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mr chris
02-06-07, 02:29 PM
Hi there i was talking online with a very good friend of mine last night when it was pointed out to me how close i live to the German WW2 U-Boat bases of Kiel and Whilemlshaven.
I was thinking of going up to vist one or maybe both at some point over the summer holidays. Well i though to myself well why go on your own. So i was wondering if any members of the community would be intrested in visting the above mention sites at some point over the summer time. We could even turn it into a big Subsim trip and event.
Well anyone intrested just leave a post.:up:

AVGWarhawk
02-06-07, 02:46 PM
I'd be right with you Sir but I'm over here in the States. Would be quite an expense for me:down:. I will make my journey to U-505 in Chicago.

Jimbuna
02-06-07, 02:54 PM
Being a 'pongo' you may need a bodyguard going into a naval base ;)
If your buying the beers then I could give it further consideration :hmm: ....might even let you have a look at my baton/truncheon :rotfl:

johan_d
02-06-07, 02:59 PM
living about 8 hts drive fro Hamburg, where a boat lays.. hmm when?:oops:

mr chris
02-06-07, 03:06 PM
I just wondered how many people might be intrested. If the was a good enough intrested i would look into a bit more. If not i would just plan it and go on a trip up there with maybe my Dad if he was intrested enough.
It would be great if alot of people would be intrested and could make it.
Perhaps we could tempt Neal from his copy of SH4 and get him over to germany.

melnibonian
02-06-07, 03:09 PM
Depending on when you're planning to go and on the finances of the whole trip I might be interested;) :D

johan_d
02-06-07, 03:23 PM
tell me of your plans. I might be interrested, yes wieder ein verdamte Hollander.. but I like to see it also. Somewhere in the summer?

:up:

mr chris
02-06-07, 03:27 PM
Well its very early in the planing so far matey i only got the idea last night. I dont know what time i have off in the summer yet so im just see who would be intrested at the moment just try to gage numbers.
If enough people show an intrest then will look into where to go and what to do and where to stay.
As i said before if anyone has been to any of the German bases before and has any tips it would be great to hear them.

bart
02-06-07, 03:39 PM
Well its very early in the planing so far matey i only got the idea last night. I dont know what time i have off in the summer yet so im just see who would be intrested at the moment just try to gage numbers.
If enough people show an intrest then will look into where to go and what to do and where to stay.
As i said before if anyone has been to any of the German bases before and has any tips it would be great to hear them.

I'd love to go but I'm moving to Australia next month!

If you have a copy of the book "Wolfpack" by Gordon Williamson there's lots of details on u-boat pens and bunkers, and even a short chapter called "Visiting French U-boat Bases and Bunkers Today" and tells you how close you can get to them, directions on how to find them, and which ones you can get inside if you wanted to visit the French bases too. It does cover the German bases and if you're planing a trip I'd highly recommend this book as it gives lots of detail about each base, how it was built etc.

NZsnowman
02-06-07, 03:40 PM
I had plan a trip this summer from New Zealand to look that the U-boats at Kiel, Whilemlshaven and Chicago (U-505) :D . However, I had to cancel my trip due to not been able to get a new passport before my start date for my trip to the USA & Europe :down: . But I am planning to go next summer or in a couple of years, after I save some more money.

Jimbuna
02-06-07, 03:52 PM
I had plan a trip this summer from New Zealand to look that the U-boats at Kiel, Whilemlshaven and Chicago (U-505) :D . However, I had to cancel my trip due to not been able to get a new passport before my start date for my trip to the USA & Europe :down: . But I am planning to go next summer or in a couple of years, after I save some more money.
You must have awful beaurocracy there, in New Zealand. :) Halaf a year to get your passport... Unbelievable.

And as to the trip I'd simply go to climb some mountains... Don't you have enough after this long months spent at sea? Visiting bases?! Sounds like you were seriously ill and wanted to see your home port last time before passing away... Get your lives, Kaleuns! ;)

:roll: WTF!!

mr chris
02-06-07, 03:54 PM
@ Abd_von_Mumit.
if you have nothing of imput to give to this thread Why bother posting here. :nope:

_Seth_
02-06-07, 03:59 PM
Stay on topic, mates. mr chris has asked a simple question, and there is no need to spam this thread.

johan_d
02-06-07, 04:02 PM
I am surely interrested, my buddy too i guess, also recently into SH3..:p so maybe in the summer months we an see. In Hamburg I know, from google, there is a nice u boat to see.. but if you have better ideas, let them come!

