silent hunter 3 and vista update to all pleasse read!!!!!!

[Lt commander lare]

this is lt commander lare to all members of the silent hunter 3 community silent hunter 3 works fine on vista as long as you dont patch the system you play it as you just bought it do not patch it and it will work fine the patch has something of starforce in it and that what the problem is i know alot of you including me like silent hunter commander but for now i guess im just glad to be able to play silent hunter 3 no matter what i did not want a vista yet but my computer got fried and best buy said the xp machines were all sent back so i had to take vista i hope this news helps someone and hopefully there will be a patch so we can patch silent hunter 3 the right way with no problems

lt commander lare

[JU_88]

Really, if I had vista right now i would still keep XP on another drive or partion and have duel boot, MS operating systems are a nightmare for the first 6 months to 1 year of their release - this a fact. My advice is dont be too hasty to ditch XP all together just yet.
Why only have one when you can have both?

[Gezoes]

Ok, I can't read that. It needs some periods first :doh:

As far as Vista goes, I'll wait at least 1,5 years just as I did when XP came out. Leaks, patches, updates... oh well, you know. The usual Microsoft way ;)

[STEED]

As far as Vista goes, I'll wait at least 1,5 years just as I did when XP came out. Leaks, patches, updates... oh well, you know. The usual Microsoft way ;)

Spot on Vista is a hackers paradise at the moment more holes in it than a leaky bucket, wait and be patience. ;)

[Lt commander lare]

i cant wait they kept my old computer and i now have vista like i said it wasnt my choice so im stuck with it i will make the best of it for now

lt commander lare

[Mooncatt]

i aint buying vista for a t least a year. i like to wait and see others reviews of it first.

[irish1958]

LtCmdr,
Try this:
Install SHIII on your new machine, using the DVD that does not contain Star-Farce and then install and patch to 1.4b on an XP machine of one of your friends.
Run the Star-Farce removal tool.
Copy that Data folder to your Vista machine after you delete the data file from the Vista machine.
Install GWX.

[RDDR]

Everyone has lots of time before needing to have Vista.
There will be huge firms,small firms and other business's around the globe that will continue to use XP until Vista is proven itself and is unbugged .That, is most certainly going to take some time with numerous fix's and service packs.
It's the little guy like me and you that can get hurt installing a brand new OS. Especially gamers. I have a number of titles sitting on my shelf that will not run on XP.Some of them not that old,so be careful.
If you were supervising a whole integrated system for your company would you switch over to Vista next week or next month? Not if you valued your job and wanted to keep it.
I do believe that Microsoft is offering inititives to computer companies to load the Vista OS on new machines for sure.Someone has to be the guinnypig.I think if one has a machine with just the home basics it will probably be ok for now, but other than that watch out.Vista is definitely going to go through it's growing pains.Just like Windows 95,98,2000,and XP.Hopefully,all for the best.:D

[mookiemookie]

Really, if I had vista right now i would still keep XP on another drive or partion and have duel boot, MS operating systems are a nightmare for the first 6 months to 1 year of their release - this a fact. My advice is dont be too hasty to ditch XP all together just yet.
Why only have one when you can have both?

Because if you purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation.

[Lt commander lare]

my pc is straight out of the box with vista already installed i dont have my original pc and i dont know anyone that can help me because i dont have anyone around me that has a a computer at this moment silent hunter 3 is working fine without the patch granted i would like the patch but i will play silent hunter 4 on my new vista when thats released i have had my really fun times with silent hunter 3 already

lt commander lare

[Lt commander lare]

how do i get silent hunter 3 the dvd version without star force on it i have the game from when it first came out if i buy the game from best buy today will it have star force on it and if not am i ok to patch and play it like i did on windows xp

lt commander lare

[digitizedsoul]

works great for me on vista... for more details look at my post in the sh4 forum about it..

[JU_88]

Really, if I had vista right now i would still keep XP on another drive or partion and have duel boot, MS operating systems are a nightmare for the first 6 months to 1 year of their release - this a fact. My advice is dont be too hasty to ditch XP all together just yet.
Why only have one when you can have both?

Because if you purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation.

Then Im sorry to say -thats what you get for purchasing crappy upgrade disks - they are too much hassle in the long run, for example; have you tried installing win98 on modern machine (with SATA drives) then upgrading to XP? Its no fun believe me.
Always get the full version, or you will regret it later on. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Just like prior to the initial launch of XP there are countless people out there doing 'the business' on Vista. :yep:
Have a little patience and let it 'settle in' first just like XP did :yep:
You'll be much better off in the long run :up:

[Elder-Pirate]

Vista should have been named "Swiss Cheese" with all the holes in it. Really I think ole "Bill" just wants MORE $. :roll:

[Hartmann]

i will install vista, but not before one to two years. after patches and service packs.

also the required hardware could be cheaper than now.

[fredbass]

From what I've read Vista really doesn't have a too many holes. But there is a service pack being created which will be released sometime this year. Remember, this version took 5 years to make and they used 5 million beta testers as well, so it should be in pretty good shape already.

The reason I'm waiting a while is so the hardware and software companies have some time to catch up to Vista, then I'll jump in.

[GT182]

Vista is a DRM nightmare. If a piece of sofware hasn't been approved by Bill and Company, it won't run on Vista. So, I believe most all of your freeware is now useless.

I won't touch Vista, not even with a 10 foot pole. I've got my "full blown" legal copy of XP on CD. And I can reformat any computer, I have to buy that's unlucky to come with Vista, and go back to XP. :D I'll keep on building my own computer instead of buying them prescrewed up. ;) I can do a fine job of screwing one up all by myself for less money. LOL

[Elder-Pirate]

Vista is a DRM nightmare. If a piece of sofware hasn't been approved by Bill and Company, it won't run on Vista. So, I believe most all of your freeware is now useless.

I won't touch Vista, not even with a 10 foot pole. I've got my "full blown" legal copy of XP on CD. And I can reformat any computer, I have to buy that's unlucky to come with Vista, and go back to XP. :D I'll keep on building my own computer instead of buying them prescrewed up. ;) I can do a fine job of screwing one up all by myself for less money. LOL

I may be wrong on this ( sure hope so :-? ) but I heard that if you needed to reformat Vista that you only had so many times and you would then have to repurchase it again. :cry:

[mookiemookie]

Vista is a DRM nightmare. If a piece of sofware hasn't been approved by Bill and Company, it won't run on Vista. So, I believe most all of your freeware is now useless.

I won't touch Vista, not even with a 10 foot pole. I've got my "full blown" legal copy of XP on CD. And I can reformat any computer, I have to buy that's unlucky to come with Vista, and go back to XP. :D I'll keep on building my own computer instead of buying them prescrewed up. ;) I can do a fine job of screwing one up all by myself for less money. LOL

:up::yep: Quoted for truth!

[Madox58]

Biggest thing about New "Store Bought" systems is they have SO MUCH crap
on them!

Kinda like buying a new Dodge Viper 12 cylinder with sand in 6 cylinders!!

[Gizzmoe]

If a piece of sofware hasn't been approved by Bill and Company, it won't run on Vista. So, I believe most all of your freeware is now useless.
No, there are no such general restrictions.

[JScones]

Vista is a DRM nightmare. If a piece of sofware hasn't been approved by Bill and Company, it won't run on Vista. So, I believe most all of your freeware is now useless.

I won't touch Vista, not even with a 10 foot pole. I've got my "full blown" legal copy of XP on CD. And I can reformat any computer, I have to buy that's unlucky to come with Vista, and go back to XP. :D I'll keep on building my own computer instead of buying them prescrewed up. ;) I can do a fine job of screwing one up all by myself for less money. LOL
There may be problems for applications that write data (especially to non-standard locations) or are permissions based, but I am not aware of any blanket exceptions.

Indeed, SH3Cmdr works happily on Vista, Likewise all my software. :smug:

FWIW though, I'll be waiting until at least SP1 before I install it on my primary-use computer. ;)

[RDDR]

This is nothing new is it?
It's just going to take a little time for the kinks to get ironed out.
The only option you have,and it's a couple of hours work for new pc owners who want to play SH3 with mods is to re format back to XP during this period of time and your good to go.Re formatting is not a big deal really,just a little time consuming but the XP disc is pretty user friendly.
I had some real problems with SH3 in the beginning.Lost a really good DVD burner which had to be replaced because of you know what...Had to buy a new copy of SH and along the way got a lot of help from the community to get up and running again.
Because of my problem which was a little different, I ended up having to re format,but the end result was that I learned from this bad experience and it's all behind me now.
Getting a new rig next week.Already I'm backing up everything on disc but the kitchen sink and most certainly will have to re format but I've gotten through the learning curve and hopefully the problems I had will now be a thing of the past.
"Knock on Wood":D

[GT182]

No, there are no such general restrictions.

You'd best check deeper, there are restrictions. There are many things that are not Vista compatable... certain antivirus programs are only a part of what can be restricted. That's why there is a compatability check with an inplace upgrade.

Also, here's info on upgrading if you take the plunge.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2082979,00.asp

And this for those that build your own computers.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2031283,00.asp

Plus the Piracy Issue .
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2088719,00.asp

And last of all. This might hurt a bit. ;)
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12314

[Gizzmoe]

No, there are no such general restrictions.
You'd best check deeper, there are restrictions. There are many things that are not Vista compatable... certain antivirus programs are only a part of what can be restricted. That's why there is a compatability check with an inplace upgrade.
Of course there are certain restrictions/limitations, but they are nowhere near as severe as your "If a piece of sofware hasn't been approved by Bill and Company, it won't run on Vista. So, I believe most all of your freeware is now useless." What you said is simply not correct, it´s far from the truth. There are tons of applications and games that work fine on Vista and that were not approved/certified by Microsoft. Some need to the updated, but that´s nothing special, we had the same situation when people moved from Win98 to 2000/XP or even just from XP SP1 to SP2.

[dean_acheson]

Download updates for StarForce Protection driver
This problem was caused by a compatibility issue between Windows Vista and this version of StarForce Protection driver. This program was created by StarForce Technologies.
An update is available that solves this problem.
Solution

http://wer.microsoft.com/Responses/include/images/check.gif Get the StarForce Protection driver update from the StarForce Technologies (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkID=65910) website.


this is what I get.............

[High Voltage]

MAC OSX all the way Baby!!!:rock::rock:
no viruses, no corrupted files, no "Beta" versions that force you to shell out 300$ for a half-assed program: yeah, that's right, i'm looking at you Ubisoft:down::down:

[Gizzmoe]

this is what I get.............

Have you tried the driver update? Does it work?

[dean_acheson]

The starforce site says it is vista compatable, but the update doesn't seem to solve any of my problems.

The game won't load b/c of starforce.

The SF removal tool doesn't seem to help.

I'm at a total loss. I've loaded and reloaded SH3 a few times now.

Ugh. How depressing.

[dean_acheson]

http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=83&id=1036

[dean_acheson]

the starforce site says it works, but it doesn't....

[corvette k225]

I was in the great northwest last week, and there is every strong talk that Google is thinking on comming out with a OS for coumpters sometime in 2008!!:p :p watch out Bill!!!:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Warmonger]

Hasta la vista, baby!

[dean_acheson]

Ok. Here goes.

Start with a fresh install of SH3.

Install the SF driver removal patch, restart computer.

Install the new SF patch, restart computer.

SH3 works, but can't be patched. Something is wrong with my campaign file, so no patch, and no GWX.

What a long day.

[JU_88]

MAC OSX all the way Baby!!!:rock::rock:
no viruses, no corrupted files, no "Beta" versions that force you to shell out 300$ for a half-assed program: yeah, that's right, i'm looking at you Ubisoft:down::down:

And no games either....... :down:

[Jimbuna]

Hasta la vista, baby!

:roll: :rotfl:
It would be nice to see some serious competition for MS :yep:

[COWBOY10]

Really, if I had vista right now i would still keep XP on another drive or partion and have duel boot, MS operating systems are a nightmare for the first 6 months to 1 year of their release - this a fact. My advice is dont be too hasty to ditch XP all together just yet.
Why only have one when you can have both?

Because if you purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation.

mmm Not quite true, I got the upgrade disk since it was half the price as normal vista. It asks you for a XP disk to confirm you have it, BUT it also offers you the option of a full install, Hence I now have a Duel boot system with my old XP and New Vista so i can check games and drivers as it goes, at the mo not many probs and oh yes, Check my new post as i have discovered how to install SH3, patched to 1.4b and with Sh3 commander and GWX running, it looks and Runs great.

[dean_acheson]

cowboy, trying your method now.

[Gizzmoe]

Thread closed. Please try the method described in this (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105144) thread and continue the discussion there.