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Onkel Neal
11-16-06, 10:48 PM
And the critics are running at 95% thumbs up (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/casino_royale/). As one who read all the books and has seen all the films, I am glad they are getting away from the space lasers, gadget buffet, and predictible one-liners and stripping down to a lethal, no-frills Bond.
Yahoshua
11-16-06, 10:59 PM
The new bond is a coward.........he's afraid of guns!
The new bond is a coward.........he's afraid of guns!
What? No Walther PPK?
Connery is the Bond gold standard, all the others pale in comparison (although they do have their individual merits). I'm looking forward to seeing what Craig can do, he was great in Munich, and I hope he will bring a hard edge back to the series!
The new bond is a coward.........he's afraid of guns!
Hey I'd rather watch Bond beat the crud out of another guy than just shoot him. There is a time and a place for guns but I think that Bond films of late have become a little to reliant on gunfights. I'm not really sure how using firearms more reluctantly makes him a coward.:hmm:
Yahoshua
11-16-06, 11:32 PM
Being afraid of an inanimate object tells me that he's a coward.
And bond doesn't HAVE to use guns, god no. In real life your sidearm was your last resort, not the first. I don't mind some good boxing once in awhile.
Pioneer
11-16-06, 11:58 PM
Tch tch tch.....Neal, Neal, Neal.
You disappoint me....did you forget George Lazenby on purpose...or was it because he got Dianna Rigg before we could?
David Niven in the original poses no threat, but if Sean is the best 007 in From Russia With Love, surely he must also be the worst in Never Say Never Again.
Tch tch tch.....Neal, Neal, Neal.
You disappoint me....did you forget George Lazenby on purpose...or was it because he got Dianna Rigg before we could?
David Niven in the original poses no threat, but if Sean is the best 007 in From Russia With Love, surely he must also be the worst in Never Say Never Again.
Only if you ignore Roger Moore in Octopussy.
kiwi_2005
11-17-06, 01:27 AM
Sean Connery, great actor.
Can't go past Sean Connery for Bond. Got to admit though never say never again was pretty awful. Not that any of the movies ever had much to do with the books.
I look forward to seeing Craig in action. It's about time Bond became less poncy and more mean.
Where is the George Lazenby option? :D
Anyways, I will have to go with the Skybird option because
I can not decided on who is my favorite James Bond(over
all these years:smug:) and I guess that the Skybird option is a
"I dont know" option. But the choice clearly stands
between Sean Connery and Roger Moore.
Konovalov
11-17-06, 04:47 AM
Connery all the way but I hope that this Craig guy can give the best 007 a run for his money. :yep:
I'm still trying to convince my wife to come and see it with me. After all, she puts me through going to watch Bollywood movies which believe it or not last from a minimum 3 hours up to a ridiculous 4.5-5 hours long, including intermission! :o
So yes, I would love to see this Bond film on the big screen for a change with a guy that apparently can act and that hasn't happened since that Scotsman Marco Ramius. :up:
Bond is back, has he ever gone away? No. http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/rolleyes008.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/confused009.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Bartolomeus
11-17-06, 06:36 AM
Yeah Sean Connery is the best Bond! :rock:
goldorak
11-17-06, 06:46 AM
The best James Bond ? Roger Moore :yep: followed closely behind by Sean Connery.
Chief Thud
11-17-06, 07:15 AM
The new bond is a coward.........he's afraid of guns!
Not only did he announce his aversion to guns (glorifying them for the right amount of money is apparently okay though), he also...
1. Stated the ride in the Royal Marines landing craft to his announcement as 007 "scared the hell out of him".
2. Cannot drive a stick-shift and reportedly asked that the classic Bond Aston Martin be an automatic.
3. Lost a fake fight (screwed up a stunt fight and had to have his two front teeth repaired).
I sure hope this guy can act. I'm gonna be ticked if I spend the money and end up seeing "Jane Bond".
XabbaRus
11-17-06, 07:36 AM
Wow judging a guys performance and suitability on those criteria, are you by any chance part of the bring Pierce back fan club.
