View Full Version : Let's play a game of 6 degrees of separation...
and see if any of you can connect Silent Hunter 3 to Total Annihilation.
And this isn't just a silly game. I have a good reason. And those that know the answer before its asked might know whether its fair to answer. That'll be clearer when this is done.
Let the games begin!:rock:
Respenus
11-02-06, 07:19 AM
Got no idea. You mean TA as a game or just a word describing something. IF you mean the game, I'm blank, but if yo mean a word, the my connection of SH3 and TA is my modded U-Boat U-26 from Hell and 300 Allie ships taking a beating from my boat! :arrgh!:
I do mean that glorious game. But no you haven't found what I'm looking for. I'm thinking of a direct tangible link.
Respenus
11-02-06, 09:41 AM
:o:o:o
OMG!!! A TA MOD FOR SHIII???!!! :hmm:
:o:o:o
OMG!!! A TA MOD FOR SHIII???!!! :hmm:
NOPE! Though that would be... impossible?:damn:
kylania
11-02-06, 07:08 PM
1. Silent Hunter III is played by P_Funk at SubSim.
2. P_Funk at SubSim suggested Total Annihilation as the subject of a 6 Degrees of Seperation.
DONE! :D
Very cute.:yep:
Alright it's hint time. I'll give you an entire degree! It involves the Grey Wolves mod.
Biggles
11-03-06, 05:21 AM
TA and GW?????? That seems....improbable......
TA and GW?????? That seems....improbable......
Yes it seems so but I guarentee it isn't.:yep:
Biggles
11-03-06, 08:03 AM
Is it that TA have subs in it?
Nope. Though they do.
Apparently Chris Taylor is quite the WW2 Naval enthusiast. Particularly the Pacific Theatre.
Keep trying.
Respenus
11-03-06, 09:05 AM
Just Tell Us Already!!!!!
HIJACK:
Does anyone know where to get TA from these days, seeing as Cavedog have gone bust many moons ago. I've had my peepers open for the Commanders Edition multi-disk set, but with no luck.
aaah.. Total Annihilation... halcyon days - my first tentative steps into the world of computers.
Does it have anything to do with a rumour I heard about TA (the original with robots not that 'kingdoms' crap) being remade in glorious 3 dimensions...?
Biggles
11-03-06, 11:25 AM
HIJACK:
aaah.. Total Annihilation... halcyon days - my first tentative steps into the world of computers.
Does it have anything to do with a rumour I heard about TA (the original with robots not that 'kingdoms' crap) being remade in glorious 3 dimensions...?
aaaah, the ol' TA days....my first violent comp. game......made an impact on me I think.....
You said TA.....in 3D? Hah, well that ought to be Supreme Commander.
Nope. Though they do.
Apparently Chris Taylor is quite the WW2 Naval enthusiast. Particularly the Pacific Theatre.
Keep trying.
uh.. surely chris taylor isn't involved with the gw development somehow? btw, i'm really looking forward to Supreme Commander! I like the sense of scale from the screenshots i saw so far.
HIJACK:
Does it have anything to do with a rumour I heard about TA (the original with robots not that 'kingdoms' crap) being remade in glorious 3 dimensions...?
Oh do you mean this?
http://taspring.clan-sy.com/screenshots/screen63.jpg
As for getting a copy I doubt you can get a retail one unless you're lucky enough to find a used copy in a store. I still have my original and I also have the Core Contingency expansion.
Fine do you guys want to me to just TELL you what this thread has to do with SH3?
Krogoth was my bestest Core friend *snif*
/harks abck to the days of a single 36 hour network game of TA and more nukes than you could shake a stick at.
lol I remember dreaming thousands of little robots striding accross the land after games that lasted that long.
Yer, Supreme Commander looks good I especially like the promise of running in dual screen mode :up::up:. Also I've had a look at the wikipedia thing on TA and TA:Spring (wassit called?) If only I could get my hands on a copy of the original...
I never let go of my original copy and apparently copies of the Core Contingency are rare and expensive. Got mine foe $10. :smug: Good ole' TA. My friends and I are all tight with that game. We haven't played in years so I think in the build up to SA I'll try and rope 'em into some games.
Okay you guys want to know how I can connet SH3 to TA?
In SH3 the other day I was setting up a new career and suddenly I noticed the music. I was astonished. It was a testament to how much I played that game that I recalled the music quite clearly. Apparently Grey Wolves includes at least one track of TA music for the main screen.
I must say best dramatic musical score in a game belongs to TA.
Any GW devs gonna confirm this?
Albrecht Von Hesse
11-03-06, 11:00 PM
1. Silent Hunter III is played by P_Funk at SubSim.
2. P_Funk at SubSim suggested Total Annihilation as the subject of a 6 Degrees of Seperation.
DONE! :D
Hmmmmmm . . . kinda resembles an Alexander/Gordian knot answer. :p
I just spent the last number of hours finding all the good TA content on the internet I could find. I'm getting all nostalgic now. Truly it is the greatest RTS ever.
I think when I need a break from Beta testing GWX I'll get right back into TA. Rope my friends into it. Maybe some guys here are old TA players.
I wonder who still has their old TA disks?
Biggles
11-04-06, 12:37 PM
I have it! I'l never get rid o' it! And no, I don't think TA has the best musical score in the gaming history, I know it has the best musical score in the gaming history. Probably the first RTS going with a orchestra instead of that old rock music. I always turns the music up on maximum every time I play just to hear it. I really love one of the scores: I think it's called "The march unto death" and begins with a violin, and then another one comes in, and after a while the other instruments joins in for a dramatical battle-soundtrack. Surely this is the best RTS ever created. Because who can think it's not dramatic when you build up your base, you construct a radar, sees a big dot on the map closing in with high speed, and before you can say "I think CORE is attacking with a huge army of "The Can" and I'm done for", the CORE attackes with a huge army of "The Can" and you are done for. At the same time the music changes dramaticly and your pulse is speeding up, and for every explosion the screen actually shakes.
Nostalgia? Oh yes. And I don't think TA has ever been dull or boring, because no battle is the other like, and you know it's always a pleasure when you just have finished building that 3rd Big Bertha and is ready to unleash hell.
Can you say the best RTS ever created? I can (And have said that at least ones in this post:up: )
.................I rest my case....:|\\
Best RTS ever? That is a tie between Command & Conquer and Soldiers: Heroes of WW2.
But what is this thread about? Tell us! :cry:
Edit: Maybe Company of Heroes can be mentioned in the same class, although its never popular to bring new games into these discussions.
Respenus
11-04-06, 01:32 PM
I always say that the best RTS ever created was StarCraft. But I never really played TA, so I can't really tell you.
There are many RTS games that are EXCELLENT (like the Cossacks series), but StarCraft just rocked. Even better then the legendary WarCraft.
I really need to create a dual boot Win98 OS to play old games and sink into nostalgia, but I'm affraid that with GWX comming, neither developers neither Beta testers will be getting much time to think about nostalgia.
But what is this thread about? Tell us! :cry:
he did.
Respenus
11-04-06, 03:28 PM
But what is this thread about? Tell us! :cry:
he did.
But he hasn't revealed the connection between SH3 and TA. :x
Which you should, as I guess the community is completly dry on ideas that would connect both games.
But what is this thread about? Tell us! :cry:
he did.
But he hasn't revealed the connection between SH3 and TA. :x
yes he did
P_Funk said " Okay you guys want to know how I can connet SH3 to TA?
In SH3 the other day I was setting up a new career and suddenly I noticed the music. I was astonished. It was a testament to how much I played that game that I recalled the music quite clearly. Apparently Grey Wolves includes at least one track of TA music for the main screen."
NipplesTheCat
11-04-06, 04:01 PM
My fav part about playing those game multiplayer was the trusty 28.8 or 33.6 modems. This sound familiar to anyone else,...youre 2 hrs into a great game with a friend then all of a sudden WAITING FOR PLAYER....WAITING FOR PLAYER....PLAYER DROPPED.
Respenus
11-04-06, 04:24 PM
In SH3 the other day I was setting up a new career and suddenly I noticed the music. I was astonished. It was a testament to how much I played that game that I recalled the music quite clearly. Apparently Grey Wolves includes at least one track of TA music for the main screen."
:o:o:o
That's UBER music. It's from TA???!!! Holy ****!!! I stay on for minutes on the main screen just to listen to the music!
This is great :rock::rock::rock:
I always say that the best RTS ever created was StarCraft. But I never really played TA, so I can't really tell you. Are you insane?! You shouldn't ever try and become a diplomat cause you just declared war! The only thing that's worse than the beef between Israel and Palestine is between TA player and Starcraft players.
I'll be subtle... STARCRAFT IS ABSOLUTE $HITE! That wasn't very subtle was it.:hmm:
Okay maybe not completely terrible but Starcraft is such a limiting game. Its all about stupid base building. The tactical and strategic options can be counted on your 10 fingers and thats for the whole of the three races. Starcraft is basically the BEST RTS for the Command and Conquer generation of RTSs. Too bad a full year earlier TA totally ripped RTS games a new one.
I can't hope to say everything taht I can about TA in one post but I'll just say that with Brood War Starcraft was a very balanced game and a very predictable game. What it came down to was not imagination but familiarity with your race and familiarity with teh weaknesses of your opponent. You had to know how to maximize production. Production was everything and the units themselves were less than complex in their implementation.
Seeing a Zerg base with about 20 hives after 10 minutes just makes me sick.
TA on the otehr hand has 3D EVERYTHING. That means not only are the explosions SICK but the terrain affects gameplay more than just creating simple choke points based on invisible walls or Cliffs that are WAY out of proportion. The rolling hills of a desert map or the forests of a green world that YOU COULD LIGHT ON FIRE TO DAMANGE YOUR ENEMY!
Base building was important but you have to maintain offensive attacks or else you'll lose the map. In Starcraft you had those crappy crystals conveniently stord in your base but in TA there is no arbitraty base and you have to fight for control of metal sources all over the map. Not to mention the fact that there was a legitimate Early, Middle, and Late game. What works for early doesn't work for the late game.
And of course there's the fact that which units you build and how you use them has a major impact on how the game plays out. Pincer movements and encirclement and feigns and spying and recon and carefully balanced taskforces are all needed to win against a good player.
There is no sully unit cap so the game cankeep going and going until either your enemy is dead or both your computers crash from system overload. Best of all every game played out differently and replaying the same strategy over and over wasn't going to work.
It is the most flexible and moddable (and modded) RTS every made and even today you can play it and enjoy it more than otehr games.
In the end Starcraft is basically you playing against yourself. You win or lose in the first 10 minutes of base building.
TA involves you and your enemy. A true dual (or WAR if you play multi player).
That's my tirade.:lol:
:huh:
I know.:D We TA players are intense.
But if you want to get a sample of how diverse the tactics are read this: http://www.planetannihilation.com/intelligence/ta/strategy/strategy.shtml
That has strategies and tactics from how to attack in general to unti specific tactics. And with there being thousands of add on units out there the tactical limitations are... limitless.
ASWnut101
11-04-06, 09:33 PM
do you like RTS's, Stabiz?
P.S. (this will p. off some peeps here): TA sucks! best RTS is defenitally Empire Earth!:cool:
Biggles
11-05-06, 09:01 AM
do you like RTS's, Stabiz?
P.S. (this will p. off some peeps here): TA sucks! best RTS is defenitally Empire Earth!:cool:
Empire Earth is a very good RTS yes..... But TA Is THE BEST!:yep::arrgh!::up:
LZ_Baker
11-05-06, 12:28 PM
Age of Kings...... :D
I acually got a girl's number because she wanted to play an AOK lan game with me and my friend the other week :up:
Never played TA but I do have TA:K. It was a good game, I remember building trebuchete ships and sieging people with them.
Biggles
11-05-06, 12:31 PM
Age of Kings...... :D
I acually got a girl's number because she wanted to play an AOK lan game with me and my friend the other week :up:
Never played TA but I do have TA:K. It was a good game, I remember building trebuchete ships and sieging people with them.
I don't know much about TA:K or girls that actually like to play the same RTS as I do......but TA is much better than TA:K what I've picked up about it, and it aint much.
Steeltrap
11-06-06, 12:07 AM
He should call her and say he is going to play "T & A" and ask if she's ready......:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Trying to remember the RTS based on WWII ground units (sovs, germans and allies) with inf, AT-guns, AA, tanks and arty....online was a hoot...capture spawn points (balloons?) and you'd get reinforcements. Had repair/resupply vehicles, ambulances, snipers....AARRGH - what was it called??!! Some battle got REALLY intense....friend and I played some others for a total of 2.5hrs....they won, but said it was the best fight they'd had. Good thing was you could play it using dial-up, and it wasn't populated by 12yo imbeciles who cheated and bitched all the time.....
Empire Earth is a very good game. It has a very nice tag line "conquer all of human history". That isn't official but that's about it. Wanna know why TA is so much better?
http://www.shonner.com/ta/images/ctquote.gif
Anymore questions?
LZ_Baker
11-06-06, 12:19 AM
He should call her and say he is going to play "T & A" and ask if she's ready......:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Trying to remember the RTS based on WWII ground units (sovs, germans and allies) with inf, AT-guns, AA, tanks and arty....online was a hoot...capture spawn points (balloons?) and you'd get reinforcements. Had repair/resupply vehicles, ambulances, snipers....AARRGH - what was it called??!! Some battle got REALLY intense....friend and I played some others for a total of 2.5hrs....they won, but said it was the best fight they'd had. Good thing was you could play it using dial-up, and it wasn't populated by 12yo imbeciles who cheated and bitched all the time.....
That would be Sudden Strike, another great game that has been lost to time.
Respenus
11-06-06, 03:22 AM
@P_Funk
:o
OK mate, keep your horses down. I said I never played TA. Only TA:K which was in my opinion a nice, but not a very good game. I never played C&C either, so I can't be called the C&C generation kid :shifty:
Maybe, in some future, I'll get myself an old nice Win98 machine and play all the cool games. Just yesterday my dad somehow found while cleaning our place up, some old combat flight sim games. S-27 from SSI, Hind, F22,... Those were excellent games. I remember playing Hind for hours on the time, having unlimited bombs and taking out the $hit of of those enemies.
I also remember playing games I never had the chance to win. EVER!!! But I still payed them for hours on time because they were good. And fun. And preety. :yep:
Times change. But some games shall forever remain classics and hit!
Respensus I wasn't being a spaz. I was just being passionate. That game really has that effect on people that played it. Compared to games before and after it no RTS has been so replayable and moddable and just plain exhilirating. And I never accused you of being a C&C gen kid (not that C&C was bad). I was merely stating that TA advanced the RTS genre a year before the culminating game of the C&C generation was even released; ie Starcraft.
If you are a smart and tactically minded gamer (you probably are if you dig SH3) then I'm sure back in the day TA would have made you forget Starcraft.
And also you don't need 98 to play TA. It isn't antiquated. It's graphics and engine are actually more advanced than Starcraft's and the community is very outspoken on bugs and other issues that need fixing.
All you need is a copy of TA and you'd be set.:up:
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