Should there be a 1x player thread?

[codmander]

It is totally diffrent game playing at 1x...Once in a while I will do 1X patrol ussally when my assigned grid isn't a million miles away.Or when a new mod comes out. Some tips for the 1x player!
1. patiance
2. sh3 works and runs great in the background surfin and run the game
3.put the volume up when walkin away from your pc((yes the mad dash from the toilet happens even at 1x))
4.watch tv with the volume a bit lower
5.Its far more exciting when you finnally do bump into somthing sound checks are 10 times more important

I look at sh3 like this... tc all day to sink 1 ship or 1x and maybe sink a ship If you never tryed no tc its definately worth it--- Have a great day:know:

[Cpt. Stewker]

The first time I played SH3, on my first patrol I played 1x.

I started in Norway and sailed to Scapa Flow all on 1x. On the return trip though I caved and cranked up the TC.

Then when GWX first came out. I played 1x until I was out of the harbor and in open water. Watching harbor traffic and planes and all that.

EDIT: Hmm, and infact this talk about 1x patroling brings to mind an old PC Gamer article I read... oh I'd guess a couple months after the game came out. It was in the Sim Column, written by Andy Mahood, a SH3 fan, and was talking about some guy who detailed a whole 1x patrol and made updates in real time. How he just took like a week off of work and played the game the whole time. Wonder if his account is still around...

[AVGWarhawk]

The highest I go is 32x. No further because well, do to time constraints off work playing 1x would be very difficult. However some nights I do 1x if time allows and just cruise on the conning tower hoping something will happen.

[codmander]

a good 1x starter is to set in folder sh3/data/cfg/main enemy detected to 1x ((the one in "my documents")) this will keep you at 1x when any enemy is spotted and/or till they dissapear:rock:

Bravo guys glad i am not the only ((real vitrual u boat cappy)) out there

nothin like leaning on the rail watchin the moon rise :)

[Corsair]

Then when GWX first came out. I played 1x until I was out of the harbor and in open water. Watching harbor traffic and planes and all that.

Always did in all mods and always do (same for docking back home) I find it to be a very enjoyable moment and immersive introduction / end for a patrol... May be comes from being born and lived so many years by and on the sea...:D

[AVGWarhawk]

a good 1x starter is to set in folder sh3/data/cfg/main enemy detected to 1x ((the one in "my documents")) this will keep you at 1x when any enemy is spotted and/or till they dissapear:rock:

Bravo guys glad i am not the only ((real vitrual u boat cappy)) out there

Hmmmm, I might give that a go!

[The Munster]

I can see your point but number 1 is the BIG problem for me = PATIENCE ! I just don't have any; I can't even sit for 90 minutes and watch a Film on the Gogglebox.
In my heart, I know that if I'd been a U-Boat Kapitan in real life, my lack of patience would have sent me and my Crew to the bottom.

[Corsair]

The good thing about a sim like SH3 is that you don't have to sit there all the time. It can run in the background while you're doing something else, as long as you can hear when your presence is urgently needed...;)

[FongFongFong]

The good thing about a sim like SH3 is that you don't have to sit there all the time. It can run in the background while you're doing something else, as long as you can hear when your presence is urgently needed...;)aircraft spotted only slows you down to 8x compression.

you gotta be quick sometimes.

Similar problems on calm seas when you finally spot a DD.
They may already know where you are.

[AVGWarhawk]

The good thing about a sim like SH3 is that you don't have to sit there all the time. It can run in the background while you're doing something else, as long as you can hear when your presence is urgently needed...;)aircraft spotted only slows you down to 8x compression.

you gotta be quick sometimes.

Similar problems on calm seas when you finally spot a DD.
They may already know where you are.

So can it be dropped to say 2x in this situation? Currently if I'm in 32x TC and a plane arrives I have it set to diver to scope depth automatically.

[VIICDriver]

For some reason I cannot task switch out of SH3. Just basically pauses the game and screen starts flickering. CTRL-ALT-DEL will not even do it.

Chuck

[The Munster]

@FongFongFong
Similarly, ship spotted takes you down to 8.
The worst bit is when you get the Convoy message and you're running at, say, 256 .. by the time you've gone down to 1, an hour and a half has gone by !

[codmander]

souns like a keyboard issue VIIC DRIVER runnin sh3 as i speak/type:up:

[Sailor Steve]

The good thing about a sim like SH3 is that you don't have to sit there all the time. It can run in the background while you're doing something else, as long as you can hear when your presence is urgently needed...;)aircraft spotted only slows you down to 8x compression.

you gotta be quick sometimes.

Similar problems on calm seas when you finally spot a DD.
They may already know where you are.
SH3 Commander lets you set Time Compression parameters to anything you want. Airplane and ship spottings, mine drops to 1x. Radio messages, mine drops to 1x.

[The Munster]

The good thing about a sim like SH3 is that you don't have to sit there all the time. It can run in the background while you're doing something else, as long as you can hear when your presence is urgently needed...;)aircraft spotted only slows you down to 8x compression.

you gotta be quick sometimes.

Similar problems on calm seas when you finally spot a DD.
They may already know where you are.
SH3 Commander lets you set Time Compression parameters to anything you want. Airplane and ship spottings, mine drops to 1x. Radio messages, mine drops to 1x.

Radio Messages are a pain in the A** .. they stop me in my tracks when I'm doing Warp Factor 7 [TC 256]

[FongFongFong]

[quote=Sailor Steve]Radio Messages are a pain in the A** .. they stop me in my tracks when I'm doing Warp Factor 7 [TC 256]in the data folder
in the campaign folder
hack and slash the message file.

[Boris]

The first time I discovered that people actually patrolled in real time I was both shocked and amazed. :o
That's ridiculous, what losers I thought... until

until today, where I still feel the same way :D

[Letum]

I played 2 missions in 1xTC The first one lasted 4 weeks of game time and ~6 weeks of my time. The first 2 night I couldn't sleep at all because I had the volume on loud, the 3rd night I was glad the volume was on loud when I was woken up by the watch reporting 2 aircraft.
If I was still a student I would do it again.
I even grew a beard ;)

[Ducimus]

Should there be a 1x player thread?

Yes.

You nutjubs are in a league of your own, and are, in my opinion, the only ones qualified to discuss any sense of the word, "realistic".

[codmander]

After all it is a u boat simulator not a game 1x will give you a bigger piece of what it might of been like in reality the total dulldrums to sheer terror of course 600 other things are still missin like gettin throw around in weather/sea spray and the nasty smell after the crew had beans for dinner:dead:

[CNemo]

oh,gosh - before I realized there was tc, were many long, long journeys. I hate anything above 256, mi Lady prefers 1024+....

[Letum]

After all it is a u boat simulator not a game 1x will give you a bigger piece of what it might of been like in reality the total dulldrums to sheer terror of course 600 other things are still missin like gettin throw around in weather/sea spray and the nasty smell after the crew had beans for dinner:dead:


I found that 1xTC lacked realism in many ways. It would have been much better if I had a "crew" so I didnt have to be on watch 24x7.
But its a good way to make time to read all those books I was supposed to read for my course.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

... and I thought I was the only one that dreamed of doing 1x patrols.

I'm getting a baby monitor so I can go wash my dishes / clean house and still listen to the crew incase of emergency.

Now, if I can only figure out how to hit the "C" button remotely... I can run down the hallway to the control room and scare the hell out of my dogs!

1x sailing rocks!:rock: :rock: :rock:

...and yes I am barking mad!

[FongFongFong]

... and I thought I was the only one that
Now, if I can only figure out how to hit the "C" button remotely... I can run down the hallway to the control room and scare the hell out of my dogs!

1x sailing rocks!:rock: :rock: :rock:

...and yes I am barking mad!the c button is easy

robotics and a garage door opener (with remote)

[GraylingSTS(SS)]

... getting a baby monitor so I can go wash my dishes / clean house and still listen to the crew incase of emergency.

It's just not right ya know...:nope:

The Captain should NOT have to crank in the galley and do field day. Didn't you learn to DELEGATE at the academy???

Get the Nubs to do the dishes...let the Non-Quals clean up, and do what a real submarine officer does best...play cribbage and "supervise"! :lol:

[codmander]

U45 Left Wilhelmshaven sept 1 game time(((like 4 days ago my time))) current grid AN44 or 340nm southeast(109 degrees) of scapa flow -sept 4th- so far got 2 tramp steamers (1 nuetral) and been attack by 3 aircraft at once . weather greats - but do expect trouble soon going threw the the pass north of scapa.The sun just came up so on the lookout for air patrols! did go flank speed till i got close to the britsh coast ON A WESTERLY COURSE out of port than standard NORTH along the coast ------patrol grid ----------------------------------------BE:shifty: 61

[kkentopanga]

I love playing GWX at 1x. I want to get to my area and sink ships but I think getting there in other then 1x is like getting there in a jet sub. If I were not retired I would probably not love 1x as much. I have nothing to do but play GWX all day. Luck, lucky me. BY THE WAY HOW IN THE HECK DO YOU PUT THE SIM IN THE BACKGROUND. I run full screen and do not know hopw to back ground.

[codmander]

Hit the windows key bottom row of keys 2nd from the left

[les green01]

no tc for me and a spray bottle with water at the desk

[U-104]

got a new boat to do a no tc game.............................oh boy:o:o

[The Munster]

Baby monitor is a great idea for 1x ! E-Bay here I come.

[cobalt]

do you people have jobs?

[Safe-Keeper]

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1094/notcaa5.jpg (http://imageshack.us);)
SH3 Commander is great:up:.

do you people have jobs?It's not like I sit at my computer all the time during a patrol doing nothing else. I read books, post here, do my homework, pet my cat, play with my dog, and what the Heck not.

And then there's always "Save&Exit":p.

[codmander]

work? thats a 4 lettered word tarred n feathered for lesser thoughts:oops:

still spend the same amout of time at my pc not in any hurry time compressers make terrible fisherman--no patience



http://home.comcast.net/~codmander

[kurtz]

Great thread, now when Mrs Kurtz complains I can show her this and she can think herself lucky it only takes me 2hours to sink a ship before I put her dinner on the table:D

[Safe-Keeper]

Still in school taking the subjects I need, so no work here except school-work:p.

