Hillary Clinton can't sing the national anthem. The shame!

[TteFAboB]

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0%2C22049%2C21131596-5001021%2C00.html

Every good communist must be able to sing the people's patriotic songs. And if they must be able to do it while they starve to death during the great leap backwards or die at the gulags, there's no excuse to get it wrong in the comfort of America. So, Hillarry Clinton is a bad communist. The place of this enemy of the people is not in presidency, but at the re-education camp.

:arrgh!:

[MadMike]

Truly disturbing. In a historical context, ranks right up there with the awful Kia commercial... :rotfl:

However, I bet she could sing the hell out of the "Internationale".

Yours, Mike

[waste gate]

Truly disturbing. In a historical context, ranks right up there with the awful Kia commercial... :rotfl:



Or this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pK8z8oWERMk

[Wim Libaers]

Compared to the real damage politicians cause, I think such symbolic flaws are quite insignificant.

[August]

Wow she used a wrong word? A whole word? Hang her!

[Bort]

So what? Its not like she was actually singing the song, she was just mumbling it under her breath like most people do. Mildly humerous at best and it doesn't disqualify her from being President. Perhaps that website should use spellcheck before posting stories however, misspelling the name of the third largest city in America and my hometown in the dateline.:stare:

[Enigma]

Anyone else get the feeling that some folks feel very threatened by Mrs. Clinton? :lol:

This communist stuff is beyond hilarious.....

[SUBMAN1]

That's pretty bad for a wannabe president. Is she really part of our congress too? I doubt any other member of congress would have issue with this.

-S

[waste gate]

Anyone else get the feeling that some folks feel very threatened by Mrs. Clinton? :lol:

This communist stuff is beyond hilarious.....


I'm not shure threatened is the right word. This is just the early moments of what will be a knock down grag out. Since she recieved her own thread in the forum you may want to look at it and see that I said as much.

[Konovalov]

Is this thread simply about this from the linked article:


Instead of singing "O, say does that star-spangled banner", Senator Clinton sang, "o, say does our star-spangled banner."


This whole stink by many here is just as bad as those who constantly joke about President Bush and his occassional misuse of the English language. Surely you guys must have more pressing issues to comment on regarding US domestic politics? :roll: What a joke. :down:

[SUBMAN1]

Anyone else get the feeling that some folks feel very threatened by Mrs. Clinton? :lol:

This communist stuff is beyond hilarious.....

I'm not shure threatened is the right word. This is just the early moments of what will be a knock down grag out. Since she recieved her own thread in the forum you may want to look at it and see that I said as much.

More like scared would be a better word. She has something to prove is the problem so our nation will suffer for it. I'd vote for any party person possible as long as it was not her. THe communist statements are not far off base either. SOme of her most noted statements include very communistic ideas. Sorry, I don't want my free nation to turn communist. SOme people like that, but I live here so I have freedom to do what I want and I don't need some lady changing that araound on me.

-S

[TteFAboB]

Wow she used a wrong word? A whole word? Hang her!
Is this thread simply about this...?

Exactly! :rotfl:

On the Hillary thread somebody said she'd get the heaviest bombardment, I wanted to fire the first shell. :ping: :88)

Personally, I won't vote for anybody who thinks or promises to use the State as a solution to anything. I'd never vote for Hillary Clinton (learned my lesson with Bush), but not because she failed to sing the national anthem. :)

[XabbaRus]

ANy Brits here remember when John Redwood was secretary for Wales and caught pretending to sing the Welsh national anthem?

[STEED]

ANy Brits here remember when John Redwood was secretary for Wales and caught pretending to sing the Welsh national anthem?

What a embarrassing moment for Margret. :huh: :rotfl:

[bookworm_020]

In Australia they got so fed up with sporting teams that didn't sing the anthem that they demanded that the sport federations teach them! Now 90 % sing it well, the other ten manage to stumble through it!!

Your worried that Hillary suffs up one word in the national anthem?? We've had prime ministers who were drunk, forgot to put there pants on, and twang the queens bra strap!!:o

[waste gate]

I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers We are the president.
Hillary Clinton

[baggygreen]

You know, i thought we'd established that hillary's ideas were more socialist than communist, a difference many people seem hard-pressed to find.

as for the anthem, strewth, i reckon "our" star spangles banner is more patriotic than "that" star-spangled banner anyways!:hmm:

[Chaotic42]

Perhaps that website should use spellcheck before posting stories however, misspelling the name of the third largest city in America and my hometown in the dateline.:stare:

Must be Colts fans.

