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Jmack
12-26-06, 09:29 PM
i found this amazing picture of a u-boat following a convoy , its very weird judging for the radar antena its in advanced years of the war a u-boat following a convoy on surface and no escorts in site , i believe that there is camera filming this in front of the hatches probably for propaganda uses ... wich could mean that it is a friendly convoy , but the ships are changing their headings ...

anyway its a great shot http://www.uboataces.com/photos/2006214753182388.jpg

GT182
12-26-06, 09:40 PM
Nice picture Jmack, and a good find too. :up:

The Uboat doesn't seem to be moving, no bow spray that I can see. Looks like they've been loading torpedos from the external stores into the forward torpedo room. I wonder what the 4 hatches are for just behind the 2 crewmen up front. :hmm: And no deckgun can be seen either.

Ducimus
12-26-06, 09:43 PM
As i recall, that is a picture of a training excercise. Not an acutal combat photo.

Jmack
12-26-06, 10:07 PM
i think its a type VIIC/41 ... not shure , but it apears not to have the deck gun, the hatches are watertight compartments for inflatable liferafts

Letum
12-26-06, 10:44 PM
i think its a type VIIC/41 ... not shure , but it apears not to have the deck gun, the hatches are watertight compartments for inflatable liferafts

Yup, its a either a /41 or a torpedo boat, but thats unlikely.

edjcox
12-26-06, 11:45 PM
Can you say Mine.....


Could this be a mine layer?

Notice the Aircraft in the upper right?

Letum
12-26-06, 11:49 PM
Can you say Mine.....


Could this be a mine layer?

Notice the Aircraft in the upper right?

Nah, common mistake.
I used to think those hatches where for mines, it seams they are not tho.

Jimbuna
12-27-06, 06:21 AM
Apart from the lack of a bow wave I was gonna add that they're awful close to the ships in such fine weather for wartime conditions :yep:

Great photo Jmack :up:

AVGWarhawk
12-27-06, 08:44 AM
Yeah, man on the conning tower seems awefully relaxed for a wartime engagement. I go with the exercise comment myself:up:

Jmack
12-27-06, 11:51 AM
the fact that they are close to the convoy it would be normal in early days of the war where they would use the deck gun and the convoys where not escorted or poorly escorted. But has we can se for the radar and the absense of deck gun its not early war. and yes the boat looks to be stoped or very slow , wich its normal considering that they are filming the event.

if anyone knows anything more from this photo i would like to know it

the original picture is from http://www.uboataces.com/

and the legend says : " A U-boat stalking a convoy, which can be seen scattered ahead. "

SilverGhost
12-27-06, 12:05 PM
It is a Type VIIC/41...note the mine deployment tubes (yes, Letum, they are mines) and schnorkel. Deck guns were mostly history by early '42 and most commanders opted them off the boats in favor of better AA guns. With the advent of the Type VIID (and all subsequent models)...deck guns weren't even installed.

Jmack
12-27-06, 03:33 PM
no they are not mines SilverGhost ... they are watertight containers for liferafts

AVGWarhawk
12-27-06, 04:02 PM
I think they launch ICBM!:o

Martin1813
12-27-06, 04:17 PM
montage ? :roll:
Colors of the sea and of the boat mix so well...


Difficult to say but I think the waves' shadows may indicate that the light comes from ahead, on the left, while the radar's shadow shows it comes from behind...

I know I can be absoloutly wrong, but forgive me, I'm a color vision deficient:down:


But what is tis huge hole (looks like a hole...) just down the coning tower ?

AVGWarhawk
12-27-06, 04:23 PM
montage ? :roll:
Colors of the sea and of the boat mix so well...


Difficult to say but I think the waves' shadows may indicate that the light comes from ahead, on the left, while the radar's shadow shows it comes from behind...

I know I can be absoloutly wrong, but forgive me, I'm a color vision deficient:down:


But what is tis huge hole (looks like a hole...) just down the coning tower ?

The hole looks like a torpedo loading ramp to me.

rasmus1896
12-27-06, 04:29 PM
i have a question about uboats launcing mines:
did uboats launc mines when they were moving (forward)?

if they did they would sink themselves by launcing a mine from a bow tube wouldnt they?

Letum
12-27-06, 04:30 PM
(yes, Letum, they are mines)
No, SilverGhost, they are not mines.
Only 3 types of mines where used by u-boats and all of them where deployed via the torpedo hatches apart from the Type XB minelaying boats wich have 30 mine shafts, but these look very, very diffrent to the hatches in the picture.

*edit* You can clearly see mine hatches either side of the conning tower on this XB boat. There are none on the foward deck (not shown in pic)

http://www.b3tards.com/u/57a418c694bc7c6296b3/u1172.jpg



i have a question about u boats launching mines:
did u boats launch mines when they were moving (forward , backward)?

if they did they would sink themselves by launching a mine from a bow tube wouldn't they?
The Mines almost allways set off on a magnetic trigger. there was a time delay of at least a day on the mines so the u-boat could easily lay more mines and escape. Mines where deployed usually from the bow tubes in order to keep the stern tube free as a defensive weapon against destroyers (however it wasn't very useful for this in actual combat!). I would guess you would put your u-boat in reverse to avoid banging into the mines you lay, however this would not make them explode, it might mess up the depth keeping.

edjcox
12-28-06, 02:09 AM
Here ist a typical U Boat Minen armament

Thirty mine shafts, free flooding type. Six in keel line through the bow compartment, 3 mines per shaft; 12 through starboard tanks, outboard of pressure hull, 2 mines per shaft; 12 through port tanks, outboard of pressure hull, 2 mines per shaft



http://www.uboataces.com/weapon-mines.shtml


Alzo immer weiter, vielicht lernin zie etwas...:know: