X1: British Convoy Killing Sub

[Onkel Neal]

An interesting article about a massive sub the Brits could have used on the Germans in WWII:

The X1, a triumph of British naval engineering, would have been a major force in the Second World War, according to Roger Cook, from Swansea.

The huge vessel was as big a political embarrassment to the UK's diplomats as it could have been a destroyer of enemy convoys.



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[bigboywooly]

:o Now that would make a cool playable sub
Sounds more like a submersable cruiser

[AVGWarhawk]

To bad there is no pictures with the article or even a sketch. But WOW, how the war could have turned if this baby was cruising about!

[Morts]

sounds like something you wouldn like meet

unless you had the element of suprise and knew how to use it properly

[Tigrone]

Surcouf: The largest operational submarine in the world during her service.

Well, as you might expect, the French did build it, and it did not work very well. Very cool though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_Surcouf

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[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Submarine_X1

heres link for that sub i think correct me if im wrong :yep:

[Jimbuna]

I wonder how the French Surcouf and her would have compared ? :hmm:

Surcouf:
Displacement:3250 tons surfaced
4304 tons submerged
2880 tons deadLength:110 metres (361 feet)Beam:9 metres (29.5 feet)Draught:7.25 metres (23.8 feet)Propulsion:surfaced: two Sulzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulzer) diesel engines 7600hp
submerged: two electric motors 3400hp
two propellersSpeed:18.5 knots surfaced
10 knots submerged
Range:18,500 kilometres (10,000 nautical miles) at 10 knots surfaced
12,600 kilometres (6800 nautical miles) at 13.5 knots surfaced
130 kilometres (70 nautical miles) at 4.5 knots submerged

110 kilometres (60 nautical miles) at 5 knots submergedTest depth:80 metres (250 feet)Capacity:280 tonsComplement:eight officers
110 menArmament:two 203 mm (eight-inch) guns in twin turret
two 37 mm antiaircraft cannon
four 13.2 mm antiaircraft machineguns
eight 550 mm torpedo tubes (14 torpedoes carried)

four 400 mm torpedo tubes (eight torpedoes carried)Aircraft carried:one Besson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besson) MB.411 float plane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Float_plane)

[Letum]

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/img_400/N3556.jpg
http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/submarines/subs003.jpg

[Wulfmann]

Let us not forget the WWI M class Brit subs with their 305MM (12inch) gun.
This was to be used as shore bombardment but the Brits felt if they used it the Germans would copy the idea so decided not to use it as they were more vunerable to a duplicate weapon.
Like buying a shotgun to protect your family but not shooting the intruder for fear of his lawyer!

Wulfmann

[Wulfmann]

Imagine if this could be turned and fired to the broadside! How many roll overs would it make?

Wulfmann

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/Wulfmann/m-1-sub.jpg

[Schatten]

Okay now that's just scary. I wonder how much of the performance would be retained on an operational boat as compared to the specs though. At first glance I'd guess it'd actually handle like a pig on ice. :hmm:

[Morts]

sure its a U-boat? not a U-artillery :rotfl:

[Letum]

Lets not forget the german type IX subs. They never got off the drawing board tho....

http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/154277/154277_1122152994.jpg

[Jimbuna]

WOW :o ....what a beautiful picture :up:

[Engel der Vernichtung]

Lets not forget the german type IX subs. They never got off the drawing board tho....


Don't you mean Type XI (11, as opposed to 9? The Type IX was the ocean-going boat. Type IXB, IXC, IXD2, etc...)?

[edjcox]

Let's get the type XI modded into the game... We could start a whole series of Superweapon mods that might fit into the Naval arena and work in the game...


http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1prBCtpy9yqTqgwTzRyeff4e9PUekqWxjn4ppWF9iQjZoxWOM GUjn8rSuwEu9m3me_JSf7hFzrGZRmW6GcS76KdHP2tnyz_Ng3I 7x99-hpxAQ


Any takers??:smug:

[Pants]

Gibs has erm..*cough* a U-Cruiser it's a type IX with 5 105mm DG's ;) So in theory these X-craft could be possible.
With regards to the XI

The projected specifications of the Type XI U-Cruiser were:
Length (oa):115 meters
Width: 9.5 meters
Draught: 6.2 meters
Displacement: 3 630 tons.
Propulsion: 2-shaft diesel/electric motors,(eight 12cyl. diesel engines in two separate engine rooms plus two electric motors in a seperate compartment).
Armament: 4 bow TT.
2 stern TT.
4 X 12.7cm cannon in two twin armored turrets.
2 X 3.7cm AA cannon.
2 X 2 cm AA mounted in Wintergarten.
1 X Arado reconnaissance seaplane.
Crew: 110 men, plus capacity to carry approximately 60 Brandenburgers.

[Melonfish]

actually is there any way to just spawn turrets on a type X? obviously the largest. perhaps where the deck gun would normally be stick a twin 105 turret or sommat?
does anyone know if this is at all possible? or is this hard-coded?

pete

edited for stupidity.

[danlisa]

Spawn = No, Edit the model = Yes

Infact, CCIP (IIRC) even placed BB turrets on planes and tugs. I'll see if I can find the link.

EDIT - Check this thread out.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=83595&highlight=catafark

[Melonfish]

thanks danlisa, thats a cracking link!
this gives me much hope for seeing my turreted u-boat come to life!
pete

[Jimbuna]

Spawn = No, Edit the model = Yes

Infact, CCIP (IIRC) even placed BB turrets on planes and tugs. I'll see if I can find the link.

EDIT - Check this thread out.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=83595&highlight=catafark

dan...I thought the Kpt. had given express orders the new weapons were not to be disclosed till the release of the GWX update!! :o

[Melonfish]

dan...I thought the Kpt. had given express orders the new weapons were not to be disclosed till the release of the GWX update!! :o

stop getting our hopes up! ;)

hehe, na i want to try this myself so, i asked he answered.
pete