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I am currently reading a great book called Dönitz and the Wolfpacks, and its basically a in depth description of selected encounters between convoys and wolf packs throughout the war.
This book really opened my eyes to the stress the sailors in convoys were under, particularly during "Happy Times", as they often knew they were being shadowed by wolf packs (due to intercepted radio traffic from the uboats), and that the attack would likely come at night. Often the packs followed the convoy for days whilst waiting for even more uboats to join the party before they attacked. This ment the sailors didn`t sleep at all, just bit their nails and hoped for hurricanes or even krakens.
What a shame this is not in SH3!
This is classic drama at its best, just like the movie Jaws. Imagine the ships all huddled together waiting for the unevitable trail of bubbles.
I am very surprised no film has dealt with this, since covering this from the merchants would mean lots of suspense and drama. Its just to good not to do something about.
I am a writer by trade, so dont be to surprised if there is a (based on real events) fiction novel about such an encounter one day. :D
I reccomend all read Dönitz and the Wolf Packs by Bernard(!) Edwards! Great book!
Here is a cool piece from the book:
True, (convoy) ON 113 had lost two ships, but the tanker British Merit was still afloat and under tow by a tug from St John`s. It seemed to (captain) Campbell that the worst was over.
When Campbell saw a school of whales breaking the surface to port, his first reaction was to call for his passengers to come on deck. They came, the two small girls agog with excitement. It was one of the girls who then pointed out another lone whale surfacing on the quarter minutes later. Campbell turned to look, and froze as he saw a line of bubbles break away from the "whale" and race towards his ship.
Vogelsang`s first torpedo struck the Pacific Pioneer immediately under her bridge; five seconds later his second exploded in her No. 5 hold, just abaft the engine-room bulkhead.
Just imagine that scene in a movie! OMG!
PS: The ship sank within 45 minutes, with no casualities. Alle were picked up by the corvette Calgary.
I am a writer by trade, so dont be to surprised if there is a (based on real events) fiction novel about such an encounter one day. :D
:o:o That would truly be a GREAT movie! And i'll bet you could write an excellent fiction novel about this! Nice one, Stabiz!:up::up:
Edit: BTW: I just ordered the book. I need to read this, it sounds thrilling!:rock:
Jimbuna
12-25-06, 04:34 PM
Go for it stabiz :up: ...was pleased to read there were no casualties :yep:
I have read one from the convoys point of view it was about PQ17 however I can't remember the title and I'm 40 miles from my bookshelves as I'm at work:cry: ...hold on might be night of the uboats or night of the wolfpacks. I'll try and find out.
Go for it stabiz :up: ...was pleased to read there were no casualties :yep:
Me too, since at least one of the ships carried civilians. (Nobody wants two little girls to go down)
Sailor Steve
12-26-06, 12:17 PM
Stabiz, have you ever read The Cruel Sea? Written by one who lived through the real thing. It's one of the best.
mr chris
12-26-06, 05:29 PM
I had a great xmas and got loads of books about the U-Boat war.
he is what i got.
U-Boat Commander - Peter Cremer
Grey Wolf, Grey Sea - E.B. Gasaway
Operation Drumbeat - Michael Gannon
U-Boat 997 - Heinz Schaeffer
The Laughing Cow - Jost Metzler
Bitter Ocean - David Fairbank White
Steel Boat, Iron Hearts - Hans Goebeler
U-Boat Aces - Geoffrey Jones
Walker R.N - Terence Robertson
Shadow Drivers - Robert Kurson
I really cant wait to get reading all these it should keep me busy while im out on patrol.
I look forward to see your book in stores in the future Stabiz:up:
bigboywooly
12-26-06, 05:30 PM
WOW Chris
Are they trying to tell you something ?
:rotfl:
mr chris
12-26-06, 05:34 PM
WOW Chris
Are they trying to tell you something ?
:rotfl:
Most likely mate. Though i have already read Steel Boat, Iron Hearts - Hans Goebeler. The really is nothing good on tv over Christmas:rotfl:
Though i did get told off for continuely watching the world at war yesterday on the history channel the wife was not impressed. :oops:
Subwolf
12-26-06, 07:19 PM
Stabiz, you say that you are an author, or write for a living? May I ask what you have released?
Jimbuna
12-26-06, 07:58 PM
That is some list there chris mate :yep:
The only book I got was Silent Victory...but that should at least help me to prepare for SH4 or you know what in the future ;)
Stabiz, you say that you are an author, or write for a living? May I ask what you have released? His books have been sold to Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland. He writes excellent (Some of the best stuff i have read, and i have read a lot..), but i think he can inform you if he wants, mates.:yep:
Subwolf
12-26-06, 10:46 PM
Really? Not bad. I would like to know his name or author name, maybe you can PM me Seth.
I dont want to sound hars, mate, but i think he should decide himself if he wants his name revealed... I dont think its proper to give it away without his approval...Please, i dont want to be a jerk, but we have to respect his private life.:oops: I hope you understand, mate. You could PM him and ask..
Subwolf
12-26-06, 11:17 PM
Hehe, okey Seth...you got a deal. A least you are a man we can trust :up:
His work is released in Finland! I gotta get one of his books!! :rock:
WilhelmSchulz.
12-27-06, 01:12 AM
I am currently reading a great book called Dönitz and the Wolfpacks, and its basically a in depth description of selected encounters between convoys and wolf packs throughout the war.
This book really opened my eyes to the stress the sailors in convoys were under, particularly during "Happy Times", as they often knew they were being shadowed by wolf packs (due to intercepted radio traffic from the uboats), and that the attack would likely come at night. Often the packs followed the convoy for days whilst waiting for even more uboats to join the party before they attacked. This ment the sailors didn`t sleep at all, just bit their nails and hoped for hurricanes or even krakens.
What a shame this is not in SH3!
This is classic drama at its best, just like the movie Jaws. Imagine the ships all huddled together waiting for the unevitable trail of bubbles.
I am very surprised no film has dealt with this, since covering this from the merchants would mean lots of suspense and drama. Its just to good not to do something about.
I am a writer by trade, so dont be to surprised if there is a (based on real events) fiction novel about such an encounter one day. :D
I reccomend all read Dönitz and the Wolf Packs by Bernard(!) Edwards! Great book!
Here is a cool piece from the book:
True, (convoy) ON 113 had lost two ships, but the tanker British Merit was still afloat and under tow by a tug from St John`s. It seemed to (captain) Campbell that the worst was over.
When Campbell saw a school of whales breaking the surface to port, his first reaction was to call for his passengers to come on deck. They came, the two small girls agog with excitement. It was one of the girls who then pointed out another lone whale surfacing on the quarter minutes later. Campbell turned to look, and froze as he saw a line of bubbles break away from the "whale" and race towards his ship.
Vogelsang`s first torpedo struck the Pacific Pioneer immediately under her bridge; five seconds later his second exploded in her No. 5 hold, just abaft the engine-room bulkhead.
Just imagine that scene in a movie! OMG!
PS: The ship sank within 45 minutes, with no casualities. Alle were picked up by the corvette Calgary.
If you read carefuly you will notice thats where I get many of my mission Ideas from. :huh:
Jimbuna
12-27-06, 05:38 AM
I dont want to sound hars, mate, but i think he should decide himself if he wants his name revealed... I dont think its proper to give it away without his approval...Please, i dont want to be a jerk, but we have to respect his private life.:oops: I hope you understand, mate. You could PM him and ask..
:yep: :up:
Herr Russ
12-27-06, 01:03 PM
Speaking of books, I'm currently reading 'Torpedo Junction' about the operations against the Atlantic Seaboard & the US Coast Guards actions against the U-boats.. I received 'Iron Coffins' for Christmas & can't wait to get to that...
I am currently reading a great book called Dönitz and the Wolfpacks
I read the book some years ago, yep it's a good book. :up:
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