View Full Version : Get out! And stay out! And quit coming back, idiot!
Sea Demon
12-04-06, 01:56 AM
I'm certainly not going to rip on you UK'ers. I think you are a bright bunch myself. :up: But these idiot Americans that think you will be more accepting and loving of them if they insult us in your countries, should be stripped of their U.S. citizenship and tossed into your nations forever. I'm sick of hollywood idiots like this. Screw em'. This moron thinks America sucks but won't leave it. This idiot keeps coming back. The only reason this imbecile is anything is because her mother was made a success in the USA. Sorry, I just had to post out of sheer frustration that I can't personally stop this twit from re-entering my country, and telling her off in the process. :stare:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/02/061202162419.xtnkgaet.html
Freedom of expression.:|\\
Kapitan_Phillips
12-04-06, 02:59 AM
No no no, you are NOT shovelling any more people into this country. The whole place has already gone to pot. :cry:
Sea Demon
12-04-06, 03:02 AM
Freedom of expression is fine. But how about living by your words. If you think the USA is a country of idiots, then don't come here to earn you money. Stay there. Especially if you feel that you have to insult the USA to make your point. I for example love the USA and would never live anywhere else. I've lived in Europe as a member of the U.S. military. I don't have any desire to live there permanently and am glad to be back home in the good ole' USA. But I don't feel that I have to insult Europeans on my way out. And I certainly wouldn't trash Europe if it was responsible for my success. In this regard I have no respect for this piece of trash.
TteFAboB
12-04-06, 05:10 AM
How intelligent, considering the English were the champions of capitalism and the people who actually founded and created America. Does she realize this could be perceived as an insult to all the English people who believed or moved to America?
But she got the part about work and money covered alright. Just call her older sister and neighbor US pop star Madonna. That woman knows how to re-invent herself and always return to the top. Is Madonna to be considered part of British culture then? Nothing to complain, you can gladly have both of them!
Let's see: her debut film (Shout) featured on the USA. Then there's Flesh and Bone, USA, Mrs. Parker and the Vicious circle, USA, Se7en, USA, do I see a pattern here?
Out of the 38 films (including Lateshow and SNL) listed on IMDB 35 were filmed or co-produced in the USA, 9 in the UK, 2 in France, 1 in Italy, 1 in Germany and 1 in Canada.
On her IMDB bio it is stated that "She broke her much publicized engagement to actor Brad Pitt (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000093/) in 1997 citing as the reason the fact that neither she nor Pitt felt that they could pursue their respective careers and at the same time maintain a happy marriage." Does that mean she broke her marriage because of work and money? No wonder she doesn't want to talk about it! The woman has unsolved existential issues with work and money.
From www.boxofficemojo.com (http://www.boxofficemojo.com) I see that "Shakespeare in Love (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=shakespeareinlove.htm)" raised $289,317,794 gross out of which $100,317,794 or 34.7% were earned in the USA, pretty much half the amount of the entire rest of the world.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=shakespeareinlove.htm
"Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346156/)" raised $57,846,375 gross out of which 65.3% or $37,762,677 in the USA. Same source as above. All following values are in gross.
"Austin Powers in Goldmember (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0295178/)" scored $296,633,907 with 71.9% or $213,307,889 in the USA. Same source.
"The Talented Mr. Ripley (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134119/)" $128,798,265 with $81,298,265 or 63.1% in the USA.
"Hook" $300,854,823 out of which $119,654,823 or 39.8% (more than half) in the USA alone.
"Shallow Hal" $141,069,860 with $70,839,203 or 50.2% from the USA.
And to end this, "Seven" earned $327,311,859 with $100,125,643 or 30.6% in the USA.
There's definitely a pattern here. With the numbers from these hit movies in hand, if it weren't for American capitalism and all American hard workers who care about money so much to make enough of it to pay to go to the movies and/or buy the DVD's we'd have a much poorer actress here bitching not from her 500,000 pounds flat in the UK but from her 5$ unemployed dirty shack down in New Orleans living off social security. That is, if Mom & Dad couldn't pull the strings and get her a job as janitor in one of the studios.
