Waterworld

[Onkel Neal]

Watching Waterworld, the sorta daffy Kevin Costner flick. Aside from being Mad Max on the ocean, it has its moments. First, Jeanne Triplehorn's magnificent... well, you know. But mainly, that boat Costner sails just rocks. It's got some kind of windmill generator, spring loaded sails, bouncy nets, ropes stationed strategically so Costner can swing and zoom to just about any place he wants, kite sails, winches, pulleys, some kind of motorcycle helm...puts Batman to shame. I tell yas, I can watch it just to enjoy all the running, jumping, and sail rigging action.

Coolest shot, the underwater scene with the sunken city, and the nuke sub nose down in the skyscraper. One day I'm going to commission an artist paint that.


I love that trimaran. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterworld)
The Trimaran was made by Jeanneau Advanced Technologies (JAT) from the Vendee in France. Two identical models were produced to a design by Marc Van Peteghem and Vincent Lauriot-Prévost. The design is based on a replica of Florence Arthaud's "Pierre 1er", that was later renamed by Steve Fossett as "Lakota" and captured many world sailing records. Maximum speed was around 33 knots.

[Onkel Neal]

Searched on the boat and this guy sums it up pretty well:
The WaterWorld yacht is a dream, a fantasy for the eyes (or the producers pockets, depending on how you look at it) The grinder steering system seems a lot of energy to toss the helm down. I'd not like surfing down a 40' wave doing near 30 knots in a big blow and have to pump 20 full cranks into that thing, just to keep from broaching. You'd be well worn out before the storm was, then what?

An AC contender tried a kite for down wind work and gave it up for the more typical arrangement, they may work someday, but don't hold your breath waiting.

The roto sail(?) well . . . sure it's possible and I've even seen a few toys that had something similar, but do the stays go up and down with the telescoping mast or do they just unclip when the roto thingie is spinning around the mast?

How about those really stout spreaders. What was the size of those things 4" around? Could have had better control of weight and windage aloft wouldn't you say? Speaking of weight what type of material could you build a telescoping stick out of, that will yank small planes out of the sky, hold up those monster spreaders and the well caged crows nest?

Do you remember the shots of him cutting a line and a weight (rigged aloft) crashed down towards the deck, dragging him up into the rigging at high speed? How much weight does it take to snatch a 200 pound man off a deck and toss him into the rig like a stone? Try this, get your biggest anchors and fasten them to you main halyard and haul it up your stick while underway and see how your boat handles, then release the halyard and see what type of gear would be needed to stop that weight from punching a big old hole in the deck when it got there.

You could build it, but it would sail like a slug, burdened with all that stuff used to make it transform into the various types of boats and rigs.

But it still looks cool! :arrgh!:

[Shaffer4]

Seems no one understands "Suspension of Disbelief" anymore....

I rather enjoy that movie.... (oddly enough, The Postman as well...) Seems I have a thing for the Post-Appocalyptic Movie genre.. lol That reminds me... I should go pull my Toy version of the Trimaran out of storage and display it somewhere... :arrgh!: (I think I, at one time had all the Water World toys when I was a kid...)

[Camaero]

I can't say I have ever seen this movie. I guess the bad reviews scared me away too much.:ping:

[Torplexed]

Dennis Hopper's finest performance hands down...."If you'll notice the arterial nature of the blood coming from the hole in my head, you can assume that we're all having a real lousy day. " :lol:

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes5/WaterWorld21.jpg

[STEED]

Dreadful film. :down:

[Linton]

Madmax with swimming lessons.

[waste gate]

Still a better film than Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004).

[AVGWarhawk]

After I watched it I did not want to go to the beach anymore. As far as, great entertainment for one to lose themselves for a while. It is great!

[U-533]

Still a better film than Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004).

Well at least the "Sky Captian" hadda better airplane...:up:
:sunny:

[TLAM Strike]

Searched on the boat and this guy sums it up pretty well:
The roto sail(?) well . . . sure it's possible and I've even seen a few toys that had something similar, but do the stays go up and down with the telescoping mast or do they just unclip when the roto thingie is spinning around the mast?

I don't think its really a sail. It looks like a wind turbine (I've seen ones like it in real life and in a CGI sequince in the movie Serenity) that powers a screw.

Still a neat boat.

[bradclark1]

I kinda liked the boat with quad fifties myself.

[Camaero]

Still a better film than Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004).

Well at least the "Sky Captian" hadda better airplane...:up:
:sunny:

Hey, I liked sky captain. Sure it was hokey, but it had a P40 damnit.:rock:

[Iceman]

Waterworld cool...Skycaptain...yea right lol...Universal Studios had a few years back a Waterworld mini type ride or show when I went years back...show wasnt happening atm so didnt see it...but heck ya what a cool boat....what more do ya need...a gorgeous chick -a- dee and some Paper.... lol.

[Mush Martin]

I agree Dennis Hoppers Greatest Role he was absolutely fabulous in his
character, whether you like the film or not.
sublime.

MM

[U-533]

Waterworld cool...Skycaptain...yea right lol...Universal Studios had a few years back a Waterworld mini type ride or show when I went years back...show wasnt happening atm so didnt see it...but heck ya what a cool boat....what more do ya need...a gorgeous chick -a- dee and some Paper.... lol.


:huh: A P40 man... a P40... If you have a boat and a chick and some Paper the P40 Warhawk would round out your list of most manly possessions.:sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

Dreadful film. :down:
:yep:

I agree Dennis Hoppers Greatest Role he was absolutely fabulous in his
character, whether you like the film or not.
sublime.

MM
:p Hopper's greatest role was Flashback! So there!:p

[Bertgang]

What to say?

Maybe not a masterpiece, but a SF movie better than the average one.

I usually like SF on books only, but this one was an exception.

[waste gate]

Dreadful film. :down:
:yep:

I agree Dennis Hoppers Greatest Role he was absolutely fabulous in his
character, whether you like the film or not.
sublime.

MM
:p Hopper's greatest role was Flashback! So there!:p


Hopper's greatest role was as the prophet in Hang'em High.

[Mush Martin]

Dreadful film. :down: :yep:

I agree Dennis Hoppers Greatest Role he was absolutely fabulous in his
character, whether you like the film or not.
sublime.

MM :p Hopper's greatest role was Flashback! So there!:p
no easy rider was better the first time than flashback the second time LOL

"right now Im having deja vu and amnesia at the same time."
Steven Wright.

[Sailor Steve]

no easy rider was better the first time than flashback the second time LOL
My Science Project: Easy Rider AND Flashback rolled into one! "Wow! I just got back from Woodstock! It was even better the second time!"

[tycho102]

It is not my intention to de-rail this thread. I will simply say that I need to go back and watch Hang'em High again.

Waterworld, like the majority of fiction that comes out of Hollywood, takes some single premise and disregards any controlling mechanisms or negative-feedback in response to that premise. Makes the story less complicated and look better on screen because it takes less background information -- Lord knows the Potter movies have taken this to an extreme.

The boat was pretty cool. I thought Dennis Hopper was great, although he does tend to play "comical" villians rather than "sinister" villians. I guess it removes the necessary "comedic sidekick" such that casting directors get a two-fer-one special. Urine is super-saturated, sea water is about 12-15%. Jeanne Triplehorn is hot and I would totally bang her. Liked the gasoline-level guy, hate the brain damage that would occur from such an occupation/perspective. Kevin Coster can't learn an english accent (although he probably did actually learn Sioux), and is no kick-boxer, but he does well enough in the "action role".


As long as the movie isn't taken literally, I give it a 8.5. The "Comedy and Dramatic Setting Oriented" Chick-Flick +1 modifier brings it up to 9.5.

[BobbyZero]

Still a better film than Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004).

Oh, god, Sky captain sucked ass...one of the worst movies EVER. Except, maybe, Beowulf, starring Christopher Lambert.