Serbian coalition struggle begins

[GakunGak]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6285663.stm

How do you see the future of Serbia: Under Radical or Democrat power?
Who will have a coalition with who?
Personally I'm for radicals, let's hear other comments....:rock:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

Kosovo is the vatican city for eastern Serbian Orthodox im proud that this party has won because they will be sending troops to kosovo to protect it and keep it from joining albania those thieves tried to take it away and change it to kosova. we wil probably allow some to live there but not those that want independence. they have albania they can go back and live over there.

the kosovo situation is for ex like this

Toronto has chinatown right? since chinatown is filled with chinese people they would think this is ours we want independence. now would that be a stupid idea that a area of a city splits off form the rest of the country? that wud be stupid and the residents of the city wud get mad. now imagine if for example a state in the U.S decided they want to split off and become independent just because they for ex have a majority of hispanics or a majority of asian or european or african-american wouldnt u be pissed off that they want to split and create their own country even though there still americans living there??

thats wats kosovo about thats wat hit the fan there. now SOME serbs in kosovo got mad and angry and they decided to form their paramilitary units. they were attacking albanians long before the actual army folllowing the government ever arrived. sadly the truth is even today as we speak albanian terrorists are causing suicide bombings, demolishing eastern orthodox churches that were built hundreds of years ago. the really sad fact is thje government got blamed for things that they never did. there were massacres obviously , carried out by serb paramilitary croat paramilitary and albanian KLA(kosovo liberation army = albanian terrorist seperatists similar to iraq insurgents)

[TteFAboB]

I voted for the EU-guys because it would be interesting to see the EU deal with this. "Interesting" is that word that can be used for anything, anytime, anywhere, sounding almost neutral.

[GakunGak]

Kosovo is the vatican city for eastern Serbian Orthodox im proud that this party has won because they will be sending troops to kosovo to protect it and keep it from joining albania those thieves tried to take it away and change it to kosova. we wil probably allow some to live there but not those that want independence. they have albania they can go back and live over there.

the kosovo situation is for ex like this

Toronto has chinatown right? since chinatown is filled with chinese people they would think this is ours we want independence. now would that be a stupid idea that a area of a city splits off form the rest of the country? that wud be stupid and the residents of the city wud get mad. now imagine if for example a state in the U.S decided they want to split off and become independent just because they for ex have a majority of hispanics or a majority of asian or european or african-american wouldnt u be pissed off that they want to split and create their own country even though there still americans living there??

thats wats kosovo about thats wat hit the fan there. now SOME serbs in kosovo got mad and angry and they decided to form their paramilitary units. they were attacking albanians long before the actual army folllowing the government ever arrived. sadly the truth is even today as we speak albanian terrorists are causing suicide bombings, demolishing eastern orthodox churches that were built hundreds of years ago. the really sad fact is thje government got blamed for things that they never did. there were massacres obviously , carried out by serb paramilitary croat paramilitary and albanian KLA(kosovo liberation army = albanian terrorist seperatists similar to iraq insurgents)
True to last word, my respect!:up:
Now it seems that democrats are gonna unite against radicals, the same scenario following the previous elections... No matter, if that is the case, then it's up to Tadic to solve the Kosovo problem.... That's gonna hurt. The radicals would then have to just sit back and relax, and complain about every s**t the democrats are about to make.....:|\\

[elite_hunter_sh3]

HVALA BOGU (THANK GOD) theres another serb/crno goraz on this forum where u from? ya sam iz crna gora niksic

[GakunGak]

HVALA BOGU (THANK GOD) theres another serb/crno goraz on this forum where u from? ya sam iz crna gora niksic
Zezas [no sh*t?], ja sam iz Meljina, Herceg-Novi!
Man, kako je mali svijet.....:sunny:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

BRRRAATT CRNA GORA W000t incase everyone here dont know me and my friend here are from montenegro u shud all watch casino royale to see wut my country looks like !!!:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock ::up::up:

[CCIP]

Could someone clarify the platform on which the Radicals run?

I'm curious since, well, I have tended to be very sympathetic with Serbia always getting the short end - but the words 'radical' or 'nationalist' certainly cause me to raise an eyebrow (and not in a good way)... :hmm:

[GakunGak]

BRRRAATT CRNA GORA W000t incase everyone here dont know me and my friend here are from montenegro u shud all watch casino royale to see wut my country looks like !!!:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock ::up::up:

To tell you the truth, I haven't seen the movie, but my friend did and says it's not even close to Montenegro...
Kakav je film?
Anyhow, we don't wanna off topic, do we?:arrgh!:

[GakunGak]

Could someone clarify the platform on which the Radicals run?

I'm curious since, well, I have tended to be very sympathetic with Serbia always getting the short end - but the words 'radical' or 'nationalist' certainly cause me to raise an eyebrow (and not in a good way)... :hmm:

My Canadian brother, fear not the Radicals as the bad news on them is from EU & US. See, the radicals are so hated because they want to look after they own people, the Serbs. The thing is that their campaign is not primary for entering the European Union, but the improve the life standard of its citizens... However, they also turn their eye on the Russia which we have the same religion [Ortodox Christian] and similar language: We have Serbian and the Russians the Russian...
Also, Putin supports us with the KOSOVO crysis which is a great help.... The radicals are always in the eye of western media as "terrorists" and must not be allowed to win.... So you see, there is another story.... Do your own research... Slobodan Milosevic killed in Hague, Vojislav Seselj held 3+ years without trial imprisoned... You get the picture.... Nice to see somebody with clear thinking, even so far away....:up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

serbian radical party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Radical_Party

they are actually the good guys just a bad choice of words :-? to represent their party
they want and probably are going to send troops to kosovo under UN supervision to keep kosovo Serbia because kosovo is like the vatican city of eastern serbian orthodox with over 3000 churches most of them over 500 years old with very important relics from the religious period 0-1000 A.D. and we want to protect our heritage and religon as well as history kosovo is the location of some history changing battles between serbia and the ottoman empire(now turkey) and kosovo is where serbia gained there indepence and formally became a country. the only reasons serbs hate albanians is because albanians moved into kosovo from albania and they now want to call it their own even though serbs have been there before albania even existed.:-?:-? thats why i pray kosovo will remain serb and to the albanians in kosovo who are fighting as rebels and terrorists may they NOT rest in peace. they tried to take away our history , heritage, religon, serbs all over the world will never allow it. the instant the UN declares kosovo a independent country serbs all over the world will either cause havoc and a good chance of most moving back to serbia and taking up arms and startin a huge war. IMHO i dont want that to happen that wud be worst case scenario, but if it does happen god forbid i will fly back to my country with my brother and father and fight for my country to the death even though i am 17 i will be trained. thats y its worst case scenario because it will erupt into a huge exodus of serbs into serbia to start a huge war thats the worst europe will have ever had since ww2. :down: and im pretty sure no one here wants to see that happen.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

stupid NATO look wut they are doing to serbia inducing crime

"In March 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_17), 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004), serious unrest in Kosovo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrest_in_Kosovo) led to several deaths, and the destruction of a large number of Orthodox churches and monasteries in the province, as Albanians clashed with Serbs. Several thousand more Kosovo Serbs were reported to have left their homes to seek refuge in Serbia proper or in the Serb-dominated north of Kosovo proper. Since the end of the war, Kosovo has been a major source and destination country in the trafficking of women (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficking_of_women), women forced into prostitution and sexual slavery. The growth in the sex trade industry has been fuelled by NATO forces in Kosovo. [9] (http://web.amnesty.org/actforwomen/stories-9-eng) [10] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1211214,00.html) [11] (http://www.refugeesinternational.org/content/article/detail/4146?PHPSESSID=8cd9d5b0df1ae0bbae8d3ddf647ec715)
The treaty allowing UN troops into Kosovo in 1999 stipulated that the province remains part of Serbia. However, in November 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2005), a United States Department of State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State) official hinted that the independence is possible, just that the Albanians "have to prove that they're worthy of it" and that negotiations on the status of the province would begin in January 2006. [12] (http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=54971)
Most of province's Albanian inhabitants support the independence movement, while Serbs fear it would be a preliminary to further ethnic cleansing and the formation of a "Greater Albania". The Kosovo parliament issued a resolution supporting independence since the "political will of Kosovo people for independence is non negotiable". In the meantime, the Serbian cabinet adopted a resolution opposing full independence for Kosovo"

this is the kind of stuff that happens but never eaches the news because NATO doesnt want the world knowing.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

heres even more proof

"hatever its flaws, during the Cold War years Yugoslavia had remarkably carved out for itself a position of neutrality between the super-powers. It challenged both the Western capitalist and Soviet bureaucratic economic models with its experiments in workers’ self-management and market socialism. It federated the long balkanized Balkans. It industrialized more successfully than any other undeveloped East European country. But in 1990, as the Warsaw Pact countries disintegrated, Yugoslavia was one of the last European holdouts against the neoliberal global order that the US and NATO sought to impose. Thus rebalkanization of the Balkans became the strategic objective of the US, Germany, and their NATO allies. NATO’s bombing in Yugoslavia is an escalation of this policy. US-led NATO imperialism wants to secure pipeline routes and access to Caspian oil and gas in former Soviet republics. It wants to expand profitable exploitation of cheap labor by global corporations. It wants to legitimize NATO’s post cold war mission of being the world’s police force, intervening anywhere unilaterally. It wants to extend US-led hegemony over the entire Eurasian land mass. It wants to justify the enormous expenditures made on new weapons like the Stealth B2 bomber now seeing its first military action in Yugoslavia."

[CCIP]

Well, I'll just watch carefully.

Suffice to say, I'm sympathetic on Kosovo but I don't even know if it can be just 'fixed' so easily now. NATO chased out the Serbian authority from Kosovo, militias took care of the rest. Now it'll be a tricky game to get it back without lots of international pressure against it.

Not surprised to see Putin on board by the way, not to say I entirely trust him either. I am, however, still rather angry at Yeltsin's regime for (among many, many other things) not doing anything to prevent the terrible 1999 mess from happening. I don't know if I would count on entirely Putin now, but there's no doubt he's a different animal politically.

For me it's always been clear that NATO/EU involvement in the Balkans followed an "our sonofabitch" logic while Russia wasn't looking. They've repeatedly attempted to run the one side they didn't like (Serbs) into the ground using whatever means at hand. I hope Russia will be looking now.

Meanwhile I hope Serbia doesn't take anything too far and doesn't let itself slip into extreme nationalism or into pan-Yugoslavian domination plans. As long as it doesn't I think it'll have my best wishes.

(A favorite Russian musician of mine, Yuri Shevchuk, went to Serbia/Kosovo during the 1999 war because he didn't believe what the media was saying. Will always aspire to him for the "see, learn and judge for yourself" attitude about this region :up: )

[GakunGak]

Mate, you forgot one major thing: its not only WOMEN, it's LITLE GIRLS that are transported from Bosnia through Belgrade to KOSOVO by mafia and the girls [7-14yo] are being sold for, say if she is healthy, up to 250$...
A true fact and will post a link as soon as i find it....:cry:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

find that link that will be good proof.

[GakunGak]

It was somewhere on www.infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com), but it's lost in the archives... will work on that now...:ping:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

super testing my sig out YUGOSLAVIA FOREVER!!

edit* fixed sig MUCH better ! XD

[GakunGak]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2004/050704natoforce.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/american_firm_in_bosnia_sex_trade_row.html
Close but not specific what I'm looking for...
More to see:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_elite_sex_ring.html

[GakunGak]

Got very close: http://www.infowars.com/print/nwo/un_nato_sexslaves.htm

[GakunGak]

Not linked to KOSOVO, but strongly recommended:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_moral_meltdown.html


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prisonplanet.com
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[elite_hunter_sh3]

this obviously proves that NATO and the UN are wothless and a waste of time.

[GakunGak]

As long as the Globalists, Illuminati, Masons, Jesuits and other sh*t want's it, we cannot change it, but we can at least warn other people what is going on. Dont't watch TV or news, they are brainwashing you. Use the Internet before Internet 2 comes... Then we are doomed...:dead: Until Jesus Christ comes for a second time.... Then all hell gonna broke loose... Even the patriot missiles won't help them...:doh:

[The Avon Lady]

What a pity you have to reference a crackpot site like Prisonplanet.com to get your story across.

[GakunGak]

What a pity you have to reference a crackpot site like Prisonplanet.com to get your story across.

You know how these guys are, 3 months without a woman and they will mount anything that is a female... My salute goes to Italians in KOSOVO, the west region, they are true soldiers, I've seen it myself when I was on tour on monasteries, at least what's left, 'cos the rest is burned to the ground...:x
The Avon Lady, go to the KOSOVO, declare that you are a Serb, and I guarantee you that you will live no longer than 30 minutes...:shifty:

[Dan D]

The Radicals are the biggest single party, but the pro-EU parties together still took 2/3 of the vote. That part of the Serbs give the middle-finger to the West is of no surprise. NATO bombed the Serbian infrastructure to hell and territories were lost. Any prospects of a “Greater Serbia” promised by Slobodan Milosevic in the past are headed down the toilet.
Instead, Serbia has to reconstruct its country.
Whose fault is it? Some say, it is the West who has demonised Serbia. Others think, it is failed “Greater Serbia” policy of the past decade.

I think, the pro-EU parties will form a block.

I have read, that the EU has made it a pre-condition to begin talks about a Serbian EU-membership that Serbia shows willingness to hand over its war crimes suspects to the ICC in Den Hague and to accept a sovereign Kosovo. Right now, none of the Serbian parties, not even the pro-EU parties support such ideas. If neither the EU nor Serbia will change its mind, there will be no association of Serbia with the EU.
If Serbia is kept locked outside the frontiers of the EU, it could group up with Russia like Turkey will most likely do, if it will be refused to join the EU. Also, Serbia could ask, if they can join the NAFTA.

[GakunGak]

The Radicals are the biggest single party, but the pro-EU parties together still took 2/3 of the vote. That part of the Serbs give the middle-finger to the West is of no surprise. NATO bombed the Serbian infrastructure to hell and territories were lost. Any prospects of a “Greater Serbia” promised by Slobodan Milosevic in the past are headed down the toilet.
Instead, Serbia has to reconstruct its country.
Whose fault is it? Some say, it is the West who has demonised Serbia. Others think, it is failed “Greater Serbia” policy of the past decade.

I think, the pro-EU parties will form a block.

I have read, that the EU has made it a pre-condition to begin talks about a Serbian EU-membership that Serbia shows willingness to hand over its war crimes suspects to the ICC in Den Hague and to accept a sovereign Kosovo. Right now, none of the Serbian parties, not even the pro-EU parties support such ideas. If neither the EU nor Serbia will change its mind, there will be no association of Serbia with the EU.
If Serbia is kept locked outside the frontiers of the EU, it could group up with Russia like Turkey will most likely do, if it will be refused to join the EU. Also, Serbia could ask, if they can join the NAFTA.
Very good thinking, but in fact, NONE of the politicians in Serbia would support Kosovo as indenpedent [not sure if spelled correctly] unless there is a pressure from the west and to be a one from many conditions to enter the EU. Speaking of demonizing from the west, I would not like to adress like that, instead I'm considering as a culture that can not mix with ours due to incompability issues [and now I'm sounding like M$...], however, I would not like to join NAFTA at all... Stories 'bout Great Serbia, Croatia and others are pure BS no matter they existed, but in reality, I don't think we could do something as big as that... The Serbs are aware of A LOT OF AMERICANS that did not support the NATO agression on us and we do not hate Americans, we just hate their leaders... Some don't even know what friendly people are we... I was talking to some families from California who visited my country and they said that they can't believe in what a beautifull country we live. Dan D, my respect!:up: :rock:

[The Avon Lady]

The Avon Lady, go to the KOSOVO, declare that you are a Serb, and I guarantee you that you will live no longer than 30 minutes...:shifty:
I think you misunderstood the point of my previous comment. I already agree with much of what you say about the conflict, NATO, Clinton, the US, the UN, etc. However, I think you can get people's attention with more intelligent articles from reputable writers and sites.

Some articles turn up in the least expected places. You'll find some interesting articles if you search for "Serbia" at IsraPundit.com (http://www.israpundit.com/2006/index.php?s=serbia).

[GakunGak]

The Avon Lady, go to the KOSOVO, declare that you are a Serb, and I guarantee you that you will live no longer than 30 minutes...:shifty:
I think you misunderstood the point of my previous comment. I already agree with much of what you say about the conflict, NATO, Clinton, the US, the UN, etc. However, I think you can get people's attention with more intelligent articles from reputable writers and sites.

Some articles turn up in the least expected places. You'll find some interesting articles if you search for "Serbia" at IsraPundit.com (http://www.israpundit.com/2006/index.php?s=serbia).
I see your point, but well, i see nothing wrong with the Texas guy [Alex Jones], however, many sites are joined in propaganda against us. I don't say Slobodan Milosevic was a saint, far from that, but he should at least have fair trial and basic human rights, which he did not have! Well, to say at least, people don't create wars, goverment's do... Back on topic: Tadic said that negotiations for democratic block will occur after the official results... I'm very interested what's his next move...:hmm:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

just heard some GREAT news !! :rock:

the radical party will be sending in a small serbian military force under the supervision and eye of the UN. the ksoovo albanians played their cards well during the war and got NATO to bomb serbia. now this is a good thing that the party will do because now the albanians cant make up some stories of massacres of albanians because the UN will be there. since the serb army is or hopefully will be moving in then kosovo will be serbian. :up::up::rock::rock::rock: ZIVELI!!! JUGOSLAVIA !!!:rock::rock:

[GakunGak]

just heard some GREAT news !! :rock:

the radical party will be sending in a small serbian military force under the supervision and eye of the UN. the ksoovo albanians played their cards well during the war and got NATO to bomb serbia. now this is a good thing that the party will do because now the albanians cant make up some stories of massacres of albanians because the UN will be there. since the serb army is or hopefully will be moving in then kosovo will be serbian. :up::up::rock::rock::rock: ZIVELI!!! JUGOSLAVIA !!!:rock::rock:

Od koga si cuo to?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

viesti na internet nesam bas 100% sure

"The Radical Party's policies include implementing United Nations Resolution 1244 allowing Serbian police and Army to protect their citizens in the province of Kosovo, a NATO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO) protected territory."

edit* they PLAN to send a military force in to protect the serbs from the constant daily albanian KLA terrorist attack that happened ever since war started kosovo is much like iraq in some ways

[GakunGak]

I rather love wait-and-see approach...:smug:
We'll see what Marti Arhtisari is up to with his "resolution"... That sneaky litle...:rotfl: :arrgh!:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

on ye pisda sto jede govno ie yebe kravu ie kermad :)

[GakunGak]

on ye pisda sto jede govno i yebe kravu i kermad :)
That you said is spoken this way: on je pizda sto jede govno i jebe kravu i krmad;)
100% agree with you...

[elite_hunter_sh3]

LMAO hvala puno i dont know how to type serb lol lived in toronto for 12 yrs forot alot of my language:oops::oops::down::damn:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9487ps6N1s

[GakunGak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9487ps6N1s
The guys performing this are called BEOGRADSKI SINDIKAT- BELGRADE SYNDICATE!
This stuff rocks!:rock:
BTW, you did not forgot our language, just need a litle yune-up...:up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

yep i need a tune up so does my 1997 kawasaki ninja zx7r :damn::damn: and my lexus ls430 2001 :damn::damn: gonna cost me a lot of money this year for insurance:damn::damn: LMAO TALK ABOUT OT disease.!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[GakunGak]

yep i need a tune up so does my 1997 kawasaki ninja zx7r :damn::damn: and my lexus ls430 2001 :damn::damn: gonna cost me a lot of money this year for insurance:damn::damn: LMAO TALK ABOUT OT disease.!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Geez, watch over your head for bumping like that, i recommend aspirin....:smug:

[joea]

Good luck guys, I 'd like to see Kosovo remain Serbian too, and was opposed to the war as well. I am not very optomistic however. :-?

[GakunGak]

Good luck guys, I 'd like to see Kosovo remain Serbian too, and was opposed to the war as well. I am not very optomistic however. :-?

THNX for best wishes, but I fear the worst as now the democrats are taking over [again]. They are all united against single radicals...:down: Seems like the vision is clear and this topic is free to be closed...
Once again, a big THANK YOU to all who support Serbia and are clear-thinkers!!!:sunny:

[Dan D]

Thxfor the compliment, GakunGak, very kind.
A friend of mine was deployed in the KFOR (Kosovo Force) as part of the UN Peacekeeping mission. He told me, that when patrolling the area with his tank which has the German Military emblem on it, which is still the Iron Cross, some of the old Serbs started throwing stones at his tank or began to cry. They must have seen the Iron Cross before (Invasion of Yugoslavia 1941 by Germany joined by Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania;Ustascha-fascists let loose on Serbs).
He is now deployed in Afghanistan where the Iron Cross is new to the people, which is probably why the Afghan locals are more attracted by the blonde females amongst the German soldiers.

To speculate a bit more, about the possible time frame for an association of Serbia with the EU this time. There will be no further EU enlargement until the next elections to the EU Parliament in 2009. The only Balkan states to hop on the bus were Bulgaria and Romania. Croatia e.g., missed the 2007 timeline. At least for the next one or two years, the EU will be busy dealing with EU institutional questions.
For Serbia this means, it won’t be distracted by negotiation talks with the Union until at least 2009. The new Serbian administration can instead put all its efforts in shaping the country and building links within the Balkan region. Serbia is not in the position yet, to blame the Evil Union for all things that are going wrong at home.

As for the new EU members from the Balkan, Romania and Bulgaria:
Did you know that the only measure that is a help against a Romanian is a wooden stake through the heart, all the while when you are dealing with a Bulgar, some well-placed silver bullets will do? ;-)

[GakunGak]

LMAO on that for ol' Serbs:rotfl:
To tell you the truth, the Italians are the best peacekeeping force in KOSOVO, been there, saw that...
However, our "timeline" was intended to be shorter than for Croatia, it was initially enough to transfer Milosevic to Hague. After that, Seselj came next and "the last" on the blacklist are Karadzic & Mladic. Well, seems that the list is going on an' on...:doh: The worst thing right now is that "the demoncrats" under Tadic are united against radicals and i fear to unconditional indenpendance to KOSOVO.:shifty:
That would not be a wise thing to do, I belive...:hmm:
The thing for Romans & Bulgars: We are ortodox christians and it is not our nature to shoot-to-kill somebody:dead: , but instead, well, you get the picture....:arrgh!: :arrgh!: :|\\

[elite_hunter_sh3]

here are my personal owned guns shotguns arent mine they r my dads

the bolt action rifle are mine ZIVELI!! :rock::rock:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5117/dsc00225pw1.jpg

[elite_hunter_sh3]

gotta love guns!!

[GakunGak]

Damn:o
You happen to have a bazooka, Dragunov sniper or Glock 17?:hmm:
The way this topic has gone, we are gonna start the revolution....:rock:
Nice gun collection...:up:

[August]

Nice gun collection, but really ugly feet.

[GakunGak]

Nice gun collection, but really ugly feet.
I'd watch what you say 'round him, Admiral August. I bet he's not afraid to use his firepower...:rotfl:

[August]

Nice gun collection, but really ugly feet. I'd watch what you say 'round him, Admiral August. I bet he's not afraid to use his firepower...:rotfl:

:D I'd bet my firepower would pwn his firepower.

[GakunGak]

What have you got in mind: The Ohio, Typhoon, Oscar II or IX/D2?:arrgh!:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

lol that was my dads cousin's son he is 9 right now back then he was 6 so he likes to run aorund alot on the farm and near the lake. 6yr olds:p:doh:

btw that aint all i have my uncle has a t72 MBT parked by his house he was a commander of a tank division and was allowed to keep his tank. he cant drive it on public streets yet. i got to drive it around on his property (huge farm 20 acres of land)
boy is that t72 faassst. (for a tank:cool:)

o ya i dont think u own this btw its a long double barell shotgun saw the barell and u

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1032/dsc00218gs0.jpg
got a sawed off shottie!!:sunny: which i dont have YET btw

[elite_hunter_sh3]

and a ak47 paratrooper special forces edition :rock::rock::rock:which is mine :rock::rock: and im 17:rock::rock::arrgh!: god bless yugoslavia and rid the country of albanian terrorists in kosovo.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3079/ak47gm2.jpg

[elite_hunter_sh3]

btw thats a special grip that my dad got for his ak cuz its not wooden version is not there its a folding version for compactness and the grip helps improve accuracy by allowing less recoil to be forced on te shooter

edit* i had to edit that ak pic there were some thing i did not want the rest of the members to see because 1. explosive related material
2. the government wud be all over my ass.
3. i just cant show you because its not good stuff to look at. it makes u fill up with the urge to go hunting or shooting something. enywho thats my gun collection cheers. im going on vacation in 2008 for 3-4 months and ill bring pics of the mg42 and RPK machine gun off the t72, my handgun TT33 tokarev, and a RPD machine gun (like ak but longer barell and 100 rd O drum magazine)

[elite_hunter_sh3]

and my uncle whos also a dam good shot taught me secrets on how to shoot from far distances. highest i went was a little over 500m without a scope. with a scope around 1.1 kilometers on a .50cal yugoslav black arrow m94 high powered anti vehicle rifle:rock::rock:

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/black-arrow1.jpg


and my personal side arm (mines has light wooden handle carved by my dad)
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/zastava_m57.jpg

[GakunGak]

Man, you have some spare parts or you sell something?:rotfl:
I noticed that you have this instrument on the wall, which reminds me of our Montenegrian music instrument called GUSLE.
Pretty good firearms collection, quite impressive, concerning that you have a tank....
Still, I would not recommend a live war to anyone although I have lived one [NATO agression could be considered as a war]...

[elite_hunter_sh3]

nope .50 cal sniper was supposed to be taken away by the UN police but my uncle was a respected military commander who didnt commit any massacres or stupid s*** got pissed off when they came and he said if they come into his house and disrespect his property and family he will kill all who came 1 by 1 with his sniper rifle and he held it right in front of them and they slowly backed off and left i was there and we then burned a U.S flag cuz it was americans who had a reallly REALLY thick southern accent. that was also 3 yrs ago. my uncle then taught me how to shoot. and after we scared the poop out o the UN cops my uncle told my dad and i got a surprise when i got back to my hometown in montenegro. my dad said how was trebinjei said great we scared off a bunch of cops and i got shoot a .50 sniper rifle he said in that box is something that now belongs to u i opened it and it was a m57 i was sooo happy :rock::rock::rock:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

so now the sniper rifle is well hidden cuz UN are douc****** now:p:p:p i had the ak then last year they needed it for new recuits. and since it was for montenegro army my dad proudly said go right ahead. they took it and will be returning it in good condition or a brand new unused ak will be given to my dads family back home they are supposed to return it on march 1 2009.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

no one likes war hell i hate it look wat war has done to yugoslavia tore it apart caused stupid capitalism democracy to form and now drugs, crime, mafia, terrorism in kosovo by albanians. but if someting big happenes in next 5 years regarding kosovo and albanians moving to montegro or emigrating there. i will move back to my hometown and rejoin my group of friends who are armed(crack down on albanians, cept women and children and seniors, i was second in command and every now and ten i call and check up on em.

edit* yes thats a real gusle worth around 25,000 euro right now its about 90 yrs old and it plays better quality then newer 1's cuz of age of skin and wood. it was checked by a museum specialist and was appraised . but heres no way we r selling it its staying in this family forever.!

[GakunGak]

If Albanians come to Montenegro, we have nothing to defend ourselves...
1: The goverment took our weapons.
2: We have no military: no air, ground or sea coverage.
3: Local gang members are better equipped than police.
We aren't together with Serbia 'cos of "democracy" and who is to defend us in case of an attack?:hmm:

[Gizzmoe]

I would like to remind everyone that it is against basic forum etiquette to make multiple consecutive posts within a few minutes of each other. If you forgot something to say use the Edit button to edit your post. And again, please don´t hijack threads. Thanks!

[GakunGak]

I would like to remind everyone that it is against basic forum etiquette to make multiple consecutive posts within a few minutes of each other. If you forgot something to say use the Edit button to edit your post. And again, please don´t hijack threads. Thanks!
I would be very gratefull if you could point out what I'm doing wrong so i can comply with your suggestion. It was never my intention to ruin this forum/thread, so please accept my apology for any damage, but please, I would like to know what I did so I won't do it again.:know:

[Gizzmoe]

I wasn´t directly talking about something you did. Check page three and you´ll see what I meant... :)

[GakunGak]

I wasn´t directly talking about something you did. Check page three and you´ll see what I meant... :)
I see, my bad.:arrgh!: :rotfl:
To tell you the truth, i never imagined this topic would make it to 4 pages...

[Fish]

How do you guys think about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic? :hmm:

[GakunGak]

How do you guys think about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic? :hmm:
I truly hope they would never be captured!:rock: How would you feel if you are on Carla Del Ponte's black list?:ping:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

dont forget that these were the 2 generals who went rogue and didnt listen to milosevic basically framing him by making stupid NATO believe that milosevic was behind the massacres. they were the ones who made the genocides they thought by mass killings they would be able to solve the problems, obviously we hate the croats and albanians i mean who doesnt:hmm: , they in fact made it worse. now the reason y the serb government doesnt wanna helo find em is because they 1. hate the victims which is obvious cuz they started the wars. 2. they were already bombed for "commiting genocides" and now they dont wanna get involved with them enymore.

[GakunGak]

I belive that one of them got his daughter masacared in Belgrade...:damn:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

yea its pretty sad. hopefully everything will fix itself.

[GakunGak]

yea its pretty sad. hopefully everything will fix itself.

As a matter of fact, it's FUBAR: *******ED UP BEYOND ALL REPAIR AND RECOGNITION...:hmm:
Well, me personally, I just wanna peace...:rock:

[Happy Times]

My thoughts on Kosovo.

As i know little history, i never accepted the NATO bombings and think there is no question about that Kosovo belongs to Serbia. Though i think Milosevic was crappy leader for his people and you would have deserved someone better.

I wouldnt count on the Russians too much, they have more interests to keep in terms with EU than with their slav brethren.

I dont like Ahtisaari much ( socialdemocrat and long career in UN :roll: ) but cant believe he would be stupid enough to recommend independence for Kosovo. It would be hypocritical as he is born in Finnish Karelia and opposes the Russian occupation of those areas. Karelia is to Finland what Kosovo is to you.
Maybe you should lobby him on this point??

Many of my army buddies have served in Kosovo on the Finnish Batallion and all have praised the Sebs they have met and had to protect from attacks.
I cant even mention all they have said about the Albans, organized crime, drugs , weapons, stolen cars from Germany is the picture ive gotten from them.
This is kinda funny as most of them went there with the demonized picture they had gotten from the media war.

Finally as your military doctrine and geography is very close to ours, i could consider coming over myself, if not having to confront my own nationality on the otherside.:cool:

[GakunGak]

True that we deserved someone better than Milosevic, but world politics takes place now and people do stupid things for money....:hmm:
Especially that Ahtisaari... Even the elections in Serbia and Montenegro are staged by EU/US....:smug:
So much for democracy... Like I give a damn, the goverment will be responsible for anything and radicals will just have to sit back, relax, taking notes and complain about anything that "demoncrats" do...:doh:

[Fish]

How do you guys think about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic? :hmm:
I truly hope they would never be captured!:rock: How would you feel if you are on Carla Del Ponte's black list?:ping:

Mladic is a mass murder he should be in jail right now.

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%80_%D1%83_%D0%A1 %D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D 0%B8

And:
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D 1%86%D0%B0

[elite_hunter_sh3]

How do you guys think about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic? :hmm: I truly hope they would never be captured!:rock: How would you feel if you are on Carla Del Ponte's black list?:ping:
Mladic is a mass murder he should be in jail right now.

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%80_%D1%83_%D0%A1 %D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D 0%B8

And:
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D 1%86%D0%B0


like i said before mladic and karadzic are people who contributed heavily to screwing up yugoslavia. thanks for also finding evidence. milosec was a good leader. he sent the serb army to kosovo to stop the paramilitary(rogue) serbs from killing albanians. then the UN stopped them cuz the albanians were bitching that the serb government was attacking civilians and massacring them. kudos to happy times for supporting my evidence that albanians are terrorists and they are attacking and killing serbs in kosovo. they are greedy they want more land and they are trying to take away kosovo. the problem is our history and our heritage is based off kosovo. it is the backbone of yugoslavia and all orthodox slavs. the reaosn y is because the slavs defeated the ottoman turk invaders and churches over 800 years old with very important relics are being bombed by those stupid KLA terrorists. the thing is recent news are making me have the urge to go to kosov and kill all albanians women , men and children, now i reliase how the paramilitary felt during the wars.:nope::nope::nope::nope::cry:

[Happy Times]

How do you guys think about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic? :hmm: I truly hope they would never be captured!:rock: How would you feel if you are on Carla Del Ponte's black list?:ping:
Mladic is a mass murder he should be in jail right now.

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%80_%D1%83_%D0%A1 %D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D 0%B8

And:
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D 1%86%D0%B0


like i said before mladic and karadzic are people who contributed heavily to screwing up yugoslavia. thanks for also finding evidence. milosec was a good leader. he sent the serb army to kosovo to stop the paramilitary(rogue) serbs from killing albanians. then the UN stopped them cuz the albanians were bitching that the serb government was attacking civilians and massacring them. kudos to happy times for supporting my evidence that albanians are terrorists and they are attacking and killing serbs in kosovo. they are greedy they want more land and they are trying to take away kosovo. the problem is our history and our heritage is based off kosovo. it is the backbone of yugoslavia and all orthodox slavs. the reaosn y is because the slavs defeated the ottoman turk invaders and churches over 800 years old with very important relics are being bombed by those stupid KLA terrorists. the thing is recent news are making me have the urge to go to kosov and kill all albanians women , men and children, now i reliase how the paramilitary felt during the wars.:nope::nope::nope::nope::cry:

You really should ease on the temper in the balkans though. If you want to win the media war you cant be saying things like that about killing women and children. Im assuming you dont really mean that? Would you really feel better or worse? Nothing bad killing enemy in armed battle in defence or just cause but even that will leave it marks on you. Milosevic was a big cause to the war because he had embarrased a lot of people in the west before, the bombings might have not happened if he wouldnt of been president. I think he thought more of himself than his people for not stepping down.

[Gizzmoe]

the thing is recent news are making me have the urge to go to kosov and kill all albanians women , men and children, now i reliase how the paramilitary felt during the wars.:nope::nope::nope::nope::cry:

Keep your extremism out of this forum.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

what im trying to prove is that this is the feeling those paramilitary soldiers had. and if a human is really really angry they are known to go out of control and thats what those rogue units did. and i dont support killing innocent women and children , but if they harbor and support the terrorists in kosovo and supply them with weapons, shelter and food, then they are considered the enemy.

[GakunGak]

I see your point, but although Wikipedia is a FREE enciclopedia, it does not mean that a historic fact is 100% accurate, take for example Montenegrian Ortodox church. I live in Montenegro and there is only SERBIAN ortodox church. So, the fact may be invalid...:ping:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

GakunGak my slavic brother the time has come for it will be soon a war will start in our slavic land of yugoslavia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6321147.stm

be prepared to fight my brother as they wil try to take montenegro in a greedy attempt for more land. if a war starts i will fly back to fight.:rock::rock::rock::rock:

[The Avon Lady]

I really have no love and affection for either side here but at least I have an idea where each side is coming from.

In the news: Kosovo jihadists show map of areas "where Christians have not been expelled or murdered yet" (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015059.php).

Uhuh.

[GakunGak]

Wow, what a scary thought... They didn't kill remaining Christians YET....:ping:
Maybe it is the time to call my Russian brothers to deploy their Typhoon and to finish this matter in the most civilized way: Nuke 'em till they glow!
Saw that on someones signature...:hmm:

[The Avon Lady]

Maybe it is the time to call my Russian brothers to deploy their Typhoon and to finish this matter in the most civilized way: Nuke 'em till they glow!
Your Russian "brothers" have been thinking otherwise (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010865.php) for quite some time.

EDIT: Serbia...............

Sounds like Israel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070202/ap_on_re_eu/un_kosovo;_ylt=Asnh0KP5jt3B7X2fvjlVqOWs0NUE;_ylu=X 3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-).

[Konovalov]

Quite frankly I am not sure what to say about this whole thread. Very disturbing comes to mind. :nope: :nope:

[Gizzmoe]

elite_hunter_sh3, I have moved your latest post to a new thread, it was off-topic:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104990

[GakunGak]

Maybe it is the time to call my Russian brothers to deploy their Typhoon and to finish this matter in the most civilized way: Nuke 'em till they glow!
Your Russian "brothers" have been thinking otherwise (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010865.php) for quite some time.

EDIT: Serbia...............

Sounds like Israel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070202/ap_on_re_eu/un_kosovo;_ylt=Asnh0KP5jt3B7X2fvjlVqOWs0NUE;_ylu=X 3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-).
I can't figure out how the first link applies to Kosovo and I can't digure out how the second link applies to Russia? Kinda confused here...:doh:
However, it is an important thing that Tadic refused a Kosovo indenpendance...:88)

[elite_hunter_sh3]

updated news on kosovo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6325747.stm

[GakunGak]

Despite the BBC news, still the Serbia has support from Russia as our ally given a statement of Sergei Ivanov that if Serbia does not agree with the Arthisaari plan, Russia will consider that plan only as a suggestion....
That could put us in a very serious position like sanctions...:shifty:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

considering the fact that a lousy bunch of rebel terrorists (KLA) in kosovo managed to convince the UN and NATO that genocide was happening on a huge scale
(it was but on a mich much smaller scale commited by paramilitary anti government troops) its dissapointing to see the whole world against serbia.:nope: even though they are innoncent and the civilians have to pay for the crimes of paramilitary groups and generals

[GakunGak]

Still they cannot proclaim indenpendance if they want to avoid a war... Scre**ng with Serb.... Never wise....
I always liked Vin Diesel...:rock:
Probably their tactic would be independent from Serbia and Albania under Nato/UN protectorate....:doh:

[joea]

What about partition and/or population exchange, as between Greece and Turkey in 1922? :-? It's a poor solution but better than independence for all of Kosovo. :shifty:

[GakunGak]

May not work as we have churches/monastires there and other cultural heritage... Still, it will not guarantee the safety of Serbs there...
However, your proposal is worth a consideration, but not a definitive option...
It's all up to Serbia now to solve this major problem, but i hope for the best solution, just to avoid war, if possible...:-?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

but if war is the final option then war i will go. if kosovo does split up and the albanians in montenegro decided to pull any of the b.s they did in kosovo i can gladly say they are signing their death warrants.

[GakunGak]

I'd ease up a litle it as of the following facts:
1. There's no army in Montenegro to assist Serbia into war
2. The economy is not sufficient to keep with the demands of moders warfare
3. Ageing equipment with no fuel for the tanks/helo.
4. Naval force is a total disaster...

Tell me something I missed.
So, to conclude, we are not ready at all to go to open war with Albanians, but if we did, I estimate about 45% of possibility to win....
I'd rather continue to discuss all and any options because this is not a small problem fro the Balkan/EU. Being that agressive, we could get our asses kicked by US/NATO like in Milosevic case.... Not only they would use cassette bombs, hell, they could even use nukes. Then what?:arrgh!:
I heard that during conflict with NATO, 4 US SSN Los Angeles class fast attack submarines were in our coastal waters and were firing tomahawks....:dead:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

updated news on kosovo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6347221.stm

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/11/kosovo.protest.ap/

2 protests 1 peaceful 1 turned deadly, what next????


btw the brig smelled like sewer water but the food was ok need to send the janitors in for the weekly cleaning:arrgh!:;)

[GakunGak]

updated news on kosovo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6347221.stm

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/11/kosovo.protest.ap/

2 protests 1 peaceful 1 turned deadly, what next????


btw the brig smelled like sewer water but the food was ok need to send the janitors in for the weekly cleaning:arrgh!:;)
Who knows, maybe concentration camps, or Aushwitz?:damn:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

not that far, thats a seperate road in different conditions, it wont be possible to go that way with UN and america foreing policy these days. plus EU germany is cracking down on anti-semitism etc..

edit* good to be back :P

[GakunGak]

not that far, thats a seperate road in different conditions, it wont be possible to go that way with UN and america foreing policy these days. plus EU germany is cracking down on anti-semitism etc..

edit* good to be back :P
One Serb that returned to KOSOVO got killed, so it's a clear message for others, i belive....:shifty:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

from the facebook group "its kosovo not kosov'a"

from the admins



Braco i Sestre Srbi,

U nasoj grupi i u nasem narodu nema sloge.
U ovom trenutku kao nikada prije u nasoj istoriji vazno je da smo slozni. Zaboravimo nase razlike i ujedinimo se oko jednog SRPSKOG SRCA. Od Turaka do danas nase je srce neslomljivo. Zamislite sto mozemo uciniti, kakve ciljeve mozemo postici ako smo slozni.
Nije vazno odakle smo, kuda idemo, kuda nas sudba nosi; u nasim grudima kuca jedno Srpsko Srce.
Ne trosimo nasu snagu i inteligenciju na svadju i neslogu. Jedno SRPSKO SRCE kuce u svima nama i povezuje nas. ONE FOR ALL, ALL FOR ONE.

S postovanjem,

Ines

[The Avon Lady]

Kosovo (and Europe) in the balance (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015235.php).

Good luck, Europe.

[GakunGak]

from the facebook group "its kosovo not kosov'a"

from the admins



Braco i Sestre Srbi,

U nasoj grupi i u nasem narodu nema sloge.
U ovom trenutku kao nikada prije u nasoj istoriji vazno je da smo slozni. Zaboravimo nase razlike i ujedinimo se oko jednog SRPSKOG SRCA. Od Turaka do danas nase je srce neslomljivo. Zamislite sto mozemo uciniti, kakve ciljeve mozemo postici ako smo slozni.
Nije vazno odakle smo, kuda idemo, kuda nas sudba nosi; u nasim grudima kuca jedno Srpsko Srce.
Ne trosimo nasu snagu i inteligenciju na svadju i neslogu. Jedno SRPSKO SRCE kuce u svima nama i povezuje nas. ONE FOR ALL, ALL FOR ONE.

S postovanjem,

Ines

Ines, as Ines Cudna?:rotfl:
Kidding, great speech!:up:

[GakunGak]

Kosovo (and Europe) in the balance (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015235.php).

Good luck, Europe.
I like the comments...
Good one!:up: :smug:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

:up: :rock: :rock: WOW:o :rock:

i mean WOW that is 100% description of kosovo. WOW:o :up:

if only the rest of the world thought like that:cry: , thanks for posting that, its some good stuff im gonna show it to my parents.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

from avon's posted website link:rock:
"
Dozens of churches, monasteries and shrines have been destroyed or damaged since 1999 in Kosovo, the cradle of Orthodox Christianity in Serbia. The Serbian Orthodox Church lists nearly 150 attacks on holy places, which often involve desecration of altars, vandalism of icons and the ripping of crosses from Church rooftops. A March 2004 rampage by Albanian mobs targeted Serbs and 19 people, including eight Kosovo Serbs, were killed and more than 900 injured, according Agence France Press. The UN mission in Kosovo, AFP said, reported that 800 houses and 29 Serb Orthodox churches and monasteries – some of them dating to the 14th century -- were torched during the fighting. NATO had to rush 2,000 extra troops to the province to stop the destruction.
All this happened despite the presence of UN peacekeeping forces. According to news reports posted by the American Council for Kosovo, Albanian separatists are opposing the expansion of military protection of Christian holy sites by UN forces. A main concern of Christians is the fate of the Visoki Decani Monastery – Kosovo's only UNESCO World Heritage Site."

[elite_hunter_sh3]

and a VERY important quote

"If Kosovo is torn away from Yugoslavia do not underestimate the danger of the potential conflicts that will follow.
Albanians have been eyeing the Albanian concept for years, this is where they believe they have territorial rights to areas including northern Greece, The former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia , Montenegro, Bosnia and Yugoslavia.
These countries could all be drawn into a massive war which would obviously draw Turkey in because of Greece' involvement, which in turn could become a potential World War.
As we speak concessions of allowing Albanian flags to fly in the FYROM are allowed in areas that they make up the majority. This country is hanging by a thread, and this was a side effect to the bombing of Yugoslavia. The damage done to this region by the US led invasion is staggering.
These events can really happen and all because of a criminal desire by western countries to appease the Muslims they fear so much."

[GakunGak]

I think it is the time to contact our Russian brothers and have them borrow us a Typhoon or two...
If there is a peacefull resolution for this conflict which does not include indenpendance, I'm for it!:|\\

[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17028363/

YAY:rock: :rock: :rock: :up: :arrgh!: :|\\ :sunny:

now the russians actually have something to help us!!
go typhoon class, maybe we can get some attack class subs to wipe out those pesky los angles class subs from the adriatic, while world war 3 starts:damn: :damn: :damn: :doh: :nope:

[nikimcbee]

Interesting thread.:hmm: I really don't know what to think. Could someone explain to me the different sides in the region. I know the Serbs are Orthodox, but what about everybody else? I worked with some Serbs during the Nato bombing. They weren't too happy.

I've been looking at youtube footage of the civil war:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rebPhqdxvk0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y3PgFW7uBAQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Df4e_nL-SQ0&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mM086rEqmiY

Have you seen the film "No Man's Land?" Pretty interesting stuff.

[GakunGak]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17028363/

YAY

now the russians actually have something to help us!!
go typhoon class, maybe we can get some attack class subs to wipe out those pesky los angles class subs from the adriatic, while world war 3 starts:damn: :damn: :damn: :doh: :nope:
I just hope it works.. Remember the BULAVA test, 3 times in a row and failed....
Me personally, I'd like the AKULA, ALPHA, Typhoon, Oscar 2 & Victor 3, for surface Pyotr Veliki, Kirov and Kuznetov...:arrgh!:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

the 3rd video is american propaganda thats not a real documentary.:nope::nope::nope:

[GakunGak]

the 3rd video is american propaganda thats not a real documentary.:nope::nope::nope:
Indeed, as i think also for "The Death of Yugoslavia"....:damn: :damn: :damn:
The last vid rocks!!!!:rock:

[irish1958]

Don't count on the Russians. They have been sucking up to the jihadist now for several years.
Kosovo is Serbian and should remain ever so.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

thanks for support its greatly aprreciated considering UN and NATO are against us (dam their stupid foreign police the world policy:nope::nope:)

anyone here gonna sign the no independence for kosovo petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/905791187?ltl=1171141856

[GakunGak]

thanks for support its greatly aprreciated considering UN and NATO are against us (dam their stupid foreign police the world policy:nope::nope:)

anyone here gonna sign the no independence for kosovo petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/905791187?ltl=1171141856
I already did under Dragan Jovanov, Serbia and Montenegro...:rock:

[The Avon Lady]

Strong and justified chastisement: Dupes of the jihad (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/015267.php).

[elite_hunter_sh3]

so to solve the problem of the muslim jihadist alqaeda threat do we yugoslavs(torthodox) bomb them into dust and take back our land which is rightfully ours????:doh: jus a question.

[GakunGak]

so to solve the problem of the muslim jihadist alqaeda threat do we yugoslavs(torthodox) bomb them into dust and take back our land which is rightfully ours????:doh: jus a question.
No need to "carpet bomb" them....
We shall just kindly ask them to back away....:smug:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

not woorrkkiing:nope::nope:

plan B goes in effect now :know::arrgh!::|\\:rock::rock::rock:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1815000/images/_1816706_bbc300bombing.jpg





(if ya dont got the gist of it by now, Plan B means wipe them out with conventional warhead)



if all else fails

PLAN C!! (with typhoons)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Peacekeeper-missile-testing.jpg/792px-Peacekeeper-missile-testing.jpg

http://www.sedmoykanal.com/data/images2003/09/18/nuclear%20explosion%20from%20a%20hydrogen%20bomb-300.jpg





(Plan c = low yeild tactical nuclear strikes on albanian capital and kosovo borders to albania to prevent further illegal migration:arrgh!:


worst case scenario : we assasinate a prince and start WW3 (hehe thank you WW1)

[GakunGak]

You got it all pretty covered, don't you???:p
You seem to have tactics like the Desert Fox himself....:hmm:
Anyhow, what does the second pic represent: The Satellite Killers or what?
Great pic, I put it on my desktop...:rock: :up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

You got it all pretty covered, don't you???:p
You seem to have tactics like the Desert Fox himself....:hmm:
Anyhow, what does the second pic represent: The Satellite Killers or what?
Great pic, I put it on my desktop...:rock: :up:

Unites States Peacekeeper ICBM MIRV(Multiple Independent Reentry vehicle) Mirv dummy warheads simulating what an peacekeeper attack would look like:rock::rock:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/icbm/lgm-118.htm

[GakunGak]

I fail to understand how the weapon of mass destruction is named as a "peacemaker".... It would be more better like "warmaker"....:damn:

[ASWnut101]

They were ment to be dropped on crazy third world nations attempting to nuke themselves with typhoons, keeping the peace through force. Hence: Peacekeepers.:dead:

[GakunGak]

Still I find it to be a total BS!!!:rotfl:
Peacekeeping, my a*s...:|\\

[Tchocky]

Weapons systems often have hilarious names.

The F-15.

Hey, it's a fighter!

No no, Eagle. Bird. Big bird

*throws breadcrumbs, dead rat*

[elite_hunter_sh3]

f15 is poop on a stick compared to the mig 31 or the yugoslavian air force mig 29

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ef/MiG-29_SRB2.jpg:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

look at the size of those engines omg!!!

[elite_hunter_sh3]

lol sorry for high resoulution picture lol :oops::oops::oops::damn::rotfl::doh:

[ASWnut101]

heh, your comparison of the F-15 to a Mig-29 makes me laugh. F-15 can chew up a Mig-29. Hell, a F-18 can kill the German `29's, who are considered the best European Air force (proven time and time again by "Red October" training exercise). And guess what? We are already replacing the `15 with the F-22, just so other nations don't get too close to our level of Air-Superiority.:yep: Now THAT would make short work of just about anything in the sky.

[August]

Yeah and what's Serbia have, about 4-5 of them?

[ASWnut101]

Probably not even that many. F-22 can engage eight at a time, limited only by the amount of weapons it carries.:yep:


Oh, and good luck trying to aquire your typhoons! Hope they come with powerplants too!

[GakunGak]

Probably not even that many. F-22 can engage eight at a time, limited only by the amount of weapons it carries.:yep:


Oh, and good luck trying to aquire your typhoons! Hope they come with powerplants too!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
That was good...
Personally, I like F/A 18: Hornet, as for our Air Superiority, we still have a good number, but a good percentage is in a stand-down 'cos there's not enough fuel to fly these things... Still, we got one of the best special operating units in the world, like 63rd parachute battalion http://www.63padobranska.co.yu/main.htm and they are a true elite. :rock: :smug:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ahh our red berets, these gus are crack war veteraned troops, i for one wanna see them take americas seals or delata force squads fight them hand to hand combat 1 vs 1 by elimination and we knows whos gonna win:up::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:


btw the mig 31 will tear apart the f18 and the f15 but not the f22

http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/mig/31/images/mig31-4.jpg

[Konovalov]

btw the mig 31 will tear apart the f18 and the f15 but not the f22

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Now that is the funniest and most ridiculous quote of the day.

The picture is nice though. :up:

[GakunGak]

I agree with sh3 hunter for the migs......:up: :rock: :rock:

[August]

ahh our red berets, these gus are crack war veteraned troops

Veterans of what exactly? Ethnic cleansing of Bosnian civilians? :roll:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

now you are the one who doesnt know their history u goof, the red berets were not inolved in the so called massacres that took place, these units followed the government, the units who did commit the crimes were not following the governemnt and they went rogue and started killing civilians, so get ur goddam facts right before u start blabber mouthing every serb on the planet.:nope:

[Konovalov]

so get ur goddam facts right before u start blabber mouthing every serb on the planet.:nope:

From what I read it appeared that August was referring to the "red berets" and not "every serb on the planet" as you refer to.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

and btw my dad was a capitan in the special forces for yugoslav army and his units were not sent to fight in bosnia, we did fight the croats though and we kicked their asses until the serb minority got out of croatia, then we backed off then Un came in . his company was never sent to fight and he can recolect that most of the red beret companies were put on standby ready to fight but they never did.

[August]

now you are the one who doesnt know their history u goof, the red berets were not inolved in the so called massacres that took place, these units followed the government, the units who did commit the crimes were not following the governemnt and they went rogue and started killing civilians, so get ur goddam facts right before u start blabber mouthing every serb on the planet.:nope:

Hey kid, YOU were the one who claimed they were "crack war veteraned troops". All I was asking is what war did they earn this status?

As for your "rouge" units. Why didn't your "crack war veteraned" paratroops attempt to stop them? I mean you claim these guys are better than US Navy Seals and Delta Force, surely a few rouge militiamen would pose no problem for them right?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

now you are the one who doesnt know their history u goof, the red berets were not inolved in the so called massacres that took place, these units followed the government, the units who did commit the crimes were not following the governemnt and they went rogue and started killing civilians, so get ur goddam facts right before u start blabber mouthing every serb on the planet.:nope:
Hey kid, YOU were the one who claimed they were "crack war veteraned troops". All I was asking is what war did they earn this status?

As for your "rouge" units. Why didn't your "crack war veteraned" paratroops attempt to stop them? I mean you claim these guys are better than US Navy Seals and Delta Force, surely a few rouge militiamen would pose no problem for them right?
these werent just rogue militia men they had tanks, artillery men and alot of em. yugoslav war agaisnt croatia, when they started massacring serb minority inside croatia. my dad was ordered to northern bosnia to fight against croatian army.

Commanders Franjo Tuđman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franjo_Tu%C4%91man) (President of Croatia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Croatia))
Anton Tus (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anton_Tus&action=edit) (Chief of Staff of Croatian Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Army) 1991-1992)
Janko Bobetko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janko_Bobetko) (Chief of Staff of Croatian Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Army) 1992-1995)
Milan Martić (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Marti%C4%87)
(President of Republic of Serb Krajina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Serb_Krajina))
Mile Mrkšić (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile_Mrk%C5%A1i%C4%87)
(Commander in Chief of the Army of Republic of Serb Krajina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Serb_Krajina))
Veljko Kadijević (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veljko_Kadijevi%C4%87)
(Chief of Staff of Yugoslav People's Army)

Casualties Croatian sources:
10,668 died[1] (http://www.hrt.hr/arhiv/tudjman/domovinski.htm)[2] (http://www.veritas.org.yu/bilteni/Bilten_v.pdf)
37,180 wounded[3] (http://www.revija-socijalna-politika.com/ojs2/index.php/rsp/article/view/225/229)
2,915 disappeared[4] (http://www.hrt.hr/arhiv/tudjman/domovinski.htm)[5] (http://www.veritas.org.yu/bilteni/Bilten_v.pdf)International sources:
196,000 displaced during the war[6] (http://www.hrw.org/reports/1995/Croatia.htm)Serbian sources:
4,686 died[7] (http://www.veritas.org.yu/bilteni/Bilten_v.pdf)
1,373 disappeared[8] (http://www.veritas.org.yu/bilteni/Bilten_v.pdf)
447,316 displaced[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence#endnote_serb_displace d)Croatian sources:
see note: [10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence#endnote_croat_displac ed)International sources:
see note: [11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence#endnote_internat_disp laced)

[August]

So in other words you're saying it was more than a few rouge units doing the massacres in Bosnia and that your vaunted Red Berets were not only powerless to stop them, they didn't even try, and neither did your government or the Serbian people themselves. And you seriously wonder why the world sees Serbia as a pariah nation? :rock::rock::rock::rock:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

So in other words you're saying it was more than a few rouge units doing the massacres in Bosnia and that your vaunted Red Berets were not only powerless to stop them, they didn't even try, and neither did your government or the Serbian people themselves. And you seriously wonder why the world sees Serbia as a pariah nation? :rock::rock::rock::rock:


we had the power to stop them we didnt care because we are rascist i admit that personally , so then we didnt give a **** about bosnian muslims cuz they formed a seperatist group and wanted to create a pure islamic state, so we thought hey those rogue units are already fighting em, so we let them do the dirty work for us and we dont care since they didnt even listen to us they started killing civilians, we dont give a s*** because we were busy with croatia and the KLA terrorist group in kosovo at the time so we just let them do their own fight.

[August]

we had the power to stop them we didnt care because we are rascist i admit that personally , so then we didnt give a **** about bosnian muslims cuz they formed a seperatist group and wanted to create a pure islamic state, so we thought hey those rogue units are already fighting em, so we let them do the dirty work for us and we dont care since they didnt even listen to us they started killing civilians, we dont give a s*** because we were busy with croatia and the KLA terrorist group in kosovo at the time so we just let them do their own fight.

Remember that the next time you trumpet how unfairly the world treats Serbia.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

we had the power to stop them we didnt care because we are rascist i admit that personally , so then we didnt give a **** about bosnian muslims cuz they formed a seperatist group and wanted to create a pure islamic state, so we thought hey those rogue units are already fighting em, so we let them do the dirty work for us and we dont care since they didnt even listen to us they started killing civilians, we dont give a s*** because we were busy with croatia and the KLA terrorist group in kosovo at the time so we just let them do their own fight.
Remember that the next time you trumpet how unfairly the world treats Serbia.
they do treat us unfairly because most of the worlds nations government are stupid and dont know the real story of kosovo. world media blew kosovo wayy out of proportion and instead of showing the real story

(which was albanians were in kosovo but were small minority, then they illegally immigrate to kosovo and create a majority by driving serbs out of their homes and killing them, then they ask for independence, kosovo is our land, they come in and ask for independence, i say "go back to where u came from " because they dont deserve to be there. they destroy our churches and kill our people we have a right to defend ourselves from any enemy") they show the few hundred civilians who were killed in kosovo and say "OMG OMG genocide 1000000000 ..... people are dying bla bla bla bomb the serbs bomb those commie bastards" personally right now i cant wait till 1 country teaches america a lesson not to go bombing countries illegally, i dont care which country or where in the states, but i hope it happens within my lifetime. i can easily prove any points i made on kosovo. just ask and ill show it

[Konovalov]

I said this back on page 5, post 83 of this thread: Quite frankly I am not sure what to say about this whole thread. Very disturbing comes to mind. :nope: :nope:Nothing has changed. :down:

Perhaps it is time to let this one end after 8 pages.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

yep considering theres a good portion of brainwashed bomb first ask questions later people. o well

time for pics yay!

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/macedonia/photos01/mac0079.jpg

[elite_hunter_sh3]

new airplane rivaling euro fighter typhoon j-10 and f22

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/4313/Novi2.JPG

[elite_hunter_sh3]

lol even i didnt know this we have nuclear submarines !!!!

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/4316/p0050744.jpg

[GakunGak]

That ain't no nuke, we have 4 diesels....
As a matter a fact, we have one russian nuke, but this pic is of a diesel...
For the rest of the thread, I agree with SH3 Elite Hunter 100%.
Also I would like to remind people to not to forget NATO bombing of Serbia and Montenegro in the 1999...
Not a pleasant agression, let me tell you, 'cos I live here and I know what they did....

[Takeda Shingen]

Konovalov is right: This discussion has concluded and is rambling in every which direction. It is time for it to sink.