Now from wikipedia: "In an interview with The Guardian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian) [4] (http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,6737,1695582,00.html) on 27 January (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_27) 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), Paltrow admitted that she divided her career into those movies she did for love, and those "****e" films she did for money. The Royal Tenenbaums, Proof, and Sylvia fell into the former category, whilst View From the Top and Shallow Hal were in the latter. [5] (http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,6737,1695582,00.html)." Ah, we care so much about work and money that we're willing to work for money and not for love but don't you dare talking about it in the dinner! You can only talk about work and money to the... ENGLISH Guardian, in England!
More: "In May of 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005), Paltrow was announced as the new face of Estée Lauder's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Est%C3%A9e_Lauder_Inc.) Pleasures perfume." If you don't know:
The company began in 1946 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946), when Joseph Lauder (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Lauder&action=edit) and wife Estée Lauder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Est%C3%A9e_Lauder_%28person%29) began producing cosmetics in New York City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City), New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York). At first, they only had four products: super rich all purpose cream, creme pack, cleansing oil and skin lotion. Two years later, they established their first department store account with Saks Fifth Avenue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saks_Fifth_Avenue) in New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York).
Over the next fifteen years, they expanded the range and continued to sell their products in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). In 1960 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960), the company went international. Its first international account was in the London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London) department store Harrods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrods). The following year, it opened an office in Hong Kong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong).
In 1964 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964), they launched Aramis Inc., which produced fragrances and grooming products for men. In 1967 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967), Estée Lauder was rewarded for her efforts by being named one of ten Outstanding Women in Business in the United States by business and financial editors. This was followed by a Spirit of Achievement Award from Albert Einstein College of Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein_College_of_Medicine) at Yeshiva University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshiva_University) in 1968 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968). In that year, the company expanded again, opening Clinique Laboratories, Inc. Clinique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinique) was the first dermatologist guided, allergy tested, fragrance free cosmetic brand created by Estée Lauder.
Estée Lauder became the first women's cosmetic company to introduce a second line for men when, in 1976 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976), they began a separate line of skin supplies. In 1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981), the company achieved another breakthrough when their products became available in the Soviet Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union).
Estée Lauder now sells its products in department stores across the world, as well as having a chain of freestanding retail outlets. It employs over 20,000 people, and in 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003), its sales topped $5 billion. The company is still controlled by the Lauder family, which controls over 90% of voting shares, and Estée's grandson chairs the board of directors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_directors). In February 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004), the company's teen-oriented jane business was sold; in April 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), the professional-quality Stila (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stila) brand, which Estée Lauder purchased in 1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999), was sold.
The company has been known for its sometimes iconic spokesmodels, sometimes referred to simply as 'faces'. Past 'faces' for Estée Lauder include Karen Graham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Graham), Willow Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willow_Bay) and Paulina Porizkova (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulina_Porizkova). Currently, the public spokesmodels for Estée Lauder are Carolyn Murphy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Murphy), Liya Kebede (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liya_Kebede), Gwyneth Paltrow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwyneth_Paltrow) and Elizabeth Hurley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Hurley).
Fruit of American capitalism and alot of work.
Thus Gwyneth Paltrow will never adapt to the British anti-capitalist and highly cultured dinner tables and has no option but to vent the frustration of her state as an inferior being. If Paltrow considers herself to be an American, along with the rest of all Hollywood royalty trash, then what she says couldn't be more true: the worst of the worst scoundrels of Britain is more intelligent and civilized than a woman who spits on the plate she served herself so many times without a cry and without realizing there was a real 'bloody' world out there.
I haven't been to the UK in years, what a shame, but I'd like to invite our British friends to tell us afterall: what is it that you talk about at dinner that is so higher and civilized? Please share this big secret with us, afterall "Let not England forget her precedence of teaching nations how to live".
From the title of the topic, I though you meant Sir Big Juggs! :rotfl:
he he , your quickly huffed. :yep:
Konovalov
12-04-06, 10:20 AM
he he , your quickly huffed. :yep:
I was thinking likewise. Really, who cares what some actress says. I for one couldn't give two hoots about the Australian "feminist academic" Germaine Greer who calls London home for most of the year while heaping verbal vommit on Australians and our country. Not worth getting in a huff about. :zzz: :zzz:
XabbaRus
12-04-06, 11:58 AM
What a stupid cow. Can't stand her or her husband. She thinks we talk less about money and are less obsessed about work and money? No in the UK we just spend it, and most of it is someone else's.
Aghh I thought she hated the UK and made some horrible comments about not wanting her poor kid born in a UK hospital. I thought her and her prat of a husband and shut up for a bit.
Freedom of expression is fine. But how about living by your words. If you think the USA is a country of idiots, then don't come here to earn you money. Stay there. Especially if you feel that you have to insult the USA to make your point. I for example love the USA and would never live anywhere else. I've lived in Europe as a member of the U.S. military. I don't have any desire to live there permanently and am glad to be back home in the good ole' USA. But I don't feel that I have to insult Europeans on my way out. And I certainly wouldn't trash Europe if it was responsible for my success. In this regard I have no respect for this piece of trash.
Given the global corporate nature of most markets these days, especialy the entertainment media, such a suggestion would be not only meaningles but disingenuous. Given the number of American people who make a living in all the aspects of such industries in general, and the specific individuals work in particular. The inherent concept seeming to indicate that status and sucess buys silence from critical obsevation. Given that many people have achieved success in a world where many nations have aspects of their cultures weather social or political which people are equaly critical of to trivial or major degrees. Is the idea that people should only be critical on places which haven't contributed towared their overall staus etc. Perhaps a sliding scale based on sales figures or box office recipts.
Perhaps it might have been more palatable if the comments had come from an American personality.
bradclark1
12-04-06, 01:03 PM
I don't see where she's insulting. It's a fact that Americans are somewhat workaholics(?) and their world rotates around their jobs. All she's saying is that Brit's don't sit around and talk shop as often as Americans do and face it, when you are rich you can indulge in your little idiosyncrasies.
why waste 20mins to make a 1000 character reply about this?
you have no affiliation with this women, who cares what she says?
AVGWarhawk
12-04-06, 03:09 PM
She is dead on with her response. I'm an American and yes, that is all we talk about is money and work. We work all the time because big industry demands it or you are fired. If we are lucky we get two weeks off from work a year and usually these are not in a row.
As far as UK being more civilized.....I agree whole heartedly. There is more concentration of standard of etiquette in the UK. Here in America it is a free for all. There is no respect for the elderly, freedom, authority, tradition. This country is going to hell in a hand basket. Welcome to the melting pot of smut, debauchery, drug abuse, alcohol abuse and twisted sex offenders.
TteFAboB
12-04-06, 05:01 PM
This has completely escaped me, I must've been dazzled by her sophisticated and intelligent phrase: Gwyneth separated "American psychology" in good and bad parts. She said she doesn't fit in with the bad part. While that doesn't necessarily puts her automatically in the good part nor did she ever stated that she is, it is implied as such.
Considering that she fits into the good part that means all members of the good "American psychology" group are de facto British.
Sir Big Jugs
12-04-06, 05:15 PM
When I saw the title I thought you were referring to me...:roll:
Sea Demon
12-04-06, 06:41 PM
No Bigg Jugs. You crack me up too much. I don't want you gone. :up:
To bradclark. It's the fact she takes a broad swipe and says "the British are more intelligent and civilized" as a whole. And the idiot seems to think she knows what we talk about at our dinner table. Like we're just sitting there stuffing our faces and talking about how we can plot to hoard more money. As if that's the values of American families. Her comments are insulting. And not only that, the twit seems to like making a living here. She has a movie in pre-production right now. All made in the USA. I'm just saying, you don't like it.....LEAVE! You love the UK.....STAY THERE! Same with the Dixie Chicks who were in Canada recently and said something to the effect that it's refreshing to be amongst a more enlightened bunch or something to that effect. I don't remember the precise words. But my response is LEAVE! GET THE HELL OUT! QUIT COMING BACK TO THE USA! WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE! LIVE AMONGST YOUR ENLIGHTENED CANADIANS! STOP COMING BACK HERE, WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE AMONGST US STUPID AMERICANS! YOU DON"T HAVE TO STAY HERE! THERE ARE NO WALLS STOPPING YOU FROM EMIGRATING ELSEWHERE! SO GET OUT! QUIT TALKING AND START PACKING!
And while I won't put down other nations myself. I feel that I have to defend the honor of mine. Ain't it funny that despite us Americans being so backwards and stupid, we generally are at the top of most sectors of scientific research? We are completely at the top of appied military technologies. Students all over the world are trying to get into our universities? These hollywood dim-wits know nothing of what they speak.
Sea Demon
12-04-06, 06:42 PM
he he , your quickly huffed. :yep:
Darn right! :up: And I just want to see these morons put their money where their big mouths are.
Onkel Neal
12-04-06, 06:45 PM
She said having US pop star Madonna, 48, who married British film director Guy Ritchie six years ago, nearby was another advantage to living in London.
:rotfl:
Subwolf
12-04-06, 07:43 PM
When I saw the title I thought you were referring to me...:roll:
What on earth have you done in here since the entire community seems to be after your tail? Well maybe you like to discuss things the hard way, just like me. You just pick the topic, and we will get some heat in here on a cold winter day. (not too hot of course)
And Gizzmoe will get a couple of workouts for free, I don't think he minds that ;)
The Noob
12-04-06, 08:29 PM
When I saw the title I thought you were referring to me...:roll:
lolz0r i thought he would mean you as well. :rotfl::rotfl: :D
To bradclark. It's the fact she takes a broad swipe and says "the British are more intelligent and civilized" as a whole. And the idiot seems to think she knows what we talk about at our dinner table. Like we're just sitting there stuffing our faces and talking about how we can plot to hoard more money. As if that's the values of American families. Her comments are insulting. And not only that, the twit seems to like making a living here. She has a movie in pre-production right now. All made in the USA. I'm just saying, you don't like it.....LEAVE! You love the UK.....STAY THERE! Same with the Dixie Chicks who were in Canada recently and said something to the effect that it's refreshing to be amongst a more enlightened bunch or something to that effect. I don't remember the precise words. But my response is LEAVE! GET THE HELL OUT! QUIT COMING BACK TO THE USA! WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE! LIVE AMONGST YOUR ENLIGHTENED CANADIANS! STOP COMING BACK HERE, WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE AMONGST US STUPID AMERICANS! YOU DON"T HAVE TO STAY HERE! THERE ARE NO WALLS STOPPING YOU FROM EMIGRATING ELSEWHERE! SO GET OUT! QUIT TALKING AND START PACKING!
And while I won't put down other nations myself. I feel that I have to defend the honor of mine. Ain't it funny that despite us Americans being so backwards and stupid, we generally are at the top of most sectors of scientific research? We are completely at the top of applied military technologies. Students all over the world are trying to get into our universities? These hollywood dim-wits know nothing of what they speak.
It seems to me to be well within the rights of Paltrow and the Dixie Chicks to criticize the United States, in fact if people like that were unable to say such outlandish things I would be worried. Yes, they owe much of their success to the United States, and that's wonderful, they are American citizens living the American dream of being rich and prosperous, but that should not mean they cannot criticize their country of birth without being chased out with by a band of angry populace bearing pitchforks and torches. Yes, the way they speak of the US is hurtful and in very poor taste, so what? Blank it out, call them morons and prove them wrong by continuing to make America the greatest country in the world-just don't tell them to leave and run their birth certificate through a shredder on the way out, because that might be more un-American than anything those idiots could have said.:o
Yahoshua
12-04-06, 10:33 PM
She's just vying for the spotlight. ot really worthy of my attention but most certainly deserves a boot in the @$$ and out the door. Though I doubt that she'll actually get what she deserves.
Well, she says on CNN today that she didnt say it.
P.S-this is such a none story, it hilarious that anyone cares.
["I love the English lifestyle, it's not as capitalistic as America. People don't talk about work and money, they talk about interesting things at dinner."
Come and have dinner with me, topics as follow
Why am I paying so much tax.
PC Madness.
The police state.
ID Cards and the RFID.
My dreadful Government.The British are much more intelligent and civilised than the Americans
Hey, she just had a go at herself!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Bet you guys in America would never had made a dumb remark like that one.
Sailor Steve
12-05-06, 12:19 PM
I think the fact that she considers Madonna to be a "big sister" says more than anything else. But I agree with Bort: we believe in the right to say what you want. "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it". The oldest attribution of that phrase goes to Voltaire, but there is no evidence that even he said it. It doesn't matter; Thomas Jefferson believed in it, and that's good enough for me.
There are a lot of Bush/War in Iraq supporters who claim that to criticize is not only wrong but unpatriotic. Those same people didn't feel that way over Clinton's excursion into Kosovo.
My only complaint about the Dixie Chicks: not that they exercised the right to free speech, but that by doing it onstage they denied that same right to anyone in their audience who may have disagreed with them. No one was allowed to get up on the stage and argue.
Free speech aside, if Paltrow did indeed say those things (and there's now a claim that she didn't), I too think she's a twit. But that's just my free speech.
mr chris
12-05-06, 01:11 PM
From the title of the topic, I though you meant Sir Big Juggs! :rotfl:
Same here :rotfl: :rotfl:
Perilscope
12-05-06, 01:19 PM
...but that by doing it onstage they denied that same right to anyone in their audience who may have disagreed with them. No one was allowed to get up on the stage and argue.
But they can get up and leave the place... :D
Movie Quote from "Seven":
Brad Pitt: "What is in the box?"
Morgan Freeman: "Gwyneth".
How uncivilized...."a light saber is more elegant than a blaster"....uncivilized...lol...:rotfl: ..ugh..me caveman...me likes Austin Powers....Yea Baby!...lol...what a topic.:rock:
Kapitan_Phillips
12-05-06, 04:44 PM
Movie Quote from "Seven":
Brad Pitt: "What is in the box?"
Morgan Freeman: "Gwyneth".
No, its Solid Snake :P
http://www.gamecritics.com/feature/preview/mgs2add/screen13.jpg
SUBMAN1
12-05-06, 04:56 PM
Funny. She shows how 'unintelligent' she is by her very owns words on the subject.
-S
Tchocky
12-05-06, 07:38 PM
And while I won't put down other nations myself. I feel that I have to defend the honor of mine.
Um, why exactly? Just curious
My only complaint about the Dixie Chicks: not that they exercised the right to free speech, but that by doing it onstage they denied that same right to anyone in their audience who may have disagreed with them. No one was allowed to get up on the stage and argue.
Are you serious? So this form of expression, spoken word, isn't OK, but the rest of the evening's form of expression, country pop, isn't?
Or, is it that this segment had a political slant?
Why should someone in the public eye not speak their mind?
Sailor Steve
12-05-06, 07:50 PM
But they can get up and leave the place... :D
Can they get their money back, since it wasn't what they paid to see?
[Why should someone in the public eye not speak their mind?
If I go to a concert, am I paying my hard-earned money to hear a live version of their music, or to listen to their political views? Say what you want on The Tonight Show, but not on stage.
Tchocky
12-05-06, 08:04 PM
But they can get up and leave the place... :D Can they get their money back, since it wasn't what they paid to see?
[Why should someone in the public eye not speak their mind? If I go to a concert, am I paying my hard-earned money to hear a live version of their music, or to listen to their political views? Say what you want on The Tonight Show, but not on stage.
Do you not also go for the live music experience, the interplay and flow between the audience and act? I've been to some gigs where the said interplay resulted in head injuries. What you're referring to is a live album.
And you can hardly argue that anyone's right to free speech was denied on that night. Where does 90% of the recognition of the name "Dixie Chicks" come from? Every side had their say.
Watching all those losers exercise free speech by stomping on Dixie Chick CD cases was so unintentionally funny I cant stand it....
:rotfl:
Sailor Steve
12-05-06, 08:33 PM
Good points, Tchocky, and I will say here that I'm not trying to present myself as the arbiter of right and wrong on political speech; it's only my opinion.
But I still stand by it. I've never been famous, but I've played music all my life. I would never make a political speech during a gig, unless it was a dedicated political affair and everyone knew what they were getting.
Type941
12-06-06, 01:27 PM
Ah, please, not another 'star' telling me about her 'everyday' problems and how the poor thing 'deals' with them. :roll:
XabbaRus
12-06-06, 01:35 PM
Whether or not she was right to say it or not fact is she is, IMHO, annoying, as is her husband Chris "I'm so monumentally boring but consider myself so intelligent and important" Martin.
There I have exercised my right to say what I think of her and her husband.
Now I'd love for her to come here and rebuff my claim.
BTW I'd rather see people stomping on Cold Play albums. PPS what the hell of a name is Cold Play?
Tchocky
12-06-06, 03:09 PM
Whether or not she was right to say it or not fact is she is, IMHO, annoying,
hilarious
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