*POLL* SH3 vs SH4.

[Vikinger]

Hiya.

I just wanted to know what will happend to the mod/player community for SH3 when SH4 is relesed.

Will you still continue to play sh3 or only sh4 or maybe both?

Will the mod community still develop mods for sh3 or will all go over to sh4?


For me its simple. I will continue to play sh3 and also sh4. reason is that sh3 have come real far whit all lovely mods there is and will last even after sh4 is released. And also the fact that thos 2 games take action in different theater of the world.

I think this is a relevant poll if we will se some major mod release for the future in sh3.

[Letum]

I have no interest in the pacific.

If SH4 can be modded back into the Atlantic then I might play it.

[Torplexed]

Although the Atlantic has the more difficult and challenging aspect, the Pacific is a sentimental favorite for me. (Read too many Beach novels as a kid) So both for me. :cool:

[CCIP]

Both, although if SHIV turns out to be a far superior game, I will eventually spend more time with it and less with SHIII.

[jasonsagert]

Both theaters of war have their merits. I'll play both.

The Pacific: The scale of the naval engagements in the Pacific were awesome :o(and I'm using "awesome" in it's original meaning). Huge carrier groups with huge escort screens. That's HAS to be fun to play with. The Americans win, so does it get easier as the game progresses? That'd be strange. Though, I've never been that interested in american submarines in WWII. I guess it'll be a chance to learn more about that aspect of the Pacific war.

The Atlantic: The U-boats do have my heart. There is something romatic about fighting for the losing team. No matter what the odds, you still head out on your patrol to try and make a difference. And I like how as the war progresses, it gets tougher and tougher. Also, I love the technology war that occured in the atlantic. On a side note, I do think that the german U-boats have the sexier lines. Damn, is their a better looking subarmine than a type VII?

Hell, I'll play both, but I think I'll play SH3 more even after SH4 comes out. I guess I'm a hopeless romantic ;)

J

[Boris]

I have no idea yet. SHIV hasn't been released and I have no idea what it's going to be like straight out of the box.

I was a vehement opposer of the Pacific idea, because I wanted to see the Atlantic complete. but I have warmed to the idea of playing in a new theatre for the other side and I think it will be a refreshing change.

I will say now that I might continue to play SH3 after SHIV has been released, but if it is really good I fear I may not. I'll probably be annoyed that SH3 doesn't have the better graphics and the gamplay refinements of the sequel.
But I'll still pine for the Atlantic and my typVII, so I'll probably join another looong modding effort, this time to convert SH4 (if thats even possible).

[GSpector]

For now, SH3 (Of course)

When SH4 comes out, I'll check the players reviews and will probably get it. Then I'l play both.

The only way I'll swap SH3 for SH4 is if it proves to be a lot better in more ways then graphics.

[ReallyDedPoet]

I love the Atlantic Theatre and U Boats, but will give the pacific a go. Eventually I am sure that I will play both.

[Mooncatt]

well imho i dont think i could choose which i will play atm coz i dont know what sh4 is going to be like yet so it isnt fair to say "yeah im gonna sack sh3 and go with sh4" i think i will still play sh3 because of all the brilliant work people have put in to it, i dont think sh3 will ever die tbh it is too good a game for that. imho i think sh3 is the best game around and the best game i have ever had the pleasure to play.
if sh4 can improve on sh3 that can only mean a good thing. i have everything crossed for another smash hit sub sim :up:

[danlisa]

I voted to stay with SH3. Basically, at the moment I'm of the opinion that SH3 is nearly as good as we can get it.:up: (including what might be added).

I will not be first out the door to buy SH4 but rather sit here and see what all of you make of it. You're my guinea pigs.;)

I also much prefer the U-Boat theatre, so it'll be 6mths+ before I try out SH4.

[melnibonian]

I like the Atlantic and the U-Boats more than the Pacific. GWX with all the updates planed is a brilliant platform for me so I'm happy with it. Also it depends on the system specs of SH4. If they are more demanding than SH3 I will let this one go. In conclusion SH3/GWX does the trick for me so I'll give at least 6 months to SH4 and judge then.

[Jazer]

I'm a Deutch fanatic. I really like the idea of modding sh4 back to the Atlantic!:up:

[Sailor Steve]

I am not effete or elite, nor am I a snob. I like submarines; I'll play both (and every once in a while even dig out SHI and Aces).:ping: :ping: :ping:

[Iron Budokan]

I'll play both but I'm spoiled. SH4 is going to have to go a long way to impress me more than SH3 + GWX.

Of course, I could always wait for SH4 + GWX.... :)

[mookiemookie]

I love U-boats and the Battle of the Atlantic, but I will also be picking up SH4 on release day.

I didn't vote because it's far too early to tell. Like people have said, I have no idea how it's going to be out of the box. If it's got flaws, I'll probably go back to SH3 until the modders do their thing and fix what can be fixed.

[bert8for3]

The way the choices were put, I said I'd only play SH3, but what I mean is that I'll stay with SH3 through the initial shakedown period of SH4. Let the bugs get sorted out, see what people say about how SH4 runs on their systems, etc. Then if it sounds significantly better than SH4, I'll play both. But I'll never drop SH3 until such time as a much improved Uboat version comes out.

[STEED]

Both and stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :smug: :lol:

[Kpt, Otto]

I will most likely stick with SH3 because I prefere the Atlantic theatre of operations. However I will buy SH4 1) To support the development of subsims by Ubisoft 2) Because I know i will enjoy the game.

I have always been a U-Boat nut and remember playing an arcade game similar to 'Submarine' when I were but a young lad!
http://www.subsim.com/ssr/images/simhis5.jpg

Later i remember a submarine game on the Sinclair spectrum, cant remember its name (It might have been Gato) but it was full on manual targeting and you never saw the ship you hit although in the far distance of what they called the sea you could see a speck!

Then much later I got hooked on Silent Service on a system called Philips CDROM, a system that didnt really take off here but it was one of the first to feature CD software. The graphics were great for its day and I remember thinking wow! :D That game centered on the Pacific campain.

Then I brought myself into the modern world with a IBM PC and got Silent Service on that running through DOS. I was very disapointed because the graphics were no where near as good as on the Philips sytem.

So when I got the original Silent Hunter I was well happy and me and some pals used to play that well into the night and into the next morning, having to go to work later that day! :lol:

I thought we would be lucky to get another sub sim. So when Silent Hunter II came out I brought it and was amazed by the 3d Model and the motion of the sea. I liked the feeling that I was not the only German unit out there (Through radio reports) and I liked the campain model somewhat, but there was something lacking and i think it was a lack of others on the U-Boat. But it was still a mile stone forward.

With Silent Hunter III I first saw it running at a friends house and so had to go out and buy it and also a new computer to play it! I prefere the Atlantic campain to the Pacific proberly because its closer to home and its seems more raw to me.

With GWX, Silent Hunter III is more like what it should have been if the developers had finished it and been able to put more time into such details as the Gramaphone, Harbour traffic, the voices, (the english versions seem to lack a German acsent to me!)... little details that add so much. GWX gives it an edge that makes it the best subsim i have ever played.

Silent Hunter IV? I shall wait and see. But already the graphics are better if I believe what ive seen. Graphics are important because it can transport a person there and plant them right in it. Dont get me wrong without a decent AI then the game would be a lame duck!

I am hoping for an eventual Silent Hunter V which would be again set in the Atlantic during WWII. I like the thought of the cold war era but I think that should perhaps be under a differant title. :hmm:

Here is Subsims own history of subsims:
http://www.subsim.com/ssr/simhist.html

Opps Ive rambled on a bit here! Time to sneek off quietly! :oops:

[Corsair]

As I have parallel careers running in both NYGM and GWX, don't know where I would find time to play anything new (considering I also have F4AF, IL2, OFP and GTR2 to deal with...:D) I have enough in there for the next 2 years at least with all new mods/missions/campaigns).
Besides that the only thing I ever found interesting in the PTO are the carrier ops. Only started the SH series with SH3.

