If a Sub hits bottom.. End of the Road???

[Tachyon]

If a submarine gets damaged so badly, that it sinks to the bottom (We're talking about SH3 here ppl) , will I be able to surface it after the crew fixes all leaks and pumps ?

This is what happened in Das Boot, the sub sank to the bottom, the crew fixed up the leaks and the ballast tanks were blown free it from the mud. Can it be emulated in Sh3 ,
or once u hit the bottom, there's no coming back?

[d@rk51d3]

Yep, no problems since there's no mud in SH3, although you can still damage yourself trying to get off the floor. From memory it was quite difficult at times with AOD though, and sometimes impossible. And the u-boat damage model seemed better too.

Then again, maybe I'm just dreaming.

[Tachyon]

Yep, no problems since there's no mud in SH3, although you can still damage yourself trying to get off the floor. From memory it was quite difficult at times with AOD though, and sometimes impossible. And the u-boat damage model seemed better too.

Then again, maybe I'm just dreaming.
So uh.. (sorry didn't comprehend ur reply), by "Yep" , you mean that it is possible to get ur boat off the floor?

[d@rk51d3]

Yep, I mean yes.

[Tachyon]

Um..I do know what "yep" means, I just wasn't sure if ur reply meant "yes, ur sub can come up" or "yes, your sub can't come up":p

[VipertheSniper]

Yep, no problems since there's no mud in SH3, although you can still damage yourself trying to get off the floor. From memory it was quite difficult at times with AOD though, and sometimes impossible. And the u-boat damage model seemed better too.

Then again, maybe I'm just dreaming.

You're definitly not dreaming... I remember when I once tried over half an hour in real time to get that bloody boat out of the mud in AOD

But hitting the bottom is not the end... last time I played SH3 I got assigned to grid AF16 just outside Scapa Flow in mid 1940, just as I passed the eastern grid border, I ordered to dive to periscope depth and soon after hit a mine... the fuel tanks were destroyed, periscopes, hydrophones, radio, forward batteries and much more, I had heavy flooding and sank quickly to the bottom.... I managed to repair all damage that could still be repaired, but since the stern batteries were also damaged, they were completly discharged, without any diesel left, all I could do was surface and press Esc to return to base (How realistic, without any source of power... maybe they turned the driveshafts with their bare hands?). Last time I hit a mine it was at least over immediatly.

[Tachyon]

Yep, no problems since there's no mud in SH3, although you can still damage yourself trying to get off the floor. From memory it was quite difficult at times with AOD though, and sometimes impossible. And the u-boat damage model seemed better too.

Then again, maybe I'm just dreaming.
You're definitly not dreaming... I remember when I once tried over half an hour in real time to get that bloody boat out of the mud in AOD

But hitting the bottom is not the end... last time I played SH3 I got assigned to grid AF16 just outside Scapa Flow in mid 1940, just as I passed the eastern grid border, I ordered to dive to periscope depth and soon after hit a mine... the fuel tanks were destroyed, periscopes, hydrophones, radio, forward batteries and much more, I had heavy flooding and sank quickly to the bottom.... I managed to repair all damage that could still be repaired, but since the stern batteries were also damaged, they were completly discharged, without any diesel left, all I could do was surface and press Esc to return to base (How realistic, without any source of power... maybe they turned the driveshafts with their bare hands?). Last time I hit a mine it was at least over immediatly.

Hmm..yes..that Escape function...it is highly unrealistic...I managed to reach home too with my fuel tanks empty. Luckily AOD was less forgiving in the name of realism.
Go AOD ! :up:

[The Munster]

Repair all compartments then order 'blow ballast'.

[Corsair]

Put a tape on the esc key... Nothing says you have to use it.;) Other than for saves or leaving the game. It's up to you to decide how realistic you play. On one hand you complain about the function, on the other you use it.

[Jimbuna]

Put a tape on the esc key... Nothing says you have to use it.;) Other than for saves or leaving the game. It's up to you to decide how realistic you play. On one hand you complain about the function, on the other you use it.

Very well put mate...some people play for fun whilst others prefer 'realism'...It's all down to personal choice...neither is better than the other...you pays your money and takes your choice :yep:

Good Hunting Everyone :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

I just sit on the bottom until the rescure sub comes along, hooks to my casing and we offload 5 crewmen at a time. Me being the captain, leave last. Them my alarm clock goes off and I wake to go to work. Just another dream or nightmare depending on how you look at it. I think I mess with this game too much:doh:

[TarJak]

You are however royally screwed if your electric engines of batteries are destroyed, unless you are in shallow enough water to use the blow ballast to surface, Once there though you are a boat and no longer a submersible.:D

[_Seth_]

I often use the seafloor as a hiding place (usually when those DD's just have passive sonar...:D:D) But i always take damage from it.. i can lay still on the seafloor for about 4 minutes, then suddenly "We are taking damage,sir" appears.. Is there a fix for this?
(Using GW 1.1a)

[Hartmann]

I just sit on the bottom until the rescure sub comes along, hooks to my casing and we offload 5 crewmen at a time. Me being the captain, leave last. Them my alarm clock goes off and I wake to go to work. Just another dream or nightmare depending on how you look at it. I think I mess with this game too much:doh:

A nightmare if the sea bottom is at 500 meters , some skippers wake up screaming blow ballast !!!!! :rotfl:

[SubConscious]

A couple of things I've noted about going to the ocean floor:

1. Time compression is the same as if you're near land. This can be tweaked in SH3 Commander.

2. If you're using a mod that gives you realistic wave effects, your boat may "bounce" off the bottom. This, of course, leads to damage and a very busy Chief Engineer.

@Seth - Could this be what is happening with you? Does it always occur in shallow water?

[_Seth_]

A couple of things I've noted about going to the ocean floor:

1. Time compression is the same as if you're near land. This can be tweaked in SH3 Commander.

2. If you're using a mod that gives you realistic wave effects, your boat may "bounce" off the bottom. This, of course, leads to damage and a very busy Chief Engineer.

@Seth - Could this be what is happening with you? Does it always occur in shallow water?

Yes, true.. I was in shallow waters off the coast of Norway in 1940. (Stupid me, i should have realized something that obvious...:nope:)
Thanx alot, SubConscious!! :up::up::up:

[TarJak]

Seth! Never ever sit on the bottom in shallow water in bad weather! I sometimes sit about 2m from the bottom and still occasionally scrape the bottom! It's not too bad if you are doing 0 knots though and in calm water I'm able to sloooowwly settle on the sea floor without damage if I'm doing 1kt or less. You have to be very careful the that nice submarine that Onken Karl gave you to look after.
:rotfl:
It took a lot of practice with the external camera to get it right when not using it. (I still take a peek occasionally if I'm in a particularly trick spot though!

[_Seth_]

Seth! Never ever sit on the bottom in shallow water in bad weather! I sometimes sit about 2m from the bottom and still occasionally scrape the bottom! It's not too bad if you are doing 0 knots though and in calm water I'm able to sloooowwly settle on the sea floor without damage if I'm doing 1kt or less. You have to be very careful the that nice submarine that Onken Karl gave you to look after.
:rotfl:
It took a lot of practice with the external camera to get it right when not using it. (I still take a peek occasionally if I'm in a particularly trick spot though!

.....sorry....Tell Onkel Karl that i will be very careful in the future:oops:......
:rotfl::rotfl:
I depend on the external camera now, for just that reason...When hiding from a DD, i panic if i hear the loud scratch/bang sound when hittin' the bottom! Who said war was easy...?

[Tachyon]

Omfg...now I know why my sub sank near Aberdeen, thank you TC :nope:

[AS]

Here´s my two cents concerning the original post...

1. Go SLOWLY to the bottom

2. Make sure you are at zero knots when touching the seafloor

3. Once you are there, press "D", which avoids bouncing

4. When you want to leave the bottom you should think about using "E" (blow ballast) instead of "S" - the reason is simple: when you just surface ("s") at zero knots, your boat is likely to start scratching and taking damage while still close to the bottom. Besides, it takes ages to get her up.

If you don´t want to suddenly break the surface, make sure you order a certain depth after hitting "e". This prevents you from just rushing to the surface.

Cheers, AS

[_Seth_]

Here´s my two cents concerning the original post...

1. Go SLOWLY to the bottom

2. Make sure you are at zero knots when touching the seafloor

3. Once you are there, press "D", which avoids bouncing

4. When you want to leave the bottom you should think about using "E" (blow ballast) instead of "S" - the reason is simple: when you just surface ("s") at zero knots, your boat is likely to start scratching and taking damage while still close to the bottom. Besides, it takes ages to get her up.

If you don´t want to suddenly break the surface, make sure you order a certain depth after hitting "e". This prevents you from just rushing to the surface.

Cheers, AS

This is the words of a true captain!! :up::up: Thanx, matey!!! :D

[Jimbuna]

I'm not so sure you'll be able to sit on the bottom if your using GWX when it's released :nope: ....but then again you just might :yep: :D

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm not so sure you'll be able to sit on the bottom if your using GWX when it's released :nope: ....but then again you just might :yep: :D
Oh, you can sit on the bottom even with GWX or any mod and usually after the DC blows a whole in the pressure hull sealing your one way trip to the bottom:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Melonfish]

sitting on the bottom makes me nervous. i'm a shark not a crab....

pete