I've told the game to pause upon aircraft sightings. It's saved my hide repeatedly.

[The Munster]

Great thread, now when Mrs Kurtz complains I can show her this and she can think herself lucky it only takes me 2hours to sink a ship before I put her dinner on the table:D

That is so funny :rotfl: !

PS Work ? In my spare time I am an 'environmental multi-tasker' :rotfl:

[don1reed]

Before I retired, I'd run TCx1 in orig SH(1). I'd leave the pc on 24/7. My trick was before leaving for work I'd submerge, (50 to 100ft.). When I came home 8 hrs later, I'd pop up to the surface to recharge etc...once I got the timing down, i.e., day-submerge, night-surface, it wasn't too bad...might give it a go again with gwx.

edit: btw: I guess you could also use verbal with gamecommander and the baby monitor while in the garage or backyard...hmmm.

[codmander]

daytime is tougher no doubt with aircraft you have to be quite awake no matter what tc you run nights however can be a bit more relaxing at 1x even if a ship is spoted you ussally have plenty of time to react at least during happy time:arrgh!:

been 2 days my time havnt seen a bloody thing AN41 heading NW threw the gap north of scapa

ps dont forget to save everytime you sit down:)

[IceGrog]

It took me a day or so just to convince myself you guys were really talking about playing this in real time. Now I know you guys are a little off center, maybe even close to being crazy. Now I’m even a little ticked off about this because now after reading all your posts on this subject, I guess I’m going to have to try one mission in real time!
It’s got to be one with somewhat close proximity to the action, any suggestions on starting point, both location & time?

[_Seth_]

edit: btw: I guess you could also use verbal with gamecommander and the baby monitor while in the garage or backyard...hmmm.
:o:o :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Then your neighbour comes over, and you go "AAALAAAAAAARMMMMMM"!!!

[les green01]

work is that what i do every weekday when im doing outside plumbing and waterlines in new houses sorry couldn't resist

[codmander]

Start from the begining of a new mod is a great time to start a 1x patrol since you seem unready to try the real sh3;) tc is for gamers 1x is for captains

if i where you i would just change your --enemy detected-to 1x- tc in your main folder to see if you like playin at 1x for starters:doh:


AIRCRAFT keepin me sumerged all day:( sun setting soon tho no sound contacs stuck in grid AN41

[The Munster]

Got 4 full days off from multi-tasking so have to try the x1 thing.
Must get a baby monitor [off E-Bay ?!] in the New Year especially with the size of House I am in :D

[Jimbuna]

Why not get a motion senser so you can get advance warning of the missus approaching you to tell you spme madman is on the tv shouting "AAALLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRMMMM!!!!" :up:

[codmander]

MAN!! ---I really am beginning to feel a u boat captains frustration AND ITS 1939:o
being pushed down by aircraft twice today and not seeing any targets for 3 days((my time)) I feel sorry for the next ship i bump into there will be no lifeboat survivors :arrgh!:

[The Munster]

Why not get a motion senser so you can get advance warning of the missus approaching you to tell you spme madman is on the tv shouting "AAALLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRMMMM!!!!" :up:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[dean_acheson]

wow. i would love to do this, but it just isn't really possible for me to do....

wish this game was around when i was in grad school...

[codmander]

u 45-Finnaly a brit fishing trawler- an14- 2330 hours made haste with the deck gun before a radio message was sent ((we hope)) 2 survivors in the water with life jackets we quickly machine gunned:shifty: payback for those aircraft earlier:arrgh!:

[nvdrifter]

An entire patrol at 1x? Some players here really do have too much time on their hands! :o

[FongFongFong]

An entire patrol at 1x? Some players here really do have too much time on their hands! :o:rotfl: what would 100000% realism be without it

[codmander]

:) 1x ----fricken ROCKS!!! Once you get use to it!! I also had my doubts but after a bit its just plain ol awesome not to mention some of the best things like cant tell friendly ships from nuetral or enemy weather it has a gun or even if its a warship totally awesome of course 100% realism is a must no external view-manual tdc ((which is easy once you get use to that 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ noobish to 1024 threw the game:doh:

sh4 at 1x----well maybe not lol---------------well thats a diffrent ocean---:)

gotta go!!----i got the watch--- dont trust wo Hans that bearded lady fallen asleep ON DUTY --------------- and fritz MY BEST WO is sleepin

[The Munster]

Don't put Bernard on Watch even at x1 or your asking for trouble :rotfl:

[les green01]

and watch your dog eithier they fire all the torps off or they crash dive you into the mud or in my case this morn the dog run into a ship and then crash dive into the mud:rotfl:

[codmander]

A nice fat merchant overnight 7000 tonner 2 torps blew her into pieces :yep: nygm mod thought i would need more:hmm: guess i hit the right spot 4 ships on 4 torps so far
deck gun crew will be getting medals;)
actully all crew is doing great cept for 1 of my WO I wont mention names but he may be staying out here --when we return to port:arrgh!:

[codmander]

1X
U45
2nd flotilla
left sept 1 09:58-Wilhelmslaven


great 1x patrol day

Sept.5 01:54
Large merchant AN14

Sept.5 07:26
Large merchant AN14

Sept.5 11:26
Small Coastal Vessal AN13



3 Air sightings heard some machine bullents hittin water 2 dc

NO DAMAGE heading on a southerly course :cool:


no sound contacs sumeraged till dark

[codmander]

WOW!! you gotta try 1x your missing loads!! pushed down by air AN13 figured i would stay under till dark--SOUND CONTAC -moving away- fat merchant bearing 270 in that dam shallower water --well i feel its a trap-- but my job is to sink enemy shipping surface ahead flank- pinging the bottom so much((i could of recorded a song)) 100 m 90 m 80m 70m 5000 m till target ((ACCORDING TO MY DECK GUN))18 rounds left AIRCRAFT SPOTTED good grief :shifty: p depth and maintain flank (figuring its the same airplane i saw an hour ago comng back for one last scraf than have to refuel after 10 min i surface no sign of aircraft;) 3 hasty fish fired ((nygm)) only takes 2 third never hit((first actully)) turn 180 lets get the hell outta here 9 miles to safer water --SHIP SPOTTED NOOO!! PING 80M WELL better than 60 ---TO BE CONTINED:sunny:

[Nippelspanner]

I tried to play with 1x TC two times... but I´ve lost patience, because ALT+TAB sometimes kill my SH3, so I cant use my pc, except for running SH3...

I will try it again if I have a second PC/Laptop one day...

[Hylander_1314]

Playing at 1x, is like fishing. Some days are good, some aren't, and some are downright nerve-racking.

[geezerjo09]

Isn't playing at 1x like ... like ..... like playing a life? Well i guess that's okay if you don't have one, but assuming all of you guys do have one, why would you want to do that? I hate computers, they are time-eaters. I know. What the hell am i doing here? Can't help it, it's addictive. At least I try to minimize the impacts. I've taken many drugs in my life, and in a sick kind of way computers have the same effect as them. Mind-numbing. That's what they both do.

[Corsair]

do you people have jobs?

Please write j*bs, dirty words are not allowed on this forum...:lol:

[codmander]

hmm some peeps just dont get it - 1,2,3 hours all day whatever 1x or 1024x seems to me your missing over half the SIM SOUND CONTACS FOR ONE YOU WILL NOT PICK UP zzzzzippping at 1024-----------your loss---- it pays to be a fisherman/landlord hey fishing stinks but the rent is goood:smug:

[codmander]

this post should of said for 1x players only corsair knows 1x rocks 3 torps left homeward leg an13 not gonna reach my patrol zone of --be31 been good hunting here yesterday and last night 3 fattys and some smaller stuff just as well I didnt keep a proper log but its been at least 5 days my time:p

[codmander]

oops dang keyboards well merry chritmas to everyone


should be back in wilhelnslaven in 70 hours or so +/- any ships i have to chase or air i have to duck

think the channel next patrol;)

[Nippelspanner]

*PlayingAdmin*
Pls use the Edit function next time...
*StopPlayingAdmin*

Merry Christmas to all. Gute Jagd und fette Beute! :up:

[robj250]

Even though I can only spend so much time playng GWX (used to be TGW) I run at 1x a lot of times when I have to lay down because of symptoms. The computer room is right next to my resting room, so I can hear what is going on and can usually reach my computer in time to react to the situation. It's not the quick (well not most of the time) that is against my health, but rather the excitment of the game. My ole heart pumps, and the oxygen doesn't get there fast enough, then I'm into deep trouble. That's why I have to be careful when I watch hockey, especially if it is my favourite team.

I too just sat with the bridge on the screen and enjoy the scenery. So 1x does not bother me 1 bit.

Rob

[codmander]

:cool: cool robj I think you miss alot tc'in all over the place sound contacs mostly

and i also think aircraft seem to spawn more at 1x ((thats not excatly good tho...))):shifty:


52 hours to port :) 1 stern torp left 28ktons an13/14 where hot never made my patrol zone BE31 thank god:)

[dinadan122]

When you 1x do you 1x from port to "unfriendly" areas. i like to 1x in hostile areas but i 1024 in areas that i know i will never see action.

[codmander]

MY FIRST 1X PATROL---whew Well cappys :D I am finnally on a heading homeward . Grid AN41- Flank speed -southeast course -trying to make some distance from those dam aircraft overnight ! By morning We should be in friendly waters! We scored some great tonnage 28.4k tons!! Did suffer some damage from aircraft..BUT noone was hurt..HOT FOOD-HOT WOMEN-AND A HOT BATH AWAIT :up: We should see port in 39 hours !

My First Officers asks what are you doing when you get back--I respond going on my second 1x patrol:up:

[SubConscious]

I'd love to be able to play at 1x. The problem is that I get maybe 2-3 hours of game time per week. So a three week patrol would take me over three years to complete.

