View Full Version : Saddam to be hanged by Sunday
Onkel Neal
12-28-06, 09:52 PM
Ok, so who is Sunday and how did she get this honor?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16384738/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16384738/)
d@rk51d3
12-28-06, 10:06 PM
If it was "Wednesday", it could have been an Addams Family Special.
Ok, so who is Sunday and how did she get this honor?
Lucky girl.
The Avon Lady
12-29-06, 12:57 AM
If it was "Wednesday", it could have been an Addams Family Special.
Uncle Fester: "Hanging's too good for him. I'll shoot him in the back!"
flyingdane
12-29-06, 01:54 AM
Good Bye.."SO-DAM-INSANE":up:
Camaero
12-29-06, 02:41 AM
:/\\chop
A neat plan to stop all the western power's embarrassing dirty laundry being washed in public in the international criminal court, brought to a tidy conclusion. :hmm:
There is some confusion here I have heard on the news he will not be hanged as the Iraq Prime Minister will not sign any death warrants, now we here he could be hagged tomorrow. What is going on over there?
bradclark1
12-29-06, 08:45 AM
Ok, so who is Sunday and how did she get this honor?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16384738/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16384738/)
How do you know Sunday's female? Haven't you heard of a Man Called Sue. How do you do?
The Noob
12-29-06, 01:12 PM
Thats a shame, now we can't make songs and pictures mocking him anymore... :lol:
Bye Bye Saddam Insane.
"Saddam Hussein will be hanged before dawn on Saturday in Iraq, before 6 a.m."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/index.html
Unconfirmed reports are that the execution has taken place. 03:16 gmt
Sea Demon
12-29-06, 10:17 PM
Saddam is dead. :up:
This is not good, this is not good at all.
The bastard deserved to die, but civilians that will die in the up coming days because of Saddam´s execution dont deserve it.
And the western governments whom supported his brutal regime with the weapons, money, torture equipment and inteligence. Will they hang too, I doubt it. But they too surely do dererve it.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2523732,00.html
Camaero
12-29-06, 11:23 PM
And the western governments whom supported his brutal regime with the weapons, money, torture equipment and inteligence. Will they hang too, I doubt it. But they too surely do dererve it.
I dislike you.
Sea Demon
12-29-06, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't worry about it. Justice has been served. A very evil man has been disposed of. It is very good news indeed. The moral equivalency displayed by some is merely sour grapes. The desire to always turn good news to bad is also a case of the same. :)
Well, there he goes. I'm not sorry to see him go, but personally I don't think his death will achieve much, altho perhaps it will make some of his victims happy.
His few followers will be just as happy to follow a dead leader as an imprisoned one.
It certainly won't end anything more than the old mans life.
I wonder how long it will be before things do "end" in Iraq. No doubt the problems faced by the people will last long after foreign soldiers and newspaper reporters have left.
Its a poor state of affairs and my sympathies go to everyone suffering the unrest there.
At least Bush is being realistic when he says that this won't end the violence in Iraq, but I guess it was a necessary step in Iraqs post-Saddam days. How the Sunni community in Iraq and worldwide are going to react to this may shape the way Iraq proceeds forward now.
Cpt. Stewker
12-30-06, 01:53 AM
Saddam Hussein is D-E-A-D!!
Not a moment too soon either. They say that in the moments leading up to the hanging, there was fear in his eyes... You wanna know why?
Because that pitiful excuse for a man knew exactly where he was going. For him there will be no virgins, no paradise, no happiness...
He's going straight to hell for the thousands of innocents he has ordered to death during his reign... and he knew it at that moment.
That's a quote from my blog. Decided to just copy and paste it here as well.
I think the fact so soon after passing sentence the order was carried out is rather eye opening....that type of "Swift" justice here in the U.S. would have a good effect me thinks....WTG Iraqi Courts :up:
The faster the better, eh. Judge Dredd, anyone? :hmm:
On a brighter note, he's now as dead as his equal, Milosevic, and not a conspiracy theory in sight!
dean_acheson
12-30-06, 03:46 AM
And the western governments whom supported his brutal regime with the weapons, money, torture equipment and inteligence. Will they hang too, I doubt it. But they too surely do dererve it.
I dislike you.
ditto.....
did you go to some class taught by Howard Zinn?
dean_acheson
12-30-06, 03:56 AM
I am hoping that you tell us what western governments that you speak of.
Every country.
And lay out some monatary amounts.
Including what kind of aid, to the Iraqi regime, sind Saddam took power.
Then we will discuss what should happen to Mr. Chirac.
Sea Demon
12-30-06, 04:29 AM
I am hoping that you tell us what western governments that you speak of.
Every country.
And lay out some monatary amounts.
Including what kind of aid, to the Iraqi regime, sind Saddam took power.
Then we will discuss what should happen to Mr. Chirac.
How bout' Kofi and crew over at the corrupt and utterly useless U.N. ????
And the western governments whom supported his brutal regime with the weapons, money, torture equipment and inteligence. Will they hang too, I doubt it. But they too surely do dererve it.
I dislike you.
That is of course your perogative. Wheras it may be seen to be rather old fashioned in this day and age, I prefere to hold to the values and moral standards whith which I was brought up. Silence does, still, equal complicity.
The mad dog is dead.
Robert Mugarby should all so hang for his crimes, it's about time he was bought to book.
Sea Wolf
12-30-06, 06:09 AM
It may be wrong to execute someone, but he couldn't live. He would continue to cause trouble and continue to be a rallying point for insurgents.
Kapitan_Phillips
12-30-06, 06:11 AM
Saddam is dead. :up:
How long before its on YouTube? :rotfl:
Sea Wolf
12-30-06, 06:20 AM
Part of it's on the BBC
Wim Libaers
12-30-06, 06:51 AM
It may be wrong to execute someone, but he couldn't live. He would continue to cause trouble and continue to be a rallying point for insurgents.
Unfortunately, some people seem to have no problem rallying behind dead people. Especially dead people who have been killed by the enemy, also known as martyrs.
It may be wrong to execute someone, but he couldn't live. He would continue to cause trouble and continue to be a rallying point for insurgents.
Unfortunately, some people seem to have no problem rallying behind dead people. Especially dead people who have been killed by the enemy, also known as martyrs.
That is the problem, you're into Catch-22 territory when dealing with leaders of groups that are highly fanatical, you can cut off the head, but the body will still continue running around and blowing things up....but if you refrain from cutting off the head, it will continue to provide inspiration and motivation for the rest of the body.
Such is the same situation facing the US should they ever catch Bin...which is probably why they're not so keen on catching him now as they were shortly after 9/11 because when you have got him...then what? It doesn't change anything if you execute him because then he gets promoted to martyr status and then another man will step up to replace him....sure, it'll cause a bit of disruption with Al'Qaeda but eventually they'll weather it, pull through and then continue where they left off.
I really don't know what the answer to that is...and I don't think anyone in the West does yet, either.
After the US and UN(dont expect much from the UN except condoms) rebuild his country and bring it in to the 21st century, Saddam will be put back into power.
After all his type of leadership is all that can last in such religous run crountries.
Worship or die. Kill to get to god.:damn:
Let us hope I'am horribly wrong here.
:shifty:
KEELHAUL HIM! :arrgh!:
It may be wrong to execute someone, but he couldn't live. He would continue to cause trouble and continue to be a rallying point for insurgents.
Unfortunately, some people seem to have no problem rallying behind dead people. Especially dead people who have been killed by the enemy, also known as martyrs.
That is the problem, you're into Catch-22 territory when dealing with leaders of groups that are highly fanatical, you can cut off the head, but the body will still continue running around and blowing things up....but if you refrain from cutting off the head, it will continue to provide inspiration and motivation for the rest of the body.
Such is the same situation facing the US should they ever catch Bin...which is probably why they're not so keen on catching him now as they were shortly after 9/11 because when you have got him...then what? It doesn't change anything if you execute him because then he gets promoted to martyr status and then another man will step up to replace him....sure, it'll cause a bit of disruption with Al'Qaeda but eventually they'll weather it, pull through and then continue where they left off.
I really don't know what the answer to that is...and I don't think anyone in the West does yet, either.
I know the answer... We all know the answer...
It's the very thing everyone tries to avoid.
It's the inthe degree that religious groups will go to.
It sucks when innocent people die for a mad idea ... but hey ... WAR is comming.
:shifty:
KEELHAUL HIM! :arrgh!:
I dont believe that will do any good either.
but if it makes you feel better.
Erm....did I miss something here? :hmm:
See where you're coming from with the brutal dictatorship being the main thing that can keep those kinds of countries from falling into anarchy....BUT, you ask the majority of the Shia's in Iraq and they'll say they are glad Sadman Insane is gone, though are unsure about what kind of climate of fear has replaced him.
There's been many years of repressed and oppressed religious tension in Iraq, and now it's all boiling out now that both sides are on fairly equal footing, and western forces are stuck in the middle of it all, trying to keep the peace with not much material support from home, and not a great deal of help from Iraqi forces, as they're facing their own opposition from their own people.
It's a pretty dismal situation...a country which has been run for decades under a repressive regime suddenly finding freedom...it's going to be lengthy and messy...and I'm not sure this is something the Western forces realised when they launched the second Gulf War.
