and weak points, and people are different too.

[Gezoes]

I've gone over to the dark side and continued the Med-career I started up, yes, with a VIIC. I still miss the torpedoes. And, standing on the bridge, it feels like I only have a bridge and aft :rotfl: I can barely see the bow hehe, that's weird!!

However, it feels quite right for the Med. Although I'm sure (feb 1942) I'll never make it to a XXI where renown is concerned, I'll stick with my VIIC. At least until Italy collapses and the transfer out of the Med, I have to do Gibraltar ;)

So, until I'm dead, U-97-VIIC in the med it is. One thing though, I can't wait for my quad flak or something! This peashooter I have now is not comforting :huh:

[Ducimus]

Memory lane alert - The post that, for me, started it all:

I think it was This post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=84628

That started me on a type9 kick that has lasted one and a half years. No wonder im getting jaded on this game. Cripes, my last patrol in current career game was around 125 days at sea. (log not posted). Maybe i should retire to the med, ive tried that before, but i think it was early war that was boring me.

[Kpt. Kozloff]

A tiny hint,
if you stick to your VIIb right through entire campaign and upgrade your engines, in good weather conditions it will fly up to 21kts!!! True, it's the fastest ride around.
:arrgh!:

[Castout]

A tiny hint,
if you stick to your VIIb right through entire campaign and upgrade your engines, in good weather conditions it will fly up to 21kts!!! True, it's the fastest ride around.
:arrgh!:

Well i upgraded to VIIC believing it dives deeper and faster. With MAN(2nd) upgraded engine it's surely fast but sooo very thirsty on :nope: fuel. It cuts down my patrol time by a third:damn:. In a few patrols i'm forced to return the base not because the torp are expended but because fuel is depleting.

Now i'm considering upgrading to type IX. Perhaps somebody want to convert me?:rotfl:

[Ducimus]

I know im talking to myself, but almost 300 days at sea in just 3 patrols for my U-178 career. I think im gonna take a break from type 9's for a little while. Maybe its time for that mediterranean vacation ive been dreaming of :88)

[danlisa]

Maybe its time for that mediterranean vacation ive been dreaming of :88)

Ummm, you've been there and done that. IIRC it lasted 2 weeks.;)

[Dowly]

Maybe its time for that mediterranean vacation ive been dreaming of :88)
Ummm, you've been there and done that. IIRC it lasted 2 weeks.;)

:rotfl::rotfl:

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Maybe its time for that mediterranean vacation ive been dreaming of :88)

Ummm, you've been there and done that. IIRC it lasted 2 weeks.;)



C'mon dan the Med is really nice. Especially around Greece. Ahhhh... that homemade "raki"... and bombs/shells flying around you... lovely.
:|\\

[Dowly]

And be sure to visit Valletta! Great women, great booze, the welcoming party isnt very polite but I´m sure you can persuade them to let you in with a few T I´s. :up:

[Jimbuna]

In actual fact if you'd like to undergo a career that was realistic yet short/ish why not try the type XX1 :hmm: :up:

[Ducimus]

In actual fact if you'd like to undergo a career that was realistic yet short/ish why not try the type XX1 :hmm: :up:

For some reason, i'd sooner use the boat that never was (type 7c/42) then the XXI. :roll:

No, i think im serious this time, it's time for a break. I mean, the other day i realized that ive been playing SH3 - essentually the same way, for a year and a half now. Thats a year and a half of patrolling west and SE of freetown, us east coast, carribean, and a few bits in the south alantic in predominatly a 9c. And that's all ive done in sh3 for the last year and a half.

[Castout]

For some reason, i'd sooner use the boat that never was (type 7c/42) then the XXI. :roll:

No, i think im serious this time, it's time for a break. I mean, the other day i realized that ive been playing SH3 - essentually the same way, for a year and a half now. Thats a year and a half of patrolling west and SE of freetown, us east coast, carribean, and a few bits in the south alantic in predominatly a 9c. And that's all ive done in sh3 for the last year and a half.

From the sound of it. You seem to have uneventful career. Did you bag a lot of tonnage?
One and a half year in type IX exclusively..WOW that's some determination:lol:

[Ducimus]

From the sound of it. You seem to have uneventful career. Did you bag a lot of tonnage?

I never brag about tonnage. It's immaterial to me really. You can check the patrol logs ive posted in my sig if you want. I usually play at 91 to 94% realism. I've had my fair share of close shaves as well. My last career game (u-178) i found out first hand what a clear/calm day and an GWX's AI_visual settings can do. Long story short, i had one T-5 onboard and i had to make use of it :88)

[Castout]

I never brag about tonnage. It's immaterial to me really. You can check the patrol logs ive posted in my sig if you want. I usually play at 91 to 94% realism. I've had my fair share of close shaves as well

Wow more than 80,000 tons in a single patrol:o.

I think i might switch to a type IX pretty soon. Is it more difficult to find targets with type IX operating in the far flung high seas? I get bored easily when i can't find targets in a few days. Currently a diehard fans of VIIB/C in the game:).

[Ducimus]

Is it more difficult to find targets with type IX operating in the far flung high seas?

Only if you don't know where to look :88)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103731

[XXi]

Well. my recent patrol in the Caribbean while navigating IXD2 got me 93k BRT. And I still, after some 40 days of cruising in the area, managed to sail back to Europe with 10knots :D

IXD2 is VERY nice if you know how to handle it though. First - they are available since 1942 which means the ASW is rather serious. Therefore, I never engage in the European waters - single merchants are the only exception.
There are good hunting areas neer Freetown and generally near Africa. Not that strong ASW and many targets. Additionally, IXD2 has the range - if you cannot engage a convoy at conditions that favor you, all you need to do is to wait - sooner or later you`ll find a perfect target.
Even the very single merchants can boost the tonnage easily :D
IXD2 are great for those madmen who enjoy extreme long-range patrols. So far, my longest patrol lasted for 156 days and included some succesfull engagements near Mogadishu and south of Ceylon :D
Any VII skipper been there ? ;)

Let`s face it: VII are meant to beat the convoys in the Atlantic, IX type boats ( especially C and D, later in the war ) are not meant for this unless you know how to do it.

PS strange..... I got engaged by ASW for few times and managed to escape... rough weather and Tauschkoerper with some tactics can do wonders.

[Tobus]

I think I will try my hand at a IXb soon. I'm still a dedicated VIIb/c jock, but lets try it. If I fail miserably with tactics I like and work with my VII, I can always return to an earlier save before the boat-switch. As far as this game goes, I love the VII in all aspects. In the old days I played Aces of the Deep and went to the IX asap, but here the VII just keeps me interested.

[Tobus]

I think I will try my hand at a IXb soon. I'm still a dedicated VIIb/c jock, but lets try it. If I fail miserably with tactics I like and work with my VII, I can always return to an earlier save before the boat-switch. As far as this game goes, I love the VII in all aspects. In the old days I played Aces of the Deep and went to the IX asap, but here the VII just keeps me interested.

Tried it as I might ... I plainly suck in a IX. I just can't take the risks and get rewarded for them that I do with the VII. Reverting to the VII, aahhhhh...

[Kpt. Kozloff]

[Reverting to the VII, aahhhhh...
[/QUOTE]


Oh yes, VIIb all the way and into the Med! Nice vacation in the sun, lot's of flies though... airplanes i mean...
;)

[Jimbuna]

I think I will try my hand at a IXb soon. I'm still a dedicated VIIb/c jock, but lets try it. If I fail miserably with tactics I like and work with my VII, I can always return to an earlier save before the boat-switch. As far as this game goes, I love the VII in all aspects. In the old days I played Aces of the Deep and went to the IX asap, but here the VII just keeps me interested.

Tried it as I might ... I plainly suck in a IX. I just can't take the risks and get rewarded for them that I do with the VII. Reverting to the VII, aahhhhh...

At least you gave it a go matey :yep: ..........AND FAILED :oops: .....NOW GET BACK TO THE GALLEY AND PEEL THOSE SPUDS :arrgh!:
:rotfl:

[Iron Budokan]

So far, my longest patrol lasted for 156 days and included some succesfull engagements near Mogadishu and south of Ceylon :D




Wow, 156 Days! :o

[Crazy Ian]

I have to admit, the IXD2 is just too damn big. I never realized how big they really are until one day.. a long time ago, i got blasted to the surface and subsquently rammed.


*Adopts best Alec Guinness voice* "Thats no moon... thats a space station." :D

I'll have to give a career a go with one of those once I get this Grey Wolves installed. COME ON 56K!

[Kpt. Kozloff]

[quote=Ducimus]I have to admit, the IXD2 is just too damn big. I never realized how big they really are until one day.. a long time ago, i got blasted to the surface and subsquently rammed.


*Adopts best Alec Guinness voice* "Thats no moon... thats a space station." :D


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Nice one!:up:

[Rykaird]

*Adopts best Alec Guinness voice* "Thats no moon... thats a space station." :D

Chief Brody: "I think we're going to need a bigger boat!"

Long pause . . .

"Well, jeez, not THAT big."

[Tobus]

At least you gave it a go matey :yep: ..........AND FAILED :oops: .....NOW GET BACK TO THE GALLEY AND PEEL THOSE SPUDS :arrgh!:
:rotfl:

No spud-peeling for me, I just had a rather interresting date with 2(!) convoys, inbound and outbound north of Ireland, with me in the middle. Bagged me a troop, 2 whalers and 2 large cargo and the undivided attention of 5 escorts ... AND LIVED TO TELL ABOUT IT.

Put that in your type IX and smoke it!:arrgh!:

[Spray]

Ploughing along with my type IXB I hit 3 taskforces sunk 2BB's one DD went on and pilliaged at port and had 1 torpedo spare. How much torpedoes does the IIB and IIC have again? Was it somewhere around 7? Cool you can do 3 round trips with all the torpedoes I have in my sub EG a IXB kapitan can sink 3 times more tonnage then a type 7 captain.

[danurve]

This thread is still alive? Good lord.

http://huntny.us/images/VII_IX.gif

I'm just happy as a coyote that found a fresh gut pile that I finally made it into `41.

[Kpt. Kozloff]

This thread is still alive? Good lord.

http://huntny.us/images/VII_IX.gif

I'm just happy as a coyote that found a fresh gut pile that I finally made it into `41.


You know why IX skippers are so grumpy?
It's all the money they spend. No, not like renown but on a 2nd. computer.
One for the game, and the other to browse the forum while waiting for their IX to dive. :rotfl:



The "beef" between IX'ers and VII's is quite up to date! :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

At least you gave it a go matey :yep: ..........AND FAILED :oops: .....NOW GET BACK TO THE GALLEY AND PEEL THOSE SPUDS :arrgh!:
:rotfl:

No spud-peeling for me, I just had a rather interresting date with 2(!) convoys, inbound and outbound north of Ireland, with me in the middle. Bagged me a troop, 2 whalers and 2 large cargo and the undivided attention of 5 escorts ... AND LIVED TO TELL ABOUT IT.

Put that in your type IX and smoke it!:arrgh!:

Got a match :|\\

[Tobus]

Ploughing along with my type IXB I hit 3 taskforces sunk 2BB's one DD went on and pilliaged at port and had 1 torpedo spare. How much torpedoes does the IIB and IIC have again? Was it somewhere around 7? Cool you can do 3 round trips with all the torpedoes I have in my sub EG a IXB kapitan can sink 3 times more tonnage then a type 7 captain.

Yes, very true. But the crew in the II's and VII's become way more experienced due to the experience-earning mechanism in SH3.

I definately think the IX is better in range, payload and therefor overall abillities. But what it so desperately needs is acceleration, turningspeed and divingspeed.

It then comes down to your personal playingstyle. If you are patient prowler, then the IX may well be your boat. But if you are a gung-ho convoy-raider with a semi-deathwish (like myself), than nothing beats a VII (n my humble opinion offcourse).

[Morts]

a IXB kapitan can sink 3 times more tonnage then a type 7 captain.
SOOOOOO not true

[Morts]

But if you are a gung-ho convoy-raider with a semi-deathwish (like myself), than nothing beats a VII (n my humble opinion offcourse).
Hey you dont need to be a gung ho type to sail in the VII:huh:

[Khourieat]

I thought I'd be a VIIB person, I liked the dive time, the speed, it worked for me.

I did my first patrol with a IX, got damaged to heck because of it's slowness (1024x TC while going to/from patrol area and ran into warships, got pounded before I could dive, but survived), but I'll be damned if the thing isn't a lucky charm or something...my first patrol, ran into a 14 ship convoy, with a SINGLE V&W escort...took out the escort with gusto, then, well, then it was just like shooting fish in a barrel.

Sadly 4 of those puppies were neutral, but hey, 11 ships in a span of about 30 game hours isn't bad...

I'm somewhere in 1941, and this was somewhere west of England, not too west :arrgh!: