View Full Version : Future submarines could hit 100 knots
Onkel Neal
12-02-06, 09:44 AM
Now tell me that won;t make some exciting changes in submarine tactics! :o
Check the top item of the World Naval News (http://www.subsim.com/index.php).
Bill Nichols
12-02-06, 11:56 AM
Imagine the challenge to navigation... hitting a seamount at 100 kts would ruin your whole day :o
http://www.ssbn611.org/images/USS%20San%20Francisco/DSC00031.JPG
nightdagger
12-02-06, 01:36 PM
Hitting anything in anything at 100 knots would ruin your day anyway...
goldorak
12-02-06, 03:37 PM
Imagine the challenge to navigation... hitting a seamount at 100 kts would ruin your whole day :o
http://www.ssbn611.org/images/USS%20San%20Francisco/DSC00031.JPG
:eek: what did the submarine hit to sustain such damage ?
A whale perhaps or another sub ? :hmm:
Wim Libaers
12-02-06, 04:30 PM
A seamount.
http://navysite.de/ssn/ssn711.htm
Bill Nichols
12-02-06, 04:49 PM
At flank speed.
I bet Michael Schumacher would love to race in it. :lol:
tycho102
12-02-06, 08:12 PM
Obviously some kind of really wicked mapping program would have to be instituted. The data would have to be updated constantly, and it would have to be extremely high resolution.
Or else subs would be doing these speeds at 20 meters depth.
kiwi_2005
12-03-06, 12:40 AM
If travelling at 100knts wouldn't they be easily detected:hmm: I would also think that in the furture subs would be able to dive very deep. I would rather be in a slow sub that could dive to 10,000 feet than a fast one that can only dive to 1500feet:D
Bill Nichols
12-03-06, 07:54 AM
I wouldn't run at 100 kts full-time, just when I needed to (like when evading a torpedo) :|\\
kiwi_2005
12-03-06, 10:36 AM
Ahh yes good idea. But if subs could go at 100 then surely they would make torps go even faster by then. Probably reaching speeds of 200 :o Trouble is whenever a new faster, sleeker more powerful unit is built, the opposing side turns around and invents a faster, sleeker more powerful bomb.:rotfl:
No one wins! They just get even.:D
Kapitan
12-03-06, 02:44 PM
This is a submarine that hit a mountain at 100 knots
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7034/submarinesy3.png (http://imageshack.us)
kiwi_2005
12-03-06, 04:49 PM
This is a submarine that hit a mountain at 100 knots
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7034/submarinesy3.png (http://imageshack.us)
:o Is that Rasta in the flat above you Kapitan been smoking that weed again? Shut your windows next time he does!:lol:
:D
bookworm_020
12-03-06, 05:56 PM
Going at that speed would case a couple of problems (well two big ones). Your going to create a lot of noise at that speed just by moving through the water, and how are you going to be able to hear anything at that speed??
Going at that speed would case a couple of problems (well two big ones). Your going to create a lot of noise at that speed just by moving through the water, and how are you going to be able to hear anything at that speed??
a really really long towed array
Going at that speed would case a couple of problems (well two big ones). Your going to create a lot of noise at that speed just by moving through the water, and how are you going to be able to hear anything at that speed??
If you are going that fast there's not much that will catch you!
Just about every ASW Helo airplane in existence can still catch you.
goldorak
12-04-06, 03:00 AM
Going at that speed would case a couple of problems (well two big ones). Your going to create a lot of noise at that speed just by moving through the water, and how are you going to be able to hear anything at that speed??
Why do you have to hear anything ?
If subs can achieve in the future 100 knots, its probable that other non acustic techniques are being developed to track subs even if you're going at high speed.
Passive sonar ? :rotfl: A thing of the past.
I couldn't find one hundred knots but will this do?http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~asolec/knots.jpg (http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~asolec/knots.htm)
Bill Nichols
12-04-06, 06:51 AM
Ah... topology. One of the more difficult math classes I've had to take :dead:
sonar732
12-04-06, 07:49 AM
:88):88):o:o:doh::doh::damn::damn:
That's all I can say about Topology.
Kapitan_Phillips
12-06-06, 03:15 AM
*squeeeeeeeeeeeeee* Squiggly lines :rock:
*goes cross-eyed* :huh:
SUBMAN1
12-06-06, 11:41 AM
People typically just don't develope technologies for no reason. What this is telling you is that the day that submarines being quiet and stealthy are near and end. Basically - they will no longer be able to hide, so speed and probably manuverability will take precedence.
-S
micky1up
12-06-06, 12:38 PM
not very good for listening on sonar is it:damn:
XabbaRus
12-06-06, 01:57 PM
Has anyone read the article? I understand it correctly it would apply to small submarines ASDS type things, not big attack submarines.
At 100 knots you aren't going to hear jack, either with active or passive.
The only use it seves is to get away from a torpedo but you could find yourself just as likely to be hit from another one dropped infront of you.
SUBMAN1
12-06-06, 02:22 PM
Has anyone read the article? I understand it correctly it would apply to small submarines ASDS type things, not big attack submarines.
At 100 knots you aren't going to hear jack, either with active or passive.
The only use it seves is to get away from a torpedo but you could find yourself just as likely to be hit from another one dropped infront of you.
Link me since the one above is not working.
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