Download the GWX RENOWN CHART - updated

[raduz]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/34038288/GWX_renown_updated.pdf.html
(updated 01/25/2007)

or here (thanks to jimbuna)
http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renow.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html)
I have been looking for the GWX renown system in the old posts here but I didnt find any relevant info so I made it on my own. If someone else did this before or if the renown system is displayed somewhere in-game (they say you should be able to see it after pressing the F1 but it didnt work for me), then just ignore this post.

anyway, I highlighted red 3 or 4 cases where I was not sure about the type of ship. any help would be welcome. enjoy!:arrgh!:

[bigboywooly]

The 2 depot ships are just that - Sub depot ships - you will mainly find them in port
:hmm: maybe one or two movements

The NECT is a generic medium tanker

The MAS is a Italian MTB - Torpedo boat

The BPS is a Russian escort ship

[raduz]

thanks, it has been updated:up:

[vodkavera]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;6587000;;/fileinfo.html

I have been looking for the GWX renown system in the old posts here but I didnt find any relevant info so I made it on my own. If someone else did this before or if the renown system is displayed somewhere in-game (they say you should be able to see it after pressing the F1 but it didnt work for me), then just ignore this post.

anyway, I highlighted red 3 or 4 cases where I was not sure about the type of ship. any help would be welcome. enjoy!:arrgh!:

Great!!
I have a question though....
Does a passanger/cargo give you negative renown, -10,000??
Thats not my experiance.

/VV

[bigboywooly]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;6587000;;/fileinfo.html

I have been looking for the GWX renown system in the old posts here but I didnt find any relevant info so I made it on my own. If someone else did this before or if the renown system is displayed somewhere in-game (they say you should be able to see it after pressing the F1 but it didnt work for me), then just ignore this post.

anyway, I highlighted red 3 or 4 cases where I was not sure about the type of ship. any help would be welcome. enjoy!:arrgh!:

Great!!
I have a question though....
Does a passanger/cargo give you negative renown, -10,000??
Thats not my experiance.

/VV
Is that the Hospital ship ?
That will give you minus 10k

[vodkavera]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;6587000;;/fileinfo.html

I have been looking for the GWX renown system in the old posts here but I didnt find any relevant info so I made it on my own. If someone else did this before or if the renown system is displayed somewhere in-game (they say you should be able to see it after pressing the F1 but it didnt work for me), then just ignore this post.

anyway, I highlighted red 3 or 4 cases where I was not sure about the type of ship. any help would be welcome. enjoy!:arrgh!:

Great!!
I have a question though....
Does a passanger/cargo give you negative renown, -10,000??
Thats not my experiance.

/VV
Is that the Hospital ship ?
That will give you minus 10k

Nope, the chart says passanger/cargo -10,000
Hospital ship -1000.

I haven´t got any negative renown for sinking a Passanger/cargo what I know of.

/VV

[raduz]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;6587000;;/fileinfo.html

I have been looking for the GWX renown system in the old posts here but I didnt find any relevant info so I made it on my own. If someone else did this before or if the renown system is displayed somewhere in-game (they say you should be able to see it after pressing the F1 but it didnt work for me), then just ignore this post.

anyway, I highlighted red 3 or 4 cases where I was not sure about the type of ship. any help would be welcome. enjoy!:arrgh!:
Great!!
I have a question though....
Does a passanger/cargo give you negative renown, -10,000??
Thats not my experiance.

/VV
I know, it is weird. however, this value is attributed to a unit called "PTL". I dont know whats going on but you can check it in : SILENT HUNTER III/Data/Sea/NPTL/NPTL.cfg or NPTL.en

I noted it as a passenger/cargo because it is mentioned like that here: SILENT HUNTER III/Data/Sea/EnglishNames. it says : "PTL=Passenger/Cargo"

"
anyone knows what is this ship?

[bigboywooly]

Yes tis a lit passenger\cargo that only Neutral countries have
Not sure where the - came from but you shouldnt be sinking it anyway

[Von Hinten]

... but you shouldnt be sinking it anyway
Aw, come on ... not even just once maybe? :yep:

[Deep-Six]

The Iowa class BBs should be worth more than the Hood.

They were larger then the Hood and could kill more.:yep:

[EM2(SS)]

Thank you very much Raduz!:up: :up:

[Gezoes]

One more handy entry to my SH3 files!

Thanks for putting that up :cool:

[raduz]

I am glad gyus I could help. Enjoy:up:

[filefool]

Stunning!

I've been looking for something like this since GWX came out. :up:

[raduz]

Here is the answer to our problem with negative renown -1000 for mysterious ship:

Ok, here's a little question to the GWX boys, maybe BBW will be the first again to answer this.

How come that when reading the Renown Chart by Raduz, You get a positive renown for sinking Axis ships :hmm: ? I mean shouldn't it be that sinking the tirpitz as a U-boat commander gave you -1700 renown (or even more) instead of +1700, or is this a mistake made in the pdf document by the author ?
No its not the pdf at fault
To be honest thats the way they were
I dont recall anyone changing them
However since you mention it it should be changed...

Will be sent to the Kpt for inclusion in the next update

Also removed the minus from the NPTL

[Dallass_Drake]

Looking at that I should be getting more renown per patrol than I have been :down:

[bigboywooly]

Looking at that I should be getting more renown per patrol than I have been :down:



Thats the 100% figure
If you play on 30% realism you will get IIRC 30% of the renown

[raduz]

Looking at that I should be getting more renown per patrol than I have been :down:


Thats the 100% figure
If you play on 30% realism you will get IIRC 30% of the renown

thats correct.

[Dallass_Drake]

Gotcha :up:

[Abd_von_Mumit]

What is that 'IIRC' I hear about more and more often?

[melnibonian]

What is that 'IIRC' I hear about more and more often?
IIRC = If I remember correctly (I think)

[Jimbuna]

What is that 'IIRC' I hear about more and more often?
IIRC = If I remember correctly (I think)

:yep: :up:

[AG124]

I noticed people were worried about that Passenger/Cargo with -10,000 renown - it is actually the Lighted Transport by Anvart, which you shouldn't sink because it will always by neutral. It is not referred to as a 'Transport' in GWX, because if it was lighted and sailing under a neutral flag, it would be serving in a civilian capacity and would not have been converted to a troopship.:know:

While on the subject of Passenger/Cargoes, I noticed that the P/C vessel that everyone is most familiar with (NKCA) has not been included. Well, actually, it has been included but as a "Small Merchant" because its roster .cfgs have the wrong name. There is a second Small Merchant, but with the same renown as the stock one. This is what your section reads as:

Small Merchant =90
Small Merchant =70

This is what might be more appropriate:

Passenger/Cargo/NKCA =90
Small Merchant =70
Small Merchant/NKBL =70

Also, you forgot the Cunard Passenger Liner:

Passenger Liner/NLUS =870

And one more thing - several small warships have been listed with the merchants:

BPS Russian Escort Ship
Vorpostenboot
RAF Air Sea Rescue
Italian Torpedo Boat (MAS)


But still a great job though.:up:

[Captain Nemo]

Looking at that I should be getting more renown per patrol than I have been :down:



Thats the 100% figure
If you play on 30% realism you will get IIRC 30% of the renown

thats correct.

Not quite. If you play on 30% realism you will get 47.5 of renown for every 100 of renown sunk, if that makes sense. The reason its done this way is because if you played on 0% realism you would still earn 25 of renown for every 100 of renown sunk. If you calculated it by your method you would get nothing.

Nemo

[raduz]

thanks AG124 and bigboywooly, it has been updated:up:

[bigboywooly]

Need to check something out with regard to renown
The Axis ships may need to go back to the original value ( not minus ) if my tests prove positive

[raduz]

Need to check something out with regard to renown
The Axis ships may need to go back to the original value ( not minus ) if my tests prove positive

Roger:smug: Anyway the minuses in the chart are parenthesised.

[raduz]

thanks gizzmoe

[joea]

I can't get the link I get redirected to the main Filefront page.

[raduz]

I can't get the link I get redirected to the main Filefront page.
try to copy the http adress and paste in into your browser...

[BladeHeart]

I can't get the link I get redirected to the main Filefront page.
try to copy the http adress and paste in into your browser...

Same problem as Joea, and unfortunately your suggestion makes no difference. :cry:

[Austig]

I can't get the link I get redirected to the main Filefront page.
try to copy the http adress and paste in into your browser...

Same problem as Joea, and unfortunately your suggestion makes no difference. :cry:

hm mm its worked for me when i copied it into my brower

[Jimbuna]

Don't use it myself personally but have added to my filefront account in an attempt to help you all :up:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html

[BladeHeart]

Don't use it myself personally but have added to my filefront account in an attempt to help you all :up:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html

Downloaded without a hitch, thanks. :up:

[Jimbuna]

Don't use it myself personally but have added to my filefront account in an attempt to help you all :up:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html

Downloaded without a hitch, thanks. :up:

Your welcome kaleun :arrgh!: :up:

[raduz]

Don't use it myself personally but have added to my filefront account in an attempt to help you all :up:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html

Thanks:yep:

[GLassen]

What is that 'IIRC' I hear about more and more often?

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/IIRC

[Mr.Elendig]

Digging up an "old" topic, but:

Can anyone post a new link to the chart? All the ones in here are dead, and I can't find another one on the forum either.

[Jimbuna]

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;7154948;/fileinfo.html

[kevtherev]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6610309;;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;6587000;;/fileinfo.html)
(updated 01/25/2007)

or here (thanks to jimbuna)
http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renow.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html)
:arrgh!:

Hi raduz, I have tried your download links but am only accessed to filefront home page ??? can you have a look at the links as I would luv your chart. :hmm:

[Hakahura]

Okay so I'm a few days behind....

But I have to say I disagree with Deep-Six.

Yes the Iowa class BBs were larger than HMS Hood and could potentially cause more destruction, but in the spirit of the game and renown system, through Kriegsmarine eyes they just were'nt the same threat due to their location and main theaters of operation.
Plus the propaganda value of sinking the flagship of the Royal Navy at the time was huge. Look at old newsreels and paper extracts this was a huge catastophy for the Royal Navy. Only the sinking of Bismark reduced its impact.

[Hakahura]

Hmmm I'm a bit off topic there, this might be worth a new thread though.......

[Jimbuna]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6610309;;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;6587000;;/fileinfo.html)
(updated 01/25/2007)

or here (thanks to jimbuna)
http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renow.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html)
:arrgh!:

Hi raduz, I have tried your download links but am only accessed to filefront home page ??? can you have a look at the links as I would luv your chart. :hmm:


The jimbuna link will take you directly to the file :yep: :up:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;7154948;/fileinfo.html

[Hakahura]

Sorry for going off topic, heres new a thread, I'm curious about peoples opinions...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=115588

[kevtherev]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6610309;;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;6587000;;/fileinfo.html)
(updated 01/25/2007)

or here (thanks to jimbuna)
http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renow.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html)
:arrgh!:

Hi raduz, I have tried your download links but am only accessed to filefront home page ??? can you have a look at the links as I would luv your chart. :hmm:


The jimbuna link will take you directly to the file :yep: :up:

http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renownpdf/;7154948;/fileinfo.html

Has done, downloaded o/k, thanks a bundle for the link. :up: :up:

[Jimbuna]

Your welcome kaleun :up:

[raduz]

as I can see, you guys can handle it even without me:D

[SmokinTep]

Can't get into fileplanet at work. Anyone else have a site I can get it grom?

[Jimbuna]

Whats wrong with FileFront (bottom of post #45 or my sig) ? :hmm:

[tenakha]

just a quick question:
would it be possible to tweak the amount of renown earned for a ship depending of the year of the war? obviously it was more difficult to sink a ship in 1945 than in 1939

[raduz]

here is the rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/34038288/GWX_renown_updated.pdf.html

[Jimbuna]

just a quick question:
would it be possible to tweak the amount of renown earned for a ship depending of the year of the war? obviously it was more difficult to sink a ship in 1945 than in 1939

That is currently being worked on ;)

[tenakha]

just a quick question:
would it be possible to tweak the amount of renown earned for a ship depending of the year of the war? obviously it was more difficult to sink a ship in 1945 than in 1939

That is currently being worked on ;)

you guys are my heroes :up:

[Jimbuna]

I'll send you my banking details :lol: :up:

[robj250]

ahoy mates,

here are the charts with the renown points granted for each ship in the GWX. feel free to download here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/34038288/GWX_renown_updated.pdf.html
(updated 01/25/2007)

or here (thanks to jimbuna)
http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renow.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_renown_updatedrar/;6620539;;/fileinfo.html)
I have been looking for the GWX renown system in the old posts here but I didnt find any relevant info so I made it on my own. If someone else did this before or if the renown system is displayed somewhere in-game (they say you should be able to see it after pressing the F1 but it didnt work for me), then just ignore this post.

anyway, I highlighted red 3 or 4 cases where I was not sure about the type of ship. any help would be welcome. enjoy!:arrgh!:

Thanks radus! Oh, and to the others, I sunk a neutral ship in a convoy accidently and I received NO negative renown for it and in another convoy I sunk a hospital ship and no negative renown, but make your own choices guys, maybe mine were just "fluks"

[JScones]

Need to check something out with regard to renown
The Axis ships may need to go back to the original value ( not minus ) if my tests prove positive
Default ship renown should ALWAYS be positive. It should NEVER be negative.

The reason is quite simple. Look at Basic.cfg, specifically the lines:

NEUTRAL=-1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10

These are multipliers. If you sink a neutral ship, the renown is multipled by -1. Sink an enemy ship and it gets multiplied by 1 (ie no change) and sink a friendly ship and it gets multiplied by -10.

Here basic mathematics applies. Thus if you set the renown to a negative value, you'll end up with the opposite effect to what you were expecting.

You may remember this being highlighted by the Hospital ship quite a while ago. It's renown was set to -10000. Thus when sunk, SH3 would calculate the renown as -1 x -10000, which is +10000. So you would *gain* 10000 renown, no lose it.

In other words, setting a negative renown for Axis ships will result in positive renown being awarded if sunk.

[raduz]

yes thats correct

[bruschi sauro]

tks mate:smug:

[melnibonian]

just a quick question:
would it be possible to tweak the amount of renown earned for a ship depending of the year of the war? obviously it was more difficult to sink a ship in 1945 than in 1939
That's what you're looking for. http://files.filefront.com/Variable_Renown_for_GWX_13rar/;7641957;/fileinfo.html Make sure you read carefully the instructions as the file is used in SH3Cmdr and NOT in GWX. To use it you install it in SH3Cmrd and you run GWX via SH3Cmrd.