[Ducimus]

Chances are ill drop SH3, dive head first into SH4, and never look back.

SH3 is getting long in the tooth for me, The magic is gone. I've played it too much now, and its just somthing i do on my freetime out of lack of finding anything else that interests me more.

[bigboywooly]

SHIII for I
May have a look at IV down the line but as my PC is below what specs I have seen posted so far for it I doubt will bother

Mind you even if I bought a new comp tomorrow doubt will take to SHIV
The Specific theatre means nothing to me
SH3 will keep me going till SHV
:rotfl:

[Wulfmann]

I voted for both but will actually wait on SH4 and let the bugs get worked out.
I may prefer the Atlantic because it starts easy and gets impossible and the Pacific is counter game in that regard.
However, if it makes me feel more like I am in a sub and makes SH3 look dated and old school I may end up in the Pacific if not to get the U-Boats out of my system in anticipation of a walk through cinematic SHV.

Wulfmann

[bookworm_020]

How can you have two much of a good thing?? I will be playing both! Now that SHIII has GWX, it's like a new game!:up:

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

I will play both, but probably the majority of my play will be SHIII. There is just something about the Atlantic and U-boats that have always had an allure to me, and although I'll play SH4 now and then I expect the bulk of my time will be SHIII.

[Sulikate]

Well, I'll probably keep both, but first play SHIV a lot, and then go back...
Maybe there is a atlantic mod for SHIV :arrgh!:

[Hartmann]

I will start play SH4 with the first decent patch and some good comunity mods because i loves Pacific scenario since Sh1. but probably both games stay a lot of time in my hard disk.

Players could stay a lot of time with sh3 but with the time all moders will move to Vanilla sh4 because is something new and probably with a lot of things to improve.
And everything new attract a lot of people

Also SH3 with GWX is almost completed with little margin to improve withouth a sdk tools.

[GT182]

I voted SHIII only... for now at least. Depending on problems that were associated with SHIII, and might be present in SH4, I'll decide then or when they're fixed.

Basically I can't see playing on the Japanese side. And have the same feelings as Danlisa. If SH4 cam be modded to the Atlantic, I might go for it. If not, no big loss. SHIII will keep being worked on and can only get better and better. Who's to say SHIII can't be modded in the future to the complete Pacific.

Actually I'd rather play PT Boats KOTS than SH4, more action. SH4 could end up being a long dull procession of nothing going on for longer periods of time.

[Subnuts]

Basically I can't see playing on the Japanese side.

Umm, Silent Hunter IV is an American submarine sim. :huh:

[GT182]

Well I thought I'd heard it was actually both sides you could play for. But what the heck.... thanks for the correction SN. :up:

[JerM]

hey i'll play both. nothing wrong with that. but i can't wait for SH4 pacific theater. well maybe because im filipino.:yep: went there once. you can go around and find a lot of stuff leftover from WW2.

[Deep-Six]

I will play both, and if I can afford to buy it.

[gdogghenrikson]

I had to upgrade my pc to play SH3 and I can't afford to upgrade my pc again.

[adamh75]

I have no interest in the pacific.

If SH4 can be modded back into the Atlantic then I might play it.

I tend to agree; and as someone else mentioned, you've got to love playing the underdog. SH4 does make sense as the next simulation for its change of pace and from a marketing standpoint as it has a huge pacific war fanbase.

After SH4 is released, all efforts should be concentrated into developing the next "ultimate" Atlantic simulation. At this point I would suggest a title change dependent on theatres as SH5, 6, 7 will get unrecognizable as to which version had what and which side you were on. Any suggestions? (they could be listening...)

[gouldjg]

Just don't get time to play anymore :damn: :damn: :damn:

I have appraisal on monday and kinda hope I get sacked but in reality Ill just get more work.

[TheSatyr]

Once I get SH4, SH3 will be permanently retired. I've always had more interest in the pacific than the atlantic.

[Letum]

After SH4 is released, all efforts should be concentrated into developing the next "ultimate" Atlantic simulation.

Nah, we want a new destroyer command! :up:

[bigboywooly]

After SH4 is released, all efforts should be concentrated into developing the next "ultimate" Atlantic simulation.

Nah, we want a new destroyer command! :up:

SHV and a new destroyer command
:rotfl:

[STEED]

Nah, we want a new destroyer command! :up:

Long over due. :yep:

[Redbear]

I'll stick to SH3 for the forseeable future. SH4 is beyond the ability of my PC, and I like the Battle of the Atlantic anyway.

[Melonfish]

i'll play both. that is i'll get as much play in as possible until the missus KILLS me for spending so much time on the pc.
hehe
pete

[U49]

I'm still not finished with Sh3 yet :rock:

[joea]

What's with all the zombie threads!!! :o

[Hanomag]

Sorry but SH4 is teh suk......... gamer term for crappy.

SH3 4Evah :rock:


PS Bring out yer dead...resurrect the threads...

[Siara]

Im afraid still SH3, partly due to PC deficiency...:roll:

[JU_88]

I LIKE CAKE :-j :rock: :rock:

[joea]

Sorry but SH4 is teh suk......... gamer term for crappy.

SH3 4Evah :rock:


PS Bring out yer dead...resurrect the threads...

Actually you are wrong, after some patches (and probably one more on the way) and dedicated modders. Not as good as SH3/GWX yet but...:know:

[Jimbuna]

Actually you are wrong, after some patches (and probably one more on the way) and dedicated modders. Not as good as SH3/GWX yet but...:know:

Precisely :yep:

Ever felt like your travelling back in time ;)

[Huskalar]

At this moment my pc is probably not able to run SH4 smoothly. But I'm considering to increase the amount of RAM memory in the near future. But I don't know if that will be enough to make SH4 run. But at least it will make the SH3 loading times shorter. :D

[Hartmann]

Both games.

why don´t have the two games installed ?

i still play sh3 because my Pc is not very fast and sh4 is still in the starts of the modding but i will play it in the future.

Some people are tired and say that they will never return to SH3 but with the time the same could happens with SH4. :hmm:

Perhaps sh4 could be the last subsim in a lot of time, or years, so a good solution is a big megamod in the future simulating all the submarine war during WW2.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

again a SH3 against SH4 poll ? how many arnt here already ?
anyway, im staying in the atlantic :yep:

[clayton]

Sorry but SH4 is teh suk......... gamer term for crappy.

SH3 4Evah :rock:


PS Bring out yer dead...resurrect the threads...

:rock:, dude!

[Sailor Steve]

again a SH3 against SH4 poll ? how many arnt here already ?
anyway, im staying in the atlantic :yep:
Um, if you look at the first page, you will see that this one was started back in January...three months before the release of SH4. This was the first one I know of on this board.

This is what happens when people ressurect old threads.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

again a SH3 against SH4 poll ? how many arnt here already ?
anyway, im staying in the atlantic :yep: Um, if you look at the first page, you will see that this one was started back in January...three months before the release of SH4. This was the first one I know of on this board.

This is what happens when people ressurect old threads.

wich they shouldnt do :nope:

[madmike81]

GWX modded SH3 is just about the most imersive as i think one can get in a subsim. I often find myself wishing that game designers could somehow take a lesson from how SH3 has been modded by people...especially the large mods like GWX and the others.

SH4 was released unfinished and generally a mess. I tried to play it...over and over. But i think it needs some serious serious work...be it by modders of the half-baked design team that made it.

Its really a shame that it turned out that way too. I remember wishing the digital download would go much faster so i could load it up. But once i did load it up i was pretty disgusted as the amount of money i paid for an unfinished, unpolished, piece of trash.

I dont mean to sound so harsh as i know SH4 has some die-hard fans who love it. But i seriously felt like UBI had put a brown paper bag full of crap on my doorstep lit on fire...except the crap isnt on my shoe...it sits in my downloded items file somwhere on my C drive. Its there to remind me that i should always wait to buy games.

GWX modded SH3 is a great game. It has amazing replay value and as stated before...the immersion in the best i have seen in a sim.

[kiwi_2005]

I love SH4, now and then i'll load up SH3 GWX just for that atlantic fix, but if i had to choose 1, SH4 would be it. :yep:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/Kiwi_Frank/sh44.jpg

[Sailor Steve]

GWX modded SH3 is just about the most imersive as i think one can get in a subsim. I often find myself wishing that game designers could somehow take a lesson from how SH3 has been modded by people...especially the large mods like GWX and the others.
I'm sure the designers could do a better job if they took the same amount of time it's taken to get SH3 to this point. Are you willing to wait four years for the release of each new game?

...the half-baked design team that made it.
It has been pointed out more than once that when the companies finally hear enough comments like that one, we won't see better games; we'll see none at all.

[madmike81]

...the half-baked design team that made it.
It has been pointed out more than once that when the companies finally hear enough comments like that one, we won't see better games; we'll see none at all.[/quote]

As the consumer who spends his/her money for the game...you have every right to say what you want about it.

Im not willing to shelve my oppinion of anything because the person/persons who designed it are sensative.

And as far as waiting for a good game....are you serious? Yes i would wait 3-4 years for a game to come out that was polished and tested. Whats the difference between that and waiting for a greedy company to release patchwork for their software mess?

[Stealth Hunter]

I have no interest in the pacific.

If SH4 can be modded back into the Atlantic then I might play it.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/Sgt-Smithy/untitled-2.jpg

[me262]

If SH4 can be modded back into the Atlantic then I might play it. Sh4 is as dangerous as Raymonds Raving Rabbits.

[Sailor Steve]

As the consumer who spends his/her money for the game...you have every right to say what you want about it.
Of course you do, but while calling the game half-baked might be accurate and an honest complaint, calling the design team half-baked is nothing but a personal insult.

Im not willing to shelve my oppinion of anything because the person/persons who designed it are sensative.
Sensitive has nothing to do with it. Many people disagree with Beery's deck gun rates in RUB and RFB. Many people argue about it. Does that mean Beery is "half-baked"? Complaining about the problems is legitimate. Calling the designers names is not.

And as far as waiting for a good game....are you serious? Yes i would wait 3-4 years for a game to come out that was polished and tested. Whats the difference between that and waiting for a greedy company to release patchwork for their software mess?
That makes you special; most of the complainers wouldn't be willing to wait.

[madmike81]

As the consumer who spends his/her money for the game...you have every right to say what you want about it.
Of course you do, but while calling the game half-baked might be accurate and an honest complaint, calling the design team half-baked is nothing but a personal insult.

Im not willing to shelve my oppinion of anything because the person/persons who designed it are sensative.
Sensitive has nothing to do with it. Many people disagree with Beery's deck gun rates in RUB and RFB. Many people argue about it. Does that mean Beery is "half-baked"? Complaining about the problems is legitimate. Calling the designers names is not.

And as far as waiting for a good game....are you serious? Yes i would wait 3-4 years for a game to come out that was polished and tested. Whats the difference between that and waiting for a greedy company to release patchwork for their software mess?
That makes you special; most of the complainers wouldn't be willing to wait.

Well, I guess if being special is a good thing in this instance I will take that as a compliment. Either way lets just agree to disagree about it. I dont want to take away from anyone who enjoys SH4. As for me...it sits on my hardrive...making gravity in this part of TN just a bit more intense.

[AVGWarhawk]

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