If you're coming from where I think you are, in that you have to be harsh in Iraq...then...sadly...I agree. It goes against every grain in my body to agree with you...but...considering Iraq then, and Iraq now...I don't know which is better...but then...if you were to talk to a Shia in Baghdad, I'm willing to bet he'd answer Iraq now....but then he'd probably go down to the market to buy some food and get blown up by a car bomb. :hmm:
Erm....did I miss something here? :hmm:
See where you're coming from with the brutal dictatorship being the main thing that can keep those kinds of countries from falling into anarchy....BUT, you ask the majority of the Shia's in Iraq and they'll say they are glad Sadman Insane is gone, though are unsure about what kind of climate of fear has replaced him.
There's been many years of repressed and oppressed religious tension in Iraq, and now it's all boiling out now that both sides are on fairly equal footing, and western forces are stuck in the middle of it all, trying to keep the peace with not much material support from home, and not a great deal of help from Iraqi forces, as they're facing their own opposition from their own people.
It's a pretty dismal situation...a country which has been run for decades under a repressive regime suddenly finding freedom...it's going to be lengthy and messy...and I'm not sure this is something the Western forces realised when they launched the second Gulf War.
all my saracasm aside
You, Oberon, have it!
I wish I could buy you a pint and dinner.
These people are fighting for control of something being forced upon them...FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
Had it been earned by the heart felt need of freedom and blood letting horrors of war where they would sacrifice all for just the taste of it...
But seeing how it has been givien to them on a "Blue Plate Special" I do not believe they will hold to a Democracy.
I could go on about how thier religious overtones will not allow for a democracy but thats another story.
Takeda Shingen
12-30-06, 10:41 AM
Threads merged, but very messily. It looks like I need practice at using this tool
Subwolf
12-30-06, 10:49 AM
I think this was a mistake, I'm worried that the war in Iraq now will turn to pure hell, I feel sorry for the American troops there.
Mods: Edit the post and remove the link if the pic is too much for this forum, but it's already used by many newspapers. On the other hand I think that some people have been waiting a long time to see this picture. This is what our troops died for, but was it worth it...
Edit: I have also edited the text, we must think about possible minors in here :roll:
Takeda Shingen
12-30-06, 10:54 AM
Mods: Edit the post and remove the link if the pic is too much for this forum....
No problem. If people want to see the pictures, let them Google them. We won't be presenting them here.
Come on, kids, be sensible and reasonable with this. Don't make me babysit GT all day long. It makes me cranky, and you won't like me if I get cranky.
TteFAboB
12-30-06, 11:01 AM
I had an opinion, that is, worthless 2c's, against his hanging because of fear for increase in terror. So the time has come to see if this opinion was based on fact, a good probability or pure fantasy. I suspect I was wrong, so I'm looking forward to the next few months.
Subwolf
12-30-06, 11:06 AM
Mods: Edit the post and remove the link if the pic is too much for this forum....
No problem. If people want to see the pictures, let them Google them. We won't be presenting them here.
Come on, kids, be sensible and reasonable with this. Don't make me babysit GT all day long. It makes me cranky, and you won't like me if I get cranky.
As a matter of fact, I don't think we are kids here, I think we are grown up people who can handle a picture like that, just as the millions who reads the newspapers. But it's your decision, that's why I mentioned it.
Takeda Shingen
12-30-06, 11:11 AM
Mods: Edit the post and remove the link if the pic is too much for this forum....
No problem. If people want to see the pictures, let them Google them. We won't be presenting them here.
Come on, kids, be sensible and reasonable with this. Don't make me babysit GT all day long. It makes me cranky, and you won't like me if I get cranky.
As a matter of fact, I don't think we are kids here, I think we are grown up people who can handle a picture like that, just as the millions who reads the newspapers. But it's your decision, that's why I mentioned it.
Actually, we have minors who are, in fact, members of this forum. Furthermore, I am applying the rules stated in SubSim's own fair use policy. The image clearly crosses a line of taste, and was removed immediately.
I suggest that you move forward with your topical exchange, as this particular discussion of editorial policy is over.
bradclark1
12-30-06, 11:15 AM
Edited for content
Mods: Edit the post and remove the link if the pic is too much for this forum....
No problem. If people want to see the pictures, let them Google them. We won't be presenting them here.
Come on, kids, be sensible and reasonable with this. Don't make me babysit GT all day long. It makes me cranky, and you won't like me if I get cranky.
As a matter of fact, I don't think we are kids here, I think we are grown up people who can handle a picture like that, just as the millions who reads the newspapers. But it's your decision, that's why I mentioned it.
Actually, we have minors who are, in fact, members of this forum. Furthermore, I am applying the rules stated in SubSim's own fair use policy. The image clearly crosses a line of taste, and was removed immediately.
I suggest that you move forward with your topical exchange, as this particular discussion of editorial policy is over.
yes ... images with good taste should stay
however ... images that taste good should be brought to at least 140 degrees F. before consumption, thus killing all things which may hurt you.:huh:
I'm begging to think Iraq will be dived up as it's one of the options open to us, the way things are at the moment where is no end to the daily violences and killings out there.
bradclark1
12-30-06, 12:30 PM
Edited for content
I wasn't attacking you. I made an observation. You read it. Thats all that matters.
waste gate
12-30-06, 12:38 PM
I'm begging to think Iraq will be dived up as it's one of the options open to us, the way things are at the moment where is no end to the daily violences and killings out there.
"Balkanization is a geopolitical term originally used to describe the process of fragmentation or division of a region into smaller regions that are often hostile or non-cooperative with each other".
This has been tried in the past. Failure.
The solution IMO is for iraqis to stand up and realize it's their country and their future. It will be hard for them to give up their tribal and religious differences not to mention their blood lust for vengance, but it is the only way.
It wouldn't hurt if the borders with Iran and Syria could be closed. Very difficult, the US cannot effectively close its own southern border.
The Avon Lady
12-30-06, 01:05 PM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2703/0rh1.gif
Onkel Neal
12-30-06, 01:12 PM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2703/0rh1.gif
:rotfl: That's pretty good :)
bradclark1
12-30-06, 01:54 PM
"Balkanization is a geopolitical term originally used to describe the process of fragmentation or division of a region into smaller regions that are often hostile or non-cooperative with each other".
This has been tried in the past. Failure.
The solution IMO is for iraqis to stand up and realize it's their country and their future. It will be hard for them to give up their tribal and religious differences not to mention their blood lust for vengance, but it is the only way.
Iraq is going to stay uncontrolable for the next ten to fifteen years and that is only if the U.S. gets out of the way and Iraq goes through the natural middle eastern selection process which is "kill whoever is against you" and the last one standing wins.
As screwed up as things are now, balkinization would make things a hell of a lot worse (if thats possible).
waste gate
12-30-06, 02:05 PM
"Balkanization is a geopolitical term originally used to describe the process of fragmentation or division of a region into smaller regions that are often hostile or non-cooperative with each other".
This has been tried in the past. Failure.
The solution IMO is for iraqis to stand up and realize it's their country and their future. It will be hard for them to give up their tribal and religious differences not to mention their blood lust for vengance, but it is the only way.
Iraq is going to stay uncontrolable for the next ten to fifteen years and that is only if the U.S. gets out of the way and Iraq goes through the natural middle eastern selection process which is "kill whoever is against you" and the last one standing wins.
As screwed up as things are now, balkinization would make things a hell of a lot worse (if thats possible).
Are we agreeing on this??
bradclark1
12-30-06, 03:15 PM
Are we agreeing on this??
:lol: Kind of but not entirely.
I just got the impression you meant they needed to put their prejudices aside and become an upstanding democracy. To me thats impossible.
I'm sayings the U.S. needs to step out of the way so that the Iraqi goverment can get savage and not worry about U.S./world opinion. There will never be an western style democracy in the middle east. All you can hope for is they won't turn jehadist(?) and want to stay friendly with the west, which I really don't see that happening either just for self survivability reasons.
waste gate
12-30-06, 03:24 PM
Are we agreeing on this??
:lol: Kind of but not entirely.
I just got the impression you meant they needed to put their prejudices aside and become an upstanding democracy. To me thats impossible.
I'm sayings the U.S. needs to step out of the way so that the Iraqi goverment can get savage and not worry about U.S./world opinion. There will never be an western style democracy in the middle east. All you can hope for is they won't turn jehadist(?) and want to stay friendly with the west, which I really don't see that happening either just for self survivability reasons.
OK, but what do you have against democracy? Just b/c it hasn't been tried in the ME doesn't mean it can't happen, albiet not without some pain. But all the first democracies were painfull. Peoples have to throw off the past, failed order, in order to move into a realm of self governance, liberty and self determination.
Abraham
12-30-06, 03:33 PM
The problem with letting the Iraqi's fight it out between themselves is that many Iraqi' groups have close ties with neighbouring countries, which might be tempted or forced to intervene. Major Middle East countries like Egypth and Saudi Arabia are trying to keep the situation under control.
Furthermore an uncontrolled 'burn-out' in Iraq might result in a bonfire for the whole world, given the Middle East oil that the West and recently also the East depend upon for its economic survival.
I fear that a controlled 'burn out' is the lesser of all evils for Iraq...
:-?
bradclark1
12-30-06, 04:29 PM
OK, but what do you have against democracy? Just b/c it hasn't been tried in the ME doesn't mean it can't happen, albiet not without some pain. But all the first democracies were painfull. Peoples have to throw off the past, failed order, in order to move into a realm of self governance, liberty and self determination.
I don't have anything against democracy. I just don't think the make-up of the middle east allows for it. As long as there are 16th century minded religious fanatics willing to kill anyone who doesn't think like them there can never be a democracy. The only survivable style of goverment for the middle east is authoritarian or dictatoral. Anything else and you have an Iraq of today.
Lebanon is a democracy or should I say a confessionalism style of goverment. Look where that is at. The terrorist army is stronger and better equipped then the goverments army. There is a state within a state. The place is heading for another open civil war as we speak. The real pisser is that Israel has done more to ferment it with their joke assualt or whatever it was supposed to be because they totally underestimated the enemy (which seems to be a common occurance in today's world).
I could go on but I have to read the "Farm" book to my two year old granddaughter:sunny:
The Munster
12-30-06, 05:03 PM
OK, but what do you have against democracy? Just b/c it hasn't been tried in the ME doesn't mean it can't happen, albiet not without some pain. But all the first democracies were painfull. Peoples have to throw off the past, failed order, in order to move into a realm of self governance, liberty and self determination.
I don't have anything against democracy. I just don't think the make-up of the middle east allows for it. As long as there are 16th century minded religious fanatics willing to kill anyone who doesn't think like them there can never be a democracy. The only survivable style of goverment for the middle east is authoritarian or dictatoral. Anything else and you have an Iraq of today.
Lebanon is a democracy or should I say a confessionalism style of goverment. Look where that is at. The terrorist army is stronger and better equipped then the goverments army. There is a state within a state. The place is heading for another open civil war as we speak. The real pisser is that Israel has done more to ferment it with their joke assualt or whatever it was supposed to be because they totally underestimated the enemy (which seems to be a common occurance in today's world).
I could go on but I have to read the "Farm" book to my two year old granddaughter:sunny:
I totally agree with bradclark1's statement regarding the middle east; when you have a hot bed of religion and fanaticism mixed together, there is no room for democracy.
Syxx_Killer
12-30-06, 07:24 PM
For those who want to see a leaked video of the hanging here it is. The video quality is rather poor. Someone had posted this on another forum.
[edited]
TteFAboB
12-30-06, 07:45 PM
The pathetic camera-man makes it look like a cheap B-movie.
bradclark1
12-30-06, 07:53 PM
The problem with letting the Iraqi's fight it out between themselves is that many Iraqi' groups have close ties with neighbouring countries, which might be tempted or forced to intervene. Major Middle East countries like Egypth and Saudi Arabia are trying to keep the situation under control.
Furthermore an uncontrolled 'burn-out' in Iraq might result in a bonfire for the whole world, given the Middle East oil that the West and recently also the East depend upon for its economic survival.
I fear that a controlled 'burn out' is the lesser of all evils for Iraq...
:-?
Aren't Saudi's unofficialy financing the sunni's?
I can't really remember hearing anything about Eygypt.
Speaking of oil... In 2005 Iraq was pumping out nearly 2,000,000 barrels a day. Didn't find anything for 2006. Where is all the money going?
The pathetic camera-man makes it look like a cheap B-movie.
Yup, I would´ve liked to have some cool special effects on the background... :rotfl:
bradclark1
12-30-06, 07:56 PM
The pathetic camera-man makes it look like a cheap B-movie.
I'll dock his pay. It's so hard to find good people nowadays.:D
Camaero
12-30-06, 08:16 PM
At least now South Park will make sense with Saddam in hell hanging out with satan right?
Type941
12-31-06, 04:18 AM
They US special forces should have shot him in his hiding hole when they found him, not do this f*cking farce of a trial for 2 years and parade it all in the end as a result of democracy triumph over barbarism.
This whole thing makes me uneasy and one more time demotes the value of any human life in a country where it is already down to nothing. All newspapers and sites with graphical images of a man hanged. I'm sorry, i cant have any joy in watching this. I just dont care. These people should be put away without any glory...
In all honesty, hussein should have been neutraized 15 years ago.
Dont get me wrong, the man was guilty of lots of things and probably didnt deserve to live, but that should have been decided by an international court or smth. But since US strongly avoided doing that, there must have been legal reasons that could have allowed saddam to walk away free had he been tried anywhere but in Iraq. Eh.
Another fact is I am not personally attached to anyone in iraq, and cant feel the pain of those who suffered under his rule. For example when this NurPashi Kulaev was sentenced to life in Russia as only survivor of Beslan, I really would have rather seen him hung, or shot or blown up. So obviously the feeling of happiness in Iraq should be high for many.
I dont understand their culture at all though. Its so ****ed up now. But I reckon it has degraded to what it is because of Saddam. So what's done is right, the way it is shown and handled is just probably tastless. Then again, how can you show this tastefully.
baggygreen
12-31-06, 07:07 AM
Quite frankly, i think its a good thing. I only wish it had come sooner.
As regards the politicism of the whole thing, and the 'what next' question in the ME, there is something that irks me about liberals who say that we only need open markets and free trade to make everybody get along. That something is that its not a sense of 'fairness' or anything similar that the militants fight for. Giving them free trade and whatnot to appease them would likely end up with them obtaining more arms more easily. These people are completely opposed to anything and anyone who is not following their own belief structure. Conversion or death are the only two options available to all the 'infidels'. Unfortunately for everybody, they will not be appeased, regardless of what you throw at them.
The west and for that matter the rest, need to toughen up a heck of a lot in order to successfully reduce the threat posed by these radicals. My personal belief is that this clash has been coming for 60 years or more and nothing can have avoided it. Liberals believe that its only the result of US hard diplomacy over the past 20. Regardless, the fact remains that it needs to be dealt with and because of the psyche of these people, appeasement isnt the way.
thats my ooooo 9 or 10 cents worth there. I could keep going with historical comparisons and both religious and cultural reasons for the inevitability of this coming (here?) global conflict but that is my line of work and i dont like bringing work home :) :yep:
Kapitan_Phillips
12-31-06, 07:52 AM
For those who want to see a leaked video of the hanging here it is. The video quality is rather poor. Someone had posted this on another forum.
That made me wretch :dead:
Takeda Shingen
12-31-06, 08:21 AM
For those who want to see a leaked video of the hanging here it is. The video quality is rather poor. Someone had posted this on another forum.
That made me wretch :dead:
You are, evidently, not the only one.
Again, we will not be posting or linking to pictures or films of this event. Google them yourselves if you wish.
Last chance.
I'm not sure why you guys would want to see the hanging? Strikes me as ghoulish.
For those who want to see a leaked video of the hanging here it is. The video quality is rather poor. Someone had posted this on another forum.
That made me wretch :dead:
So why did you click on the link?
bradclark1
12-31-06, 01:17 PM
I'm not sure why you guys would want to see the hanging? Strikes me as ghoulish.
It's human curiosity. People will watch it then say "Oh, people shouldn't watch it it's so terrible." which just draws people like bee's to the honey pot so they can see just how terrible it is and say "people shouldn't watch it it's terrible" which draws even more people.
Or, a lot of people watch NASCAR in the hope of seeing a great wreck.
It's just human nature.
If your or my country televised executions that stations ratings would be the the highest in television history. People would say how terrible and ghoulish it was but you can bet your boots they'll be watching the next one too.
Human nature.
bradclark1
12-31-06, 01:20 PM
For those who want to see a leaked video of the hanging here it is. The video quality is rather poor. Someone had posted this on another forum.
That made me wretch :dead:
So why did you click on the link?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
It's human curiosity. People will watch it then say "Oh, people shouldn't watch it it's so terrible." which just draws people like bee's to the honey pot so they can see just how terrible it is and say "people shouldn't watch it it's terrible" which draws even more people.
Or, a lot of people watch NASCAR in the hope of seeing a great wreck.
It's just human nature.
If your or my country televised executions that stations ratings would be the the highest in television history. People would say how terrible and ghoulish it was but you can bet your boots they'll be watching the next one too.
Human nature.
Yep it's like how they'll never stop rubbernecking at highway accidents.
Yahoshua
12-31-06, 10:07 PM
Finally, one less dictator on the planet.
peterloo
12-31-06, 10:21 PM
executed already... I'm much less interested in that, as he didn't have much influence on me
Said to commit and found guility of "crime against humanity"... I didn't know whether America made this up(Bush had made many stuff up, to support his war in Iraq), but sources showed me about that he really commit that
HISTORY will tell us the turth
Yahoshua
12-31-06, 10:33 PM
Whatever you are smoking, put it down and get rid of it.
Saddam did in fact commit crimes against humanity by massacreing civilians, it is an undisputable fact.
Whatever you are smoking, put it down and get rid of it.
Saddam did in fact commit crimes against humanity by massacreing civilians, it is an undisputable fact.
Yes. :yep:
Who helped him commit the crimes? :hmm:
Whatever you are smoking, put it down and get rid of it.
Saddam did in fact commit crimes against humanity by massacreing civilians, it is an undisputable fact.
Yes. :yep:
Who helped him commit the crimes? :hmm:
What kinda queation is that?
Are you emplying the Military under his command....?
Maybe your implicating the rest of the Arab world ...?
Is your view pushing the limmits of holding the Russia and China also in light...?
Are you pointing a finger at France and Germany...?
Can you be thinking the USA and Britian and whoever else has ties to the UN are involved...?
Maybe you should wonder why this dude hassnt fixed his "Spell Checker"(The button keeps dissappearing)[where was I]
umm... oh yeah...
Don't you point your finger at America, as the rest of the world tries to do when something goes wrong .
:stare:
Okay I can agree with Abraham in the post below.
Let us know what your up on man!
My wife is cooking Greens and Blackeyed Peas for New Years Day ...It's a southern tradition, you wouldn't understand...
but if ya aint pointing at America then ... Come on down theres a plate here at my table for ya.:sunny:
This is gonna be a good'un Cracklin Corn Bread,Fresh Collards cooked with Saltpork, Blackeyed Peas cooked with Bacon drippin's served over white rice, Fried Catfish and for dessert Bananna Puddin' and for an after dinner beverage Wild Turkey 101 on the rocks if you please.
If any of you need an explaination as to what us southern folk is eaten and why.. just PM me.:sunny: :) :D :sunny:
Abraham
01-01-07, 11:26 AM
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Who helped him commit the crimes? :hmm:
If you mean: "Who helped him stay in power during the Iranian/Iragi war (aka 'Gulf War')?" the answer is: Almost the whole world, including Russia, France, Britain and the USA. He was at that time considered less of a threat than Ayatolla Khomeini.
If you mean: "Who helped him gass the Kurds?" the answer is: His inner circle and a Dutch salesman who delivered the ingredients for mustard gas to Saddam and who was convicted to 20 years of jail in october 2005.
If you mean: "Who helped him slaughter the opposition?" the answer should be: His inner circle and the secret police.
Saddam will not be the only one who to be judged, I guess...
ASWnut101
01-01-07, 04:49 PM
Or, a lot of people watch NASCAR in the hope of seeing a great wreck.
....Im guilty for that....:lol:
Sadam's death came 20 or so years too late. Too bad the SOF dudes who found him hiding didn't pour some kerosene in the hole and "drop" a ciggerette....that man was sick.
Wim Libaers
01-01-07, 05:30 PM
Whatever you are smoking, put it down and get rid of it.
Saddam did in fact commit crimes against humanity by massacreing civilians, it is an undisputable fact.
I think he was referring specifically to the term "crimes against humanity", i.e., not asking whether Saddam had committed them, but who invented the term. A justified question I think, after all, killing enemy leaders is a well established tradition in human history, but doing it because of "crimes against humanity" seems to be a rather recent phenomenon.
bradclark1
01-01-07, 07:30 PM
It was first used in 1915 against the Ottoman Goverment. The term was also used in the Nuremberg Trials so I wouldn't call it recent.
nutworld
01-01-07, 07:32 PM
Said to commit and found guility of "crime against humanity"... I didn't know whether America made this up(Bush had made many stuff up, to support his war in Iraq), but sources showed me about that he really commit that
HISTORY will tell us the turth
Care to clarify the comment Peter?
If your concern is the actual quote "crimes against humanity" I understand your point, if your point is to doubt that he did such activity, please do a little looking around on the web. There are facts that prove his guilt.
baggygreen
01-01-07, 10:58 PM
Oh he was guilty as buggery. A girl i Went to Uni with was Iraqi, a kurd. She was granted asylum a number of years ago. She has with her a photo of her grandfather, curled up horribly with pain etched into his face before he died of gas. Two reasons she carries such a troubling photo - one is that its the only one she has of him, and the other is that she takes it out and shows the 'socialist alternative' wackos that yeh, crap like this did happen. You know their reaction? laughed and called her a liar and pathetic worm of the 'imperialist capitalist bush pig'.:damn:
he went to visit the quack shortly thereafter, courtesy of a high-heeled kick to the groin and face.:rock:
Without any will to enter a death penalty discussion, I just wish to point out that my argument against DP has never been moral but practical. There is a chance of error, which is intolerable to me.
With Saddam it looks however that there was no error...must reconsider my arguments :hmm:
The Avon Lady
01-02-07, 07:39 AM
With Saddam it looks however that there was no error...must reconsider my arguments :hmm:
He supposedly had many doubles.
Oh oh! :88)
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3940/0cm0.gif
He supposedly had many doubles.
Oh oh! :88)
Ah, see that...I was right in my arguments then :lol: :smug:
Although I have never been a fan of spanish movies, there are some very nice ones. Some years ago there was a movie that told a fictional story about a man who was kidnapped by the secret police and used as a double of Franco. Because of his continuous performance and his progressive friendship with the true one, he finally continued when the real Franco died, and is supposed to be the man now buried in the Franco memorial "Valle de los Caídos". A nice story, a movie I liked to see back then. And who knows how much truth or fiction may be on it.....:88)
So no death penalty for practical reasons. Who knows if the guy cutting Kebab on the restaurant in the corner is the one of gasified the kurds, and the one who was hung is the guy who used to cut Kebab??
Thanks God there was never a trial against Elvis.....
I hear on the news the footage of the hanging was done on a mobile phone.
The Munster
01-03-07, 12:07 PM
With Saddam it looks however that there was no error...must reconsider my arguments :hmm:
He supposedly had many doubles.
Oh oh! :88)
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3940/0cm0.gif
What's that thing he is holding a knife to ? Looks like S**T on a stick ?!
The Avon Lady
01-03-07, 12:18 PM
With Saddam it looks however that there was no error...must reconsider my arguments :hmm:
He supposedly had many doubles.
Oh oh! :88)
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3940/0cm0.gif
What's that thing he is holding a knife to ? Looks like S**T on a stick ?!
That's shwarma and it's usually delicious! :yep:
The Munster
01-03-07, 12:21 PM
I think I'll .. er .. pass on that one !
He supposedly had many doubles.
Oh oh! :88)
Ah, see that...I was right in my arguments then :lol: :smug:
Although I have never been a fan of spanish movies, there are some very nice ones. Some years ago there was a movie that told a fictional story about a man who was kidnapped by the secret police and used as a double of Franco. Because of his continuous performance and his progressive friendship with the true one, he finally continued when the real Franco died, and is supposed to be the man now buried in the Franco memorial "Valle de los Caídos". A nice story, a movie I liked to see back then. And who knows how much truth or fiction may be on it.....:88)
So no death penalty for practical reasons. Who knows if the guy cutting Kebab on the restaurant in the corner is the one of gasified the kurds, and the one who was hung is the guy who used to cut Kebab??
Thanks God there was never a trial against Elvis.....
Here in the USA (at least where I live some of us have common sense)we have a saying " If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas ".
Another saying we have is " You are known by the company you keep ".
I guess what the" common sense "and " tried and true " lesson here is ...
YOUR GUILTY BY ASSOCATION
can of worms is now open have at it
The Avon Lady
01-03-07, 01:02 PM
I think I'll .. er .. pass on that one !
It's layers of lamb meat, going around a vertical open flame rotisserie.
But, hey, if you like cucumber sandwiches, don't let me spoil your day.
:p
TteFAboB
01-03-07, 01:17 PM
I think I'll .. er .. pass on that one !
It's layers of lamb meat, going around a vertical open flame rotisserie.
But, hey, if you like cucumber sandwiches, don't let me spoil your day.
No doubt on the second point, however, you have no clue what that meat is. Lamb meat? That's what Saddam #2 wants you to think! If I had to bet I'd say those are layers of about six cats and one pigeon. :dead: It's a biological weapon of mass intestinal destruction.
Shwarma is awesome in moderation! :D
As far as this whole video thing, oh honestly! The true colors came out in that video, and now the [Iraqi] government's got their panties in a bunch over it getting out and 'upsetting the situation among factions' in Iraq. And that's Iraqi democracy that's cost the coalition so much, censoring the ugly in what's been lauded as a 'turning point' in their history?
Eh, Putin was right. :p
The Avon Lady
01-04-07, 12:17 AM
The true colors came out in that video
I thought the colors were a bit subdued with a greenish fluorescent tinge that could have been reduced by an FL filter.
The Avon Lady
01-08-07, 04:55 PM
The Iraqi version of "Family Feud" (http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1347).
It was a tough decision whether to post this here or on the "Fun(ny) Thread." :hmm:
ASWnut101
01-08-07, 05:04 PM
OMG!!! that was hilarious!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
notice how in the 'heated' part of the argument, there were so few subtitles? I could get a friend to translate it, but it wont come out as appropriate for this board.:rotfl:
Schatten
01-08-07, 07:04 PM
The Iraqi version of "Family Feud" (http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1347).
It was a tough decision whether to post this here or on the "Fun(ny) Thread." :hmm:
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
TteFAboB
01-08-07, 08:23 PM
The guy on the right looks like a mixture between Hitler and Borat.
I'll explain myself:
When he rises from his chair and throws the papers at the other guy and start speaking about Masters he looks and sounds exactly like our favourite speecher Herr Hitler. Then, when he accuses the guy of being Persian or Iranian he is doing exactly like Borat when a Khazak authority said something about him, don't remember who, and Borat replied that such authority was in fact an Uzbekhi impostor, from Uzbekhistan.
So, you go Mr. Hitleborat Iraqi MP. You should have told the US you were willing to submit to your Master. Sure, sure, it's not as easy as that, you may demand some trade-offs, a little embezzling here, a little favouring there. Nothing that can't be arranged, little selfish state-benefits in return for loyal service to a homicidal dictator huh?
May Allah have mercy on your soul.
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