Widescreen LCD or normal LCD

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ok ive decided to get a lcd monitor im tired of crt and its radiation :P ,

has anyone tried playing sh3 on a widescreen 5ms 19nch lcd?? i heard from a friend that the game is stretched and it looks really weird is their a fix for that?

shud i go widescreen or normal cuz this widescreen 5ms 200$ without tax CAD

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2513662&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

[nightdagger]

I personally hate TigerDirect but that monitor looks good, albeit from a brand I've never heard of.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

does anyone here have a widescreen LCD monitor the brand is by hanns -g it was bought out by hanns g and now hanns g makes I-INC monitors , does the picture stretch?

[AVGWarhawk]

I have seen this stretching crap. The bag arse TV's that are longer than tall do the same thing. It is stupid. The prices you pay for this elongated TV and the picture looks elongated. Makes no sense to me. Go for the square monitor and be happy in my view!

[elite_hunter_sh3]

so the picture stretches. is there a fix for it? can someone modify the dll for screen res so its the widescreen res??

[Swany6mm]

Yes, I run a widescreen on my laptop. Dell's 17 Ultra Wide. It's outstanding! I run at 1920x1200, both desktop and in game. The fix is using the direct display edit. You can find the link on the wiki community manual (here's the direct link)

http://www.communitymanuals.com/shiii/index.php?title=Display_Resolution

Make sure you follow the instructions ALL the way through. The first time I was in a hurry and just did the first part, not bothering to read the whole thing (you need to do more if you are running XP) and of course it didn't work until I went back and re-read.

The start up screens and menus are still in their native resolution, but as soon as the game loads it will load in what ever resolution you define in the CFG file.

[Swany6mm]

I have seen this stretching crap. The bag arse TV's that are longer than tall do the same thing. It is stupid. The prices you pay for this elongated TV and the picture looks elongated. Makes no sense to me. Go for the square monitor and be happy in my view!

There is a lot more to it than just that. I happen to have a widescreen tv and also hate the stretched look. A good WS tv will allow you to set the modes. If my TV see's a widescreen mode, it will switch to that mode. How ever, if it see's a regular tv signal, it will square itself. Has the same effect as watching WS on regular with the black bars, except I end up with black bars on the sides instead of top and bottom ;) Looks like a regular tv just with a MUCH better picture. Works quite well actually. Now, some TV's wont auto switch, but they'll at least have a manual switch.

Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread, just hate seeing something bashed when it's just not being understood. Not jumping out at you AVGWarhawk, only trying to clarify :)

Ciao

[fredbass]

I have a widescreen LCD and my pic looks fine to me. I've talked about this b4. I really think it depends on the monitor and what kind of adjustments you can make with it, because I don't notice any stretching after I've changed the monitors scale settings.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

lucky me i found a even better monitor for a better price
http://www.benq.ca/products/LCD/?product=594

[andy_311]

I have actually tried to play it on a 42 in plasma tv but it just pixals are playing up so I think my Nvida 660,256MB card is not good enough

[nightdagger]

6600's suck but they should play it alright on a 42 inch tv, even at 1080p HD for SH3.

[MONOLITH]

I play SH3 on a 21" widescreen, with the high res fix mod set at 1680x1050.

There's no stretch. Everything looks beautiful.

And after gaming in big widescreen, I'll never go back to a square monitor.

[azn_132]

I play SH3 on a 21" widescreen, with the high res fix mod set at 1680x1050.

There's no stretch. Everything looks beautiful.

And after gaming in big widescreen, I'll never go back to a square monitor.
Cant wait for my widescreen monitor.

[MobyGrape]

Get a widescreen there awesome;;SH4 will support Widescreen
links
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

http://forum.tigerdave.com/viewforum.php?f=1

Check this nice setups..wear a bib..you'll be drooling over some of these Theres 256 pages on this thread work your way backwards for newest
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=862341

I have a 32 inch LCD tv and getting a 37 soon..
I'd never get a 4x3 again..if buying a new monitor at this time

[TarJak]

I play SH3 on a 21" widescreen, with the high res fix mod set at 1680x1050.

There's no stretch. Everything looks beautiful.

And after gaming in big widescreen, I'll never go back to a square monitor.

do you get a wider field of view as part of the deal? At the moment if I took a screenie of my bridge facing bearing 0 deg on a VIIC, i can see about half of the Watch Officer on my left and just the arm of the lookout on my right.

What do you get to see? In other words is it really worth it or not?

[Sinking Fast]

ok ive decided to get a lcd monitor im tired of crt and its radiation :P ,

Do the math, wide screen = fewer pixels for the money. I have two Sony CRTs sitting next to two NEC non widescreen LCDs. Don't buy cheap monitors if you intend to sit in front of them much. Don't forget the video card either. If you planing to use the vga output, now may not be the time to upgrade the monitor. I game on the CRTs and program on the LCDs. That may have more do to with the computers than the monitors but if you use two you'll never go back:)

If Microsoft Flight Sim can run on two (or more) monitors why not SH? Sub Command is supposed to run on two but I haven't tried it yet.

Sinking Fast

[MONOLITH]

[quote=MONOLITH]

do you get a wider field of view as part of the deal?

No, the displayed image 'contents' is the same, I think (unlike widescreen movie versions).

But there's something about it that just looks and feels so much better.

Look at my sig, with it's rectangular shape. Now try to picture it with the sides squished into a square. it just wouldn't be as nice.

[TarJak]

[quote=MONOLITH]

do you get a wider field of view as part of the deal?
No, the displayed image 'contents' is the same, I think (unlike widescreen movie versions).

But there's something about it that just looks and feels so much better.

Look at my sig, with it's rectangular shape. Now try to picture it with the sides squished into a square. it just wouldn't be as nice.

Any chance of posting a "widescreen" screenie?

[VIICDriver]

Looking for a new monitor here as well and plan on puchasing one in February. In doing some research on this am finding that the older style CRT's are still better for the average gamer than the LCD's but of course the big PRO for an LCD is its lack of desk space, lack of power req. and apparently they only give off like 10% of the heat a CRT does. I like to run things in HIGH resoloution and am finding that an LCD that suits my tastes there is VERY expensive as opposed to a CRT which hits those rates with ease for less than half of the cost.

But the CRT is huge, one I'm looking at weighs 47 lbs!! but can run like 2100x1400 whereas a comparably priced LCD can only run 1280x1024 and its recommended to run it lower than that.

Just my 2 cents, of course the wife is screaming for me to get an LCD!

Chuck

[Swany6mm]

[quote=MONOLITH]

do you get a wider field of view as part of the deal?

No, the displayed image 'contents' is the same, I think (unlike widescreen movie versions).

But there's something about it that just looks and feels so much better.

Look at my sig, with it's rectangular shape. Now try to picture it with the sides squished into a square. it just wouldn't be as nice.

Yes, you get a wider field of view. Just not a lot. Widescreens tend to be better just because most widescreens have a better looking picture (so long as you spend a little to get a good monitor)

[jimmie]

Samsung 19inch widescreen here.

First time I saw the stretched images, I was so mad. I disparately sought fix but "digital flat panel setting" in recent nForce driver with 6800GT doesn't work. I so hated the oval periscope so I almost gave up. But after making the game in high-res mode (what an enormous difference from 1024!) and looking at a few times clamed my allegy on it and now it seems I'm adapted... (still, I couldn't accept 3 oval main interface dials so vanished them by incorporating sim-feeling mod)

Aside from that needless to say it is good for movies and new game titles including SH4 will support widescreen so generally, it's a way to go. But more real estate does meen more graphic power demand :oops:

This monitor was about $220 so it's a budget monitor (SyncMaster 941bw). If someone's thinking about this monitor, I think the monitor is too bright (it's like over exposed) and I tried to fix this by tweaking various hardware controls & software (gf cards,' Windows') but it's not satisfactory. The back-light is very strong so "black" is NOT black (especially if you compare to a CRT monitor, all LCD's black is not dark but this monitor's black is really "bright" black) Howerver, I can't complain for the price - it's amazing we can get such a great (well, have issues tho) monitor for near $200.

P.S. Inside of sub becomes more spacious as well and so it doesn't smell too sweaty :rotfl:

[Tonnage_Ace]

I hope I haven't come too late in this discussion...DON'T BUY THAT MONITOR! First of all, I don't know the name and second of all the price is suspicious. When your in a flee market and/or some place in Asia and you happen to find some nice rip-off clothes(and they can be of very good quality if you look hard enough and have experience) go ahead and buy 'em but don't chintz on electronics. 200 bucks for a 19 inch widescreen monitor is great and it will look great for the first six months but after that, if the picture doesn't start degrading I'll be surprised. When it comes to electronics, you really do get what you pay for. I'd suggest hopping on over to Ebay and finding a good brand name(NEC, Dell, Apple) and buying from a Power Seller.

[MobyGrape]

heres a pre gwx running at 1360 x 768..
http://www.screenshotart.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=48711

i edited it to grey scale and resized it down alittle

[JohnnyBlaze]

20inch LCD Samsung widescreen here and just loving it.
Playing the game in window mode

[JohnnyBlaze]

heres a pre gwx running at 1360 x 768..
http://www.screenshotart.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=48711

i edited it to grey scale and resized it down alittle
Man that pic looks awesome :rock:

[Sea Wolf]

I had 1440x900 (17'') and it looked great, it looks fine on normal aswell though.

[Jimbuna]

heres a pre gwx running at 1360 x 768..
http://www.screenshotart.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=48711

i edited it to grey scale and resized it down alittle
WOW :o that looks nice Moby :up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

well i changed my mind on the widescreen cuz i found a normal 19inch lcd BenQ is brand its 2ms and its around 250 CAD with tax

[elite_hunter_sh3]

heres the monitor i found


http://www.verkkokauppa.com/productimages/orig/38061_01.jpg


heres the store
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=010080&cid=MT.983

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ok i need the dll fix for 1440 x 990 for widescreen monitors i got a LG flatron widescreen 5ms response 2000:1 contrast i need the dll fix for that res thanx :up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

bump cuz i badly need the dll fix i havent played sh3 in a little over 2 days :cry::cry::dead::dead::dead: and i want to play BADLY but my monitor is widescreen anyone know a dll fix ?

[Boris]

Here it is with the instructions:

http://www.communitymanuals.com/shiii/index.php?title=Display_Resolution

I have a wide screen too. It doesn't fix the aspect, all this fix does is let you run the game at a higher resolution. Even if that happens to be your monitors native widescreen res, everything will still look stretched.

Personally, I just crank up the AA and AF in my graphics card settings. Gets rid of any pixelation and looks better than hi-res without, plus better performance.

[jaxa]

lucky me i found a even better monitor for a better price
http://www.benq.ca/products/LCD/?product=594

I use this BenQ. Very fast LCD, one of the fastest you can buy and not expensive. Designed especially for games. Remember that is TN, so angles of view aren't wide.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

:damn::damn::damn::damn::damn: i followed everything step by step and it will not work it keeps CTD and i dont know wut to do plz someone help im craving for sh3 and i seriously need to play :oops::oops::oops::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[NightCrawler]

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/images/1/10/Guildwarssurround.jpg
If SHIV is supported and have a quard SLI GPX card :P

[jaxa]

Looks fine