I can't wait to see it and having seen some behind the scenes stuff it looks good and that Daniel Craig is a credible Bond.
Where is the George Lazenby option? :D
This is why there is no George Lazenby option:
http://commanderbond.net/resources/sections/news/images/george_lazenby/george_lazenby.jpg
:rotfl:
Haha Bort!
And this is why Roger Moore will never be the number one Bond:
http://www.ianfleming.org/mkkbb/magazine/roger4.jpg
The Noob
11-17-06, 11:33 AM
Sean Connery is the only true bond, all others suck. :yep:
Sailor Steve
11-17-06, 12:17 PM
Not that any of the movies ever had much to do with the books.
HUH? Dr. No followed the book very closely (except for the manner of No's death). From Russia With Love was also quite good. Goldfinger started to wander a bit (and add gadgets), but was still pretty faithful. Even Thunderball had the basic plot. After that...:down:
I personally wish they had gone whole hog and retro-fitted this movie all the way back to the book, in 1952.
Not that any of the movies ever had much to do with the books.
HUH? Dr. No followed the book very closely (except for the manner of No's death). From Russia With Love was also quite good. Goldfinger started to wander a bit (and add gadgets), but was still pretty faithful. Even Thunderball had the basic plot. After that...:down:
I personally wish they had gone whole hog and retro-fitted this movie all the way back to the book, in 1952.
I agree with Steve, they should redo the lot again and stick to the books.
tycho102
11-17-06, 03:41 PM
There have been some seriously cheesy Bond moments over the years. I can say with the utmost certainty that George Lazenby was better than Timothy Dalton. And I actually liked "Never Say Never Again". It was almost a spoof of Thunderball, but Connery, Klaus Brandauer, and Edward Fox all did a good job. There were a lot of subtleties in that movie.
I'm so disgusted with Hollywood, I'm not really interested in the new Bond movie. Based on the few screenshots, however, if I wasn't so disgusted with Hollywood I would probably take a look at the movie.
I can say with the utmost certainty that George Lazenby was better than Timothy Dalton.
I can certainly agree with that. Dalton kept looking like he was going to burst into tears at any moment. And i'm sorry but no way would Connery or any of the other Bonds, even Moore, let a woman drive him away in the truck at the end.
Sailor Steve
11-17-06, 05:30 PM
Say what you want about Lazenby. On Her Majesty's Secret Service had Diana Rigg, and that makes it watchable for me anytime.
Offwiththewind
11-19-06, 01:14 AM
I saw that bond movie and it was action all the way
its about time they change everything about queer bond movies they had before except for connery and moore i likes those movies too-- but this movie is in your face kind of attitude.:damn:
Driftwood
11-19-06, 08:18 AM
And the critics are running at 95% thumbs up (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/casino_royale/). As one who read all the books and has seen all the films, I am glad they are getting away from the space lasers, gadget buffet, and predictible one-liners and stripping down to a lethal, no-frills Bond.
Couldn't agree more! As much as I love the series DAD (and some others) were certainly over the top with regards to the gadgets. At this point I believe CR will go down as one of the best Bond movies ever! Now all we have to do is wait a year for the DVD!:cry: Any other afficionado's in here that will be trading in their DVD collection for the new collection that's now being released?
I think new Bond is going to be great!
bookworm_020
11-19-06, 05:37 PM
I saw him in L4yer Cake, He did a great job there. In the directors voice over, it's joked in a scene where he has a gun that he's trying to be James Bond! The DVD was released a couple of days before it was anounced that he would be Bond.
blue3golf
11-19-06, 08:12 PM
Connery is the man! Hasn't been another one as smooth or badass as him. Either that or I don't like change, nothing like the original.
Torplexed
11-19-06, 08:22 PM
As much as I liked Connery, I think this new guy Daniel Craig really fills the bill as Bond. He's a confident athletic actor, his icy blue eyes hold the screen like a vise, and he pulls off the one-liners in his own gruff way. I was worried while watching the film that the classic Monty Norman electric guitar theme music was gonna be left out. Was quite relieved when it made it's triumphant comeback at the very end. :cool:
Connery will always be my sentimental favorite tho.
Driftwood
11-19-06, 10:03 PM
Connery is the man! Hasn't been another one as smooth or badass as him. Either that or I don't like change, nothing like the original.
If you're looking for Badass, DC has plenty of it! Sean will always be my sentimental favorite too. I ranked Brosnan as number 2 behind Connery but I think DC may have just changed my opinion. Will need at least one more movie to finalize my opinion.
I saw Casino Royale and I thought it was great. It was a refreshing change from the norm (although I did like the norm as well).
Hum, I chose Sean Connery as my favourite Bond, but as a devoted reader of all 007's books, I have to admit that none of the actors yet does fit correctly to a 100% the Bond you see portraited in the Books.
Connery had charisma and was -what is most important- very believable in his role. Yes, he looked as a tough guy, one who has fought many battles and is not scared, as well as being strong enough to make you believe he can really take on all those enemies in a fist fight. Sadly he had dark eyes, while the Bond in the novesl as steel grey ones. Other than that, pretty convincing.
Dalton was possibly too pretty. Yeah, blue eyes and black hair, as well as a powerful body (He is a very tall guy), but his attitude was too soft, sand his gestures too exaggerated, specially when doing fighting scenes. He was not believable as Bond.
Moore -lol- possibly the best actor to bring out the comic and ironic part of Bond, sadly not convincing. Too prone to close his eyes when shooting a weapon and too soft looking.
Lazenby -probably just one film and right after Connery left was not the easiest way to make a debut, and he paid for it. I found him however never wrong as Bond -he was physically big enoug and convincing when fighting-. probably he was however too gentlemanly soft when not in action scenes, it was not easy to accept the change to a fighting machine in the next scene. Not coherent as a whole.
Brosnan - Oh, come on!!! who would believe that such a soft and little boy can perform what he did in the screen?. Also, in his movies technology and exaggeration reached new leves. It was never believable what you saw in the movie, it was like a high resolution playstation version of Bond. I think that the PS version had no difference with the movie...
Now Craig - addmitingly the worse problem he has is being blond (Why on hell was that not solved?? The cheapest special effect in cinema is some hair-tint, for heaven's sake!!), but he looks rude and cold-blooded enough to fit in Bond's shoes. I will happily wait for more Bond films of him. And probably if the next ones pleases me enough, I'll send him some hair-tint for free :lol:
As for the critics of what he can or can't do in real life -that doesn't matter, he is only an actor. Mel Gibson needed lessons of driving a car with clutch and manual shifts when he played ... Mad Max ....(If you don't believe me, watch how he hadles the car in the scene of MM2 when he is watching the helicopter of the Gyro Capatain. He almost stalls a big block V8 at low speed during the scene...Oh God)
Funnily enough I read somewhere that Fleming -who assisted in the first films of Bond- commented that Connery looked too rude, and that he had in mind something more like David Niven :huh: when he wrote his books. Hard to believe if you have read them but....
My 2 cents
XabbaRus
11-20-06, 06:18 PM
Casino Royale, best Bond film ever. Just seen it. Daniel Craig is great, better than Sean "Oh look at me, I'm so cool" Connery.
Hey Craig didn't look too Blonde in the film.
Want to read the book now. No gadgets, or lets say no unbelievable gadgets.
Can't wait for the next one.
Commander Bond's military record:
http://www.sonypictures.co.uk/movies/casinoroyale/site_html/dossier/military_record.php
You never see him wearing his dolphins these days
http://usera.imagecave.com/gcyz/bond.JPG
Onkel Neal
11-20-06, 08:58 PM
Just saw it, four thumbs up (big toes count). Craig is appropriately cold and lethal. The first Bond movie that had no "Oh gawd" :roll: moments at all. When Craig as Bond makes a quip, it's infrequent and unexpected and twice as effective as Connery and Brosnan. This Bond looks atheletic enough to handle the crap Bond gets in.
My complaints: Bond hardly had an accent. But he killed plenty of people, so I'll let that slide.
This movie rocked, I left thinking "can't wait for the next one".
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