didnt get credit for sinking revenge BB

[79TransAm]

So I snuk into scapa in october of 1939 and sind an aux cruiser and a revenge BB, but it didnt give me credit for the revenge. I sent 3 fish into her and it took about an hour for her to sink, I waited to confirm that she sunk and then left scapa, got back to base and noticed my tonnage was about 20K to low. Anyidea why i didnt get credit for sinking the BB

[IRONxMortlock]

Did it actually sink? Perhaps the water was very shallow and she rested on the sea floor thus, in the game's mind, not sinking.

I've had this happen to an Ocean liner I attacked in a harbour before.
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[Tiny]

Did german subs really go into enemy harbors ?!

[Mooncatt]

Did german subs really go into enemy harbors ?!

no not really tbh apart from the famous uboat captain i forget his name :oops: he went into scapa and sunk a huge amount which made him famous, going into harbours is suicide tbh

[zocho]

Kapitänleutnant Günther Prien (http://uboat.net/men/prien.htm)
Commanding Officer, U-47 (http://uboat.net/find_boat.php3?find_boat=47)


they have the whole story at the followinf link...and man, this guy had the coolest conning tower emblem

http://uboat.net/ops/scapa_flow.htm

[mookiemookie]

Did german subs really go into enemy harbors ?!

As far as I know, Gunther Prien was the only one to attempt and successfully pull off a harbor raid. Infiltrating harbors was, as a rule, suicide. Since I am an uber-realism geek, I don't do it in SH3 either. :smug:

And zocho: Apparently everyone else thought his emblem was the coolest, too. They adopted Prien's "Snorting Bull" as the 7th Flotilla emblem.

[Abd_von_Mumit]

I've heard there were some more heroes that didn't manage to stay alive nor to sink anything significant. The "ports raiding sport" stopped after Doenitz order that prohibited this kind of tourism.

[79TransAm]

it showed a sunk icon on my map, And I usually dont go into ports either but i was reading the scapa flow thread on this board so i figured what the heck

[andy_311]

it showed a sunk icon on my map, And I usually dont go into ports either but i was reading the scapa flow thread on this board so i figured what the heck
don't blame you now go hit Loch Ewe,NY,Dunkirk and the rest the worst thing that can happen to you is you die it's not all that hard in the game and you might be suprised on what you can find.:up:

[DrMilton]

Early in the war you can get away with many harbour raids as long as you are patient, quiet and pick a harbour that is not enclosed in narrow bay. In Hartlepool you can always score C2s and tankers. The only problem is that those darn T2s just wont sink...:damn: (not the best targets for TypII boats).

Anyway, you can even survive Dover (for a while at least) long enough to score the early C2s. Hartlepool and Portland are my favorites regarding routes in and out of.

[zocho]

Did german subs really go into enemy harbors ?!
As far as I know, Gunther Prien was the only one to attempt and successfully pull off a harbor raid. Infiltrating harbors was, as a rule, suicide. Since I am an uber-realism geek, I don't do it in SH3 either. :smug:

And zocho: Apparently everyone else thought his emblem was the coolest, too. They adopted Prien's "Snorting Bull" as the 7th Flotilla emblem.
i was actually referring to the scruffy looking skull with top-hat & bones & umbrella
http://www.uboat.net/photos/u47_kiel.jpg

[Hondo314]

Early in the war you can get away with many harbour raids as long as you are patient, quiet and pick a harbour that is not enclosed in narrow bay. In Hartlepool you can always score C2s and tankers. The only problem is that those darn T2s just wont sink...:damn: (not the best targets for TypII boats).

Anyway, you can even survive Dover (for a while at least) long enough to score the early C2s. Hartlepool and Portland are my favorites regarding routes in and out of.

I also have had difficulty sinking tankers in port in my IID with one eel. I have had the best luck as follows. Firing one eel at 10 m (1/2 m below keel) under the aft edge of the forward superstructure (forward of midships) breaks the back 30% of the time. The 1/2 m is important b/c with 1 m below keel depth, the back doesn't break as often (I didn't finish the calculation once I saw the probability was less than 30%:know:). If the back doesn't break, a second eel set to impact hitting the engine room increases the probability of sinking by 30% (60% probability with 2 eels).

I was hoping a single eel on impact to the engine room would be sufficient in deeper water, and I am in the middle of attacking a convoy just departing Southend. Even in deep water , one eel to the engine room with impact pistol complete with secondary explosions still didn't sink a T2. It was dead in the water and I finished it with a second fish (no deck gun on my IID) at 10 m and magnetic pistol under the forward half of the forward superstructure.

Have you been able to improve your efficiency in sinking T2's? I don't know how much GWX, convoy mods, or ship model mods may be affecting the results. I'm using 1.4b patched vanilla right now before switching to GWX so I can appreciate the difference.

Any additional information to improve my efficiency before I graduate into a VIIC would be helpful. Please include torp depth, location of detonation (as accurately as possible, but tough to see when evading escorts), and mods. :know:

[Spytrx]

Did german subs really go into enemy harbors ?!
there was one other besides Prien who went into a Skandinavian harbour and brought a couple of Brits down... but I can't remember for the life of me his name :(

[danlisa]

So I snuk into scapa in october of 1939 and sind an aux cruiser and a revenge BB, but it didnt give me credit for the revenge. I sent 3 fish into her and it took about an hour for her to sink, I waited to confirm that she sunk and then left scapa, got back to base and noticed my tonnage was about 20K to low. Anyidea why i didnt get credit for sinking the BB

Did you get the 'She's going down' message. If not, it's not sunk.

This is a good rule for all those claiming not to get credit for sinkings. You must get this message.;)

[mimik]

Did you get the 'She's going down' message. If not, it's not sunk.

This is a good rule for all those claiming not to get credit for sinkings. You must get this message.;)

I don't think the message is that necessary!.. i did get credit for bout 3 ships, if i remember correctly, for which there was no message saying 'She's going down'!.. If i need conformation for the kill, i switch to the captain's log to verify that the ship has actually been sunk!..

[Stoli]

Twice I've struck ships only to have them nose dive into the ocean floor leaving thier screws sticking out of the water. I had to Ram them both to get credit for the tonage.

Last night I hit a large merchant with a 2 fish salvo - got the "she's going down" message right after inpact, the ship NEVER sank... Still got credit, still showed the sunk ship icon on the map. Strange.

[bigboywooly]

Sometimes you dont get the SGD message but still the sinking credit

IIRC the ship has to be a certain depth before that message is triggered and ship is classed as sunk
Thats why some of the larger warships sit on their ass on the bottom yet are not classed as sunk

[HunterICX]

Sometimes you dont get the SGD message but still the sinking credit

IIRC the ship has to be a certain depth before that message is triggered and ship is classed as sunk
Thats why some of the larger warships sit on their ass on the bottom yet are not classed as sunk


:shifty: dont mention the bloody line in the NY city ...
I shot that bugger with my last to eels....it sinks!:o
*bonk* Liner : Ha-Ha!

[Tex_Hill]

Hi all,

Sorry to play necromancy with an old thread, but I also didn't get credit for a kill even though I sank it in water over 1,000 meters deep & watched it go down through my scope. Any one have any ideas on what the problem could be?

I'm using GWX & Sub Commander.


Thanks,

Tex

[Avatar]

I'v often wondered this myself. Did you actually see the ship go down? If visibility is to bad, drop to PD and let the sonar hear it sink. I think that this should allow for the credit.
If neither of these work, something else is afoot.

edit: whups, you did see it go down, sorry for not paying close attention.

[Steel_Tomb]

Were there any aircraft? I put three fish into the side of a nelson class BB, took three hours to sink while i dodged 9 (yes 9!) DD escorts lol. Before she sank though the boys at the luftwaffe decided to ruin my day and went for her (they wont hit her, they never hit anything) BOOM direct hit on the superstructure, she went down stern first and I didn't get any credit for it.

[Tex_Hill]

No other forces were involved. The ship in question was of the Black Swan class and was sunk at 0930 hours in calm seas & clear skies.


This ship & 2 others of the same class were escorting a large convoy on its way to Gibraltar. This patrol is set in October of '41 and I just finished resupplying at Thalia. I caught the convoy after it had passed Portugal and turned South East headed for Gibraltar.

Initially, I sank a merchant and one of the other Black Swans, but was unable to sink this one before it commenced its depth charge attack. It kept dropping charges - even though I had ordered silent running - until I shut down the engines & continued to dive. I eluded it finally by playing possum for 2 hours & diving to 210 meters. After 2 hours I was finally able to order slow ahead even though the 2nd Black Swan continued to circle above me - the 3rd escort ship had been damaged by forces unknown before I intercepted the convoy and was content to continue on with the merchants while the undamaged escort danced on my head.

At 2 knots I slowly pulled away from the circling escort and was able surface to persicope depth & set up shots with my stern tubes from 2 klicks away. When I fired my first shot the escort presented me 90 degress port aspect and was running at 12 knots. The torpedo hit the target dead center & she came to a complete stop and started to list to port & aft. I fired a second torpedo to finish her off which hit to the left of the first shot. She sank almost immediately & I watched her go down through the scope.

As soon as she went down, I surfaced the boat to catch up with the rest of the convoy. That is when I got tired so I saved & exited.

[bigboywooly]

Did you get the SGD message before you saved ?
If not then it wont count as a sunk ship
Try not to save submerged or too close to enemy units
Strange things happen

Similary the original post - any updgrades on first patrol CAN lead to loss of sinkings
Dont upgrade anything in first patrol
Not sure if that applies to crew members who cost renown but I never do
Not even a conning tower emblem