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SUBMAN1
12-05-06, 04:36 PM
More eye popping news.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l306/palmerbeer/cgr.jpg

Translation:

Undocumented immigrants learn how to defend yourself against the white people. Free firearms training and ammunition at Casa Grande Range the 30th of December 2006. Bring the kids for a free breakfast.

Anyone care to translate that page in whole?

-S

sonar732
12-05-06, 05:17 PM
It's going to be interesting if a Marine gets a hold of that flyer!:nope::nope:

SUBMAN1
12-05-06, 05:25 PM
It's going to be interesting if a Marine gets a hold of that flyer!:nope::nope:

I have already heard that some people are going to crash this party.

Marcantilan
12-05-06, 06:04 PM
The man who wrote that sure doesn´t speak spanish.

But maybe is a russian inmigrant or something :o

TteFAboB
12-05-06, 06:58 PM
Sounds weird indeed.

What the hell does "familias de la atención" means? Illegal aliens? Entrenamiento de "la" and "para"? Why not just entrenamiento de audodefensa? Are there two audodefensas then, one for undocumented immigrants and another for documented immigrants? "Los" armas de fuego, hello?! Kids, don't drop out of school. "Aprender protegerse contra la gente blanca", wrong verb? How about "Aprende" or "Aprendes a" or even "Aprendete"? And we really need to find a better word for kids. What does "cabritos" make of the mothers?

Anyway, no match for the NRA, big bad black soldiers, red indians and etc. We can even call in the Japanese families to show up in Samurai gear.

Some hypothesis for the Spanish grammatical errors:

1. There are Americans involved - dumb white college kids who are still on Basic Spanish.

2. They printed it back in Mexico and trusted the job to an illiterate idiot, forgetting to leave him the precise text in writing.

3. Illegal immigrants are illiterate and can hardly read the leaflet anyway, thus a poorly written text sounds more familiar and comfortable to read.

4. This was made by some Mexican immigrant gang banger who failed and/or dropped out of school without learning to write.

What's that logo at the bottom anyway? Must be either gang stuff or from some political group.

SUBMAN1
12-05-06, 07:03 PM
Sounds weird indeed.

What the hell does "familias de la atención" means? Illegal aliens? Entrenamiento de "la" and "para"? Why not just entrenamiento de audodefensa? Are there two audodefensas then, one for undocumented immigrants and another for documented immigrants? "Los" armas de fuego, hello?! Kids, don't drop out of school. "Aprender protegerse contra la gente blanca", wrong verb? How about "Aprende" or "Aprendes a" or even "Aprendete"? And we really need to find a better word for kids. What does "cabritos" make of the mothers?

Anyway, no match for the NRA, big bad black soldiers, red indians and etc. We can even call in the Japanese families to show up in Samurai gear.

Some hypothesis for the Spanish grammatical errors:

1. There are Americans involved - dumb white college kids who are still on Basic Spanish.

2. They printed it back in Mexico and trusted the job to an illiterate idiot, forgetting to leave him the precise text in writing.

3. Illegal immigrants are illiterate and can hardly read the leaflet anyway, thus a poorly written text sounds more familiar and comfortable to read.

4. This was made by some Mexican immigrant gang banger who failed and/or dropped out of school without learning to write.

What's that logo at the bottom anyway? Must be either gang stuff or from some political group.

I opt for #3 since that is the most likely scenario.

-S

Enigma
12-05-06, 07:50 PM
This is good actually. either its real, and the people that beleive in this will show upm or its not, and the people that beleive it is will show up. Throw in a bunch of angry people who want to show up and gun down illegal immigrants, and they can all shoot the **** out of each other for a few hours. Its like Darwin couldnt have set it uop better himself.

VON_CAPO
12-06-06, 07:30 AM
The man who wrote that sure doesn´t speak spanish.
I agree, it is obvious that it was written by a English spoken person. :p
And it was translated to Spanish in a wrong way. :D:D:D

It is just a cheap hate trick. :|\\

SkvyWvr
12-06-06, 07:37 AM
The man who wrote that sure doesn´t speak spanish.

But maybe is a russian inmigrant or something :o

I was thinking the same thing.

SUBMAN1
12-06-06, 11:02 AM
The man who wrote that sure doesn´t speak spanish.
I agree, it is obvious that it was written by a English spoken person. :p
And it was translated to Spanish in a wrong way. :D:D:D

It is just a cheap hate trick. :|\\

Actually, my friend who lives down there says it is written for the illiterate. If they use proper Spanish, the illegals will not be able to read it since very few of them can read more than a few words anyway.

-S

AVGWarhawk
12-06-06, 11:13 AM
If this is infact true there will be some military outcry. How dare they defame what was done in WW2. Bunch of lazy louts.

SUBMAN1
12-06-06, 11:55 AM
More info:

The group contracted to do the training is MS-13. I guess they are well known down south, but I do not know who or what they are.

And, it has some sort of coupon for something called Mercado? What is mercado?

-S

Yahoshua
12-06-06, 06:19 PM
MS-13 is a well known group to me. They have VERY sophisticated training camps in Southern Mexico for their drug trade and smuggling across the border. It is also known that MS-13 does have the beginnings of an intelligence network, if it's not already established.

Read a little about them here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11240718/

http://www.altereddimensions.net/crime/MS13Gang.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

SmithN23
12-06-06, 08:25 PM
Maybe it is the immigration people setting this up, similar to what some police officers did. They sent letters to all of the people who owed fines and who were wanted. The letters told them that they had won a free boat, and the ones that showed up were arrested.

Sea Demon
12-06-06, 08:41 PM
It's going to be interesting if a Marine gets a hold of that flyer!:nope::nope:
I have already heard that some people are going to crash this party.

Hopefully INS :up:

Iceman
12-07-06, 01:59 AM
This is so retarded I can't even comment...The illegals I see working here in AZ are not so dumb to participate or even give something like this the time of day...people from Mexico are not intrested in this kind of BS they are too busy trying to find work for the day to take care of they're familes....why do you think they come to America?..a plot...no same reason anyone who wants to earn a living...to live.

Dumb.

I will show this to some my bro's here and have them translate exactly what this reads...dumb.

mookiemookie
12-07-06, 05:54 AM
Pretty shoddy grammar, but here's what I believe is the literal translation:

Atzlan Lives!

Attention families: Free self defense class for undocumented immigrants. Firearms and ammunition will be provided. Learn how to protect yourself against the white people. Casa Grande Range on Dec. 30, 2006. Bring your little ones for free breakfast.

Marcantilan
12-07-06, 12:42 PM
SUBMAN: "Mercado", literally, means "Market"

In my very humble opinion, the poorly written flyer was made in English and translated by babelfish.

Marcantilan
12-07-06, 12:46 PM
"Traer a tus cabritos para un desayuno libre"

Bring your young goats for an open breakfast :huh:

Not sense at all...

TteFAboB
12-07-06, 03:40 PM
Actually, I think I got it: they'll feed the goats some free lead! It's part of the target practice. :rotfl:

SUBMAN1
12-07-06, 05:34 PM
This is so retarded I can't even comment...The illegals I see working here in AZ are not so dumb to participate or even give something like this the time of day...people from Mexico are not intrested in this kind of BS they are too busy trying to find work for the day to take care of they're familes....why do you think they come to America?..a plot...no same reason anyone who wants to earn a living...to live.

Dumb.

I will show this to some my bro's here and have them translate exactly what this reads...dumb.

You are probably right that it is fake. Its got to be. The world is full of propoganda.

-S