::to Gwx Team...please Help Me With This::

[DarkFolle]

ok...guys..first of all...my truly best compliments to u cause u did an OUTSTANDING work with this game, revamping all the nature of the game itself...i never had chance to get the HMS Hood and the Carrier Illustrious nor the Revenge Class BB and the Hood again (note it happened in 2 different campaigns in '39 with a IIA) in Scapa Flow....this was truly amazing...

btw...

i have this ugly problem with the game..

I install SH3 (yet patched to v.1.4) useless to say i install ur mod (GWX), then the 23Decmbr patch, then some of the optional features...then SH3 Commander 2.7, patched with the config files given by the GWX exp...then SH3 Gen Beta 0.6.0 (the intelligence generator, i love it lol)..and here we go..

first of all i'm sick tired and really really frustrated... :dead: because:

1) Sometimes when i install SH3 and when i try to run it simply as it is - clean - (note i have an already patched version of SH3 game), the game doesn't start cause i get an "error in library 1450 or 1480 can't remember exactly...so i solve this sometimes by simply restarting the pc or uninstalling and reinstalling it...and here starts the frustration, just the lil part -.-'

2) Sometimes when i install SH3 and GWX i get the same problem

3) Sometimes when i install SH3 and GWX and SH3 Commander 2.7....i get the same problem.

4) Sometimes when i (lol) install SH3 and GWX and SH3 Commander 2.7 and SH3 gen Beta 0.6.0.....i get....mmm...maybe the same problem? (stralol)

this happens from outside the game..
now going in the game

6) when i'm lucky enough to play clean SH3, useless to say this game suck and is so boring i stop to play it after a week..

7) when i'm lucky enough to play SH3, with all of the great and superb add-ons mentioned above....i get random errors of sounds...yes, i get sound problems...sometimes, i can't hear my engines, sometimes i can't hear aircraft or other vessels engine, sometimes i can't hear water sounds..sometimes i hear only water sounds, sometimes i can't hear the scope raise/lower sounds, sometimes i can't hear underwater engine from outside camera, sometimes i can't hear WARSHIP sound at all, sometimes i can't hear DC explosions, and MOST OF ALL I CAN'T HEAR ENEMY'S SONAR PINGING MY U-BOAT!..and that is of course, too much frustrating....

and btw someone can explain why if i go silently in '39 with a IIA against a flower corvette at 60 mtrs down, the flower corvette seems to have god eyes and ears? why my sub-alarm level icon turns to red and reamins red till the flower corvette has gone away, or TILL IT'S THE DAY AFTER???...

i noticed also that sometimes at night when enemy warships and vessels use their flashlights my icon turns red even if i am deeply underwater, and that's really stupid..

i noticed also that after installing GWX mod i get a huge amount of errors with shared .dlls (always 343 shared .dll errors) and with registry files..i use Registry mechanic 5.2 and crap cleaner latest version, and diskeeper 10

i used MD5 program and it says that my mod was downloaded correctly...

i can't tell u the times i had to use Norton Ghost to refresh my system cause everytime i try to uninstall SH3 after the use of GWX mod, it gives me a lot of errors u can't tell..and the only way i found to go back is with NortGhost

1) uninstalling SH3 after the installation of the GWX becomes impossible via the provided uninstall software, i have to do that manually and this generates a lot of irreversible errors with the reg files, cause if i try to reinstall the game after that it says it is still installed, even after using reg mech and ccleaner. I say again, the uninstall feature does work NO MORE.

please, i ask u to help me because i love this game only because of ur "problematic" GWX mod...i loved the Grey Wolves 1.1a mod, and that never gave me problems..but GWX is faaaaar better...

[DarkFolle]

i tried lowering the dx settings too..doesn't worked.

my sys spec are:
pentium 4 3,4
1 gb ram
x850xt
windows xp +sp2
all updated

i had only SH3 installed..
now i'm playing rome total war..

[Firebird]

Hey DarkFolie,

- I'm not a GWX dev, but afaik these dll errors are unrelated to the mod - especially because they exist even on a 'clean' install.

- Check the sticky thread GWX's "uber" AI demystified (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104377) to learn about how the AI works

- As for sounds, I see 2 possibilties:
a) the sound in SH3 is *highly* directional, sometimes by turning around you'll hear the effect
b) you have real problems with sound, unfortunately I can't tell you much here except to make sure you have the latest drivers for your sound-card or (if on-board sound) chipset

Maybe the start problem is related to a wrong dll version, but without error message it's hard to give a solution... . As for the failing uninstall, it sounds as though the registry is a little screwed up :). I don't see many options here except for a system restore to a point where it still worked, or a complete re-install :-?. Maybe someone else has another idea?

[bigboywooly]

Did you say you had the 1.4b patch installed on the GWX version ?
If not it must be

Not sure why you cant uninstall SH3 though
If you cant then try this

Rollback SH3Commander
Delete the whole Ubisoft folder in my programs
Delete the SH3 folder in my documents

Now whack the DVD back in the drive
Choose install
Choose repair
And SilentHunterIII will have a folder back

Patch to 1.4b then add GWX

The stealth meter is an indication that you MAY be detected
Not definately are
Gives a false impression of safety\danger

[Morts]

about that search lights turn on while you're submerged, i think that underwater reflections are modeled if you're not deep enough

if that helps

[bigboywooly]

about that search lights turn on while you're submerged, i think that underwater reflections are modeled if you're not deep enough

if that helps

They will turn on their lights to sweep the surface anyway
You may not be the only uboat about as far as they are concerned plus they are looking for your periscope\bubbles whatever

[DarkFolle]

Hey DarkFolie,

- I'm not a GWX dev, but afaik these dll errors are unrelated to the mod - especially because they exist even on a 'clean' install.

- Check the sticky thread GWX's "uber" AI demystified (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104377) to learn about how the AI works

- As for sounds, I see 2 possibilties:
a) the sound in SH3 is *highly* directional, sometimes by turning around you'll hear the effect
b) you have real problems with sound, unfortunately I can't tell you much here except to make sure you have the latest drivers for your sound-card or (if on-board sound) chipset

Maybe the start problem is related to a wrong dll version, but without error message it's hard to give a solution... . As for the failing uninstall, it sounds as though the registry is a little screwed up :). I don't see many options here except for a system restore to a point where it still worked, or a complete re-install :-?. Maybe someone else has another idea?


1) no, the dll errors appears after installing GWX mod.
2)i noticed that personally..but thx again.
3) a) that's not the case, i don't hear sounds at all of random things.
3) b) sure i already have 'em
4) the error message is "application error - cannot load library 1480"..or something like this but library 1480 is there for sure..but i don't know what it is...:doh:
5) as i said i used many times a restore point of the entire system, but the problem is still there, when i install SH3 and then GWX i cannot unistall the game..it says error 1604.
6) i use Registry Mechanic and Crap Cleaner, and they are useful but not billgateshands..

to bigboywooly: i did it all, u don't even imagine the number of times...

[Firebird]

1) no, the dll errors appears after installing GWX mod. Oh, you actually meant that SH3 had been installed before and that after you installed GWX, these problems began? Else it conflicts with point 1 of your first post, in which you claim that sometimes you install SH3 patched but clean but get the error :). I'm going to assume that SH3 had been installed before, or is installed, in the image you restore over and over again.

Now, what I meant with system restore is actually the Windows 'system restore' feature. Put your image back and check start -> programs -> accessories -> system workset -> system restore. See if there is a restore point for the SH3 installation and if so, rollback to it.

[DarkFolle]

no..i use norton ghost 10 cause it's far better this than the provided restore program in windows..
i got a clean-from-game image of my desktop, so when i use to restore, i restore the system without any game only the same basic programs i usually use...

after the restoration, i install SH3 clean, use diskeeper, use reg mech and few problems here appears...yet sometimes i get this ****in error with some library as i said before..but after installing gwx, i use again reg mech and now a lot of file registry errors come up...and again i have sometimes this ****in error with the library...

[danlisa]

i use norton ghost 10 cause it's far better this than the provided restore program in windows..
i got a clean-from-game image of my desktop
In my short experience with Norton Ghost I found the default setting was to create backup/images at a set schedule. Is it possible your clean image/copy of SH3+1.4b is actually an image of SH3+1.4b+GW1.1a. Just a thought.:hmm:

after the restoration, i install SH3 clean, use diskeeper, use reg mech and few problems here appears...yet sometimes i get this ****in error with some library as i said before..but after installing gwx, i use again reg mech and now a lot of file registry errors come up...and again i have sometimes this ****in error with the library...
Why use diskeeper + Reg Mech after the install? Use these programs after you have un-installed SH3 from your system.

If all else fails, don't use your SH3 image, don't restore, just uninstall SH3 the normal way then run your tools to find errors. Then follow BBW's instructions.

I think your image maybe corrupted.

[DarkFolle]

ehy guys i appreciate ur help, but why don't u read ALL the statements before post a reply?

hey dan i said the image i made with norton ghost is empty of any game...and i don't use norton ghost with schedule feature i'm not that noob as i can appear! lol i use manual back up of my computer!

and for the use of diskeeper after the installation...well my friend...i don't know if ur pc is made by magic, but mine isn't, so to improve write/reading performance and have a system extremely fast at all times...i use diskeeper every day and night.
:know:

i don't know maybe it's really a problem of my copy of sh3 (and this would be bad enough) cause on my father's pc the game runs great! but he has a a copy v.1.0 of the game patched manually to 1.4, while i have a copy already patched to 1.4

[bigboywooly]

i don't know maybe it's really a problem of my copy of sh3 (and this would be bad enough) cause on my father's pc the game runs great! but he has a a copy v.1.0 of the game patched manually to 1.4, while i have a copy already patched to 1.4

I didnt know there was a release already patched to 1.4b ?
AFAIK all releases are 1.0 and NEED to be patched

[Mush Martin]

and btw someone can explain why if i go silently in '39 with a IIA against a flower corvette at 60 mtrs down, the flower corvette seems to have god eyes and ears? why my sub-alarm level icon turns to red and reamins red till the flower corvette has gone away, or TILL IT'S THE DAY AFTER???...

i noticed also that sometimes at night when enemy warships and vessels use their flashlights my icon turns red even if i am deeply underwater, and that's really stupid..

for the first point you were probably over two knots which is actual
"silent speed" for Gwx whether or not youve ordered silent running

on both the second and the first point the indicator
is a false indicator it doesnt mean they have you
it just means your in extreme danger of it.
ie under the circumstance described if you surface or raise periscope they will see
you and that is what indicator is trying to tell you.
also in GWX flower class appears too early in the war as well as Hunt type I's

MM

[Mush Martin]

i don't know maybe it's really a problem of my copy of sh3 (and this would be bad enough) cause on my father's pc the game runs great! but he has a a copy v.1.0 of the game patched manually to 1.4, while i have a copy already patched to 1.4
I didnt know there was a release already patched to 1.4b ?
AFAIK all releases are 1.0 and NEED to be patched

You know I do this by copying my vanilla 1.4 data file to my e drive
before loading up the rest of GWX just incase it saves a bit of time.
and doesnt involve bootleg, all my software is liscensed and paid for.

MM

[bigboywooly]

i don't know maybe it's really a problem of my copy of sh3 (and this would be bad enough) cause on my father's pc the game runs great! but he has a a copy v.1.0 of the game patched manually to 1.4, while i have a copy already patched to 1.4
I didnt know there was a release already patched to 1.4b ?
AFAIK all releases are 1.0 and NEED to be patched

You know I do this by copying my vanilla 1.4 data file to my e drive
before loading up the rest of GWX just incase it saves a bit of time.
and doesnt involve bootleg, all my software is liscensed and paid for.

MM

Yep most of us do MM
But he didnt say he patched his
He said his came patched

Depending where that patched copy came from would depend on whether it is faulty in any way
Which may explain why he is having so many problems

[DarkFolle]

thx to all for your interventions..sorry to post this later but i only have internet at office, need to get adsl at mom's house asap...hwvr i "solved" the problem...if this can be called a solution hwvr..i tried using the copy of my dad the one that is still at version 1.0..and as i thought..it works damn right!..incredible or not, the fault is in my copy of silent hunter 3, already patched to version 1.4b...a note to all: i got original versions in both cases..

this is truly stange :o

now i made a copy of my dad's game, and i will use it for the installation as i have another key to use, and will enjoy the game very well

[JScones]

I didnt know there was a release already patched to 1.4b ?
AFAIK all releases are 1.0 and NEED to be patched
Latest budget bin re-releases appear to include the patch.