Watch out smokers in Europe

[STEED]

Europe-wide smoking ban proposed (http://www.itv.com/news/world_582bfe2d7b7506331e9859add1954ca0.html)


PS: I don't smoke.

[danlisa]

I do!

However, I can live with it as long as employers etc don't take it too far/literally. For example, my employer is saying that they propose to make the entire site a no-smoking area. I can understand that smoking indoors is banned but to ban smoking in an exposed area (read outdoors) is going too far.

Anywho, I've done research......

Smoking Ban – the Department of Health has consulted on the rules governing smoking in the workplace. The draft rules mean that all work premises must be smoke free if enclosed or "substantially enclosed".
http://www.osborneclarke.com/news/7848_news.asp

[Letum]

Jolly good! :up:

No one should have to give up theit job because their health is being dammaged by smokers in the workplace. Especialy if they have lung problems.

(I'm a ex-pipe-smoker)

[jumpy]

When it comes right down to it why don't we just scrap tha sale of tobaco for good?
We know it's baad mm'kay... so why not?
Ofcourse, I have the right to choose to smoke and make an informed decision etc.... but is this not about revenue and taxation at the end of the day?
I used to enjoy a cigarette, and have packed it in several times over the years. When I turned 30 I decided that that was it, no more smoking- quit cold turkey as it were, the other half is still on the patches and is finding it really hard. What I found most difficult was not smoking around someone you live with who was always puffing away, or smoking down the pub... but now you can't do that anymore :cry:

I haven't bought a packet of fags or rolling tobacco for abut 8 months now.

[The Noob]

Finally! :up:

[Safe-Keeper]

The article apparently missed that Norway has long since banned smoking in public places, too;). Bah, we're always overlooked until we do something crazy.

But yes, it's a great initiative and it works really well. I see no problem with it.

[snowsub]

having a worksite ban on smoking has been around in Australia for a few years now, workers just go outside the site fence to smoke, and good employers will set up seats outside they're site so smokers have a place to go.

We also have a 4m exclusion zone from entraces to building there no smokings' allowed.

You can't smoke in pubs (for years now) and even outdoors you can't smoke in an area where food will be served.
You can't smoke in buildings/malls etc and not smoking in a public place (ie the CDB centre pedestrian mall) is being pushed to be implemented.

And do I think it's made a big hit on total smokes sold... probably not

[bookworm_020]

Smoking rates in Australia have been declining (smokers are a dieing breed??:hmm:). This has been helped by a ban on advertising, Ad campains, Quit programs set up by the state and federal governments and allowing promotion of nicotine replacement products on TV. This was on top of the the bans mentioned in the above post.

Now one of the political parties youth groups want to allow advertising for tobacco again.:o Can someone please go and knock some sense into these loonies!:stare: I reckon that they got a donation on the sly from big tobacco!:nope:

[Safe-Keeper]

We also have a 4m exclusion zone from entraces to building there no smokings' allowed.We have that at my school. You're supposed to smoke at the corner ten metres away, but everyone stand at the entrance stumping their cigarettes on the ground. Rather disgusting.

[waste gate]

When smoking is abolished what will governments do to re-coup the tax money lost?

Look out your vehicles, alchoholic beverages, public transportation, internet access is about to feel the pain.

[Sailor Steve]

After the little problem with trying to ban alcohol back in '18, the US government might be a little leary of an outright smoking ban.

Fast foods, on the other hand...:nope:

[waste gate]

After the little problem with trying to ban alcohol back in '18, the US government might be a little leary of an outright smoking ban.

Fast foods, on the other hand...:nope:

The do gooders have learned the lesson of the Volstead Act. Now the 'scientists' are involved. Much like the global warming sham.

[Tchocky]

Dang do-gooders! How dare they do good :p

The Irish ban has been a success, very little hassle. If any pubs say they'll go out of business, they're lying, it didnt happen at home, and we've got more pubs than most of ye :)

Don't ban smoking outright, though. Too far

[waste gate]

Dang do-gooders! How dare they do good :p



I guess, what is good for them (the do gooders) isn't necessarily good for everyone or even the majority in the long run.

Much like me telling you and taking a vote as to weather it is better to be a christian or a muslim or a hindu or a taoist or a jew or a ...... you pick the topic. What happened to free choice?

Before you say that people working around smoke are at risk, they also have a choice as to work under conditions which they may or may not think is undesirable.

[Tchocky]

Before you say that people working around smoke are at risk, they also have a choice as to work under conditions which they may or may not think is undesirable.
The personal habits of coworkers aren't a valid reason to stop someone taking a job.
No-one's health should be put at unnecessary risk because a coworker won't take it outside. A workplace smoking ban is there to protect the health of workers, simple as that. Smokers don't have the choice to damage the health of coworkers, nor should they.

And I was poking fun at the word "do-gooders", I love it that the English language can turn a 100% positive pair of words into a slur :)

[baggygreen]

having a worksite ban on smoking has been around in Australia for a few years now, workers just go outside the site fence to smoke, and good employers will set up seats outside they're site so smokers have a place to go.

We also have a 4m exclusion zone from entraces to building there no smokings' allowed.

You can't smoke in pubs (for years now) and even outdoors you can't smoke in an area where food will be served.
You can't smoke in buildings/malls etc and not smoking in a public place (ie the CDB centre pedestrian mall) is being pushed to be implemented.

And do I think it's made a big hit on total smokes sold... probably not

well mate, in canberra we've only enjoyed clean air in nightclubs and pubs for precisely 2 months. problem is, now we smell all the unwashed souls....:down:

[Spoon 11th]

Well ahead of the less sophisticated countries. Smoking in public places was banned in Finland in 1977. Advertising was banned in 1978.

[Chaotic42]

I give it 10 years before smoking is outright illegal in the US.

[The Avon Lady]

This is good news.

Our worst smoking experiences have been in European airports. Absoluetly sickening.

BTW, here in Israel, the situation is pathetic. It has been made absolutely illegal to smoke in public and work places, etc., but there's no enforcement. So you can go to restaurants and they'll still have a smoking area that ruins the air for everyone else. Or you can go to any mall, with signs up all over clearly forbidding smoking, with people puffing away at their leisure and policemen will pass by without even thinking of telling the smokers off, let alone give them a summons. :damn:

[HunterICX]

Weird, in fact you're lungs getting more damaged when stuck in the traffic on a hot sunny day with the window open then sitting next to a smoker for a year. and living in a big city is even more damaging for ur lungs so those people have to shut up about someone who smokes. if you want to have healthy lungs go live far away in the nature. Petrol/Diesel fumes does a lot of damage, wanna test it? go sit in the smoke of a cigarette for 1 min after that go sit behind a Autobus that runs diesel.
you will notice the difference.

what the governement is doing now is just teasing the smokers. because if they want to ban it. they have to close all the fabrics and give big fines to shop whoever tries to sell them from under the desk. but then they go

''Darn, there goes our taxes income......''

well lets raise the normal taxes to regain the lost money spend on cigarettes.

Just ban it immediatly so you CANT buy cigarettes, but stop that stupid teasing.

:|\\ time for a smoke

[Frenssen]

It`s great for a non smoker to be able to go out a saturday night without all that smoke. The downside is all the body odours and cheap perfumes you couldn`t smell before the new law was enforced;)
Here in Norway the law has worked surprisingly well. The smokers go outside even when they are under the influence of alcohol. Not so sure it will work so well in all other countries. We are so obedient to authorities in this country it`s laughable:down: