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Phoenix3000

01-26-07, 04:33 AM

HI all,

Had a very annoying problem last night with renown.

I just finished a patrol in Feb 1942, driving a type VIIC out of Brest. I came across TWO convoys and scored 11 ships in total, 2 tankers and 9 cargo with full manual targeting and full realism settings (except external camera - I too like the eye candy!). My total tonnage was just over 83,000 tons.

Now, when I returned to port I had earned a little over 3000 Renown points. So, after promoting some crew members, and enlisting some new men I still had about 2000 left.

So I went to the u-boat upgrade screen and added some Bold decoys, an engine upgrade and a few other bits and pieces including the first radar. I still had a little over 500 renown left.

I then clicked on the torpedo loadout screen and saw that it had put Falke homing torpedoes into my forward tubes. Personally I prefer the steam driven or standard electrics at the front as I usually fire from up close or from within a convoy.

So I changed these out no problem. But - I accidentally added a Falke to my stern stores. This took off 500 renown leaving me with only 25 left. When I changed it back to the steam driven torp that was there in the first place I didn't get the renown back! - I just lost 500 renown points!!

So, unable to find a way around it I exited the game, and updated my personnel profile in SH3 Commander and left it for the night, with a view to posting this question today.

So the question is - how can I get those 500 points back that basically shouldn't have been kept by the game. In this instance I don't see it as cheating if I edit a config file somewhere, but if there is another way I would appreciate it if you can point me in the right direction.

Cheers guys!

Px3000

PS - Just noticed I screwed up the grammar in the title!!! - Should obviously read "Edit Renown - not for cheating, there is a valid reason"

JU_88

01-26-07, 04:57 AM

Go to:
C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR USER NAME \My Documents\SH3\data\cfg\Careers\CAREER NAME

Choose patrol numer -whatever you are currently on

Open the read me file in note pad, scroll down near the bottom and you should see-
DeltaRenown=25.000000
change value back to
DeltaRenown=500.000000

Then save the file.

Hope this helps..:up:

STEED

01-26-07, 05:34 AM

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1095/untitledri8.png (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)
You have join the dark side of the force.

codmander

01-26-07, 07:36 AM

nygm tonnage war

Puster Bill

01-26-07, 08:34 AM

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1095/untitledri8.png (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)
You have join the dark side of the force.

Ummm, doesn't the fact that we are all playing on the wrong side mean that we have all joined the Dark Side?

/Not that there is anything wrong with that...

Abd_von_Mumit

01-26-07, 08:47 AM

Ummm, doesn't the fact that we are all playing on the wrong side mean that we have all joined the Dark Side?
We do not play on the wrong side. :) We play on the side that is doomed to loose, but if it wasn't, it could happen to be the 'good one' after the war. It's all the matter of who's the winner and who wrote the story.

But personally I prefer tha black over the white colour (actually 'black' isn;t a colour, but that's irrelevant.). :)

And to make myself clear - I am absolutely NOT a nazi follower or supporter. I'm extremely glad that the III Reich was defeated. I've lost two grandparents in Nazi Death Camps and another two of unknown fate, dissapeared in '44.

danlisa

01-26-07, 08:53 AM

:roll:Neither's White.:rotfl:They're shades.:know:

IceGrog

01-26-07, 09:16 AM

11 ships...........two convoys.........maybe i am doing something wrong:oops:

STEED

01-26-07, 09:35 AM

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1095/untitledri8.png (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)
You have join the dark side of the force.

Once you learn the secret to more Renown you have crossed over to the Sith. :lol:

Are nuts that means me too. :damn:

GT182

01-26-07, 09:38 AM

melnibonian

01-26-07, 09:42 AM

OK since no one is saying anything I will let it out and join all of you guys in the Sith;) :D

If you want more renown but you don't want to cheat you can alter your realism settings. That means you can play in any realism level you like and still get full renown for the ships you kill. That way at least you do 'earn' the renown;)

To do this you have to edit the GameplaySettings.cfg file at C\Program Files\Ubisoft\SH3\data\Cfg To do this go towards the end of the file where it say [Realism Settings]. There set every realism setting you're not using to zero and add more value to the ones you're using. Be careful though as all the numbers should add to 100. That way you're playing at 100% realism for the computer and you get full renown.

Now can I have my place in Sith:p :D :D

STEED

01-26-07, 09:42 AM

I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't have to use renoun to get torpedos.... no matter what they are. You can go into the Data/Basic.cfg and change the renoun to zero for them and save. Tho I'd do it while "In Base" just to be safe. ;)

:hmm: Is it a cheat, no, not in my opinion. Have you ever read that torpedos had to be bought during WWII for any side? I haven't yet. But that's "player's choice". And the same can be said for equipement.

I agree the Renown is a joke can you see this in WW2 some poor captain comes back in a battered boat and is ask how many ships you sunk. None I was under attack. Well that's a big fat zero and no upgrades for you. :o

Phoenix3000

01-26-07, 09:44 AM

Hi,

Thanks JU_88!

I'll try that next time I load up SH3. I've never been one to edit files like this, I've always believed that if you get crap renown you keep it crap until you improve. But in this case you feel cheated by the game - it should have given those 500 points back as I didn't actually want the Falke torpedo.

So STEED, I don't see it as joining the dark-side at all - LOL!!!

@IceGrog - Mate, all I can say - lots of luck helped me with that tonnage!

I broke off contact with a merchant after seeing the radio report of the convoy on the map. I attacked the it 3 times - took a couple of days overall. Got DC's a few times, but wasn't too badly damaged. Attempting the 4th attack I couldn't even get close, the Destroyers were everywhere, so decided to break off the attack. Heading back to Brest with only 3 torps left (and low on fuel) I saw another convoy and I was on an intercept course attacking off their port side at 100 degrees. I fired all 3 eels at 2kms and hit a pyro which went down easily, a tanker and a large merchant. I finished off the merchant with the deck gun the following morning shortly after dawn when the destroyers were nowhere in sight then headed home.

Cheers guys!

Px3000

PS - Just to stress this - I don't plan to cheat to get torpedoes - SH3 conned me out of those 500 points by adding a torpedo I didn't want and not giving me back the 500 when I replaced it with a pre-war steam torp. I won't be editing these files afterwards for any other reason, but I feel it's justified in this case.

danlisa

01-26-07, 09:46 AM

@ Mel

The knowledge you now weld with this realism hack does indeed mean that you have joined the dark side.:cool:

Never underestimate the power of the dark side, DarthMel.:|\\

melnibonian

01-26-07, 09:48 AM

@ Mel

The knowledge you now weld with this realism hack does indeed mean that you have joined the dark side.:cool:

Never underestimate the power of the dark side, DarthMel.:|\\
What is thy biding my master :cool:

Darth Mel (I think I can get used to this I like it)

STEED

01-26-07, 09:49 AM

GT182

01-26-07, 09:59 AM

I agree the Renown is a joke can you see this in WW2 some poor captain comes back in a battered boat and is ask how many ships you sunk. None I was under attack. Well that's a big fat zero and no upgrades for you. :o

Yep. LOL Or, he'd either be shot or sent to the Russian Front post haste. Renoun wouldn't save his butt at all. ;) And , "No Soup for you!"

Jimbuna

01-26-07, 02:02 PM

@ Mel

The knowledge you now weld with this realism hack does indeed mean that you have joined the dark side.:cool:

Never underestimate the power of the dark side, DarthMel.:|\\

Bloody chating if you ask me :yep:
:rotfl:

tycho102

01-26-07, 02:16 PM

Bloody chating if you ask me :yep: :rotfl:

Not really. There's a lot of ships that are categorized as "neutral", when in the real war, they would have been fair game. The reknown has always been off, but that was a play-balance decision.

Puster Bill

01-26-07, 02:45 PM

melnibonian

01-26-07, 02:58 PM

Bloody chating if you ask me :yep:
:rotfl:
The Force is strong with this one.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6464/darthvaderfg0.jpg

There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you. :p :D :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Darth Mel

AVGWarhawk

01-26-07, 03:08 PM

I smoked it but I didn't inhale:smug:

IceGrog

01-26-07, 03:16 PM

I smoked it but I didn't inhale:smug:
yeah..that's what they all say
so if you do get caught cheating do THEY come to your house and beat the crap out of you?

AVGWarhawk

01-26-07, 03:41 PM

I smoked it but I didn't inhale:smug: yeah..that's what they all say
so if you do get caught cheating do THEY come to your house and beat the crap out of you?

No! You finish out your presidency and have a wife who is a senator from NY that wants to run for President in 08:nope:

STEED

01-26-07, 05:27 PM

I smoked it but I didn't inhale:smug:
yeah..that's what they all say
so if you do get caught cheating do THEY come to your house and beat the crap out of you?

No.

This happens.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/39/boom24ax.png (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)

Jimbuna

01-26-07, 05:51 PM

melnibonian

01-26-07, 07:10 PM

You've done enough of that on MP with them damn falkes :rotfl: :up:
Why do you think I'm hiding and keeping away from TS;) I'm affraid that Chris, Dan, Von and you will shoot me on sight:p :D :rotfl:

Jimbuna

01-26-07, 07:22 PM

You've done enough of that on MP with them damn falkes :rotfl: :up:
Why do you think I'm hiding and keeping away from TS;) I'm affraid that Chris, Dan, Von and you will shoot me on sight:p :D :rotfl:

Hmmm....now theres an idea :hmm:

JSalinger

01-26-07, 08:20 PM

:roll:Neither's White.:rotfl:They're shades.:know:

Now if you want to be uber-technical...white is all colors and reflects all light, black is the lack of colors and absorbs all light. ;) Learned that in physics in 9th grade. :D:D:D:D:D

stabiz

01-26-07, 08:51 PM

I for one like the renown system. I know its not ACTUALLY real, but not all kaleuns were granted the latest tech when it arrived. It also gives you something to save up for. Its a game after all.

Iron Budokan

01-27-07, 12:28 PM

The renown system doesn't bother me either, even to get torps or equipment upgrades. If you're any kind of kaleun you'll earn the renown you need. And not every kaleun could get the equipment he needed for his boat whenever he wanted it.

But, yeah, I can see where you might have to change the renown for a mistake like that. No biggie.

Phoenix3000

01-27-07, 01:20 PM

Hi guys,

Just to say I decided against the editing in the end. As you say, do it once and it could get tempting to do it again - :down:

So I decided to live with the mistake and went on patrol 3 instead.

Just returned from it. Didn't take long - one large convoy and I was able to get right amongst them before firing. Left with 4 large cargo ships, a flower class, and a large tanker to my credit.

Weather was awful - huge storm, heavy rain and fast winds - visibility was down to 500-600 metres at most. At one point I was able to surface in the middle of the convoy - this helped with lining up shots etc. and was quite a succesful tactic until one of the merchants opened up with their guns!

The following morning I finished off a couple of stragglers with my last torps and then headed back to Brest.

Take a look at the following pic (link below) - On the way back I checked the map and I had contact showing for 3 subs - and one enemy DD.

http://www.picturehost.co.uk/img/c505e00260256a09c0fd384f60bf8e3a/Other+Subs.JPG

I didn't get to see the subs, but would they have been German or Allies?

This all happened off the south coast of Ireland.

Anyway, I made over a thousand renown on this patrol, so makes up for the missing 500 I guess!

Px3000

(Full manual targeting with SH3 1.4b, GWX, GWX 23rd Dec Updates, SH3 Commander 2.7 - and many, many additional mods!)