The Far right in the UK cleared from accusing Islam "Evil and Wicked"

[Narcosis]

The jury heard extracts from a speech Griffin made on January 19, 2004, in which he described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" and said Muslims were turning Britain into a "multi-racial hell hole".




How right he is...



http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13551612,00.html

[XabbaRus]

You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

[Captain Nemo]

Unfortunately the BNP are gaining considerable support. The area where I live is represented by a BNP councillor. I have never voted BNP but from what I see happening in my area I can understand why people voted for them. Perhaps if politicians had listened to Enoch Powell back in 1968 we wouldn't be in this situation now.

Nemo

[Narcosis]

You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you as a person)

[DAB]

You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you)

You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

[HunterICX]

You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Then answer me this:

1: If a Turkish teenages is going to school with a pistol. and shoots a couple of schoolars including his girlfriend who broked up with him and has a new boyfriend. and then he doesnt get a hard punishment because in his religion its like that the Girlfriend desirvers to be killed!.

2: If some Maroc teen is threating the governement with plans to blow up the Governemt building and an assasination a politcian and makin private Jihad videos about how he is planning an suicide bombing. and he get away with and while the proof was solid! Ingredients to make a bomb, plans of the governement builings including an Airport plan.

3: 2 Immigrants from a muslim country pushes an granny out of her weelchair and hang up her little dog on a tree. suspects not found yet.

4: Killing a friend of one of my girlfriends friend because he got stabbed with a knife 12 times because he didnt gave the immigrants (African race) his mobile! and their parents said clearly ''He had the right to defend himself'' from what I say? for not giving his mobile that *******head had the right to stab him for it?

these actions of some immigrants we see growing everyday pisses me off, and if someone sais that some right politician needs to shut up for marking the world if we continue like this the country will turn up in a mayor multicultural f*ck up. No, he is right to tell that we are too soft against some behaviour of these immigrant that come in our country just to f*ck us in the ass and enjoying their protection of law that they cant be hurt if you do something stupid while in their own country they would get their hands chopped of for stealing no matter what they steal!

and no I dont say clean europa from muslims and other races. I,m not a racist. but I want to see harder actions against those who refuse to adapt and think that they can screw with us whenever they want! thats what I want to see, if some muslim is acting like a terrorist. dont even waste the money on trials and other politic crap. A hard kick under the ass in the dirrection of their own country is wel diserved if someone can think they can come over and make plans to blow up things or kill people because we are the Western infidels.

HunterICX

[TteFAboB]

I could be entirely wrong, saying this from a distance, even though information on Britain is overwhelming, but as far as I've noticed the BN Party is simply following the populist line: say what they want to hear.

Since I don't know all these people & politicians, I could be comitting a great injustice here but from what I gather it seems that the BNP gets votes more because of the stupidity of the other parties than by their own merits. Nobody does anything, the BNP promises to do and looks like they are the only ones indeed capable of doing anything (however true that is), so they get the votes.

Feel free to insult me for saying this and correct me if I'm wrong, and this is the last but, but, I don't think the BNP upholds the values that made Britain the great country it was/is/could've been today, they've simply discovered before anybody else that the Brits are fed up with the current state of affairs and that if they can monopolize this speech they'll grow. This is great, fair enough, finally somebody representing the Brits in part, the problem is the rest of the luggage they'd bring with them to power.

[Narcosis]

You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

I will do.
Why is that a problem for you ? :smug:

[DAB]

You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

I will do.
Why is that a problem for you ? :smug:

Lets just say it gives me an advantage

[Narcosis]

You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

I will do.
Why is that a problem for you ? :smug:
Lets just say it gives me an advantage
An Advantage ?

What, that you need more time to come back with a more educated and sensible remark:rotfl:

[XabbaRus]

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you as a person)
Aren't you clever. You don't know anything about me as a person especially from what I ended my post with.

And to say it puts me below the BNP, well I find that one amusing. I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities.

[Narcosis]

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you as a person)
Aren't you clever. You don't know anything about me as a person especially from what I ended my post with.

And to say it puts me below the BNP, well I find that one amusing. I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities.


My advice is stop reading the newspapers.
Go and read what the BNP say on their webpages.

I did, after hearing so much lies and hate from people, who accused them of Hate.

They say nothing about getting rid of every one, who is not born here in the UK. That is left wing hate activist propoganda, trying to keep in power. The same people who hood winked us all into the Iraq War and who put child perverts on the streets with out checking up on them

If you turn on the news, you will hear Labour are planning to get rid of 10,000s of people, and stop people coming in from the east.
It is Labour attacking the Muslims with the veil and acting like Nazis who also attacked religion. So don't get fooled by reading the one sided views and lies, in the UK papers.

Research yourself for the truth from the horses mouth and not from the preaches of hate.

[STEED]

Research yourself for the truth from the horses mouth

The BNP is what comes out of a horses backside.

[mog]

I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities.
I'm sure you'll agree that there's no real chance of the BNP ever forming a government. The value of voting for this kind of fringe party is the effect it has on the policy of the major parties. If enough people vote BNP, either the Tories or Labour are bound to slightly ammend their policies in order to reclaim the lost vote. If people want tougher immigration law for example, then the BNP is probably a good way to vote, even if you don't agree with their rhetoric.

[DAB]

I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities. I'm sure you'll agree that there's no real chance of the BNP ever forming a government. The value of voting for this kind of fringe party is the effect it has on the policy of the major parties. If enough people vote BNP, either the Tories or Labour are bound to slightly ammend their policies in order to reclaim the lost vote. If people want tougher immigration law for example, then the BNP is probably a good way to vote, even if you don't agree with their rhetoric.
Trust me, as STEED pointed out, no political party wants anything to do with the BNP. And whilst I wouldn't expect anyone outside the UK to realise what they are... Narcosis should know better.

My advice is stop reading the newspapers.
Go and read what the BNP say on their webpages. Websites are a properganda tool as well. I'd rather read what has been said elsewhere by the BNP. Like the following.

True Revisionists will not be foooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the 20th century Nick Griffin in response to the report that David Irving, the infamous holocaust denier currently in prison in Austria, had acknowledged that 4,000,000 Jews may have died in the holucaust.

a[cabal of Jews is] providing us with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexial, anti-British trash. This was in a pamphlet written in the run up to the 1997 British General Election.

I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated & turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat ... I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.
There is also an article called Dealing with Peak Oil Criticisms written by Nick Griffin in 2005. One of the subheadings is called "Its all a Zionist scam".


That is just a touch of the anti-semite trash put out by the BNP. Would you care for me to go into their views on homosexuality, the Irish, Hindu's, Sikhs or the else. The BNP even have their own Leibensraum!!! They have actually stated as policy that a BNP government would attempt to annex the Republic of Ireland!

Perhaps Narcosis would like to justify all of this!?

[The Noob]

BNP is the NPD of Britain. Right Wing extremist Racist mucks.

[Takeda Shingen]

This thread has reached my desk, and is now in my watch list. So, play nice kiddies.

[Dowly]

There´s been alot more violence in Finland recently. And most of the times it´s Somali teenagers who are responsible of it. When I read something like that from a newspaper and if there would be a "Nuke Somalia" button next to me, I wouldnt hesitate to push it.

I could understand if it was a head-on fight, but no. They go around as a gang harassing people without a reason.

We gave them shelter and they act like that? *ssholes.


We really need a new president! She´s like my mother! If a starving group of foreigners would knock on her door, she would take them all in and raise them up. Sure, that´s a good thing, BUT when it comes to the point where we just accept more more more and more of them to live in Finland, no matter if they escape the customs, nobody will hunt them down.

So, if you ever need a shelter, come to Finland! Just run across the border, nobody will hunt you down. Just remember to paint your skin brown and wear torn clothes.

:nope:

[The Avon Lady]

BNP is the NPD of Britain. Right Wing extremist Racist mucks.
That's my opinion. England's equivalent of Le Pen. Do we need to start linking to quotes from NDP leaders showing just how or can you google them for yourself.

Narcosis, the problem is that Britain's Conservative and Labor parties should both recognize the danger that Islam is and shout it loud and clear. Instead, they grovel for their constituent's votes and are afraid to say something so absolutely un-PC, no matter how true and important it is.

For contrast, here's a brave US congresswoman (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23298_Florida_Congresswoman_Condemns_CAIR_P ressure_Tactics).

I beg you to reconsider whether supporting the BNP is the answer.

[STEED]

Brilliant post AL 100% correct. :yep: Well done. :up: :up:

[joea]

Thank G_d, N00b, the Avon Lady and Steed are in agreement, no need to support fascists to stop terrorists. :up:

[The Avon Lady]

Thank G_d, N00b, the Avon Lady and Steed are in agreement, no need to support fascists to stop terrorists. :up:
Much more on this and the BNP from Melanie Phillips: An Offensive Reaction (http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=464).

What say you, Narcosis, to the points about the BNP brought up in Phillip's article?

[Konovalov]

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you as a person)

I hardly think telling someone to f off puts that person below the BNP. In fact given the past and very long track record of criminal acitivity by members of the BNP I find it pretty hard to believe that anyone here could be below the BNP and many of its members. Here are just some of the cast of characters within the BNP.

Richard Edmonds:
Was the former BNP National Organiser. The charming Mr Edmonds was convicted for his role in a vicious bottle attack on a mixed race couple in a pub in East London 1993. He was given a three month sentence. Another BNP member from the same incident was sentenced to four years jail.

In a 20th February 1993 Guardian article he was quoted as saying "... he becomes earnest when insisting there is no evidence any Jews died in concentration camps" in reference to the Holocaust. Also in that same article in response to a question on his own party the BNP he said "We are 100 percent racist, yes."

Stuart Kerr:
A 19 year old man who was a supporter of the BNP. He was sentenced to 12 years jail for fire-bombing an Asian Grocery shop in Sussex county.

Nick Griffin:
Back in April of 1998 he was convicted of incitement to racial hatred. This was before he became leader of the BNP. Perhaps this promoted his rise up the BNP slime ladder.

Then of course there is the long list of Holocaust denial attributed to him. In the BNP publication titled The Rune he named the Holocaust "the Holohoax". He was also fiercely critical of one of his heroes in the world renowned Holocaust denier and sorry excuse for a historian, David Irving. Irving had said that up to four million jews may have died in the Holocaust which was either a slip of the tongue or a half admission of the facts. Nick Griffin wrote in response to Irving that "True Revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century."

Also it was only May of last year that Nick Griffin attended a racist and white supremacist conference in New Orleans, USA. following taken from the Anti Defamation League (ADL) report - 'Over three hundred white supremacists gathered in New Orleans for the "2005 European American Conference," convened May 20 - 22 by David Duke. The theme of the conference was the unification of Europeans and Americans in opposition to Jews, who were demonized as blood suckers and parasites who dominate media and government around the world. A significant number of politically affiliated European racists addressed the crowd, including Nick Griffin and Simon Darby from the far-right British National Party...'

David Copeland:
The former BNP member who became known to Londoners as the "London nailbomber" for his three week campaign of terror in which he set off nail bombs without warning specifically targeting Afro/Carribeans, Asians, and gays in London. In total the three attacks killed three people, with an additional 129 people suffering injuries, some resulting in amputations.

Is anyone here going to try and tell me that the BNP has changed now and has turned over a new leaf? :nope: :nope:

[STEED]

Is anyone here going to try and tell me that the BNP has changed now and has turned over a new leaf? :nope: :nope:

Changed No, turned over a new leaf not in my book. They stink of lies and more lies, they make me sick.

[Captain Nemo]

Unfortunately whether you like it or not the BNP are gaining support in the UK. As I said in an earlier post, my council ward is represented by a BNP councillor and the BNP have 12 councillors in total in my borough. If this trend continues the council where I live is in danger of falling to the BNP after the next local elections. The breakdown of councillors in my borough is as follows:

Labour=37
BNP=12
Labour & Co-op Party=1
Conservative=1

Nemo