Whats your best evasion move?

[Mush Martin]

Hi guys the forums are about sharing knowledge and Ive seen quite a few
noob questions about what to do tactically so I thought we might
share a tactic or two starting with evasion while submerged after a torpedo
hit alerting the escorts.


For me evasion always begins with approach, choosing the right position
both for the shot and to have enough time and space to evade.
if they have you I like to run towards them aimed about 30 degrees off
one side or the other, when we close to the moment in the sonar window

I flank ahead towards the target full left rudder full down angle for the bottom
as the shooting goes off I get about halfway through the knuckle and drop a decoy into it. simultaneous to ordering silent and heading back towards
the reciprocal course to the destroyers approach.
causing me and the escort to gain seperation distance quickly

the noisemaker and silent running both happening at the end of the sonar
attack cause a break in passive contact with the escort while your in his baffles

a triple move..
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH3Img13-2-2007_22.jpg

anybody else.

MM:|\\

[Finback]

That's about perfect in my opinion Mush! Another one I use just for going deep while in the convoy is head for the merchants. The escorts have to manuever so as not to ram them and it gives me enough time to get in the cellar.

After that, evasion gets more complicated. Especially if one of your excellent River Class mods are up there ;) .

Cheers!!!

[USS Sea Tiger]

hehhhe, well, what I really do,

try to turn 90 degrees from the dds path at slow, then when he is nearly on me, full speed, decoy launch, turn hard right/left (to where the dd came from ) 90 another decoy in the knuckle, then silent run at 25 to 50 mt until well clear!

a little prayer to the god of electrons too would not hurt

[gabeeg]

My tactics change abit with the year in which I am fighting...my favorite and probably most successful is to get ahead of the convoy and position myself submerged at periscope depth (peri down) between the first and second rows of the oncoming convoy. When they are just about on my I raise my scope and launch all forward tubes setting the torpedos for slow for close targets and medium or fast for further targets...then I launch the bow tubes set to fast. I then go all ahead slow, lower the scope and dive to 100+meters while steering into and ahead of the convoy, go silent and let the convoy slowly pass over me as I head the same direction. About the time the last ship has passed I am usually deep and then I use my hydrophone to locate the escorts and plot the most logical escape. Then considering location and remaining torpedos I will consider racing ahead and doing it all over again.

[Mush Martin]

my 2nd favorite move is to run the attack attack
in reverse and draw the escort group on a turn
away angle retreating from their axis of advance
then when I get to the sonar window moment

I again flank ahead and reverse turn with a depth
change downwards and run at high speed along
or more correctly outside of and parralell to
their axis of advance

putting them behind me in a hurry
with a very hard shake on multiple
bogey's

[tycho102]

Yeah, the best evasion maneuver is to not get detected in the first place. :lol:

After that, I just dive deep and go from there. If the enemy is right on top of me and obviously has a really good fix, I will nail the engines and make a turn at the last second. Always heading away from other escorts, and the convoy if possible. Depending on how far away the other escorts are and whether I'm in the closest one's baffles, I will keep full power for awhile, reducing it to half and finally 2kts. I don't really make depth changes unless it's deeper.

The super-destroyers that are running in "god mode" obviously get around anything you can do. In this case, a save reload is warranted.

[Mush Martin]

The super-destroyers that are running in "god mode" obviously get around anything you can do. In this case, a save reload is warranted.
sounds like you got a case of the heebee jeebees River Class or Black Swan?

[Brag]

Mush's tactics and everyone else's so far are excellent. Depending on weather, position of escorts, a slow, quiet dive either into the convoy or away has worked for me in avoiding the escorts all together. But generally I expect the escorts to be on top of me within three minutes after launching torpedoes. Except when going flank to avoid depth charges, I always have 5-7 degrees port or starboard rudder. This seems to throw off the escorts and make them drop the DCs slightly off. With each pass they wasserbomb a bit further away.

[Sailor Steve]

I seem to do a lot of praying.



Actually, I go deep and silent. When the enemy is over me I go to flank, down 30-50 meters and turn like crazy. After the bombs have done their thing I go back to silent.


And pray.

[Finback]

I seem to do a lot of praying.



Actually, I go deep and silent. When the enemy is over me I go to flank, down 30-50 meters and turn like crazy. After the bombs have done their thing I go back to silent.


And pray.

Do you have any documentation that these prayers help?

:hmm:

[Sailor Steve]

:lol:

Well, they certainly make me feel better. And give me someone else to blame when I die.

Besides Bernard, of course.

[Mush Martin]

I seem to do a lot of praying.



Actually, I go deep and silent. When the enemy is over me I go to flank, down 30-50 meters and turn like crazy. After the bombs have done their thing I go back to silent.


And pray.

Better to go silent just before the last two DC's

[ReallyDedPoet]

deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep:up:

[melnibonian]

Deep really deep and loads or prayers;) :yep:

[Abd_von_Mumit]

My best evasion is to go deep and make some bets with my crew. If I loose, no problem, if I win, all their money earned in that patrol is mine. :)

Next trick I started to use recently is to attack when surfaced in heavy rain or fog that we all have plenty of them. Evading in such weather is a piece of cake - you just sail away and wait for your torpedoes to be reloaded. Risky, yes, but it's really not as hard as it could seem to be.