[Ducimus]

Wow she used a wrong word? A whole word? Hang her!

I can't say im all that crazy about Billy boy's power hungery wife being in the whitehouse, (let alone congress), but i have to admit, making a big stink over one mispoken word smacks of desperatly trying to find *something* (anything?) to use as ammunition in the poltical game of mudslinging.

I can think of far worse offenses by ordinary Americans. Ive met people who do not know why we celerbrate July 4th, let alone the signficance of the year 1776, nor the "shot heard round the world", all the way to people who have no idea how to hang the american flag. I mean ****, every time i see this advertised on TV, i want to puke..

http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/493/203520493.jpg
(link to pic incase it doesnt link correctly : http://www.buy.com/prod/Marine/q/loc/322/203520493.html )

If your going to be overpatriotic, at least do it right and hang the god damn flag correctly. So, yeah, i can think of alot worse then Billy Boy's wife slip of a single word.

[August]

Well shoot, there's plenty of real dirt one could sling at the Clintons. Whitewater, Vince Foster, Sandy Berger, the pardons, to name a few.

[Ducimus]

Well if they were acutally clean, they wouldnt be politicians.

[MadMike]

Say, who did Hillary Rodham intern for back in the early '70's? :hmm:

Yours, Mike

[August]

Say, who did Hillary Rodham intern for back in the early '70's? :hmm:

Yours, Mike

Barry Goldwater?

[The Avon Lady]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).

[ReallyDedPoet]

Has anybody ever heard George W. sing it, probably has or had Cheney leaning over his shoulder helping him out with the big words.

[Tchocky]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).

Wow, that's quite tenuous.

[The Avon Lady]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).
Wow, that's quite tenuous.
Yeh.

Just a presidential candidate 100% conflicting her own words of 4 years ago on a critical campaign issue.

Whatever.......................

[Tchocky]

Yeh.

Just a presidential candidate 100% conflicting her own words of 4 years ago on a critical campaign issue.

Whatever.......................
No, the comparisons that Rush makes just dont make sense. And if he's really buggy about consistency, maybe he should think about what he's saying.

RUSHThe next bite she says (http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20070128-093310-7141r.htm) that Bush should finish Iraq before he leaves.

HILLARY: I think it's the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it. This was his decision to go to war. He went with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.

RUSH: All applause. You know what this is about. Bush has said that the war on terror will go on and on and on beyond his administration, and any expert in this realizes that that's the case. Mrs. Clinton here is saying (summarized), "Oh, no, no, no! You get all this stuff off the table before I take office in 2009."

Iraq does not equal the War On Terror, Rush. But your view of this depends if you believe there is one or not (http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,1997397,00.html)

The rest of the stuff is hogwash, too (geddit?). Hillary might be doing 24 backflips per second, but you wouldnt know it from that transcript.
Maybe I had to be there. Maybe it's a tone of voice issue. Maybe the audience understood. Maybe.

[waste gate]

Don't pay any attention to my lies of four years ago. Listen to the lies I'm telling you now.

[bradclark1]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).
I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:

[The Avon Lady]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).
I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?

[waste gate]

Yeh.

Just a presidential candidate 100% conflicting her own words of 4 years ago on a critical campaign issue.

Whatever.......................
No, the comparisons that Rush makes just dont make sense. And if he's really buggy about consistency, maybe he should think about what he's saying.

RUSHThe next bite she says (http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20070128-093310-7141r.htm) that Bush should finish Iraq before he leaves.

HILLARY: I think it's the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it. This was his decision to go to war. He went with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.

RUSH: All applause. You know what this is about. Bush has said that the war on terror will go on and on and on beyond his administration, and any expert in this realizes that that's the case. Mrs. Clinton here is saying (summarized), "Oh, no, no, no! You get all this stuff off the table before I take office in 2009."

Iraq does not equal the War On Terror, Rush. But your view of this depends if you believe there is one or not (http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,1997397,00.html)

The rest of the stuff is hogwash, too (geddit?). Hillary might be doing 24 backflips per second, but you wouldnt know it from that transcript.
Maybe I had to be there. Maybe it's a tone of voice issue. Maybe the audience understood. Maybe.


A bit on personal resentment.
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/01302007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/i_really_resent_opedcolumnists_john_podhoretz.htm

[MadMike]

August wrote-

"Barry Goldwater?"

Nope.

Repeat- What law firm did Hillary Rodham intern for in the early '70's?


Yours, Mike

(Part of the vast right wing conspiracy)

[The Avon Lady]

Repeat- What law firm did Hillary Rodham intern for in the early '70's?
Heh heh:

"Bobby Seale’s lawyer introduced Hillary to Robert Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford. Both were avowed Communists, and Treuhaft for years served as the attorney for the Communist Party, USA. As the result of this meeting, Hillary spent the summer of 1971 as an intern in Treuhaft’s law office in Berkeley. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, p. 57)"

[bradclark1]

Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Yes you do. I see Hilary talking about leadership and nowhere does it imply going it alone in Iraq.
Did you listen to the whole speech? Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rOjmDsPg_s

[ASWnut101]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).
I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?

seems like hillary pulled a john kerry to me.:doh:

[bradclark1]

Heh heh:

"Bobby Seale’s lawyer introduced Hillary to Robert Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford. Both were avowed Communists, and Treuhaft for years served as the attorney for the Communist Party, USA. As the result of this meeting, Hillary spent the summer of 1971 as an intern in Treuhaft’s law office in Berkeley. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, p. 57)"
So what exactly makes this bad?

[Konovalov]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).
I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?

seems like hillary pulled a john kerry to me.:doh:

Or a John McCain. Check this out: http://therealmccain.com/ :smug:

I thought this thread was about Senator Clinton not being able to sing the national anthem? :-? Oh yeah, I forgot. It's just another hack job thread like that debunked Barrack Obama one from a few weeks back. What a surprise. :roll:

[waste gate]

Heh heh:

"Bobby Seale’s lawyer introduced Hillary to Robert Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford. Both were avowed Communists, and Treuhaft for years served as the attorney for the Communist Party, USA. As the result of this meeting, Hillary spent the summer of 1971 as an intern in Treuhaft’s law office in Berkeley. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, p. 57)"
So what exactly makes this bad?


Ask all the emigraes from the former Soviet Union what they think of communists.

I have yet to meet one who enjoyed communism or what it brought to the millions it was supposed to help.

[fredbass]

I'm afraid to listen. Sorry, I just can't do it. :shifty: :88)

[ASWnut101]

you're back!:up:

[Tchocky]

A bit on personal resentment.
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/01302007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/i_really_resent_opedcolumnists_john_podhoretz.htm

That have anything to do with my post?

As regards her comment, it was a flaky enough thing to say, she could have used clearer words. Maybe she's angry at the position she took, God knows she should be, IMO. Maybe she resents the fact that the war really should be over by now.

[waste gate]

A bit on personal resentment.
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/01302007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/i_really_resent_opedcolumnists_john_podhoretz.htm

That have anything to do with my post?

As regards her comment, it was a flaky enough thing to say, she could have used clearer words. Maybe she's angry at the position she took, God knows she should be, IMO. Maybe she resents the fact that the war really should be over by now.

You placed this in your post. I think it mentions resentment.
HILLARY: I think it's the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it. This was his decision to go to war. He went with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy, and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.

[MadMike]

At least Barak Obama has an ear for music...

Yours, Mike

[bradclark1]

Ask all the emigraes from the former Soviet Union what they think of communists.

I have yet to meet one who enjoyed communism or what it brought to the millions it was supposed to help.
What a joke. Exactly how did Hilary working for a law office who's senior partner happened to be an avowed communist effect the Soviet Union?
If Hilary worked on any pro communist or pro Soviet Union legal issues I'm sure Republicans would have been shouting from the roof tops.
So this is a worthless attempt at what?

[waste gate]

Ask all the emigraes from the former Soviet Union what they think of communists.

I have yet to meet one who enjoyed communism or what it brought to the millions it was supposed to help.
What a joke. Exactly how did Hilary working for a law office who's senior partner happened to be an avowed communist effect the Soviet Union?
If Hilary worked on any pro communist or pro Soviet Union legal issues I'm sure Republicans would have been shouting from the roof tops.
So this is a worthless attempt at what?

Alright, from 1920 through at least 1989 the major communist country in the world was the Soviet Union. Her working for an avoid communist goes to her current stand on everything. She was most certainly in her formatve years as a political entity. As any educator will tell you what is learned early is taken with you into the future.

As far as what she did back then was not communicated by republicans. Please, in 1969 who the F**K new Hillary Rodham? BTW it doesn't change what she is even if they had said something.

[bradclark1]

Please, in 1969 who the F**K new Hillary Rodham
Umm. Public records from that timeframe.:roll:

[waste gate]

Please, in 1969 who the F**K new Hillary Rodham
Umm. Public records from that timeframe.:roll:

OK, Produce the records if you think Miss Rodham can be exonerated from her communist affiliations.

[fatty]

Have never paid an ounce of attention to attack campaigns, never will. The other guy has always done something as worse if not more.

Thankfully musical ability does not determine political prowess, otherwise we'd have people like this in office:
http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/movies/people/j/jackson_michael/150x223.jpg

[bradclark1]

Please, in 1969 who the F**K new Hillary Rodham
Umm. Public records from that timeframe.:roll:

OK, Produce the records if you think Miss Rodham can be exonerated from her communist affiliations.
There is nothing to exonerate her from!

[August]

August wrote-

"Barry Goldwater?"

Nope.

Repeat- What law firm did Hillary Rodham intern for in the early '70's?


Yours, Mike

(Part of the vast right wing conspiracy)

I was just guessing. I refuse to google stuff like that. BTW that wasn't what you asked originally.

[Bort]

Wow, some people on this forum are starting to sound like this guy:
http://trond.weblogg.no/antikonservativ/images/mccarthy1_175514507.jpg
:huh:

[Enigma]

People with great skills in investigation are currently being paid large chunks of money to dig up all the possible dirt on Hilary Clinton that they can. My question is this. If we go through an election year and noone calls hilary Clinton a comunist and actually is able to back it up, can we all point at you guys and laugh?

:hmm:

"The term McCarthyism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism) was coined to describe and condemn the senator's methods, which were widely seen as demagogic and based on reckless, unsubstantiated accusations."

[August]

I don't see Hillary as a commie. I see her as a crooked lawyer and possible accessory to murder.

Too many people in the way of the Clintons end up dead. She's not someone I want to see as POTUS.

[The Avon Lady]

It's just another hack job thread like that debunked Barrack Obama one from a few weeks back.
What specifically did you debunk (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/01/liberal_juan_wi.html)?

[The Avon Lady]

It's just another hack job thread like that debunked Barrack Obama one from a few weeks back.
What specifically did you debunk (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/01/liberal_juan_wi.html)?
Speaking of Obama: Wanna race (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24231_Barack_Obamas_Racial_Obsessions)? :nope:

[The Avon Lady]

Flippery Clinton (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012907/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html).
I dunno. I read it three times and I didn't see any flippery. I see Rush trying to make it look like she flipped them. Her second statement was on Kosovo and he ties that to Iraq. He must still be using those drugs.:doh:
Forget about Rush's commentary. Just look at Hillary's words. Do I really have to point out the obvious to you?

Clinton in 2003:

"HILLARY: With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective."

Clinton in 2007:

"HILLARY: I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies. So he took the authority that I and others gave him and he misused it, and I regret that deeply."

What part of the word "contradiction" don't you understand?

seems like hillary pulled a john kerry to me.:doh:

Or a John McCain. Check this out: http://therealmccain.com/ :smug:
I fully agree. I have never been a fan of McCain the politician or the intelectual.

[Letum]

You think it's hard to remember the American National Anthem?
The UK's National Anthem changes every time we get a monarch of a different gender. It's gonna be fun watching everyone sing "god save the queen" when we have a king. :D

[August]

You think it's hard to remember the American National Anthem?
The UK's National Anthem changes every time we get a monarch of a different gender. It's gonna be fun watching everyone sing "god save the queen" when we have a king. :D

And when was the last time that happened?

[Letum]

You think it's hard to remember the American National Anthem?
The UK's National Anthem changes every time we get a monarch of a different gender. It's gonna be fun watching everyone sing "god save the queen" when we have a king. :D
And when was the last time that happened?

1952.
It's gonna happen at least once more in my lifetime.

[Safe-Keeper]

Oh noez:o! A politician who... stumbles over a word or two and [gasps] flip-flops (http://www.50bushflipflops.com/)?! But that'd make her as bad as Kerry and... er... well, frankly, any other politician out there (I think I remember ole Dubya stumbling over words once... or twice... a minute:p).

Yawn.

I have nothing against right-wingers pointing out the faults of their opponents. But it gets on my nerves when they present said faults as if their own politicians were not guilty of them. "Oh my God, Kerry lied, elect Bush!" (or the other way around).

And a communist? Cute, people. Just cute. Next President Bush is an anarchist because he's against gun control.

Here's hoping for a future when people attack politicians's politics, not their image.

[bradclark1]

Speaking of Obama: Wanna race (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24231_Barack_Obamas_Racial_Obsessions)? :nope: Thats the facts of life.

[August]

You think it's hard to remember the American National Anthem?
The UK's National Anthem changes every time we get a monarch of a different gender. It's gonna be fun watching everyone sing "god save the queen" when we have a king. :D
And when was the last time that happened?
1952.
It's gonna happen at least once more in my lifetime.

Thank God for England that His and Her both begin with the same letter. Must save the MoD gazillions... :D

[MadMike]

Yeah right, let's not allow a politician's past record nor their remarks tarnish their exemplarary public service nor any public debate...

Hillary Clinton's anti-Semitism-

http://www.rense.com/general2/hillh.htm


Joe "Plagiarist" Biden's remarks on Barak Obama today on Drudge.


Robert Byrd and his Ku Klux Klan membership-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd


George Bush, male cheerleader-

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/georgewbush/ig/100-Bush-Pictures/Bush-College-Cheerleader.htm


Ted Kennedy, Chappaquiddick.


Dick Cheney, Expert Marksman.

Yours, Mike

[Chaotic42]

There's nothing wrong with changing your opinion on an issue. Open-mindedness is good. What worries me is when politicians change their stance on an issue due to pressure from a vocal minority or because their party wants them to vote a certain way.

[bradclark1]

Joe "Plagiarist" Biden's remarks on Barak Obama today on Drudge.
I have yet to figure out what was exactly wrong with that remark.

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Polish President (Lech Kaczyñski) has been recorded on a video tape singing Polish National Anthem. With wrong words...

Polish Prime Minister (Jaros³aw Kaczyñski) has been recorded saying in his parliamentary speech:
"And noone will ever manage to make us believe that white is white and black is black!"

Now I understand - both the twins were imported from United States. :rotfl:

[The Avon Lady]

Heh heh:

"Bobby Seale’s lawyer introduced Hillary to Robert Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford. Both were avowed Communists, and Treuhaft for years served as the attorney for the Communist Party, USA. As the result of this meeting, Hillary spent the summer of 1971 as an intern in Treuhaft’s law office in Berkeley. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, p. 57)"
So what exactly makes this bad?
Ask all the emigraes from the former Soviet Union what they think of communists.

I have yet to meet one who enjoyed communism or what it brought to the millions it was supposed to help.
Apparently old habits die hard (http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/02/hillary-shell-reap-socialist-whirlwind.html).

[Konovalov]

It's just another hack job thread like that debunked Barrack Obama one from a few weeks back.
What specifically did you debunk (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/01/liberal_juan_wi.html)?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2819634&page=1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16842036/site/newsweek/

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/ (5th one down)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/22/AR2007012201322.html

[bradclark1]

Apparently old habits die hard (http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/02/hillary-shell-reap-socialist-whirlwind.html).
Yeah. You can always put your belief in Anonymous. :roll:
Interesting blogs those people belong to. :shifty:

[The Avon Lady]

Apparently old habits die hard (http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/02/hillary-shell-reap-socialist-whirlwind.html).
Yeah. You can always put your belief in Anonymous. :roll:
Interesting blogs those people belong to. :shifty:
Ignore at your own national risk. It's an opinion piece yet you have nothing more to say that you cannot believe in anonymous opinions. HRC's comments are on public record (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g).

EDIT: Video link added above.

[The Avon Lady]

It's just another hack job thread like that debunked Barrack Obama one from a few weeks back.
What specifically did you debunk (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/01/liberal_juan_wi.html)?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2819634&page=1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16842036/site/newsweek/

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/ (5th one down)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/22/AR2007012201322.html
None of which see to debunk the Debbie Schlussel article I linked to (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/01/liberal_juan_wi.html). Has that been debunked?

[Konovalov]

FYI Avon I was talking about the debunked allegations made on this forum a few weeks ago as I said in an earlier post. Here is the thread where claims were debunked and some members withdrew their posts: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103761

You have brought up a different matter with the Debbie link.

[bradclark1]

Sounds logical to me. Big oil has for years been getting billions from taxpayers for subsidized research into alternative sources. I think the only thing we have subsidized is oil executive bank accounts.
Funny how oil supply is a national security issue but oil profits are an oil company supply and demand issue. So yes I agree with Hillary. If they won't put up then take up. The government wants public sector research into alternative fuel sources and if oil companies are making the most horrendous profits in the history of the world and there is no incentive for them to change then yes they are charging too much for fuel so take some of those profits and fund research.
You can call me socialist, communist or whatever but the politics of the world says change is needed now. The oil companies voluntarily research or take some of their horrendous profits and use that for research.
Fuel supply is an American national security interest and oil company greed doesn't see any need to change the status quo.

[TteFAboB]

Bradclark for President of the US!

We need a Dictator who knows what to do and can force his arbitrary judgements upon all of society. He knows what's best for all of us, he will take us far and save us in this crisis.

The politics of the world says change is needed now. Most of the world is poor, have already reached 1950's living standards and live under Dictatorships. Why should we lag behind?! Let's follow their example!

[The Avon Lady]

Hillary Clinton's anti-Semitism-
Can we extend that to the entire party (http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006829.htm)?

[Ducimus]

The hate mongering is getting old.

[The Avon Lady]

The hate mongering is getting old.
Precisely! :yep:

[Ducimus]

The hate mongering is getting old.
Precisely! :yep:

Your an instigator of said hate mongering btw.

[Tchocky]

The hate mongering is getting old. Precisely! :yep:
Your an instigator of said hate mongering btw.
L O freakin' L

Stop hate-mongering, hate-mongerer!

reminds me of the cartoons row

"Bah, you call us murderes and suicide bombers! We shall teach you a lesson by killing you!"

etc etc

The cognitive dissonance is getting old

[AVGWarhawk]

There's nothing wrong with changing your opinion on an issue. Open-mindedness is good. What worries me is when politicians change their stance on an issue due to pressure from a vocal minority or because their party wants them to vote a certain way.

I think they change their opinions to gain the votes. I do not believe it is open minded, it is gaining political ground(as you stated, their party wants them too). :up: All the hanky panky Bill has been into most women would have been gone in a heartbeat. Hillary is very smart. She wants the White House and she will get it with Bills help.

[Tchocky]

is it just me or did robbo180265 have a post deleted....

[robbo180265]

[ Hillary is very smart. She wants the White House and she will get it with Bills help.


Amen:up:

[Takeda Shingen]

is it just me or did robbo180265 have a post deleted....

It looks to me like he deleted it himself. Perhaps he did not want to get too involved in what may evolve to be a knock-down-drag-out. I think that this may be very smart of him.

[Ducimus]

Oh blah, whatever.

It's not just Her. Theres a group of people that dominate this forum that inevitiably steer conversations and threads to touch on the topics/issues/views they care most about or endorse.

Usualy somewhere in the neighborhood of neoconservative american poltics or how evil islam is, and how it's going to take over everything, and other misc religious erratta. It's f*cking old. I swear, everytime i look in here, i feel like i have to don a set of hip waders to get through the bulls**t.

[MadMike]

No one is forcing anyone to read this forum.
Don't like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity? Don't listen to their radio programs (it's too bad "Air America" went Tango Uniform). :up:

Speaking of "hate mongering", all one has to do is Google "Democratic Hate Speech" to review statements over the years by embittered liberals such as Algore, Dick Durban, John Kerry, Al Sharpton, ad nauseum.

Yours, Mike

[bradclark1]

No one is forcing anyone to read this forum.
Don't like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity? Don't listen to their radio programs (it's too bad "Air America" went Tango Uniform). :up:

Speaking of "hate mongering", all one has to do is Google "Democratic Hate Speech" to review statements over the years by embittered liberals such as Algore, Dick Durban, John Kerry, Al Sharpton, ad nauseum.

Yours, Mike
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20040126.html

[The Avon Lady]

The hate mongering is getting old.
Precisely! :yep:
Your an instigator of said hate mongering btw.
A hilarious accusation coming from someone who called me an "Israeli necon warhawk" on the forums.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

Have you been tested (http://www.slate.com/id/2158962/pagenum/all)?
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20040126.html
How lofty! License to ignore facts and issues.

[Boris]

Pot calling the kettle black?

Is Ducimus an Israeli neocon warhawk too?

[The Avon Lady]

Pot calling the kettle black?
Is Ducimus an Israeli neocon warhawk too?
No. It refers to what Ducimus accused me of above.

[robbo180265]

is it just me or did robbo180265 have a post deleted....

I have a (bad) habit of letting my mouth run before I have all the facts. Also I really don't want to upset anyone with my opinions. So if I post something and I then find out its misleadng or imflammatory I delete it and write another.

So yes it was deleted - but by me;)

[Konovalov]

Oh blah, whatever.

It's not just Her. Theres a group of people that dominate this forum that inevitiably steer conversations and threads to touch on the topics/issues/views they care most about or endorse.

Usualy somewhere in the neighborhood of neoconservative american poltics or how evil islam is, and how it's going to take over everything, and other misc religious erratta. It's f*cking old. I swear, everytime i look in here, i feel like i have to don a set of hip waders to get through the bulls**t.

Honest and calling it as it is. :yep: I think there might be some money to be made on selling those "hip waders" to forum members for indeed there is a sea of bulls*#t to swim through and negotiate here these days. Anyway I share your frustration but it could be worse. Try being me on this forum. :lol:

[bradclark1]

Have you been tested (http://www.slate.com/id/2158962/pagenum/all)?


Test 9/10 Phew! I'm an unbigoted liberal.


How lofty! License to ignore facts and issues.
No it shows the basic Republican way of doing business:
If you don't agree with me you are unpatriotic.
or
If you point out a shortcoming you are making a hate speech.

[AVGWarhawk]

There's nothing wrong with changing your opinion on an issue. Open-mindedness is good. What worries me is when politicians change their stance on an issue due to pressure from a vocal minority or because their party wants them to vote a certain way.
I think they change their opinions to gain the votes. I do not believe it is open minded, it is gaining political ground(as you stated, their party wants them too). :up: All the hanky panky Bill has been into most women would have been gone in a heartbeat. Hillary is very smart. She wants the White House and she will get it with Bills help.

Sorry, I did not get to finish this yesterday.

Anyway, if Hillary did not think Bill would be a deciding factor in her gaining the White House she would have booted him years ago. Furthermore, she picked NY to be a Senator for. If I'm not mistaken, NY can sway a lot of other states toward Hillary, if NY is backing her. I believe NY is. This plan has been in the works over 15 years. Furthermore, Bill gets an office in Harlem NY. Not because it is great, because he is looking for the vote for Hillary when the time is right. You know, Bill, the common mans man kind of thing. Sit back and watch them plan their work and work their plan. It is already happening.

[dean_acheson]

For God's sake womyn! Put on a skirt! LOL ;)

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2007-02-08T135217Z_01_L08322504_RTRUKOC_0_US-FASHION-CLINTON-VERSACE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

[AVGWarhawk]

She can't because she always has worn the pants in the family;)

[dean_acheson]

AVG,
boy, I walked right into that one.....
:D

[AVGWarhawk]

AVG,
boy, I walked right into that one.....
:D
Whatever the case Dean, it will be interesting and I will not be surprised if she is elected reason being, no one else really is much better. Obama has a chance and I respect the guy but he needs more experience. I believe Hillary knows the inner workings very well. I deal with Government everyday and the red tape is getting thicker. If she is elected, hide your checkbook because she will be after it in the form of tax hikes. She will claim, "No new taxes" on her campaign. Once elected, she will not have new taxes....she will just raise the ones currently in place;). It is done all the time. But as I was stating, this plan for her to become president has been in the works since she was in the White House with good ole' Billy. Let's sit back and watch the show!

[MadMike]

bradclark1 wrote-

"No it shows the basic Republican way of doing business:
If you don't agree with me you are unpatriotic.
or
If you point out a shortcoming you are making a hate speech."

Care to provide any examples? :hmm:

Yours, Mike

[bradclark1]

bradclark1 wrote-

"No it shows the basic Republican way of doing business:
If you don't agree with me you are unpatriotic.
or
If you point out a shortcoming you are making a hate speech."

Care to provide any examples? :hmm:

Yours, Mike
The link I posted is a good place to start for hate speech and listen to the VP or Republican congress at anytime prior to acknowlegeing that things aren't hunky-dory in Iraq for unpatriotic.

[Tchocky]

The cognitive dissonance is getting old

:roll:

(smug? got it)

[bradclark1]

Cognitive dissonance is a psychological (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological) term to define the condition that results whenever an individual attempts to hold two incompatible, if not contradictory, thoughts at the same time even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary.
:D Yep, that goes on a lot.
I feel special. I've learned a couple of big words in the last seven or eight days.:lol: