Computer Specs Required?

[KiwiVenge]

Hello everyone :)
Was wondering what sort of PC specs will be needed to run SH4. I remember a fair few stability problems SH3 had with certain video cards and such.
I have a P4 3000, gig of ram and a AGP 6600GT Nvidia vid card. Ya, it is a machine well past it's prime for sure, but do not want to upgrade just yet.
Think SH4 will run on this or not?
Thanks a head of time for any responses. :)

[bookworm_020]

From the sound of your specs it should (my computer is around the same specs), but the game may have be played at a lower (simple graphics) setting to make it run at it's best.

[TDK1044]

SH 4 will run on your rig. A P4 3.0 is fine and your Graphics card is just capable of running it, and although the British Ubisoft website has minimum RAM at 512MB, I think that's nonsense. I think 1 GIG will be the minimum RAM requirement. You'll be able to run SH4 at lower graphical settings.

[Schultzy]

A question re the specs from a complete techno-idea. Is this Pixel 2.0 shader thing an absolute must have? As in, no shader, no run?

And if I may be so bold, does my card: Geforce 6600 have one? (As i have no clue.)

Thanks guys.

[CCIP]

1) Yes, and I believe SHIII required the pixelshader as well.
2) Yes, the 6600/6800 series have it.

[THE_MASK]

Hello everyone :)
Was wondering what sort of PC specs will be needed to run SH4. :)

How do you want it to run .
Just barely with all the graphics options on low .
Adequately with no stuttering and graphics options on medium.
High end with all the bells and whistles with fantastic graphics on high.

[KiwiVenge]

Hello everyone :)
Was wondering what sort of PC specs will be needed to run SH4. :)
How do you want it to run .
Just barely with all the graphics options on low .
Adequately with no stuttering and graphics options on medium.
High end with all the bells and whistles with fantastic graphics on high.
I want it to run adequately with no stuttering. As far as detail settings, low - medium would be fine as I could trade quality for screen rate how I see fit.
If my PC specs would be barely enough to run it at low and get a decent frame rate I wouldn't buy it.
SH3 had a friggin ton of problems depending on what vid cards etc people had. At the time my machine and vid card was fine for horse power, and still there was the odd problem I had to work around. Now coming into SH4 with the same machine I am a bit leary. If my specs are barely enough to run it all, I won't bother buying it because of the track record SH3 had.
Thanks for the replies so far guys!

[Sockeye]

Ya mean I'll have to update from my FX5200? Nooooooo!!!! :D

Actually, my 5200 has served me well over the passed few (five?) years, and I wanna see just how bad SH4 kicks my computer's ass before shelling out any money. Also, hopefully the bigger and better cards will be out, and anything less will be easier on the wallet. But of course, its time to update.

So what would you guys suggest for a new card? I've been looking at the GeForce 7900, but wouldn't mind getting some opinions.

As far as my rig goes, all's I know is:
Pentium 4 CPU 2.66GHz
2.67 GHz, 1.50 GB of RAM

Beyond that I can't say without having a tip on how to get the information. I understand that AGP and PCI motherboards and GPUs aren't compatible, and obviously I wouldn't want to buy something I can't use. If you could tell me how to pull this information about my machine up, that would be great.


Cheers, mates
:()1:

[KiwiVenge]

I think the GT6600 is the highest specced Nvidia that can come AGP.
Not sure about what the other manufacturers have to offer in AGP.

[THE_MASK]

I know how you feel . My card is AGP and this is a major pain . Get another 1 gig of ram maybe and see how that goes .

[AG124]

My P4 3.0 Ghz processor and 1.5 GB (400 Mhz) RAM should be sufficient for this game. However, I have been told that my ATI 9600 TV Capture Card will not likely provide me with a very good SHIV experience.:cry: I might have to transfer it to one of my older systems, and buy another one.:damn: It has no real trouble with SHIII though.

[flintlock]

I think the GT6600 is the highest specced Nvidia that can come AGP.
Not sure about what the other manufacturers have to offer in AGP.The fastest AGP card available today is an ATI XT1950 Pro (available in 256 and 512MB versions). A couple of nice NVIDIA AGP solutions are the 7600 GT and the 7800 GS. So you can see that you have a few options available to you. The XT1950 is a great card that really makes an AGP system a viable gaming platform for another year or so. Much depends on other system components too, however.

[CCIP]

Ya mean I'll have to update from my FX5200? Nooooooo!!!! :D



Yes, yes you are. You'll be glad when you're rid of it for something better, too (as I did) :p

Actually, the 5200 was not even compatible with SHIII

[CptGrayWolf]

SH 4 will run on your rig. A P4 3.0 is fine and your Graphics card is just capable of running it, and although the British Ubisoft website has minimum RAM at 512MB, I think that's nonsense. I think 1 GIG will be the minimum RAM requirement. You'll be able to run SH4 at lower graphical settings.

Minimum 512MB might be more accurate then we think, I say this because I only have 768MB RAM and I'm running SHIII at 1600x1200 AAx2, quality driver settings and she runs perfect! My vid card is a 6600GT.
Maybe SHIII and IV are coded in a way not to demand much RAM.

[bechmads]

Hey guys what about my laptop then 2gHz Pentium2gb Ram ATI Radeon X600 PCIx16 (256 mb)Can this take it?

[AJ!]

Hey guys what about my laptop then 2gHz Pentium2gb Ram ATI Radeon X600 PCIx16 (256 mb)Can this take it?

No problems there, you should run the game fine

I dont know why everyone sees anything under the geforce 7 series as inadequate to run SH4.. my old laptops radeon 9700 could run SH3 maxed out fine and SH4 wont be a massive jump requirements wise so a 6600 should be able to run the game fine on med-high :up:

[bechmads]

thanks for anwering :) good to know i wont have to buy a new one ;)

[Kruger]

My specs are: barton2500@3200 - 2 gig of ram, nvidia 6800GT. To be honest....my processor worries me most, he's a bit old, and even though he runs justa fine at 2200 real mhz...

[Schultzy]

Thanks for the answer CCIP! :up: At least i'm in with a shout at enjoying her at the low end of the spectrum then, good to know.

[TDK1044]

Minimum 512MB might be more accurate then we think, I say this because I only have 768MB RAM and I'm running SHIII at 1600x1200 AAx2, quality driver settings and she runs perfect! My vid card is a 6600GT.
Maybe SHIII and IV are coded in a way not to demand much RAM.[/quote]

What you're going to find is that Ubisoft will do exactly what they did with SH3, and that's to up the RAM specs just before the release of the game. With SH3, they stated minimum RAM as 256MB right up until about three weeks before the release of the game, at which point they posted minimum RAM as 512MB.

Don't be fooled. The minimum RAM for SH4 will be 1 GIG.

[Konovalov]

I built my new system partly with SHIV and future addon/unofficial mods in mind. Details of my system as per my sig. I'm covered. :up:

[AnthonyKennethDonaldCalve]

I am a brand new sub skipper, having just come into possession of sh3 (and installed the grey wolves mod). Having gone through all of the material I can find relating to SH4, it seems to me that the graphics are the area most overhauled. The ships seem to contain very high resolution textures and be polygon heavy (full of detail). The water/weather engine has had the same attention lavished on its visuals.

The crew members seem to be composed of far more polygons and the lighting engine has been overhauled (judging by the lovely interior shots).

I am far from an experienced pc gamer, but it would seem to me that a minimum of 1 gig memory (on system) and 256 meg dedicated video memory on your card must be expected.

I imagine that cpu is probably less of an issue and if your current cpu can handle the latest grey wolves mod, you will be ok.

Your video card and system ram wil be the deciding factors here i think...at least judging by my own experiences with pc flight sims..

[Sailor Steve]

Welcome aboard, brandnewsubskipper.:sunny:

[fredbass]

AnthonyKennethDonaldCalve,

Boy that's a long name you've got there. :huh:

What shall we call you for short? :-?

And welcome

[CCIP]

I'm curious how it'll do on a 128mb card (GeForce 6800OC in my case). I've never had the slightest complaint about SHIII on it, since it's pretty much at the top end of where 128mb cards go, but I know it does start showing its age when I enable the latest pixel shaders in games that have them.

Suppose we'll wait and see. One advantage to subsims is that they don't require ultra-high frame rates to play without trouble.

