Help me id some flags.

[NipplesTheCat]

I looked at the community manual but it doesnt seem to have all of the countries flags that are in the GW mod. Furthermore, I dont know when\if some of those countries were ever targets. Im looking at some south african ships but I have no idea if i should sink them.

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

I looked at the community manual but it doesnt seem to have all of the countries that flags that are in the GW mod. Furthermore, I dont know when\if some of those countries were ever targets. Im looking at some south african ships but I have no idea if i should sink them.

If you have the GW mod, there is a pull-down chart in the upper left on the periscope/UZO views that display all the flags, plus their status and dates of status.

Hope that helps!

[NipplesTheCat]

Wow. It helps some but im having a bit of trouble understanding it. Neutral = N is obvious, Alliierte = A I take to mean allie and Achsenmaechte = X is a mystery to me.

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

Wow. It helps some but im having a bit of trouble understanding it. Neutral = N is obvious, Alliierte = A I take to mean allie and Achsenmaechte = X is a mystery to me.

Achsenmaechte = Axis Powers. In other words, allies of Germany.

It confuses me at times, as I unconsciously want to equate "Allies" with allies. :doh:

[NipplesTheCat]

Oh right I didnt even think of the fact the the allies are not MY allies. One last thing, is the date laid out yr/mo/d or yr/d/mo ? Thanks.

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

Oh right I didnt even think of the fact the the allies are not MY allies. One last thing, is the date laid out yr/mo/d or yr/d/mo ? Thanks.

I don't remember :oops:

One of the things that sucks (for me, anyway) about trying to answer questions at times is that I have to have SHIII up and running to doublecheck things, and it bites having to keep toggling back and forth from Windows to SHIII, as it takes several minutes to change from one to the other. --sighs--

And yeah :D as I mentioned I have the occassional senior moments and forget that the Allies are not my allies, too. Didn't Germany have their own names for that? It doesn't make sense, to me, for them to have called the Allied Powers that. Or does it?:doh:

[NipplesTheCat]

Its ok. The flags that im looking at are british so I would assume they are targets if every city in england is red. ;) Besides I think I already downed a neutral. First ship sunk on my first patrol...oops. Not exactly sure whats going to happen when I get back to base.

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

Its ok. The flags that im looking at are british so I would assume they are targets if every city in england is red. ;) Besides I think I already downed a neutral. First ship sunk on my first patrol...oops. Not exactly sure whats going to happen when I get back to base.

Depending on what version of the game you're running will determine what happens.

For one, attacking a neutral will have you 'flagged' as attackable by that country for a period of time afterwards. For example, you attack a US vessel in 1940, and after that, for a while, US ships will fire on you if they detect you.

For another, in the stock game and in GW, neutral tonnage sunk is deducted from your renown for that patrol (and you don't even wanna know what happens of you sink a friendly ship!). I'm not sure how NYGM handles it, as they don't use renown but work off of straight tonnage sunk.

Supposedly, if you sink too many neutrals, the Kriegsmarine will dismiss you from command and the service.

[NightCrawler]

I had 1 mission, and peek into the periscope and saw a ship far from me, and check the flag...
i thought i was brittish, so fire some eels and later on when i came closer, it was a portugese ship :damn: good it was a small cargo.. :D the bad... little negative renown

[NipplesTheCat]

How hard am I going to be kicked in the face for a 7900 ton neutral ship?

[P_Funk]

Well in reality sinking a neutral wasn't so bad depending on the circumstances and the year. Within a convoy neutrals were fair gaem since they were obviously hiding amongst your enemies. If I don't wanna get shot I don't walk in the middle of a Regiment of soldiers at war.

But alone it was a bit different. Though neutrals alone at night and blacked out were a bit rare.

[NipplesTheCat]

Hrrm I sank 4 ships on sept 22 1939 and they all showed up as neutral. It was the british merchant flag,...I dont get it.

[Soviet_Sharpshooter]

at the bottom left theres a lil book thingy you can open up.. before you do that, theres some arrows that point up and down, you use that to see what country is what, and also then look on the map to see if there neutral or not


*for example, if you see a norwegian flag... then look on your map.. and see that norwegian ports are all red... its safe to sink the ship :up:*

[NipplesTheCat]

Not sure why no matter what I do they all show up as neutral at the end of the mission. I think that I am getting credit for them, but they are listed as neutral ships sunk.

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

Not sure why no matter what I do they all show up as neutral at the end of the mission. I think that I am getting credit for them, but they are listed as neutral ships sunk.

Not sure how they appear being listed for you. I know at the end of my missions, when the screen pops up displaying tonnage, types and affiliations (ex. neutral, friendly), it's deceptive. Be careful looking left to right because it appears cocked. As I don't have an example of that in front of me I'm going to 'wing' an example: on the left, four lines down, it says 'neutral sunk'. On the right the numbers for that is only three lines down. That's because the first (uppermost) left line has no corresponding info on the right side. Your eyes want to match up line to line, and it sort of tilts the lines to do that, making it very misleading to interpret.

[NipplesTheCat]

I think I know what youre saying. I counted down 4 from the top on both sides. What youre saying is onlt count down 3 from the top on the right bc the first doesnt match up with the left?

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

I think I know what youre saying. I counted down 4 from the top on both sides. What youre saying is onlt count down 3 from the top on the right bc the first doesnt match up with the left?

Yep! Look carefully, and you'll see the upper left colum line doesn't really match up to the right side. It's actually a blank spot there.

[NipplesTheCat]

I totally would have been able to figure that out on my own...really I swear.;)

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

I totally would have been able to figure that out on my own...really I swear.;)

:D :p

I know you would have.:)

[NipplesTheCat]

I would have gotten confused and mad and put the game down for several months untill I had cooled off enough to give it another go. At that point I would have figured it out and felt like a complete window licker. You know that kid that you always catch licking the window on the short bus?

[NipplesTheCat]

Yup I was reading it wrong. All is well now.

[rcs72]

After installing GW fresh (and for the first time) I completed just 1 patrol and when I got back to base and tried to go out on another patrol, it said, the war was over... what gives???

[Segwin]

After installing GW fresh (and for the first time) I completed just 1 patrol and when I got back to base and tried to go out on another patrol, it said, the war was over... what gives???

You should start a new thread for this discussion if you want everyone to see it.

[AG124]

@ rcs72: I'm not absolutely sure, but I think that is a stock bug which can occur early in the war sometimes. Maybe someone else can elaborate?