how long

[Scheisskopf]

on average, how much time was spent in between patrols? was there a specific time that the uboats had to be opperational after arriving, like a due date for the next patrol? or did they just go whenever the boat was prepared?

Thanks

Schkpf :-j

[bigboywooly]

Not sure of the exact length of time
I know in the Indian Ocean it was around 55 days inbetween as there were no real dockyard facilities available for the German subs and the Japs never went out of the way to help
In German ports it would depend on all sorts of things
Damage
Need for upgrades
Crew leave and replacement
Availabilty of parts
How many boats were in front of you when you docked

Dont think there was ever a set time
28 days seems a good figure as used ingame

[Ducimus]

There were alot of vairables involved that dicated how long they were in port.

If you feel like doing a little bit of research, heres a great site.
http://www.uboatwaffe.net/

You can look up when uboats went on patrol.
http://www.uboatwaffe.net/ops/boat.cgi

For example, heres U505
http://www.uboatwaffe.net/ops/boat.cgi?boat=505

Look closely at when they went on patrol, and the time between patrols. Having read a book about this boat, i know they were subjected to ALOT of sabatage which made the boat return to port alot.

[Letum]

i know they were subjected to ALOT of sabatage which made the boat return to port alot.


In the last years of the war several crew members where caught sabotaging their own boats because losses where so high.
Pouring sugar in to the fuel makes a good mess of the engines and requires a long time in the docks.

[JScones]

When the "randomised days spent in base" feature was added to SH3Cmdr, Beery did some research into this.

His results were then "massaged" into SH3Cmdr thus:

1939 between 5 and 30 days
1940 between 5 and 45 days
1941 between 10 and 50 days
1942 between 15 and 55 days
1943 between 20 and 60 days
1944 between 25 and 65 days
1945 between 25 and 65 days

Obviously these figures don't cater for different sub types or operational areas, hence why I say they were "massaged". But they pretty much outline the two extremes.

One thing is certain though, it was no less than 50 days in SE Asia.

[melnibonian]

If I remember correctly in the book Iron Coffins it is said that the period between patrols was between 3 and 4 weeks.

[andy_311]

Will the end of Jan update for GWX reflex that for the Far east? or would it have to be edited manually (don't use sh3 commander)

[JScones]

Will the end of Jan update for GWX reflex that for the Far east? or would it have to be edited manually (don't use sh3 commander)
No. SH3 applies the same value to all Flotillas. Thus setting the value to 55 days by default means that ALL Flotillas will get 55 days, which is not appropriate.

So without using SH3Cmdr you'll need to modify the value manually when you are undertaking Far East patrols.

[fredbass]

Just get Commander like most of us around here do. :ping: :yep: :lol:

[Scheisskopf]

There were alot of vairables involved that dicated how long they were in port.

If you feel like doing a little bit of research, heres a great site.
http://www.uboatwaffe.net/

You can look up when uboats went on patrol.
http://www.uboatwaffe.net/ops/boat.cgi

For example, heres U505
http://www.uboatwaffe.net/ops/boat.cgi?boat=505

Look closely at when they went on patrol, and the time between patrols. Having read a book about this boat, i know they were subjected to ALOT of sabatage which made the boat return to port alot.

awesome, thanks for the links

thanks for the replies guys, interesting stuff :up: i'll look into getting SH3 Commander

Schkpf:-j

[Ducimus]

i know they were subjected to ALOT of sabatage which made the boat return to port alot.


In the last years of the war several crew members where caught sabotaging their own boats because losses where so high.
Pouring sugar in to the fuel makes a good mess of the engines and requires a long time in the docks.

Sources ive read seem to dispute that. *shrug*

[Letum]

i know they were subjected to ALOT of sabatage which made the boat return to port alot.

In the last years of the war several crew members where caught sabotaging their own boats because losses where so high.
Pouring sugar in to the fuel makes a good mess of the engines and requires a long time in the docks.
Sources ive read seem to dispute that. *shrug*

The sabotage or the sugar?

My source is "The Battle for the Atlantic" Andrew Williams 2002

[mookiemookie]

Cremer (U-333) talks about the British sabotage propaganda effort (dropping leaflets and such). He says that "In the first years of the war it was highly improbably that German U-boat men were ready to sabotage their own boat. The British probably did not expect that they would, but counted rather on generating a certain mistrust, praticularly between the chief engineer and his mechanics. Whether the British ever succeeded, I cannot say."

So I guess you COULD be right in saying that it went on in the later years. I find it hard to believe, though. But what do I know. ;)