Flood tubes?

[Kumando]

I saw a scene in Das boot when the captain said to flood tubes 1 to 4, why this doesnt show on SH3?

[Abd_von_Mumit]

It does. You use 'Q' to 'open tube doors' and that's exactly the same thing, as after opening water fills the space around torpedo, pushing air off.

[ReallyDedPoet]

You would flood them all if you selected salvo, then q to open the doors. Same for single shots. For added effect go into your sound files and increase the volume on that particular sound file.

You can do this with Sound Recorder in Windows.

[Mooncatt]

opening ya tubes before firing makes sure there is no delay. if you fire with the tubes closed there is a delay in firing this in my experience makes the torp more likely to miss.

[LeafsFan]

opening ya tubes before firing makes sure there is no delay. if you fire with the tubes closed there is a delay in firing this in my experience makes the torp more likely to miss.


Just So.

HB

[Kumando]

It does. You use 'Q' to 'open tube doors' and that's exactly the same thing, as after opening water fills the space around torpedo, pushing air off.

Its not the same thing, because in the movie he said flood tubes and afterwards said to open torpedo doors.

[AVGWarhawk]

It does. You use 'Q' to 'open tube doors' and that's exactly the same thing, as after opening water fills the space around torpedo, pushing air off.
Its not the same thing, because in the movie he said flood tubes and afterwards said to open torpedo doors.
Ok now you are knit picking!!! There are a lot things that are not historically correct in the movie but with that said....I believe you do flood tubes and then open doors...anyone?????:hmm:

[StandingCow]

Nope, opening the doors allows the water in, hence flooding the tubes. ;)

[AVGWarhawk]

Here is our only question. Tube full if air, do not want to see air go to surface thus alerting vessel you are aiming for. Are the tubes not flooded to eliminate the air then doors opened?

Where the hell is Sailor Steve when you need him:nope:

[Sailor Steve]

Right here, but as lacking in specific knowledge as everybody else. The outer doors open inward, but the inward doors have to push outward against the pressure. Granted, the pressure at periscope depth isn't too bad, but the boat is also moving forward, so it makes sense that the tubes would be flooded before opening the doors.

Of course what I think makes sense and what really happens aren't always the same thing. Where's one of our real-life sub guys when we need him?:roll:

[Ulven]

I seem to remember a scene from The Hunt For Red October, where USS Dallas and Red October have sighter each other and Jack Ryan is trying to communicate with Cpt Ramius in order to find out his intentions. They seem to make a big fuzz about torpedo doors being open, but tubes not flooded. I belive Ramius opens the outer doors, to show his crew that he's taking the threat seriously, but not flooding the tubes, not to provoce Dallas.

Yeah, I know, it's a movie, and not a very realistic one, but it's the best I've got to contribute with! :)

[Sailor Steve]

Got it! Yep, it's flood first, then open inner doors.
http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/tubes/chap1.htm#1B

[danurve]

I seem to remember a scene from The Hunt For Red October, where USS Dallas and Red October have sighter each other and Jack Ryan is trying to communicate with Cpt Ramius in order to find out his intentions. They seem to make a big fuzz about torpedo doors being open, but tubes not flooded. I belive Ramius opens the outer doors, to show his crew that he's taking the threat seriously, but not flooding the tubes, not to provoce Dallas.

Yeah, I know, it's a movie, and not a very realistic one, but it's the best I've got to contribute with! :)

It was actually the other way around.
Flood tube(s), do not open outer doors.
The Cpt. of the Dallas later calling the Russian Cpt a "cool customer" of sorts. Accuracy of hollywood always being questionable, as well as the spelling of quotes.:88)

[Kumando]

Got it! Yep, it's flood first, then open inner doors.
http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/tubes/chap1.htm#1B

One more thing missing from the game :cry:, could it be moded?

[Ulven]

I seem to remember a scene from The Hunt For Red October, where USS Dallas and Red October have sighter each other and Jack Ryan is trying to communicate with Cpt Ramius in order to find out his intentions. They seem to make a big fuzz about torpedo doors being open, but tubes not flooded. I belive Ramius opens the outer doors, to show his crew that he's taking the threat seriously, but not flooding the tubes, not to provoce Dallas.

Yeah, I know, it's a movie, and not a very realistic one, but it's the best I've got to contribute with! :)

It was actually the other way around.
Flood tube(s), do not open outer doors.
The Cpt. of the Dallas later calling the Russian Cpt a "cool customer" of sorts. Accuracy of hollywood always being questionable, as well as the spelling of quotes.:88)

Oh, darn. :damn: Well, well, thanks for straightening things up!

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

This probably was not included as part of the game because there is no game benefit to flooding your tubes only. Yes, that was necessary prior to opening the tube caps and outer doors, but I'm guessing that the developers looked at the 'Q' key as a combined 'flood-tube-then-open-door' scenario. Possibly also why there is a small delay for the door to open: a few seconds are needed to flood the tube before opening the outer door.

[Steppenwolf]

This probably was not included as part of the game because there is no game benefit to flooding your tubes only. Yes, that was necessary prior to opening the tube caps and outer doors, but I'm guessing that the developers looked at the 'Q' key as a combined 'flood-tube-then-open-door' scenario. Possibly also why there is a small delay for the door to open: a few seconds are needed to flood the tube before opening the outer door.

That's correct. Back when the game first came out, there was a comment from one of the devs, in an article or forum post, that said the "Q" command was a combination of flooding the tubes and opening the doors. Unfortunately, this was a long time back and I have no idea where I saw it.

[Lovro]

As far as I know in RL it goes: preshurising, flooding and then opening the muzzle doors.

[AVGWarhawk]

It would be neat but just an extra step we do not need in the heat of battle!!!!

[danlisa]

Why can't the sound of tubes flooding be modded to the tube selection in the TDC screen. That way, select tube - it floods, Press Q - Doors open.:hmm:

Any bright modder out there.:D

[gonzosts]

At least that is the way it is done in "todays" sub force. Tubes are flooded first to equalize tube to outside pressure. Then the outter along with the barn doors (the ones that keep the hull arrow dynamic are opened. And just another tid bit, there's an interlock mechanizim that prevents the inner (inside the sub) tube door from opening when the outer door is open. torpedo is then shot with impulse of HP air.

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Why can't the sound of tubes flooding be modded to the tube selection in the TDC screen. That way, select tube - it floods, Press Q - Doors open.:hmm:

Any bright modder out there.:D
We _absolutely_ don't want that, as you're going to realize soon, I think. :) Always after loading my game every evening one of the first things I do is readjusting torpedo settings: switching to 3 metres, impact pistol, fast speed (if steam one) (unfortunately these settings are not stored in save files). If all the torpedoes where flooded while doing this, I'd have to fill the tubes with air again after adjusting, and that would consume quite a large part of my compressed air storage. Then I'd be forced to stay on surface for much longer time to refill it. I do a recheck of my torpedo settings also when approaching a convoy, to make sure I set them properly, and I redo it again after reloading any of my six torpedoes... Flooding all of them every time I do the check would be a pain in tube... :)

[danurve]

U-49 out on patrol #5 (current carrer).

"Q"

http://huntny.us/images/u49_5_spread.jpg

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

And just another tid bit, there's an interlock mechanizim that prevents the inner (inside the sub) tube door from opening when the outer door is open.

Perhaps modern submarines do.

http://homepage.eircom.net/~navalassociation/thetis.htm