[GakunGak]

Ya mean I'll have to update from my FX5200? Nooooooo!!!! :D



Yes, yes you are. You'll be glad when you're rid of it for something better, too (as I did) :p

Actually, the 5200 was not even compatible with SHIII
I kindly ask to explain this as I had fx5200 and replaced it for X1600Pro 512MB Agp... I was able to run SH3 on fx5200 but on explosions there was a great framerate drop, but would get back on normal...
For those concerning if your rig will play something and how, http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest
:smug:

[Elder-Pirate]

Well I believe it will be at least 1 GIG of RAM and definately 2 shader pixel so I just ordered another 2 GIG RAM for my allready 1 GIG RAM, Athlon XP 3200+, Nvidia GeForce 7800 GS OC 256MB AGP 8X ( supports 3 pixel shader ). Motherboard says she won't support PCI-Express so the highest Nvidia AGP card will have to do the trick.;)

[GakunGak]

Or you could plug in your USB Flash Disk with 1 GB if you have vista...:hmm:

[Elder-Pirate]

Or you could plug in your USB Flash Disk with 1 GB if you have vista...:hmm:

"Vista" will remain untouch by my computer for a very looooong time. I'm allready fed up with "Bill & company's" tricks and I'm just limping along now, I don't want to SINK :help: just yet. ;)

[GakunGak]

I pretty much agree 100%, at least will wait for SP1...:hmm:

[Roads88]

With limited time, I want to "play" on my computer, not work an OS problem.:damn:

I'm a Vista free zone.:sunny:

[GakunGak]

Uncle Bill si not gonna be happy 'bout this....:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Grey_Raven75]

What's the point of running on OS that's gonna monopolize your computer's resources? Seems kinda the reverse of what an OS should do. It should simply be able to get you to the files and programs you want to run. It shouldn't be the program that your computer is built to handle.

Pentium D 840 3.2 gHz
1 gig ram
nVidia 6800 XT 512 ram
DX 9.0c

[flyingdane]

Mine will not play sh4.
P4 3.2gig with (HT turned on in the bios) 160gig hdd 2gigs of 533mhz pc4200 ram,
x850gt ATI video card (pcie) Dimond viper 7.1 sound card, 500w psu.:down:

[CCIP]

Mine will not play sh4.
P4 3.2gig with (HT turned on in the bios) 160gig hdd 2gigs of 533mhz pc4200 ram,
x850gt ATI video card (pcie) Dimond viper 7.1 sound card, 500w psu.:down:

Eh? Why won't that play it?

[flyingdane]

Two Slow..:dead:

[CCIP]

Two Slow..:dead:

...how's that too slow? That's faster than mine, and mine is well above the minimum requirements. In fact yours even hits the 'recommended' requirements. :hmm:

[flyingdane]

Two Slow..:dead:

...how's that too slow? That's faster than mine, and mine is well above the minimum requirements. In fact yours even hits the 'recommended' requirements. :hmm:

Only barely......OLD TEC," I Will be turning off alot of cool stuff in this new game :yep:

[flyingdane]

You All Don't be taken a way with the new specs for this game I have seen the screen shots..and the trailers.
It will take a good video card to play this game. :hmm:

[flintlock]

At the higher resolutions (especially widescreen) with the graphics settings maxed out, high AA/aniso, lots of action (fleet attack etc) on the screen -- SH4 will no doubt tax the system. The good news is, the game's settings will be scable to allow people to adjust them to find an acceptable frame rate to their liking.

[flyingdane]

Don't mean to scare anyone..But the specs for sh4 will all most be 2x what sh3 with GWX is,.....so if you can run sh3 gwx than you might be able to run sh4 on low-to med, settings. :damn:

[CCIP]

What about optimization?

I'm quite certain that SHIV will have been optimized as far as the engine goes. And as far as I can see, the only serious new load is on the graphics cards when it comes to higher-end effects. The rest is quite comparable to SHIII.

[flyingdane]

The Sound alone will tax your system...(Be warned) :o :lol:

[flyingdane]

Going with what i said above...IF you want have all the glory of what this game has to offer be prepaird to upgrade your system....(And thats the Jist of it)..Take it or leve it". :huh:

[CCIP]

Stop scaring us budget hacks already :damn::damn::damn:

:rotfl:

[flyingdane]

Just one more thing then i will shut up.......The Deves aint stupid they are making this game to last for-a-while and with that in mind it will demand a hell of-alot-more than SH3 ever did :yep:

[flintlock]

SH4 looks to be one of those worthy titles that warrants a system upgrade, component or otherwise. At least if you care to enjoy it in all it's splendor (which I certainly do -- heck, it'll help with FSX too).

[StandingCow]

While, yes, SH4 will require higher specs than SH3, it is going to run smoother. SH3 should not run as slowly as it does on fast systems (loading screens, etc).

[Roads88]

Flyingdane you could depress a hyena.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[GakunGak]

Flyingdane you could depress a hyena.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
You got that right!!!!!:up: :up: :up:

[TDK1044]

Don't mean to scare anyone..But the specs for sh4 will all most be 2x what sh3 with GWX is,.....so if you can run sh3 gwx than you might be able to run sh4 on low-to med, settings. :damn:

I hardly think a P4 2.0 processor, a decent mid range video card and 1 GIG of RAM is scary as a minimum spec for a game like this. Sure, if you really want to run the game maxed out you'll need a high end system, but SH4 will be playable to anyone who has the above specs.

[Phil]

where do i check to findout my comp specs?

[Nightmare]

I hardly think a P4 2.0 processor, a decent mid range video card and 1 GIG of RAM is scary as a minimum spec for a game like this. Sure, if you really want to run the game maxed out you'll need a high end system, but SH4 will be playable to anyone who has the above specs.

While I have no doubt that my current machine will run SH4 (matches perfectly to your example specs) it is purely a question of how well and at what detail/graphic settings. Since it’s pushing 5 years old and I’ve got the fastest CPU that the motherboard can handle, and I’m restricted on video cards due to a AGP slot, so I will probably be looking at building a Core 2 Duo machine here in the spring to get up to date. 5 years out of a PC at the rate technology has been going isn’t bad at all.

Slight OT: What is that picture in your sig? Is that the official limited edition content packaging?

[TDK1044]

To get five years out of a rig thesedays is excellent! I only lasted 4 years before my recent upgrade.

The sig picture is the 'Collectors Addition' packaging as of right now.

[Barkhorn1x]

where do i check to findout my comp specs?

Two easy methods:

- Got to the My Computer icon and right click - go to Properties.

- Or run "DxDiag" by going to Start/Run - typing it in the box. This will give you some detailed information.

Barkhorn.

[Phil]

where do i check to findout my comp specs?

Two easy methods:

- Got to the My Computer icon and right click - go to Properties.

- Or run "DxDiag" by going to Start/Run - typing it in the box. This will give you some detailed information.

Barkhorn.

thanks, looks like im just over the 2 gig and 1 ram but prob gonna have some probs

[THE_MASK]

Get with the program !!!!!!!

[Barkhorn1x]

Just put in another GiG of RAM - man I feel a whole lot better and ready for show time.

Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2 GHz
2048MB RAM
Nvidia Geforce 7600 GT 256MB PCI card

Barkhorn.

[Phil]

on the home comp i have 2.79 ghz with 1 ram and a nvidia graphic card not sure how good it is but ran fine on sh3, is this gonna work decent with sh4?

[flintlock]

Decent? Depends how you define it. You should be fine to run SH4, though you'll likely need to scale things down in the settings and turn down some of the effects/eye candy to obtain respectable frame rates for gameplay purposes.

[Phil]

thanks for the info i would rather do that than have to get an upgrade

[fullmetaledges]

guys seriously, I'm dumb as a box of rocks when it come to computer guts. Can you tell me if sh4 will run good on my system.

p4 3ghz
radeon x1300 512mb
1gb of ram
other than the ram am I ok?

[Schultzy]

Just wondering, if we "low enders" scale SH4 down to the very minimum graphics settings in order for it to run well, it's still bound to look every bit as good, if not better than SH3 right? Or am I being overly simplistic with that view?

[flintlock]

p4 3ghz
radeon x1300 512mb
1gb of ram
other than the ram am I ok?I think you'll find it will run it, though likely at the sacrifice of low settings to get acceptable frame rates. Lower settings as in game options and low to no AA/Aniso. A lot depends on what resolution you like to run at too. The processor is okay, though your video card may find that things get quite taxing when the action ramps up. 1GB, what can you say about memory -- a little more wouldn't hurt. Although not optimal, I'm sure you can manage with what you have (2GB would definitely give you more breathing room).

[flintlock]

if we "low enders" scale SH4 down to the very minimum graphics settings in order for it to run well, it's still bound to look every bit as good, if not better than SH3 right? Or am I being overly simplistic with that view?You're likely being a little overly optimistic here. While I'm sure it will still look decent, I think SH3 at max settings and say, 4xAA/8x aniso, will look better than SH4 with zero AA/aniso and all settings at their lowest (or turned off outright). It's really all speculation at this stage. Much is dependent on how well SH4 is optimized, how much the graphics have changed within the engine (texture/poly count, etc) and what new adjustments are made available to the user. Who knows, you may end up being pleasantly surprised.

[Magua]

The recommended specs state a Processor of 3ghz..

But what about the Duo Processors? :doh:

I have an Intel (R) Core(Tm) 2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86 Ghz (2 CPUs)

Will that work the same as a 3ghz Processor?

I also have 2GB of RAM and a 512 MB Video Card.

Thanks !

[flintlock]

The recommended specs state a Processor of 3ghz..But what about the Duo Processors? You should be in great shape. keep in mind that the 3.0GHz recommended is the older P4 tech. Your C2D is a powerful little processor and more powerful than the latter. I haven't read anything official with respect to whether or not SH4 supports multithreading.

[Schultzy]

Just want to say thanks for the answer Flintlock! :arrgh!:
Guess it'll be a case of keeping my fingers crossed, but my feet on the ground! :)

[flyingdane]

The recommended specs state a Processor of 3ghz..

But what about the Duo Processors? :doh:

I have an Intel (R) Core(Tm) 2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86 Ghz (2 CPUs)

Will that work the same as a 3ghz Processor?

I also have 2GB of RAM and a 512 MB Video Card.

Thanks !

Duo Processors ? Only if they make it muiltythread commbatible.:lol:

[GakunGak]

I have P4 3.0 Ghz HT, 1GB RAM, Ati X1600Pro 512MB Agp and 250GB HDD... Is it enough to run SH4?:hmm:

[flyingdane]

In Short...YES" http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/flyingdane/thsmilie_winner1.gif

[GakunGak]

In Short...YES" http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/flyingdane/thsmilie_winner1.gif
Mommy....
Looks like I'm on active duty....:rock:

[flyingdane]

In Short...YES" http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/flyingdane/thsmilie_winner1.gif
Mommy....
Looks like I'm on active duty....:rock:

Well than get back to work! Seamen. :lol:

[flyingdane]

guys seriously, I'm dumb as a box of rocks when it come to computer guts. Can you tell me if sh4 will run good on my system.

p4 3ghz
radeon x1300 512mb
1gb of ram
other than the ram am I ok?

IT will but you have to remember this that x1300 is not for gameing..Its is one of the lowest ranked cards in that class....:damn:

[immortal44]

so if you can run sh3 gwx than you might be able to run sh4 on low-to med, settings. :damn:

I would guess high could run high-med, med could run med-low. Med SH4 will look better than high sh3.

Do we know if SH4 supports dual core (unlikely?) or dual monitors (nav map on one, con on the other :D).

[flintlock]

Do we know if SH4 supports dual core I haven't read any official information on whether or not SH4 shall support multithreading. My guess is not, simply because it's essentially the same engine as SH3, and if it now supported multithreading, Ubi's marketing deptartment would likely have advertised this tidbit.

[TDK1044]

Forum members with low to mid range systems can help themselves by closing down applications like virus scan and screensaver during the game. They will notice a big difference.

Also, I see people posting that they think they'll be fine because their graphics card has 512MB of RAM. The fact of the matter is that 256MB of RAM is more than adequate on a graphis card for this game and it's the speed of the card and the version of pixel shader supported that matters. My 256MB GeForce 7600GT card beats the pants off quite a few 512MB graphics cards I can think of.

[GakunGak]

Forum members with low to mid range systems can help themselves by closing down applications like virus scan and screensaver during the game. They will notice a big difference.

Also, I see people posting that they think they'll be fine because their graphics card has 512MB of RAM. The fact of the matter is that 256MB of RAM is more than adequate on a graphis card for this game and it's the speed of the card and the version of pixel shader supported that matters. My 256MB GeForce 7600GT card beats the pants off quite a few 512MB graphics cards I can think of.
Including mine X1600Pro? Just kidding...
What the hell, I just wanna be able to run it, no matter the details.....:smug:

[immortal44]

Forum members with low to mid range systems can help themselves by closing down applications like virus scan and screensaver during the game.

Great point. You can obviously shut stuff down using ctrl-alt-del but if anyone doesn't know you can edit startup by going to start-> run and type msconfig. Select selective startup, disable load startup items, then go to the services tab, select hide microsoft services, then select disable all. Press apply, then exit and restart. When the system restarts only essential programs will be loaded, freeing up as much cpu and memory as possible. This doesn't stop you from using applications, it just doesn't start them when you load windows.

[GakunGak]

Forum members with low to mid range systems can help themselves by closing down applications like virus scan and screensaver during the game.

Great point. You can obviously shut stuff down using ctrl-alt-del but if anyone doesn't know you can edit startup by going to start-> run and type msconfig. Select selective startup, disable load startup items, then go to the services tab, select hide microsoft services, then select disable all. Press apply, then exit and restart. When the system restarts only essential programs will be loaded, freeing up as much cpu and memory as possible. This doesn't stop you from using applications, it just doesn't start them when you load windows.
Or you could just unload Kaspersky....:|\\ :smug:
Kidding, good post...

[Magua]

Do we know if SH4 supports dual core I haven't read any official information on whether or not SH4 shall support multithreading. My guess is not, simply because it's essentially the same engine as SH3, and if it now supported multithreading, Ubi's marketing deptartment would likely have advertised this tidbit.

Ok..lets take the worse case scenario and assume there will be no multithreading.

What does that mean for us with Duo Core Processors like a C2D 1.86?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

set affinity for the game for both cores and/or overclock ive heard that 90% of the c2d 1.86 ghz can overclock to 2.8-3.0ghz !!!! but u have to have a gogod motherboard and good ram.

[GakunGak]

set affinity for the game for both cores and/or overclock ive heard that 90% of the c2d 1.86 ghz can overclock to 2.8-3.0ghz !!!! but u have to have a gogod motherboard and good ram.
I would not recommend messing with overclocking, instead wait for a patch that will fix this issue, if present!

[elite_hunter_sh3]

me being a hardware pro my advice is to be listened to :up:
pentium 4 used something called net burst architecture, where the cpu used long but small amount of pipelines, like for ex 1 long gas pipe thats very very wide in diameter, and used speed in hertz to counter the effects of only one pipeline, basically like a high pressure fat water pipe, now amd's 64 socket 939 whcih came out had much shorter pipelines but more of em and they didnt have to be such a fast speed thats when u see amd 64 athlons at 2-2.2 ghz beating pentium 4 extreme editions at 3.6ghz and faster. amd's 64 had much more pipelines which where lower speed and slimmer, thus they were cooler then the p4 prescott(notorious for high heat) and it didnt have to use much voltage to run. now Intels core 2 duo is similar, BUT there pipelines are fatter, more of them, and higher clocked, heat is still a problem but since they are using different ingredients (more $$$) they are a litle bit cooler) the c2d now outperforms the 64, THIS year AMD will be releasing their "barcelona' quad core which has a specially designed new architecture and for the first time in quad cores L3 cache, which helps alot in server processing and a 60% boost in gaming (AI computing, physics etc...) reviews have said barcelona wil run at high speeds will drainining a whopping 110 watts this is very VERY low for a quad core while intels use around 150-200 watts on full load. so hold your horses for c2d because barcelona will be here mid 07 and amd always releases every 2 years something that beats intel, intel released the pentium 4 to beat the amd athlon xp s462 line then amd released amd 64, staying ahead of intel for a few years, now intel releases c2d and amd releases osmetihng even better mid 07, c2d was jus a bump on the road, pentium 4 was a big achievement and when intel does that big achievement again then u can go nuts on intel cuz then intel will rule for a few years until amd releases something even better.

hope i helps

cheers

[Magua]

me being a hardware pro my advice is to be listened to :up:
pentium 4 used something called net burst architecture, where the cpu used long but small amount of pipelines, like for ex 1 long gas pipe thats very very wide in diameter, and used speed in hertz to counter the effects of only one pipeline, basically like a high pressure fat water pipe, now amd's 64 socket 939 whcih came out had much shorter pipelines but more of em and they didnt have to be such a fast speed thats when u see amd 64 athlons at 2-2.2 ghz beating pentium 4 extreme editions at 3.6ghz and faster. amd's 64 had much more pipelines which where lower speed and slimmer, thus they were cooler then the p4 prescott(notorious for high heat) and it didnt have to use much voltage to run. now Intels core 2 duo is similar, BUT there pipelines are fatter, more of them, and higher clocked, heat is still a problem but since they are using different ingredients (more $$$) they are a litle bit cooler) the c2d now outperforms the 64, THIS year AMD will be releasing their "barcelona' quad core which has a specially designed new architecture and for the first time in quad cores L3 cache, which helps alot in server processing and a 60% boost in gaming (AI computing, physics etc...) reviews have said barcelona wil run at high speeds will drainining a whopping 110 watts this is very VERY low for a quad core while intels use around 150-200 watts on full load. so hold your horses for c2d because barcelona will be here mid 07 and amd always releases every 2 years something that beats intel, intel released the pentium 4 to beat the amd athlon xp s462 line then amd released amd 64, staying ahead of intel for a few years, now intel releases c2d and amd releases osmetihng even better mid 07, c2d was jus a bump on the road, pentium 4 was a big achievement and when intel does that big achievement again then u can go nuts on intel cuz then intel will rule for a few years until amd releases something even better.

hope i helps

cheers

Thanks! .....but you lost me after "pentium4"....:oops:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

:damn::damn::damn:

IN SIMPLE TERMS HERE HOW CPUS GO im using water pipes (house pipes, pvc etc..) as an example

Pentium 4 : Long pipeline with faster water rate with only 1 pipe thats big in diameter (high flow rate)
AMD 64 Socket 939 and AM2 : 4 short pipelines with medium water rate and medium in diameter
Intel Core 2 Duo: 6 short pipelines with fast water rate and fat in diameter
AMD Quad core Barecelona (07): 16 short pipelines with uber fast rate and obese diameter

hope that helps if it doesnt then ill have to draw a pic and if i do i wont be a very happy member ;)

Amd baecelona uses L3 cache its a form of memory on the CPU chip directly inside the core, basically L3 = 8 pipes underground 8 pipes above ground effienctly almost doubling the processing power.

[flintlock]

What does that mean for us with Duo Core Processors like a C2D 1.86? I think it means you'll be pleasantly surprised by the performance of this powerful little processor, even if SH4 is a single-threaded app thanks to, among other things, its intelligent architecture. The E6300 is a serious little contender.

[GakunGak]

And what will it mean for us with P4 HT @3.0?:hmm:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

And what will it mean for us with P4 HT @3.0?:hmm:

lol god help u and ur cpu. i suggest save up asap sell ur comp and rebuild, or stick with it till summer 07 then get quad core barcelona and run sh4 on dx 10 with a 8800 or better

[elite_hunter_sh3]

u will be able to run but u will see peformance issues , stuttering, artifacts (cpu heat), lag on time compression, i get no time compression lag on 4096 it runs so smooth i can alt tab out of game on 4096 time compression and start up a movie and watch while my uboat is travelling to US east coast:arrgh!:

edit* then again i do have a socket F AMD quad core setup (2 amd fx 1207 pin fx74 cpus at 2.8ghz (each r dual core so 2+2=4 cores)

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=5738 my motherboard

and 2 of these http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=5851

as u can see very expensive stuff $$ but it pays off in the end.

[flintlock]

And what will it mean for us with P4 HT @3.0?:hmm: If the system specs listed on subsim are correct, your processor is above the minimum and lands right at the recommended specs threshold. That's a good thing, however, my experience has been to try and maintain a comfortable distance above the recommended specs if I desire the best possible gaming experience. While no longerr cutting-edge technology processor wise, you still look to be in decent shape. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

what aboot quad core :arrgh!::arrgh!:?

[flintlock]

Nevermind, I read your powerhouse system specs in the other thread. ;)

[immortal44]

as u can see very expensive stuff $$ but it pays off in the end.

Not for sh4 it won't, not to mention you can massively overclock cheaper hardware to get similar performance. You just sound like some elitist who just has to have the best of everything. I noticed you basically laughed at someone else while bragging about your future rig.

[TDK1044]

My system meets recommended specs in all areas for SH4. However, I ran SH3 on a system just above minimum specs and the only problem I encountered was with high levels of TC and a little stuttering if a very large convoy was encountered.

Don't buy into the nonsense about needing a super computer to play and enjoy SH4. If you have a decent mid range video card, a P4 3.0 processor and 1 GIG of RAM, the game will run perfectly well for you.

The largest demographic for this game is you and others like you with mid range systems, and not elite_hunter_sh3.

[Ark]

My SHIV rig I'm building:

C2D E6600 (Watercooled)
Intel Bad Axe 2 Mobo (NB Watercooled)
Evga 8800GTX 768mb
2GB Crucial Ballistix (PC8000)
SB Fatality X-FI Sound Card
150GB WD Raptor


It's a sub game, so you gotta have watercooling. :arrgh!:

[GakunGak]

My SHIV rig I'm building:

C2D E6600 (Watercooled)
Intel Bad Axe 2 Mobo (NB Watercooled)
Evga 8800GTX 768mb
2GB Crucial Ballistix (PC8000)
SB Fatality X-FI Sound Card
150GB WD Raptor


It's a sub game, so you gotta have watercooling. :arrgh!:
Will it have a nuclear reactor?:rock:

[Ark]

My SHIV rig I'm building:

C2D E6600 (Watercooled)
Intel Bad Axe 2 Mobo (NB Watercooled)
Evga 8800GTX 768mb
2GB Crucial Ballistix (PC8000)
SB Fatality X-FI Sound Card
150GB WD Raptor


It's a sub game, so you gotta have watercooling. :arrgh!:
Will it have a nuclear reactor?:rock:


Maybe.

Diesel would prob. cloud up my computer room. :hmm:

[GakunGak]

Still you could use the batteries and switch to nuke when they're sucked dry...:smug:

[NEON DEON]

My computer is 3.5 years old now and reaching the end of its useful life.

I suspect this will be the last year I will be able to run new 3d PC games.

System specs::cry: :cry:

AMD Athlon 2400+
1 gig ddr ram
Radeon 9600XT 256mb (uses very little power)
On board sound thru a via chipset (worked on every game I have purchased in the last 3 years)
Antec True Power 380w PS and enogh fans to turn my box into a hover craft when turned on it's side;)

Hopefully I will still have enough power to run SHIV as I have no problems with SHIII.

[THE_MASK]

I have decided that my system will not run SH4 as i would want it graphically and i am not going to buy SH4 or upgrade my computer until UBI decide yay or nay on a DX10 patch for SH4 . DX10 graphics cards/motherboards/ + cpu/etc will not be cheap . I will wait :yep: :yep: :yep:

[Boris]

It'll run on an Xbox right? I've already pre-ordered it because I was pretty sure, but just checking.

[GakunGak]

It'll run on an Xbox right? I've already pre-ordered it because I was pretty sure, but just checking.
SH4 on XBox???!!!
I must be drunk...:doh:
PC Games rulez!!!:rock:

[Seeadler]

SH4 on XBox???!!!
nothing is impossible, look::ping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJqy-93yo20&mode=related&search=

[Boris]

:rotfl:Xboxes are for noobs

[Mooncatt]

im little worried i have an ATi x700 256 agp card and i cant find what pixel shader it has and how well it will run sh4. can anyone help please?

[Boris]

X700s support up to pixel shader 2.0b.

As for how well it will run, hard to say since the game isn't out yet. It is an x700 pro or XT? It's somewhere in the range of being on par with a Geforce 6600, if it's an XT model a bit better. That's not too shabby, but don't expect to run the game at full settings.

[TDK1044]

im little worried i have an ATi x700 256 agp card and i cant find what pixel shader it has and how well it will run sh4. can anyone help please?

The Ati website should have the answer. However, an overview would be:

Version 2.0x (DirectX 9.0) comprises of two versions - Version 2.0a (for NVidia GeForce FX series) and version 2.0b (for ATI Radeon X700/X800/X850 series).

Version 3.0 (DirectX 9.0c)
NVidia GeForce 6 Series
NVidia GeForce 7 Series
ATI Radeon X1K series

Your X700 card is also the AGP version, which makes it slower than a PCI-e card. This card will run SH4, but with reduced graphics settings and the game will stutter a fair bit, depending on other features such as RAM and processor speed..

[Boris]

SH3 was quite processor reliant, as compared to other games.

[Mooncatt]

X700s support up to pixel shader 2.0b.

As for how well it will run, hard to say since the game isn't out yet. It is an x700 pro or XT? It's somewhere in the range of being on par with a Geforce 6600, if it's an XT model a bit better. That's not too shabby, but don't expect to run the game at full settings.

its a x700 256pro hybrid sapphire. i have 1.5gb ram and p4 processor. it runs sh3 fine get about 30fps usually

[TDK1044]

RAM is good. P4 is OK if it's 3.0 or higher.

[Ark]

Still you could use the batteries and switch to nuke when they're sucked dry...:smug:

Hahahaha :arrgh!: