SHIV limited exclusive pre-order

[Hueywolf123]

Nope, not for those of us who do not reside in the US or Canada, bad luck? No, just plain stpidity, as any other site that sells merchandise is set up for most countries, and will ship to most. Ubi have decided to only release the edition with all the goodies to the US and Canadian citizens.
Why did they bother asking us what we wanted in the box then? Or does somebody here know more

[stabiz]

This reeks of arrogance if true. (I know its true that at the moment only US and Canadians can preorder, but it MUST be a mistake)

As you have pointed out Huey, why the **** set up a big "What do you want?"-thingy if only selected parts of the world would benefit? I wouldnt have bothered voting if I knew there would be no chanse for me getting my mits on it.

Oh, and talk about alienating alot of the fanbase ... almost the entire world!

[Deep-Six]

To make you guys feel better, I wont preorder. I dont have the money to do that.

[FIREWALL]

Don't fell to badly guys. I for got my username and password on ubi so
tried to open a new login acct. on different email address and it wouldn't
accept new password. Kept giveing me password error in red. Gave up .

ps. Got the problem solved but after alittle thought didn't preorder.

edit: I also don't understand if a limited special edition is $49.99 what is a plain jane going to cost ? If it's the same price or alittle less for less stuff that should come in the game re: manuals , maps they just lost a customer. I don't need any game that bad. :nope: These are my feelings on the matter as after reading alot of posts from supportive ubi kaleuns that
won't get a shot at a limited edition because of shipping policies. Ive always beleived in fair play and this situation isn't right. I can easily afford the limited game but, not at the expence of my dignity.

[Tuddley3]

Huey, lets wear the DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT FROM UBISOFT!
SH4 PRE-ORDERS FOR THE WHOLE WORLD NOW! in our sigs here too :up:

[donut]

<You don´t need to post that in three different threads - Gizzmoe>

[donut]

BDU.censorship in SHIV, Your not allowed to have even a humble opinion more than once. Shut my face:doh:

[elanaiba]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the European Edition of SH4 will contain all the goodies (perhaps minus the documentary) by default.

[Gizzmoe]

BDU.censorship in SHIV, Your not allowed to have even a humble opinion more than once. Shut my face:doh:
You´d voiced your opinion in the original thread, there´s no need to copy/paste the same post in two other threads.

[Potoroo]

Nope, not for those of us who do not reside in the US or Canada, bad luck? No, just plain stpidity, as any other site that sells merchandise is set up for most countries, and will ship to most. Ubi have decided to only release the edition with all the goodies to the US and Canadian citizens.
Why did they bother asking us what we wanted in the box then? Or does somebody here know more
Hey, Huey - you obviously haven't read my last post in the SH4 Packaging Info thread.

The Good News: people in Australia can pre-order one of two SH4 packages from GamesWarehouse, one for $79.95 (http://www.gameswarehouse.com.au/longpage.asp?gameid=13911) and the Collector's Edition for $89.95 (http://www.gameswarehouse.com.au/longpage.asp?gameid=13990). But at least we get to pre-order something, unlike SH3.

And we get a pen!
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~simpsond/images/SH4%20pen.jpg

The Bad News: I've asked GamesWarehouse to clarify with their supplier but we seem to be getting packaging more like the European release than the US release, except we don't have the option of the "Super Collector's Edition" because we don't have an Ubisoft online store. So we're only getting somewhat shafted instead of totally.

[TDK1044]

I think there will probably be a limited edition version of the game for the US, Europe and Australia. The contents might differ slightly but that's not uncommon in game marketing.

I think Ubisoft are concentrating more on the US market this time in the hope of selling more games in the US due to the fact that the game features a US sub.

Without getting into anything heavy here, it is a fact that some American consumers would not buy a game that places them as a German U Boat captain, but they would be happy purchasing SH4. The Limited Edtion with its extra goodies is to a degree targeted at those people.

[Potoroo]

I think there will probably be a limited edition version of the game for the US, Europe and Australia. The contents might differ slightly but that's not uncommon in game marketing.

I think Ubisoft are concentrating more on the US market this time in the hope of selling more games in the US due to the fact that the game features a US sub... The Limited Edtion with its extra goodies is to a degree targeted at those people.
There's more than one issue here. Some time back on the Ubi forum a user called AudibleKnight popped up and announced that he was a SH Community Manager and invited us to both ask questions about the game to be submitted to the developers and what sort of goodies did we want in the box? So we all gleefully jumped in and contributed our collective 2c.

More recently, of course, it transpired that the Ubi US online shop was accepting pre-orders for SH4 and AudibleKnight announced the contents. The problem was that the Ubi US store won't sell outside the US/Canada, so the first issue was why were the rest of us being treated so shabbily. When the fecal matter hit the rotating blades AudibleKnight suddenly announced that he was in fact the US SH Community Manager and that his announcements only applied to the US/Canada, giving rise to the second issue, mentioned by Huey but probably without the necessary context in this forum, why the hell did he invite us to contribute our ideas and desires about the goodies pack when we apparently weren't going to get any.

Now some sort of European package has appeared on the German Ubi site, although it seems you still can't pre-order anything on the Ubi UK online store. Moreover, as I pointed out to Huey, although this time it seems Australian Kaleuns can pre-order something we still don't get the option of the Super Collector's Edition because Ubi won't sell to us. If we seem a bit tender on the subject it's at least in part because we got overlooked when SH3 was released, not to mention the subject of general fairness.

I understand your point about the American market probably being more receptive to a game featuring US subs, but I would remind Ubi that we're in the Pacific too (Cairns in NE Aus. was a large sub base in WWII). So perhaps we have a teensy weensy interest in the subject ourselves. And we even have credit cards (if only Ubi would allow us to use them).

[StandingCow]

Seems like things are getting overly complicated. Just release the same thing for all areas so people know exactly what they are getting.. also you avoid one group of people saying they got the shaft.

[Safe-Keeper]

My brother's girlfriend lives in Houson, so I suppose I could order it to her address and have her mail it from her house to mine...

But I don't think I'll be pre-ordering anyhow, so that's a no-go;).

[Iron Budokan]

Jeez, that's not right you guys can't get the same package as us. I don't understand the reasoning behind it....?

[Sailor Steve]

Jeez, that's not right you guys can't get the same package as us. I don't understand the reasoning behind it....?
Neither can I; especially since UBIsoft is based in France.

[Potoroo]

Jeez, that's not right you guys can't get the same package as us. I don't understand the reasoning behind it....?
I've had some feedback from GamesWarehouse and it's now all but confirmed the Australian CE is the same as the European CE which means only the US/Canada are getting the WWII sub documentary (replaced by a "Soundtrack CD"). How stupid is that? Some marketing idiot undoubtedly decided that enthusiasts of strategic simulations outside the US/Canada who would buy a Collector's Edition wouldn't be interested in a documentary on US WWII submarines!

If, and I stress if because no details have yet been released, the European Super CE includes the documantary then we'll still miss out because Ubisoft won't sell to us.

I am seriously annoyed now. I wanted the doco.

[hyperion2206]

Jeez, that's not right you guys can't get the same package as us. I don't understand the reasoning behind it....? I've had some feedback from GamesWarehouse and it's now all but confirmed the Australian CE is the same as the European CE which means only the US/Canada are getting the WWII sub documentary (replaced by a "Soundtrack CD"). How stupid is that? Some marketing idiot undoubtedly decided that enthusiasts of strategic simulations outside the US/Canada who would buy a Collector's Edition wouldn't be interested in a documentary on US WWII submarines!

If, and I stress if because no details have yet been released, the European Super CE includes the documantary then we'll still miss out because Ubisoft won't sell to us.

I am seriously annoyed now. I wanted the doco.


That's really annoying! Who in his right mind believes that one wants to get a soundtrack cd rather than a documentary? If that's true Ubisoft has screwed up!:nope:

[TDK1044]

This may be to do with Ubisoft not being able to clear the documentary footage for use outside of North America. If you think about it, it would be so much easier for them to make the 'limited edition' the same for everyone, why would Ubisoft give themselves a headache over this?

My guess is that the footage is cleared for North American sales only.

[The General]

They're just chasing the allmighty buck! You would too if you had their overheads. Don't worry SH4 will invade Europe soon enough!

:know:

[Boris]

It's invading europe at pretty much the same time...

But I'm not worried about the doco... a soundtrack CD is pretty cool too. Someone can always rip the doco and make it available for download.

[fire-fox]

well, a sound track CD is a lazy option as its just going to be the same .wav or mp3's that are in the game any way. copy them to a cd and bang instant "Collectors Edish":)

[Potoroo]

This may be to do with Ubisoft not being able to clear the documentary footage for use outside of North America. If you think about it, it would be so much easier for them to make the 'limited edition' the same for everyone, why would Ubisoft give themselves a headache over this?

My guess is that the footage is cleared for North American sales only.
I don't believe that. Periscope Films would only benefit from the royalties from non-American sales and their increased exposure thereof. As it is they'll lose now because it will be pirated outside the US/Canada. It's not like it's hard to distribute a documentary internationally.

I'm prepared to believe it's an Ubisoft stuff-up. It's not like it would be the first time. There's actually no reason to have both European and US editions of SH4 in the first place. It was necessary to have different skins for SH3 because of the German laws against displaying the swastika in games but that doesn't apply to the Rising Sun. And since most TV/DVD etc systems outside the US are multi-system (PAL + NTSC + SECAM) there's no technical obstacle just because the documentary will undoubtedly be in NTSC format.

[Konovalov]

I've just read this thread and can say that after having a bad morning at work I am now near suicidal thanks to this bad news. :damn: :lol:

[Respenus]

:damn::damn::damn:

We'll, atleast we'll have the "Special Edition" of SH4 in Europe, the normal package + the limited "first sales" add-ons.

As someone else pointed out, UBI is a French company. And they neglect their own people. Shame on them. Really. I had though different of the French.

[TDK1044]

[/quote]
I don't believe that. Periscope Films would only benefit from the royalties from non-American sales and their increased exposure thereof. As it is they'll lose now because it will be pirated outside the US/Canada. It's not like it's hard to distribute a documentary internationally.

I'm prepared to believe it's an Ubisoft stuff-up. It's not like it would be the first time. There's actually no reason to have both European and US editions of SH4 in the first place. It was necessary to have different skins for SH3 because of the German laws against displaying the swastika in games but that doesn't apply to the Rising Sun. And since most TV/DVD etc systems outside the US are multi-system (PAL + NTSC + SECAM) there's no technical obstacle just because the documentary will undoubtedly be in NTSC format.[/quote]


We can all go on speculating. In the end, it is what it is. For whatever reason, the US/Canadian version has the documentary and the European/Austrailian version doesn't.

I don't know the reason for the decision, but I can't see anything changing in the weeks leading up to the game's release.

There has to be a reason for the different versions, because no company wants to give itself more merchandising work to do in releasing a game. Only Ubisoft know the real reason for the decision.

[fire-fox]

i bet it gets put on youtube within a month.:D

[TDK1044]

As long as I get the game plus the user manual, a quick reference card and a
nice Recognition Manual I'm happy.

[AG124]

Aside from the game itself of course, the contents that interest me the most are the recognition manual and the Pacific map. And I would be willing to buy the ealry edition to get these - I doubt they will come with the later one (maybe a smaller version of the map).

[bookworm_020]

I've Pre-ordered the Limited adition (Australian) today. I will be looking forward to seeing the game. Can't wait!!!