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Kapitan Edvard
01-18-07, 07:27 PM
Hey guys,

I just got Silent Hunter III this Christmas, but have only been able to start playing this morning. I started with a type VIIB in 1939, using the GWX(?) pack. For my first sortie of the game, I found a convoy south of Portsmouth and began my attack. I came out of it having sunk a total of 90 000 tonnes, including the battleship HMS Nelson, and 3 Pyro Ammunition Carriers (great explosions). The hardest part was deciding which crew members recieved the assorted 43 medals!

I have played Silent Hunter II, but I've never got anything like that. Is a result like this unusual, or has anyone else ever recieved sunk such a surprising amount? :-?

P.S: Whenever you recieve a mesage containing latitude and longitude coordinates, how does one find this location? I know SH II has a lat,long mous position, but SH II dosent. Could I possibly get some help on that?

_Seth_
01-18-07, 07:39 PM
Hi mate, and welcome to subsim!:up: Looks like you had a great patrol! I would say that its unusual, since GWX is way harder than stock & GW 1.1a.
The lat/long is just eye-candy, IIRC. It is just a part of the radio messages that you shouldnt pay attention to!:yep:

Kapitan Edvard
01-18-07, 07:51 PM
Thanks very much, Seth. It is plain to the eye that you know a lot about SHIII. I was wondering if you could answer just three more questions. 1. My computer handles the game pretty okay, despite the 64mb graphics card. However, the 1000x time compression things is really jittery and laggy. It happens sometimes and others not. Do you know how to fix that, or lessen it?

2. Is it possible to take screenshots of things without fraps? Does Print Screen go into a folder or something?

And 3. I would imagine you've been playing for a while. Whats your best sortie, and kill? I bet a few aircraft carriers have copped it. And whats your best tip.

Thanks again.

stabiz
01-18-07, 07:51 PM
Welcome to SubSim! (Man, I have typed that many times today, whats happening?)

Kapitan Edvard
01-18-07, 07:54 PM
Welcome to SubSim! (Man, I have typed that many times today, whats happening?)

People are being attracted to the best Uboat simulation out, thats what :up:

stabiz
01-18-07, 07:54 PM
Thanks very much, Seth. It is plain to the eye that you know a lot about SHIII. I was wondering if you could answer just three more questions. 1. My computer handles the game pretty okay, despite the 64mb graphics card. However, the 1000x time compression things is really jittery and laggy. It happens sometimes and others not. Do you know how to fix that, or lessen it?

2. Is it possible to take screenshots of things without fraps? Does Print Screen go into a folder or something?

And 3. I would imagine you've been playing for a while. Whats your best sortie, and kill? I bet a few aircraft carriers have copped it. And whats your best tip.

Thanks again.

I`ll have a go at the first one. The reason time compression makes the game laggy, is your hardware (to some extent). It is mostly having its way with your cpu and ram, since speeding things up makes the computer work with lots of little things at the increasing speed. The faster your cpu and ram is, the more you can crank up tc without too much of the lagging.

It is possible to take screenshots without fraps, but I`m not sure how, since I use fraps. Someone will come along shortly anyway. :up:

_Seth_
01-18-07, 08:18 PM
I agree with Stabiz on the hardware issue, mate! He knows what he's talking about! (Check out his Excellent movies, btw!!):yep:
The screenshots: I use Fraps or simply Ctrl + F11. The images are stored in my SHIII folder (dont know why with Ctrl + F11, but for Fraps i have directed them there.)

I dont remember what my best sortie was, because i have played SHIII so long that i cant even remember my first patrol. But i dont think it have been over 60000 tons.
Edit: best tip: Take your time, dont rush anything. Learn the DD's movements around the convoy, watch out for sudden course changes. Try to forsee where the convoy is heading, run silent & deep, and try to get to periscope depth after the first escort have passed you. If you get inside the convoy, you can do alot of picking before the escorts get a hold of you. But beware for those armed merchants..
Hope this helps a bit, mate! :rock:

johan_d
01-18-07, 09:05 PM
a few patrols more, and you will not sing anymore, thats for sure!

bookworm_020
01-18-07, 09:37 PM
That's a great patrol!! I'm sure you got a couple of medals for that one! After a few more you will find out how lucky you were, and you will be wish for more patrols like your first.

Blacklight
01-18-07, 10:07 PM
The lat/long is just eye-candy, IIRC. It is just a part of the radio messages that you shouldnt pay attention to!:yep:

Actually, If you pop open the map that comes with SH III in the DVD case, it has the longitude latitude lines on it. I've followed those radio messages to their coordinates when they were nearby and found exactly what they are describing on several occasions. I think there's more to them than just eye candy.

Congrats on that patrol !! Sounds like you had a stunning one ! I've never come close to that !!

Mooncatt
01-19-07, 05:12 AM
well done m8 on your patrol that was stunning. but i agree with the guys here even on vanilla 90k tonnage is hard to come by. on gwx from what ive heard that kind of patrol will not happen everyday and you will realise that after some more patrols :D

Jimbuna
01-19-07, 05:18 AM
Welcome aboard kaleun :arrgh!:

A very promising start indeed :up:

_Seth_
01-19-07, 05:20 AM
The lat/long is just eye-candy, IIRC. It is just a part of the radio messages that you shouldnt pay attention to!:yep:
Actually, If you pop open the map that comes with SH III in the DVD case, it has the longitude latitude lines on it. I've followed those radio messages to their coordinates when they were nearby and found exactly what they are describing on several occasions. I think there's more to them than just eye candy.

Congrats on that patrol !! Sounds like you had a stunning one ! I've never come close to that !!:o Cool! have to try that, mate!

melnibonian
01-19-07, 05:37 AM
Welcome to SubSim:up:

That was one hell of a patrol. Wondeful results. Well done:D :up:

To answer your question about where to look for potential kills check this thread http://www.communitymanuals.com/shiii/index.php?title=Hunting_Grounds and as always

Good Luck and Good Hunting:up:

Jimbuna
01-19-07, 07:37 AM
The lat/long is just eye-candy, IIRC. It is just a part of the radio messages that you shouldnt pay attention to!:yep:

Actually, If you pop open the map that comes with SH III in the DVD case, it has the longitude latitude lines on it. I've followed those radio messages to their coordinates when they were nearby and found exactly what they are describing on several occasions. I think there's more to them than just eye candy.

Congrats on that patrol !! Sounds like you had a stunning one ! I've never come close to that !!

Could you give one or two examples ? :hmm:

melnibonian
01-19-07, 07:40 AM
I just got Silent Hunter III this Christmas, but have only been able to start playing this morning. I started with a type VIIB in 1939, using the GWX(?) pack. For my first sortie of the game, I found a convoy south of Portsmouth and began my attack. I came out of it having sunk a total of 90 000 tonnes, including the battleship HMS Nelson, and 3 Pyro Ammunition Carriers (great explosions). The hardest part was deciding which crew members recieved the assorted 43 medals!

I have played Silent Hunter II, but I've never got anything like that. Is a result like this unusual, or has anyone else ever recieved sunk such a surprising amount? :-?


To put things into perspective my vert first patrol (stock SH3) with my IID yielded 5000 tons:oops: and on my GWX career my first patrol on VIIB yielded a bit less than 20000 tons.:p :D :D You did well:yep: :up:

AVGWarhawk
01-19-07, 09:04 AM
Hey guys,

I just got Silent Hunter III this Christmas, but have only been able to start playing this morning. I started with a type VIIB in 1939, using the GWX(?) pack. For my first sortie of the game, I found a convoy south of Portsmouth and began my attack. I came out of it having sunk a total of 90 000 tonnes, including the battleship HMS Nelson, and 3 Pyro Ammunition Carriers (great explosions). The hardest part was deciding which crew members recieved the assorted 43 medals!

I have played Silent Hunter II, but I've never got anything like that. Is a result like this unusual, or has anyone else ever recieved sunk such a surprising amount? :-?

P.S: Whenever you recieve a mesage containing latitude and longitude coordinates, how does one find this location? I know SH II has a lat,long mous position, but SH II dosent. Could I possibly get some help on that?


Great patrol. What realism are you playing? Very soon just surviving will be considered a good patrol;). Welcome aboard!:lurk:

Jimbuna
01-19-07, 09:15 AM
It will get harder mate as the Allies get more proficient and incorporate technological improvements to their ASW equipment :yep:

Enjoy the happy times while you can :up:

SINK EM ALL!! :arrgh!:

Tijn
01-19-07, 09:52 AM
I play GWX @ 100 % realism and DiD. I usually between 15.000 and 30.000 each patrol. Somtimes a little more, somtimes less. Since i play DiD i'm a bit more carefull.

So regardless of youre realism settings 90K is a hell of score.

My best score with Vanilla Sh3 was around 115K with a 7c and realism around 85% or so.

Grtz Tijn

Kingcobra24
01-19-07, 10:03 AM
Welcome aboard...enjoy the forum. A finer bunch of submariners you'll be hard-pressed to find anywhere else but here!!!:rock::up:
:lurk:

bigboywooly
01-19-07, 10:38 AM
Hi and welcome to Subsim ( should really put that in notepad and paste :rotfl: )

Any way you can use this site

http://www.ubootwaffe.net/quadrant.cgi

To convert the long\lat to grid squares if you want

Enjoy your stay Kpt

Kapitan Edvard
01-19-07, 04:04 PM
Thanks for being so welcoming everyone. However, the notion that things will get harder and I won't be singing couldn't be more true. Had a blackout during the load of my 4th sortie - all the save files are corrupted and so are any new ones. Back to the reinstallation for me. :damn:

Is the game historic? In regards to the idea that if a convoy passes Portsmouth on a certain date, will it be there if you start over? I loved being in that convoy, and would kill (torpedo in fact) to do it again.

Thanks again everyone, I never expected such a warm welcome :up:

Kapitan Edvard
01-19-07, 04:06 PM
Hi and welcome to Subsim ( should really put that in notepad and paste :rotfl: )

Any way you can use this site

http://www.ubootwaffe.net/quadrant.cgi

To convert the long\lat to grid squares if you want

Enjoy your stay Kpt

And I think that this might be very helpful tool, thank you very much indeed. Some say that those reports are for eyecandy, some not. I wonder if they do mean anything. Maybe that could be my contribution to these forums, by spending a whole sortie following radio message locations....

andy_311
01-19-07, 04:10 PM
Welcome from me too,I would just like to say any patrol you come back from is a good one.:up:

AVGWarhawk
01-19-07, 04:33 PM
Thanks for being so welcoming everyone. However, the notion that things will get harder and I won't be singing couldn't be more true. Had a blackout during the load of my 4th sortie - all the save files are corrupted and so are any new ones. Back to the reinstallation for me. :damn:

Is the game historic? In regards to the idea that if a convoy passes Portsmouth on a certain date, will it be there if you start over? I loved being in that convoy, and would kill (torpedo in fact) to do it again.

Thanks again everyone, I never expected such a warm welcome :up:

Yes, it is as historic as the GWX team could make it. You will often find ships spawning back at certain ports. Not to often as each patrol will really take on a life of its own and you will find yourself not repeating things....with exception of dying:smug:

Corruption.....rule of thumb. Do not save while warships are present. Do not save in port. Do not save submerged. It does not always mess things up but there is a greater chance it will corrupt your current career.

Biggles
01-19-07, 04:45 PM
90 000 tonnage?:o

You had a great patrol. Period.


.....or not....well my record for one patrol is 66532 tons, where I sunk 12 ships. By the sound of it you sunk 4.......I kneel for you, my master.....


http://accel3.mettre-put-idata.over-blog.com/0/37/44/13/starwars/w_4359_20050311-36_1_.jpg

pfffh, best pic I got...bloody waste of time....:shifty:

oh, and welcome to Subsim!:up:

CWorth
01-19-07, 04:59 PM
Welcome to the forum..

I look at it this way..any partrol that you get out of harbor,sink at least 1 ship and get back in at least somewhat one piece is a good patrol.Especially during the later years.

Tonnage tracking is overrated anyway as the game allows for far higher tonnage amounts sunk per patrol even with the mods than what was historically done by the real captains.

Blacklight
01-19-07, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacklight
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The lat/long is just eye-candy, IIRC. It is just a part of the radio messages that you shouldnt pay attention to!:yep:

Actually, If you pop open the map that comes with SH III in the DVD case, it has the longitude latitude lines on it. I've followed those radio messages to their coordinates when they were nearby and found exactly what they are describing on several occasions. I think there's more to them than just eye candy.

Congrats on that patrol !! Sounds like you had a stunning one ! I've never come close to that !!


Could you give one or two examples ? :hmm:

Okay..... I got a message stating that *Insert ship name here because I don't remember the name* was seen at such and such coordinates... and it gave a longitude and latitude.. I happend to be near there and headed in that direction. When I got there.. there was nothing so I headed in the ships reported direction and lo and behold.. there it was. I sunk it.. it showed up as the ship from the report.

There have been other times when task forces were reported or single ships were reported in this manner that seemed to help me zero in on targets as well.

I havn't had this happen recently cuz I'm been on a 1x mission and I'm nowhere near the Atlantic yet :arrgh!:

I'll start a new career and go out again when I get time and see if I get any reports near me so I can duplicate the results.

Prior to these encounters, I had just assumed that the map and the messages were eye candy.. but now I'm not so sure.