We love to drink some beers, good food, and see the mighty!

mr chris
02-06-07, 04:03 PM
We love to drink some beers, good food, and see the mighty!

That sounds like a good way to pitch the trip to poeple:up:

Abd_von_Mumit
02-06-07, 04:09 PM
mr chris, jimbuna, _Seth_ - sorry. :huh: My intention was not to disturb you. It was to be a simple, innocent joke, like all of us post here daily. I've added this: ;)... Now I see it didn't work. If I offended anyone, please take my apologises. I didn't want to.

PS. And I'd seriously go to mountains. :) But that's another story.

PS 2. Deleted my post.

DanCanovas
02-06-07, 04:14 PM
id be interested depending on costs.

johan_d
02-06-07, 04:17 PM
We love to drink some beers, good food, and see the mighty!
That sounds like a good way to pitch the trip to poeple:up:

Well, then we have an understatement here, euh, improvising.. wir verstehen ein ander.. ich traume von beer, bratkartoffln, salat un jager schnitzel... arch.. zwarchwald gefuhl...:smug:

melnibonian
02-06-07, 05:18 PM
mr chris, jimbuna, _Seth_ - sorry. :huh: My intention was not to disturb you. It was to be a simple, innocent joke, like all of us post here daily. I've added this: ;)... Now I see it didn't work. If I offended anyone, please take my apologises. I didn't want to.

PS. And I'd seriously go to mountains. :) But that's another story.

PS 2. Deleted my post.
Don't worry about it mate. I'm sure now that you explained mr Chris and the rest will be fine. It was a joke and that's the end of it. Now let's all go and sink some ships;) :D :up:

_Seth_
02-06-07, 05:30 PM
Don't worry about it mate. I'm sure now that you explained mr Chris and the rest will be fine. It was a joke and that's the end of it. Now let's all go and sink some ships;) :D :up::up::up:

bigboywooly
02-06-07, 05:40 PM
Will have to see what i can manage Chris
Sounds good mate
Be cool to see the bases\uboats

DanCanovas
02-06-07, 05:55 PM
yeh i've been meaning to see them for some time.

_Seth_
02-06-07, 06:14 PM
Edit: I would really like to see U-2540! Thank for good links, mateys!
Is there an excact date for this event?

Gezoes
02-06-07, 07:35 PM
Interesting idea this! However, looking at my wallet, probably only Wilhelmshaven is doable. There's a boat there? Because a sub, beer and you lot sounds good :cool:

And, it would also give me a chance to swing by nearby Bremerhaven given some research. I have some unfinished family business there.

P.S.: XXI U-2540 Wilhelm Bauer is preserved in Germany as a museum, I just don't remember where.

kurtz
02-06-07, 10:29 PM
I'd like to go, I may not have the money or the time 'though.

Jimbuna
02-07-07, 05:44 AM
mr chris, jimbuna, _Seth_ - sorry. :huh: My intention was not to disturb you. It was to be a simple, innocent joke, like all of us post here daily. I've added this: ;)... Now I see it didn't work. If I offended anyone, please take my apologises. I didn't want to.

PS. And I'd seriously go to mountains. :) But that's another story.

PS 2. Deleted my post.

Fair dinkum :arrgh!: :up:

Jimbuna
02-07-07, 05:50 AM
Interesting idea this! However, looking at my wallet, probably only Wilhelmshaven is doable. There's a boat there? Because a sub, beer and you lot sounds good :cool:

And, it would also give me a chance to swing by nearby Bremerhaven given some research. I have some unfinished family business there.

P.S.: XXI U-2540 Wilhelm Bauer is preserved in Germany as a museum, I just don't remember where.

Bremerhaven :up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Bauer_(U-boat)

Edit: Can't believe I just did that second post :nope: Should've added it to the previous one :yep: (onset of dementia) :damn:

Boris
02-07-07, 06:05 AM
I'd certainly be interested in this. I have about three months of summer holidays, from june onwards.

Seeadler
02-07-07, 06:18 AM
Of the former sub-bases you does not see much today, only in Kiel you can see the ruin of the subpens. In Wilhelmshaven the area of the former subbase is now a public beach, bar, restaurant area. The subpens in Hamburg are gone now and on that area is the new container terminal located.

Next to my house in the forrest is the former torpedo and ammunition camp for the WWII sub-base Hamburg. Today you can see there only some destroyed shelters and barraks and maybe deers. ;)

DanCanovas
02-07-07, 06:50 AM
Of the former sub-bases you does not see much today, only in Kiel you can see the ruin of the subpens. In Wilhelmshaven the area of the former subbase is now a public beach, bar, restaurant area. The subpens in Hamburg are gone now and on that area is the new container terminal located.

Next to my house in the forrest is the former torpedo and ammunition camp for the WWII sub-base Hamburg. Today you can see there only some destroyed shelters and barraks and maybe deers. ;)

i'd be quite happy to spot a couple of modern subs in Kiel, are they visible?

Gezoes
02-07-07, 08:37 AM
Interesting idea this! However, looking at my wallet, probably only Wilhelmshaven is doable. There's a boat there? Because a sub, beer and you lot sounds good :cool:

And, it would also give me a chance to swing by nearby Bremerhaven given some research. I have some unfinished family business there.

P.S.: XXI U-2540 Wilhelm Bauer is preserved in Germany as a museum, I just don't remember where.
Bremerhaven :up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Bauer_(U-boat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Bauer_%28U-boat))

Edit: Can't believe I just did that second post :nope: Should've added it to the previous one :yep: (onset of dementia) :damn:
:huh: :huh:

Well, how about that! :cool:

Thanks for clearing up my dementia in this ;)

GT182
02-07-07, 10:21 AM
You lucky sods... getting to see a Uboat for real. Wish I could get over there too but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon I'm afraid. The "Warden" says so. LOL

Not to hijack your thread Chris, but I thought this might go along with seeing history for us over here on the eastcoast of the US. If we can plan it for the same day then we can all raise a toast to both sides of the pond at the same time. :D A tribute to all the vets living and lost from the war. :D

So with that.... how about the guys close to Camden, New Jersey plan something to see the USS New Jersey this summer? I've been by it numerous times and thought of taking the tour, but it's too frigging cold to do it now. LOL Tho I think it's closed for the winter months. I'll have to check. If that's the case, then when it reopens this spring for the summer months.

Edit: Seth, could you make this thread a Stickey so it doesn't disappear? Thanks.

Gizzmoe
02-07-07, 10:37 AM
Edit: Seth, could you make this thread a Stickey so it doesn't disappear? Thanks.
I sticky it for a week.

ReallyDedPoet
02-07-07, 10:57 AM
You lucky sods... getting to see a Uboat for real. Wish I could get over there too but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon I'm afraid. The "Warden" says so. LOL

Not to hijack your thread Chris, but I thought this might go along with seeing history for us over here on the eastcoast of the US. If we can plan it for the same day then we can all raise a toast to both sides of the pond at the same time. :D A tribute to all the vets living and lost from the war. :D

So with that.... how about the guys close to Camden, New Jersey plan something to see the USS New Jersey this summer? I've been by it numerous times and thought of taking the tour, but it's too frigging cold to do it now. LOL Tho I think it's closed for the winter months. I'll have to check. If that's the case, then when it reopens this spring for the summer months.

Edit: Seth, could you make this thread a Stickey so it doesn't disappear? Thanks.

U 505 in Chicago:up:

mr chris
02-07-07, 01:38 PM
Hi guys i will try and find out when my summer leave is tommorow so i can try and put some dates in the air and we can see what dates are best for everyone.
As for where to go we do have many options which depend on how much time and how much money it costs.
We could just vist one place or we could start at Kiel or Whilemlshaven and use the train to get from one to the other. Im sure we could even stop off at Hamburg to take in a vist of the U-boat there as well.
As for time if we planed this over the weekend we could take in say kiel and the memorial and the sights there for a day then enjoy the night life there for one night then move on to Hamburg the next day then on to Whilmlshaven later the same to take in the night there and do the sight seeing the next day.

This is just an idea if anyone has any ideas it would be great to hear them.
The more ideas and options we have to chose from the better it will be.

DanCanovas
02-07-07, 02:23 PM
this sounds like an awesome idea Chris.

mr chris
02-07-07, 02:50 PM
Well have started to look into some promising sites that we could vist.

U-boot Wilhelm Bauer, Bremerhaven
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=debremerhaven

U-boat-Bunker-Shipyard Valentin, Bremen
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=debremen
http://www.atlantikwall.net/related_ubw_valentin.htm

Navy Memorial and U-boat Museum, Laboe
Laboe is about 10 km north of Kiel, where the Kiel Fjord flows into the Baltic Sea.
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=delaboe

Wilhelmshaven,
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=dewilhelmshaven

ReallyDedPoet
02-07-07, 03:28 PM
Well have started to look into some promising sites that we could vist.

U-boot Wilhelm Bauer, Bremerhaven
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=debremerhaven

U-boat-Bunker-Shipyard Valentin, Bremen
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=debremen
http://www.atlantikwall.net/related_ubw_valentin.htm

Navy Memorial and U-boat Museum, Laboe
Laboe is about 10 km north of Kiel, where the Kiel Fjord flows into the Baltic Sea.
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=delaboe

Wilhelmshaven,
http://www.ww2sites.com/index.php?action=jump&page=dewilhelmshaven



Nice links:up::up:

_Seth_
02-07-07, 04:06 PM
Edit: Seth, could you make this thread a Stickey so it doesn't disappear? Thanks.
I sticky it for a week.Thanx, Gizzmoe!:up::up:

DanCanovas
02-07-07, 05:09 PM
if I can spot a Type 212A ill be happy!!

Jimbuna
02-07-07, 05:36 PM
That 'overnight' in Hamburg brings back a few memories from my navy days in the late seventies :lol:
I'm maried now!! :oops:

DanCanovas
02-07-07, 05:39 PM
That 'overnight' in Hamburg brings back a few memories from my navy days in the late seventies :lol:
I'm maried now!! :oops:

you dirty stop out! :x

melnibonian
02-07-07, 07:20 PM
That 'overnight' in Hamburg brings back a few memories from my navy days in the late seventies :lol:
I'm maried now!! :oops:
Been to St. Pauli Jim?;) The best neighborhood in Hamburg I'm told;) :p :oops:

emtmedic005
02-07-07, 08:06 PM
This sounds like a great trip, but living in america it would cost $$$. I have been to Europe many times, and i love Germany, though i havent been to the northern parts of Germany. I did visit my ancestor';s home town of Ulm and went on some trips up the Rhine and then went to the low countries.

If anyone from the North East is considering going to visit Germany for this trip let me know. I live near Boston, im a poor college student that drives a zamboni at a ice rink to make money. So if i save up enough i may want to go.

O and my dad served in the US Navy and often visited many German and Danish Ports while in the service. He possibly visited some old U-Boat pens/bunkers in his travels. He also helped design and build submarines for EB.

Jimbuna
02-08-07, 05:54 AM
@Dan
You bet :oops:

@Mel
Oh yes :yep: ...the memories come flooding back :cool:

Jusa_Finn
02-09-07, 09:35 AM
I'm interested most definetly if I can get leave from work.

WilhelmSchulz.
02-09-07, 03:10 PM
Finance everything and Id go.:yep:

mr chris
02-16-07, 09:32 AM
Hi guys, sorry for the lack of progression on the idea of this idea for a summer trip to the U-Boat bases in the north of Germany. But i have been very busy in RL and all time i have had spare i have been testing the new GWX patch.
Well in my last post i said i will try and find out what dates i will be on summer leave but i have hit a wall on that front as it looks like i will be going to canada for a period of time in the summer but i do not for how long. could be one month or four. Dont you just love work. Nothing is ever black and white or easy.
If it is for just the month i belive my summer leave will be around August time. But if i turns out to be the full four months i will be away all summer and there for not able to make the trip. I hope to find out in the next month or so how long i will be away for. Sorry i cant be more helpfull. You just gotta love my work. There motto is last mintue dot com i think.
But if it does turn out to be just the one month and i get my leave in August how does that sound to the guys that said they might intrested?

Jusa_Finn
02-16-07, 09:49 AM
I guess I can arrange leave in august.

Boris
02-16-07, 09:57 AM
August sounds fine to me, but it depends on who I'm going with. Last thing I want to be doing is counting rivets with a bunch of old farts :rotfl:

mr chris
02-16-07, 10:17 AM
August sounds fine to me, but it depends on who I'm going with. Last thing I want to be doing is counting rivets with a bunch of old farts :rotfl:

Hey Boris if i do make and get leave in August i can tell you know that counting rivets is not a pass time i like at all. :yep::yep:
Im intrested in U-Boats and the history of WWII but i love a piss up it sort of goes with the job.:arrgh!::up:

Boris
02-16-07, 10:22 AM
I wasn't having a dig at you guys, just making the point that I didn't really know who you guys are. :D
I'm 23, so I'd probably be the youngest one going.

mr chris
02-16-07, 10:26 AM
I wasn't having a dig at you guys, just making the point that I didn't really know who you guys are. :D
I'm 23, so I'd probably be the youngest one going.

I total know where your coming from matey i was only 22 when i traveled round the world for a few years. The last thing i wanted back then was to get stuck with a group of boring people who took themselfs to seriously.
What i want to get out of this trip is to see some great history sites and have a great time enjoying the nightlife and hopefully meet some like minded people.

codmander
02-16-07, 10:38 AM
Hoe about going fishing:up: most wrecks where sunk by u boats

http://home.comcast.net/~codmander

Jimbuna
02-16-07, 12:32 PM
Why not transfer the destination to Canada....if that's not too far for us 'old farts' :hmm: :arrgh!:

f16falcon
02-16-07, 12:36 PM
If this comes together i would love to see the pics here on Subsim! Go for it guys.

Jimbuna
02-16-07, 12:43 PM
Will I be charged for excessive baggage if I want to bring my zimmer with me :hmm:

mr chris
02-16-07, 01:04 PM
:rotfl::rotfl:LMAO Jim :rotfl::rotfl:
Im hopefull that the trip will go ahead as planned but you just never know. So dont want to promise anything that i can not commit to.

Jimbuna
02-16-07, 01:39 PM
Well if it's in late summer I might be in an electric wheelchair by then so could someone bring a set of jump leads 'just in case' :arrgh!:

John|Blackthorne
02-16-07, 05:30 PM
I'd also like to join your group on this summer trip.
I'm a student (2nd year) so very poor with the finances but i'm getting a job now and so i'll be able to save some money for this event. Just need to know an estimate figure of the costs....whenver you have the time to figure things out. 

mr chris
02-16-07, 05:47 PM
You would be most welcome mate. As soon as i know what is going on with my leave over the summer i will get to work priceing it up.:up:
As i said before i cant comit to something till i know if i can go but if anyone could help out and find some good places to stay in Kiel and Whilemshaven. It would be a godsend.

kurtz
02-17-07, 10:38 AM
Well if it's in late summer I might be in an electric wheelchair by then so could someone bring a set of jump leads 'just in case' :arrgh!:

As long as your not going to 'start anything';)

DanCanovas
02-18-07, 03:11 PM
im up for this

Kapitan
02-18-07, 03:21 PM
Would be good if i ever get my cars sorted.

mr chris
02-28-07, 01:09 PM
Hi guys sorry for the long time no post on this subject.
But i have finaly heard from work that are tip to canada is going to take part in September :D.
Should have some news on when my summer leave dates are in a month fingers crossed.
So that means it is looking very good for this trip all we need to do now is sort out who wants to go and what sites people wish to vist.
That is if anyone is still intrested.

Jimbuna
02-28-07, 03:22 PM
Are you kidding :o ....a trip to Canada!!... Count me in :up:

mr chris
02-28-07, 03:24 PM
Jim your welcome to come join the unit in Cananda if you wish to lug around a MPMG:up:

Jimbuna
02-28-07, 03:32 PM
No prob....just as soon as I can get rid of this bloody 'postman/haversack' who appears to be following me around this forum mate ;)

mr chris
02-28-07, 03:35 PM
You mean the is just the one:shifty::hmm::up: