View Full Version : Labour getting even more soft on crime
At this rate I shall have to buy a gun to protect myself. ;)
Ministers beg judges - don't jail any more criminals! (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23382827-details/Ministers+beg+judges+-+don%27t+jail+any+more+criminals%21/article.do)
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DanCanovas
01-24-07, 02:00 PM
the justice (or lack of) system in this country is something that is really concerning me and is my biggest worry.
Yahoshua
01-24-07, 07:19 PM
Well, Britain has gone down the drain now.
Tchocky
01-24-07, 07:25 PM
How is this getting "soft on crime"?
From the article, the prisons system is overcrowded, and jamming more criminals into them will only make things worse. It's a desperate response to a ridiculous situation, but painting it as Labour wilfully softening on crime is inaccurate. Would a Home Office that was softening up be trying to acquire prison ships?
Yahoshua
01-24-07, 07:55 PM
So you'd rather have a convicted felon loose on the streets than in an overcrowded prison?
Prison isn't supposed to be a nice place.
TteFAboB
01-24-07, 07:56 PM
Prison ships?
Brits, here's a much cheaper, and permanent, solution: do the whole Australia thing all over again. :D
Tchocky
01-24-07, 08:01 PM
*slaps forehead*
baggygreen
01-24-07, 09:12 PM
Prison ships?
Brits, here's a much cheaper, and permanent, solution: do the whole Australia thing all over again. :DYeh, but just make sure you dont send em back here, thats the last thing we need!
Although, that could be the worst punishment possible, given the ribbing they'd cop about the cricket...:hmm:
Yahoshua
01-24-07, 09:53 PM
It was an open question to the Brit gov't Tchocky, sry if I wasn't clear (It's also been a long day.....sans coffee).
The Avon Lady
01-25-07, 12:19 AM
At this rate I shall have to buy a gun to protect myself. ;)
Ministers beg judges - don't jail any more criminals! (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23382827-details/Ministers+beg+judges+-+don%27t+jail+any+more+criminals%21/article.do)
Relax. Things could be worse.
Oh.
They are (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24135_British_Tiny_Problem_Watch&only).
At this rate I shall have to buy a gun to protect myself. ;)
Ministers beg judges - don't jail any more criminals! (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23382827-details/Ministers+beg+judges+-+don%27t+jail+any+more+criminals%21/article.do)
Relax. Things could be worse.
Oh.
They are (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24135_British_Tiny_Problem_Watch&only).
Sir Ian Blair is so wet I'm just wondering anyone near him is going to slip in his gloss.
Dont feel bad.
It just aint you Brits.
Here in Florida as long as you do not commit a violent crime...ie. if you rape some one dont beat them, if you rob some one dont beat them, if you break into a house dont hurt anyone...etc etc.
You'll be on the street before the cop gets the paper work done.:damn: :damn: :damn:
And we have just started a new way of Jury Rigging... so we can be more PC.:damn: :roll: :damn: :doh: :damn:
Reid's prison plan comes under fire (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=ZCBUGAZGSBU23QFIQMGCFFWAVCBQ UIV0?xml=/news/2007/01/26/nreid926.xml)
John Reid is living in cuckoo land :doh: It's time to step down if he can.
Kapitan_Phillips
01-26-07, 07:34 PM
Prison ships?
Brits, here's a much cheaper, and permanent, solution: do the whole Australia thing all over again. :D
Better idea. Shoot 'em.
TteFAboB
01-26-07, 08:44 PM
Better idea. Shoot 'em.
Too quick! Yes, most of the "persistent and violent offenders" (I suppose these are the sociopaths) are not worth their cost in prison and they are kept there only because we lack a better option. Those damn court mistakes prevent us from increasing the scale of the death sentence. You could say very few people actually deserve a death sentence, that's completely true. Almost all of them deserve alot worse than that, to be kept alive to suffer and endure endless pain, to work for the rest of their lives to pay for their stay in prison, with interest, which will go to their victims. But that's where Australia comes in!
What was the count again? 200 extremely dangerous sea creatures in all surrounding oceans? 500 venomous land animals below every rock and behind every bush? 1000 amphibious monsters that not only swarm the water and creep around the land but are also invisible to the eye? Fine, you've got a point, if they lick those cane toads they'll die just as fast, but chances are they'll get bitten by something else first, something less lethal but just as painful, hopefully. Hmm. We could make a sport out of this. Yes, you've got a point again, "Shoot the criminal" would be a fun sport to watch, I wouldn't like playing it because I don't like shooting animals nobody will eat, though we could arrange for their carcasses to be processed and sent to Africa as Humanitarian supplies. Ooooh, humanitarian supplies. At least I've managed to fit in one good joke in this post. Humanitarian supplies...sheesh :) ). Still, that wouldn't be as fun as watching a rapist get raped by a kangaroo's tail. Those things are thick, and hard.
Fine, fine. This is all too complicated, it will be a hassle to take them to Australia, do you know how much a single stowaway locked inside the sewage tank of a cargo ship costs in additional fuel?
Tell you what, you get your dracula gear and give the convicts a big scare. That will teach them for life. We'll make you an Urban Legend. Count Vampilante or Vigipire. You'll be like Batman, but better. Instead of that freakish Robbin creep you'll have Catwoman as sidekick, but don't tell her she's the sidekick! It's best to let sidekicks think they're the actual protagonists, for their own good. Count Phillips von Dracula, also known as The Vampinator, roams the skies of Britain every single night looking for trouble, waiting for the next cry of help, watching suspicious behavior from above and bringing it on the bad guys.
Only one man can stop him: John Reid. Count Phillips von Dracula's top-secret hide-out can only hold so many prisioners before overcrowing aswell. Not that Count Phillips doesn't appreciate having a legion of subservient and frightened slaves. But the Batcave is beginning to smell, I forgot to put a Butler in the story, not that Count Phillips could afford one anyway, so there's no one to do the cleaning. Which means that in the end the top-secret Batcave will have to be emptied and remain so to open the place for paying tourists. Start working on that gift shop.
To avoid being sentenced to death for the crimes of perilous proximity to off-topicness and gratuitious spamming (the damn moderators have no sense of humour. Damn! I've just infringed another rule, I criticized a moderator in public![not really! I was kidding]) I will finish this post with a most adequate ponderation:
Problems with excessive imprisoning laws aside, a new fresh prison or two could help.
Yahoshua
01-26-07, 09:32 PM
Think of it this way:
Here in the states it costs the taxpayer an average of 12 grand a year (that's $12,000 U.S.) PER inmate.
A manufactured cartridge costs 13 cents.
The math gets real simple from thereon.
The Noob
01-27-07, 01:54 AM
If prisons are full, release some not-that-worse criminals like car thiefs and make place for the real bad guys, like murders and stuff.
Problem, themporarly, solved.
Another thing: Stop spending so much money on cameras and build more prisons.
If prisons are full, release some not-that-worse criminals like car thiefs and make place for the real bad guys, like murders and stuff.
Problem, themporarly, solved.
Another thing: Stop spending so much money on cameras and build more prisons.
Now there's a idea, so why can't the Home office think something up like that? Answer they are :doh: :88) :doh: :88)
Kapitan
01-27-07, 04:25 PM
They are soft on criminals like murderers and pedoes but as soon as it came to my dad's case they said they wouldnt allow any of my evedence into court and that he could only plead guilty or face 6 years.
Bellman
01-28-07, 06:15 AM
Bring back the good 'ole days - oh yes !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fStjH7Xpog4
Bring back the good 'ole days - oh yes !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fStjH7Xpog4
And under Labour Government they have bought in over 100 tax's since 1997 put the economy back into the red told people to spend money to avoid a recession which they did and consumer debt is over £1 Trillion and what dose the government do? Not a thing, Tony Blair said back in 1997 we must be whiter than white tell that to Peter Mandelson and Co. Labour are just as sleazy as the Tories.
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