[Jimbuna]

Not knocking the x1 player...but two questions spring to mind:
1) How do you find the time ? :hmm:
2)How long must it take to cimplete a career if you survive to the end of the war ? :hmm:

[codmander]

http://home.comcast.net/~codmander It pays to be a landlord/self employed charter/commercail fisherman/ even if theres no charters my hand is out at the end of the month:yep: but probly will do somthing in the spring :hmm: on the cape?? Im your boy for some offshore action

My first 1x patrol took 7 days game time not sure how many days my time shut it down at bedtime for 8 hours or so per day so do the math


IT'S probly close to 1 carreer using tc = 1 patrol at 1x

[LeafsFan]

Sure you can have your thread, I can't play that way though.

HB

[AVGWarhawk]

I was thinking about the having to get up and leaving the computer...perhaps a wireless keyboard is in order. Say your in the crapper and hear aircraft you can hit the C key whilst you taking a dump!!!


Anyway, GWX has in a way forced me to play 1X in some situations. Currently I'm shadowing a convoy and I do not want to TC into night time for a night time attack. I'm afraid I might lose the merchants. Therefore I'm playing 1x for the darkness to fall and make a surface attack!

[dinadan122]

when you play 1x at least when i do you dont sit at your computer the whole time ,i watch my kids make dinner clean house ext untill something happens if nothing else to do i pull a watch shift and check hydrohpones change shifts makeing a scheduel for your crew helps and when to submerge/surface and check hydrophones.1x is great for me atm b/c im on medical leave and im also doing some school stuff so i can play a game and do what i need to all at the same time , multitask ftw! i also speed throught friedly areas as nothing will happen here.

[Sailor Steve]

If I'm not going to be in front of the computer for the entire voyage I don't see what the point of 1x is. Playing with the kids while the computer runs is hardly more realistic than using a little time compression.

[codmander]

I look at it like I am the captain and the house is the u boat with the pc being the watch crew:rock:

[VipertheSniper]

http://home.comcast.net/~codmander It pays to be a landlord/self employed charter/commercail fisherman/ even if theres no charters my hand is out at the end of the month:yep: but probly will do somthing in the spring :hmm: on the cape?? Im your boy for some offshore action

My first 1x patrol took 7 days game time not sure how many days my time shut it down at bedtime for 8 hours or so per day so do the math


IT'S probly close to 1 carreer using tc = 1 patrol at 1x

1 carreer using TC = 1 patrol at 1x???

When playing dead is dead maybe, or starting late in the war, but starting at 1939, I think it's more like 4 or 5 patrols at 1x. Atleast I wasn't able to play a carreer from the start in 9 days...

[codmander]

just finishing my first 1x sept 1939 patrol so you probly would know better than I.. took at least 10 days for me to to get where i am now ((my time))with another 26 hours to wilhelmslaven but I am in friendly waters so pc can stay on while i hit the bunk:smug: What I do know is 1X is a totally diffrent game! And I plan to keep it that way:sunny:


Must have 3 fans cooling
1 for cpu
1 for intake
1 for exit((cyclone))
you can keep track of your core temps using --everst home software

[Kresge]

I know the feeling at 1x and have been enjoying it whilst I am unemployed (my free preview of being a stay-at-home dad). I still use a bit of tc, usually up to 64x in dead zones to keep up the pace since I play other games and have been spending time cooking and on some home refinishing projects (can't run out to hit the Big C when you are painting!).

Codmander, have you thought about a patrol blog? I've been having a blast writing mine as I cruise around the Atlantic. I find that it takes the edge off of being home alone and adds to the immersion. Heck, you could do hourly updates!

[codmander]

I know the feeling at 1x and have been enjoying it whilst I am unemployed (my free preview of being a stay-at-home dad). I still use a bit of tc, usually up to 64x in dead zones to keep up the pace since I play other games and have been spending time cooking and on some home refinishing projects (can't run out to hit the Big C when you are painting!).

Codmander, have you thought about a patrol blog? I've been having a blast writing mine as I cruise around the Atlantic. I find that it takes the edge off of being home alone and adds to the immersion. Heck, you could do hourly updates!


Mr MOM ;)
BLOG? heard of them but no I dont have a proper log yet. Kresge I hope your sending your wife out to work? Mine does double shifts lol:arrgh!: 16 hours from wilhelmshaven the Crew can see some birds and the hint of land on the southerly breeze. no tc here at all and this is the hardest part where I can see being tempted to use it . But I am too close now once In port after the partys I will work on a logbook before my next patrol


If i am away from my pc for any length of time i just sumerge at 30 meters at slow speed till I get back


nice read Kresge yea somthin like that would be nice

[Generis71]

I tried doing a patrol/career not using tc.. but I couldn't do it. Had to use tc to help it along. I thought I was a hardcore sub-simmer.. but I was no where near :)

I didn't think anyone would have the patience to play without tc.. but I have to salute you guys for getting the best out of a game. If you can call it a game anymore.

My faith in being a true simmer is restored:up: I've given myself the task of learning the TDC and manual contact tracking etc... so I'll have time to practice while I'm trucking along. And you know the funny thing is I've never thought of Alt-Tabbing and surfing the net while playing. :doh:

I think there should be a 1x thread.. sounds like there is a Club 1X growing here ;)

[Iron Budokan]

Should there be a 1x thread? Yup, I think so, mate. It's a completely different game and less arcadish on 1x. I've toyed with 1x patrols before but three days ago I started my first one just to see what it's like and so far I'm loving it, especially with the GWX mod.

My days are nights for my sailors. That way I can monitor them as they diesel around on the surface and do a hydrophone check a noon my time (midnight theirs). At night when I go to bed I put them down deep and let them run.

I realize I'm not the first Kaluen to do this. I'm just saying I'm doing it for the first time and so far am LOVING it.

But, yeah, you have to be kinda goofy in the head to play 1x....I agree with that part! :lol:

[Iron Budokan]

A few more thoughts on 1x:

One thing for sure you gotta run the game in the background. I don't know anyone who plays 1x and sits there in front of the monitor 24/7. (And if you do you need to be insitutionalized.)

OTOH, it's not that hard playing 1x and it really gets you to thinking when you pick up a contact and start following it. You pay more attention and think through the problem more than "I'll run a ahead a bit and cap him as he sails by." You pay attention to everything on 1x: weather, convoy routes, bases, planes, etc. I find it very cool and very very nerve wracking.

Someone mentioned it's not realistic to play with the kids while running 1x. Well, yeah. But then again if I do get killed in game I don't take a .38 and spatter my medulla oblongata all over the wallpaper like a grisly Rorschach Test, either. Just for realism.

There was a Kaluen on these forums I believe (I wish I could remember his name so as to credit him) who said something along the lines of "TC is for gamers, 1x is for captains."

And the more I play 1x the more I kind of think he might be right.

I dunno if I'll stick with 1x forever. But I am loving it now. Just me, I guess.

[Sailor Steve]

And if you pick up a contact just as you're leaving for work?

I still don't get it; if you're not in front of the monitor 24/7 then 1x is no more realistic than TCing to catch up time lost when the computer was off.

[codmander]

A few more thoughts on 1x:

One thing for sure you gotta run the game in the background. I don't know anyone who plays 1x and sits there in front of the monitor 24/7. (And if you do you need to be insitutionalized.)

OTOH, it's not that hard playing 1x and it really gets you to thinking when you pick up a contact and start following it. You pay more attention and think through the problem more than "I'll run a ahead a bit and cap him as he sails by." You pay attention to everything on 1x: weather, convoy routes, bases, planes, etc. I find it very cool and very very nerve wracking.

Someone mentioned it's not realistic to play with the kids while running 1x. Well, yeah. But then again if I do get killed in game I don't take a .38 and spatter my medulla oblongata all over the wallpaper like a grisly Rorschach Test, either. Just for realism.

There was a Kaluen on these forums I believe (I wish I could remember his name so as to credit him) who said something along the lines of "TC is for gamers, 1x is for captains."

And the more I play 1x the more I kind of think he might be right.

I dunno if I'll stick with 1x forever. But I am loving it now. Just me, I guess.





WELCOME TO THE REAL SILENT HUNTER 3:up: I dont know seems when theres nothin happening and your on/in an area thats dull I find the game relaxing I 'll sit for an hour on watch , than come here type somthin, than watch tv or do whatever -but when in waters not so friendly you really need to be on it 10 times as many aircraft spotted(((may not all attack but WO see's em sound contac 10 fold more which means more action-------lets put it like this you miss too much tc'in -even convoys---NOOBISH-- Watching BLACK DOT SOME LINES AND A SQUARES IN THE MAP ROOM MIGHT AS WELL PLAY PONG--:oops: --to use tc it should be banned from the game:arrgh!:

PS just because you play 1x does not mean sitting in front of your pc 24/7 ((allthough I have been latly - sorry to say this wont last:()) so you went ten miles save n quit and pick it back up 2 days later or tc cross an ocean missin ships planes and who knows what else
1x mods last longer also--;)



I got the watch see ya later u45 --out

[Sailor Steve]

to use tc it should be banned from the game:arrgh!:
Watching TV is realistic for a u-boat patrol?

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Attention all 1x Subsimmers...

I've bought a baby monitor so I can go throughout the rest of my sub (house) and take care of day to day things like cleaning and doing the dishes.

IT WORKS PERFECTLY!!! If my crew spots something... I come dashing in and take care of business.

(Just hide it when friends come over... They WILL NOT understand.)

You can get a lot of reading in as well.

When all of the GWX modding stops... and we go on to other things... You will find me somewhere on a 1x TC patrol... playing DiD at 100% realism as allowed by the game.

Though I do allow for such things as showers and the like. Also... Real depth charges are not allowed in the house.

Yes I am barking mad. Deal with it.:|\\

[codmander]

Attention all 1x Subsimmers...

I've bought a baby monitor so I can go throughout the rest of my sub (house) and take care of day to day things like cleaning and doing the dishes.

IT WORKS PERFECTLY!!! If my crew spots something... I come dashing in and take care of business.

(Just hide it when friends come over... They WILL NOT understand.)

You can get a lot of reading in as well.

When all of the GWX modding stops... and we go on to other things... You will find me somewhere on a 1x TC patrol... playing DiD at 100% realism as allowed by the game.

Though I do allow for such things as showers and the like. Also... Real depth charges are not allowed in the house.

Yes I am barking mad. Deal with it.:|\\



LOL you are the man!!! 1x rocks im getting near the english channel should be there tommorrow ((my time))


HMM:hmm: my big screen in the living room has P.I.P feature picture in piture hmm :hmm: wires everywhere cursing n swearin at an air attack at the same time the wife is watchin her soap operas--well maybe not:dead:

[Iron Budokan]

No, watching TV is not realistic. But then again neither is sitting in an air conditioned room drinking soda and eating french fries while you chat with your girlfriend on the phone with SH3 zippiing along at 1024x, LOL.

1x gives a whole new dimension to the game, I think is what a lot of us are saying. And it really does. I'm 50km NE of Hartlepool. I got a DD sound contact to the SE, a long ways off. I came up to recharge and my crew spotted what looked like a rowboat off to the W. In the old days I would have machinegunned said rowboat running the risk of having it radio the DD. In 1X? I stealthily snuck off to the NW into the dark. I wasn't about to call down a DD just for taking out what looked like a fancy rowboat of 110 tons. I'll wait for better game, thank you.

Now that's immersion. Or at least it is to me. And that's what I like.

I still maintain I may not stay with 1x forever. But the days of me warping around the Atlantic missing tons of contacts are OVER. Again, just me.

And of course you can save and come back later if need be. (Would that the real U-boat commanders had this option.)

[Iron Budokan]

My eight year old also plays SH3. (I introduced him to it. Me, the perfect Dad!) He knows his way around a U-boat, let me tell you. I sometimes have him come up to my office and take her down to 25 meters and check for sound contacts. While there he plays the music on the gramaphone and switches guys out to rest and write letters home to galfriends while the next watch goes on duty. After an hour he brings her back up and puts her back on course using the diesels.

He's a big help. I'm gonna miss him when he goes back to school!! :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

My eight year old also plays SH3. (I introduced him to it. Me, the perfect Dad!) He knows his way around a U-boat, let me tell you. I sometimes have him come up to my office and take her down to 25 meters and check for sound contacts. While there he plays the music on the gramaphone and switches guys out to rest and write letters home to galfriends while the next watch goes on duty. After an hour he brings her back up and puts her back on course using the diesels.

He's a big help. I'm gonna miss him when he goes back to school!! :rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl: AWESOME :arrgh!:

[Sailor Steve]

No, watching TV is not realistic. But then again neither is sitting in an air conditioned room drinking soda and eating french fries while you chat with your girlfriend on the phone with SH3 zippiing along at 1024x, LOL.

1x gives a whole new dimension to the game, I think is what a lot of us are saying.
No, TC isn't realistic either, but I've never claimed it is. I'm arguing with people like Codmander insulting the rest of us:
WELCOME TO THE REAL SILENT HUNTER 3:up:
to use tc it should be banned from the game

Also I have a question: If i am away from my pc for any length of time i just sumerge at 30 meters at slow speed till I get back
If you're gone all day and miss a convoy, how is that better than missing one at high TC?

I'm not knocking playing at 1x; I just take exception to people who knock those who don't.

[Corsair]

That's what's great about this sim : with all the mods around and the different ways to play it, each one can find what he likes and no way of playing is better than others, as long as the player is satisfied with what he does (even if other players think the guy is nuts...)
There was recently a nice article on "hardcore flight simmers" at Sim HQ, worth reading.

[Iron Budokan]

I agree people shouldn't be knocking other people who use TC or vice versa. To each his own, that's my motto.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Sailor Steve has a really good point.

Personally I love 1x TC... for the sake of "realism."

HOWEVER, practically speaking... it isn't very "realistic" when you have a real life to live.

Leaving your PC running also causes wear and tear... that many cannot afford to fix... I am often in that boat.

Computer parts are like light-bulbs... they wear out. If my processor gave out today... I'd be down for at least a month.

No one should knock people who use TC.

Honestly, the worst thing about TC is the problems the SH3 engine causes in respect to lack of detection... The computational lag versus detection problem is roughly doubled with each level of TC...

... but until we all have time for nothing but playing SH3... and/or exorbitantly expensive super-PC's...

Ya do what you can.

1x TC does change everything in a sort of good way though. I think everyone should try it at least once... just to experience the feeling... even if it is a short range coastal Type II Duck out of Kiel in 1939. (Doing exactly that in GWX can be breathtaking... our guys built a full, living, breathing world that is indescribeable... I'm just as much a tourist in this respect as anyone else... because the campaign team did this work with little input from me.)

Whatever mod you use... it does really change everything. It gives you a sense of distance and isolation that you just don't get using TC.

Yes it is time intensive in a way... but ya gotta try it at least once... and for the hours that nothing is happening... you can be productive around the house. (This is why I bought the baby monitor!)

I want to do a reeeallly long trip in a type IX eventually... maybe sail to Penang the hard way... or sail in Operation Drumbeat...

Decisions decisions! :doh:

[Iron Budokan]

Whatever mod you use... it does really change everything. It gives you a sense of distance and isolation that you just don't get using TC.

:doh:

Man, you're not kidding. Running at 1x along a convoy route at midnight while the moon is flying behind scudding clouds....you really get that sense of isolation. I like that a lot.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Whatever mod you use... it does really change everything. It gives you a sense of distance and isolation that you just don't get using TC.

:doh:

Man, you're not kidding. Running at 1x along a convoy route at midnight while the moon is flying behind scudding clouds....you really get that sense of isolation. I like that a lot.

Stray thoughts:

1) Short periods of water sounds make one want to run to the bathroom.

2) Long Bridge watches in fair weather... SLEEEEEPY TIME... HARD TO STAY AWAKE!!! :o

3) Rechargeable baby monitor- $30... 1x TC voyage experience at least once- PRICELESS!!! :rock:

[Kresge]

Tc or no TC: reminds me of when some people were up in arms during the development of SHIII because they didn't want anyone to be able to save games just because they thought it was wrong. :rotfl:

Really, I think most of the people on here talking about no TC being the 'real' SHIII are just joking, but I do get annoyed at all the threads berating 'vanilla' SHIII. The only mod I use is to correct eh crew fatigue to a normal level and I have no qualms about this game. Of course, I have a background playing things like Silent Service and SHI, so I'm easy to please.

I personally like to man the bridge under 1x for a while to immerse myself in the sights and sounds, then I leave it running while I read something naval-related (not belly buttons). But when i'm running under the surface during the day I crank up the TC to 64x to pass some time; otherwise I would still be on my first patrol!

[Iron Budokan]

HAW! I didn't know there were people who didn't even want to save the game...oh, well, it just goes to show you it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.

Naturally, I played vanilla when it first came out, but soon I caught on (hey, even a blind hog can dig up an acorn every now and then) to the fact there was a sub community out there doing round the clock work to make a good game great...and I never went back to vanilla.

I don't have anything against vanilla SH3, but I must admit NYGM or GWX makes the 1x a lot more enjoyable to play....for me anyway. Eh, to each his own. So far I'm liking 1x but, yeah, the "I play more realistic than you" silliness is well, silly.

Once again...my two yen.

[don1reed]

For those who like to keep a log and/or diary, x1 gives one plenty of time to get that job done without having to place the sim on pause...

...but, thinking on this dilemma and reading and re-reading some of the replies--I've come to the conclusion that everyone who plays, plays the sim at x1 everytime a combat situation presents itself, don't we? ...and realism while playing a game--is fantacy. (My George Carlin moment)

Realism is having to save a game 'cuz the wife wants to go shopping. :D

Best to all in this new year,

[Mooncatt]

well i did my first patrol in 1x today and it took forever:down: think im gonna stick to tc but i wondered if anyone can suggest a tc scale so that i dont miss too much along the way??

[Sailor Steve]

Yes indeed, there was a thread from some people advocating the game be released without the possibility of saving at all while on patrol. I personally have the problem of cruising around for hours with nothing happening, and just when I finally decide to go to bed, or have to get ready for work, sure enough..."Convoy sighted, Captain!":rotfl: :dead:

Because of the "missing aircraft" problem and because I like to look around myself sometimes, I think when I can play again I'm going to try to limit myself to 128x, just to see what happens.

[IceGrog]

i've started my first 1x in GWX,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is a great sunny day and i've been playing the music which i didn't in my other careers.....that in itself is great

[Iron Budokan]

well i did my first patrol in 1x today and it took forever:down: think im gonna stick to tc but i wondered if anyone can suggest a tc scale so that i dont miss too much along the way??

Try 64x for crowded areas and 256x for long Atlantic crossings.

[Iron Budokan]

...but, thinking on this dilemma and reading and re-reading some of the replies--I've come to the conclusion that everyone who plays, plays the sim at x1 everytime a combat situation presents itself, don't we?



I like a challenge. When I come across a destroyer that's when I bump the TC up to 256X :rotfl:

[don1reed]

Iron B you've nailed it!:rotfl:

Sailor Steve did too, re x128. A lot of the guys over at Pacific Thunder, who still play the orig SH, won't take the tc faster than x128...a good all around speed.

Immersion is what I believe everyone is trying to accomplish rather than realism. Its sort of like those "survivor" prgms on tv...heck, when I hear of ppl talking about those type of prgms, I ask 'em, "You like survivor? Well, try raising your right hand, and getting fitted for a pair of combat boots then spend a tour in the ME...see if you like survivor then." Ya think I sound too harsh? :yep:

We'll do anything to get the adrenolin pumpin'. :up:

[Iron Budokan]

I agree a lot of people (even I do) tend to use the word "realism" when what they mean is "immersion". I also think 128x is a good all around TC, too, especially for long voyages across the Atlantic. Helps with the realism...uh, I mean the immersion factor.

[Morts]

mmm, im currently on a x1 patrol to england from kiel
57 hours to go

even though i dont have 1TC as my max, i cant let my self press it up

*note* this is my first x1 patrol

[Iron Budokan]

Awesome, keep us apprised of how it goes and what the experience is like for you. I for one would like to see this thread continue. There are a lot more 1x Kaleuns out there than we may think. Or so I suspect....

Now back to my VIIB moving outbound through the canal at 1x... :rock:

[Morts]

mm, im currently at grid AO74, 09:58 am october the 24th
left kiell at 07:26 october the 24th
only 2 friendly DDs sighted