[Corsair]

It's sometimes easier to evade on surface than submerged in bad visibility conditions, as long as escorts don't have radars... If escorts are slow movers like Flowers, you can also outrun them at flank speed.

[ReallyDedPoet]

forgot to mention: no farting signs are posted thoughout:up:

[STEED]

Whats your best evasion move?

Stay at home and never leave port. :rotfl: :rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Whats your best evasion move?

Stay at home and never leave port. :rotfl: :rotfl:

A man after my own heart!!! OK, off to patrol #2:o for me!

[Morts]

the best evasion move ?
staying the H away from DD's:rotfl:

[emtmedic005]

A good defense is a good offense.
If your approaching a convoy or spot a DD before they notice u, then i get into a good firing position, havingthem in my sights UZO. When they notice me, and they r close engough for a good shot, i crash dive and before i go down i fire off a fish, (when the DD is in a fast attack move and comming right at me).
I dive down to 40m and shut off the engines (not silent running) then once the engines are off i dive even more usually to 80-90 m. If i have decoys, then a deploy them once i shut my engines offs and i turn to port maybe 10-15 degrees for about 4 minutes then i even them out. thats if your in deep water. If your in Shallows, i usually say a hail mary and accept that im going to sink. If its late in the war and u r in deep water they will probably find u and sink you. Hope this stuff helps. This might work for u, i know it works for me.

[Heibges]

I go by the Uboat Commanders Handbook, which lays it out step by step.

If I am on the surface for a nighttime surface attack, I immediately turn at high speed and set a course 75° of the convoys course, so I don't get seperated from the convoy more than I need to.

This of course depends on the postion of the escorts.

For a submerged attack, I stay at PD until I determine if the escorts have seen me or not.

If they haven't I try to slip away at Silent Running at PD, keeping a close eye on the escorts through the periscope.

If I see they have spotted my I immediately dive to 150 meters at Flank Speed.

I again try to stay 75° off the base convoy course, so I don't lose too much ground.

If the escorts are persistant I will go to 90°, and if they are really persistant go to 120° from the base course.

After losing the escorts, I move about 10k from the convoy, surface, and begin the overhaul maneuver again.

[Mush Martin]

My third best evasion move is to duck into the den and close the door
and boot up SH3 :|\\

[azn_132]

My third best evasion move is to duck into the den and close the door
and boot up SH3 :|\\

U actually do that?

[Mush Martin]

My third best evasion move is to duck into the den and close the door
and boot up SH3 :|\\
U actually do that?

youre not married yet i guess

[theluckyone17]

youre not married yet i guessMy wife moved my computer out to the living room... 'course, she's nice enough to let me play SH3 still. The move was so that we could still be together in the same room :smug:

[Mush Martin]

youre not married yet i guessMy wife moved my computer out to the living room... 'course, she's nice enough to let me play SH3 still. The move was so that we could still be together in the same room :smug:

When Im at comp in den and shes at tv we are facing
each other my wife is totally supportive of my playing
because whenever she askes me to do something
I hit pause and willingly go and do it.
because of that approach she goes out
of her way now not to interrupt.

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Dont get found. :roll:

[Morts]

Dont get found. :roll:
that has got to be the BEST evasion move EVER !:rotfl:

[Slick Rick]

My third best evasion move is to duck into the den and close the door
and boot up SH3 :|\\
U actually do that?

youre not married yet i guess ROTFL.......that is superb.....nothing need be added here........:lol: :lol:

[Lovro]

How bout surfacing and yelling to nearest DD from the coning tower "In the middle of the atlantic submarine hunts YOU!!11" and than deckgunning the bastard.

ps. I dont recomend this

[Mush Martin]

How bout surfacing and yelling to nearest DD from the coning tower "In the middle of the atlantic submarine hunts YOU!!11" and than deckgunning the bastard.

ps. I dont recomend this

Subtle:|\\

[d@rk51d3]

Set to silent running, put the sonarman to bed and pretend nobody's home.

[Ducimus]

I have no best moves. :88)

[Madox58]

Well, since I'm STILL on my 1st Patrol in GWX,
and STILL in the Kiel Canal,
My best move is to pull the brews from under
my rack and enjoy the sites!
:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Mush Martin]

I have no best moves. :88)

We new that as you appear on mp screenshots thread
:rotfl:
LOL

:|\\MM

[Ducimus]

I have no best moves. :88)

We new that as you appear on mp screenshots thread
:rotfl:
LOL

:|\\MM

Multi player screenshots thread? Ive never played SH3 Multiplayer.

[DaMaGe007]

I release Bernard in a Zodiac and head for the bottom :)

[Mush Martin]

I have no best moves. :88)
We new that as you appear on mp screenshots thread
:rotfl:
LOL

:|\\MM
Multi player screenshots thread? Ive never played SH3 Multiplayer.

ducimus must be the ancient latin for tough to razz