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sonar732
11-01-06, 11:55 AM
Well, seeing the political reprecusions after his speech at a college in California, it looks like Sen. Kerry backtracked from yesterday and appologized for his misquote of his own speech.

I agree that he should've just corrected himself from the get go, but because of his hard-headedness, he might've helped the Republican races a little..as evident by him withdrawing from helping on campaign stops for fellow Democrats.

The Avon Lady
11-01-06, 12:03 PM
Today's Hot Air Vent clip (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/democrats-and-the-military/) sops it all up.

SUBMAN1
11-01-06, 12:39 PM
I can't even imagine this guy in the White House. I'd go beg Gore to come back to replace him if he was about to be nominated.

-S

waste gate
11-01-06, 12:53 PM
I guess he's trying to get to the left of Howard Dean. It'd be funny if Kerry hadn't shown a pattern of disregard when it comes to defending this country.

I'm sure its all Bush/Rove fault and that Democratic candidates are running from him because it is just what they needed one week before an election.

Thank you John Kerry!

PS If it was a botched joke, someone show me the punch line.

sonar732
11-01-06, 12:57 PM
Today's Hot Air Vent clip (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/democrats-and-the-military/) sops it all up.

Ouch on the Kennedy spif!

waste gate
11-01-06, 01:05 PM
http://www.rightsideredux.com/projects/06Kerry/gaffe-up.gif

waste gate
11-01-06, 01:09 PM
WASHINGTON — Demands for Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry to apologize directly to U.S. troops for his "stuck in Iraq" comment crossed the political aisle into his own party Wednesday, adding fuel to the growing firestorm that has sent the senator into a self-imposed campaign exile.
North Carolina Democrats "absolutely disassociate ourselves from any criticism of our troops, misunderstood or otherwise," said state party chairman Jerry Meek.
Speaking to military families in New York, Sen. Hillary Clinton called Kerry's comments Monday "inappropriate."
"Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said," Tennessee Democratic Senate hopeful Rep. Harold Ford Jr. said. "He needs to apologize to our troops"
Ford, who is locked in a heated battle with Republican Bob Corker, spoke as GOP candidates across the country called out their Democratic opponents, demanding that they take a public stand on Kerry's comments.
"Sen. Cantwell is Sen. Kerry's host in our state," reads a press release from Mike McGavick, the Republican challenger to incumbent Washington Sen. Maria Cantwell. "She has evaded comment time and time again in this campaign. Not this time. Sen. Cantwell owes Washington's veterans and soldiers an explanation. She has taken Sen. Kerry's money. Does she also accept his comments?"

The Avon Lady
11-01-06, 01:10 PM
Today's Hot Air Vent clip (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/democrats-and-the-military/) sops it all up.
Ouch on the Kennedy spif!
I posted about the previously to BradClark. Links:

The Kennedy KGB letter Updated with info about the NIE leak (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/20/the-kennedy-kgb-letter/).

The Kennedy KGB connection Updated (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/25/audio-the-kennedy-kgb-connection/).

Ducimus
11-01-06, 01:20 PM
Personnaly ive viewed the incident as one little piece of the overall ugly picture that is the elections. This is just one bit from one side, im sure theres more ugliness to follow.

Now, im not defending Kerry, if one was to ask me, id say he just needs to go away and disppear. he had his 15 mins of fame and needs to get the F' off the soapbox and just go away. But.... there is a degree of truth to what he said. It's an ugly truth, but the reality is, the military has lowered its standards to obtain more warm bodies to meet recruiting quota's.

http://www.slate.com/id/2133908/

waste gate
11-01-06, 01:29 PM
Personnaly ive viewed the incident as one little piece of the overall ugly picture that is the elections. This is just one bit from one side, im sure theres more ugliness to follow.

Now, im not defending Kerry, if one was to ask me, id say he just needs to go away and disppear. he had his 15 mins of fame and needs to get the F' off the soapbox and just go away. But.... there is a degree of truth to what he said. It's an ugly truth, but the reality is, the military has lowered its standards to obtain more warm bodies to meet recruiting quota's.

http://www.slate.com/id/2133908/

At this point it would be convienent if John Kerry would 'go away and disappear'. because why would Democrates want to let US citizens know the truth of what every Democrate has in his/her heart.

waste gate
11-01-06, 01:43 PM
From the Boston Herald.

The real shame is that while John Kerry stumps around the country, building up chits for his own possible presidential campaign rerun, he still has that D-Mass. after his name. And that’s an embarrassment to the good people of this state who sent him to the U.S. Senate.


http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=165126

SUBMAN1
11-01-06, 01:56 PM
Kerry & H. Clinton is what I consider the uglyness in Washington politics. WHen I imagine a politician stealing candy from a baby, they both come to mind. I'm a potential swing vote, but to tell you the truth, I couldn't stand to vote for either one of them so it is a good thing they are not in my state.

-S

The Avon Lady
11-01-06, 02:11 PM
Now, im not defending Kerry, if one was to ask me, id say he just needs to go away and disppear. he had his 15 mins of fame and needs to get the F' off the soapbox and just go away. But.... there is a degree of truth to what he said. It's an ugly truth, but the reality is, the military has lowered its standards to obtain more warm bodies to meet recruiting quota's.

http://www.slate.com/id/2133908/
From LGF:

Who Are the Recruits? The Demographic Characteristics of U.S. Military Enlistment, 2003—2005 (http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda06-09.cfm).

Service demographics offer snapshot of force (http://www.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?storyID=123027385).
Academic Education

— 49.2 percent of officers have advanced or professional degrees; 39.4 percent have master’s degrees, 8.5 percent have professional degrees and 1.3 percent have doctorate degrees.

— 22.8 percent of company grade officers have advanced degrees; 16.5 percent have master’s degrees, 5.9 percent have professional degrees and 0.3 percent have doctorate degrees.

— 85.4 percent of field grade officers have advanced degrees; 70.7 percent have master’s degrees, 12.1 percent have professional degrees and 2.5 percent have doctorate degrees.

— 99.9 percent of the enlisted force have at least a high school education; 73.3 percent have some semester hours toward a college degree; 16.2 percent have an associate’s degree or equivalent semester hours; 4.7 percent have a bachelor’s degree; 0.7 percent have a master’s degree and .01 percent have a professional or doctorate degree.
And US troops in Iraq have sent a direct message to Kerry (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23178_A_Message_to_John_Kerry_from_Iraq&only). :rock:

Ducimus
11-01-06, 02:18 PM
Article i linked was referring primarly to the army, not all the branches at once like your source seems to cite. So the view you present is skewed. Ultimatly its boots on the ground that win any conflict. Love the picture though, thats halarious. I miss the humor.

waste gate
11-01-06, 02:28 PM
'I voted yes to the 87 million (to support the troops) before I voted no (to abandon the troops)'. Ultimately Kerry would abandon the people who protect our nation for his own political goals. Regardless of the educational make-up of the troops in Iraq John Kerry and his ilk will abandon them in a New York minute.

Our people at risk deserve better!

Ducimus
11-01-06, 02:40 PM
I don't care who's in charge, republican or democrat as long as the troops get the gear they need. But I don't think they'd abandon our troops, but they probably would abandon the Iraqi people by a timely withdraw. I woudlnt shed a tear over that personnaly. I know what its like to give up your freedom, and everything you love in the intrest of an ungrateful people who would just as soon stick a knife in your back about as quick as they can utter the words, "F**k you GI!".

Only problem is its a catch 22. We can't withdraw because it would (one of the few things i do agree with bush on), embolden the islamic insurgent/terrorts/whatever you want to call them. They would see it as a victory and more would arguably follow. I don't like how we got there, i dont like the idea of staying, but i agree we can't go anywhere. We're F'ing stuck between a rock and a hardplace.

waste gate
11-01-06, 02:58 PM
I don't care who's in charge, republican or democrat as long as the troops get the gear they need. But I don't think they'd abandon our troops, but they probably would abandon the Iraqi people by a timely withdraw. I woudlnt shed a tear over that personnaly. I know what its like to give up your freedom, and everything you love in the intrest of an ungrateful people who would just as soon stick a knife in your back about as quick as they can utter the words, "F**k you GI!".

Only problem is its a catch 22. We can't withdraw because it would (one of the few things i do agree with bush on), embolden the islamic insurgent/terrorts/whatever you want to call them. They would see it as a victory and more would arguably follow. I don't like how we got there, i dont like the idea of staying, but i agree we can't go anywhere. We're F'ing stuck between a rock and a hardplace.

Your point is well taken regarding support of the troops. This is why I cannot understand any support for John Kerry from any current of former military personell. Since April of 1971, when he testified before congress, he has had nothing but contempt for the military, to the point of calling all GIs criminal rapists and, Ghengis Khan.

Ducimus
11-01-06, 03:01 PM
Kerry's just an asshat, simply put. I really hated the elections.. i mean.. it was bush or this guy. I voted indpendant who had no chance in winning to avoid personal blame for either of them. Seriously.

waste gate
11-01-06, 03:04 PM
Kerry's just an asshat, simply put. I really hated the elections.. i mean.. it was bush or this guy. I voted indpendant who had no chance in winning to avoid personal blame for either of them. Seriously.


Its not about personal blame. Its about what is right for the country.

Ducimus
11-01-06, 03:11 PM
Kerry's just an asshat, simply put. I really hated the elections.. i mean.. it was bush or this guy. I voted indpendant who had no chance in winning to avoid personal blame for either of them. Seriously.


Its not about personal blame. Its about what is right for the country.

The answer i think is "None of the above".

It wasn't about who was right, it was about who would F**k up the least? Which is the lesser of the two evils? Like finding out how many lick's it takes to get to the center of a toosie pop, the world may never know.

waste gate
11-01-06, 03:17 PM
Kerry's just an asshat, simply put. I really hated the elections.. i mean.. it was bush or this guy. I voted indpendant who had no chance in winning to avoid personal blame for either of them. Seriously.


Its not about personal blame. Its about what is right for the country.

The answer i think is "None of the above".

It wasn't about who was right, it was about who would F**k up the least? Which is the lesser of the two evils? Like finding out how many lick's it takes to get to the center of a toosie pop, the world may never know.

If you check back I didn't say 'who was right'. I said what was right.

SkvyWvr
11-01-06, 04:26 PM
The Avon LadyAnd US troops in Iraq have sent a direct message to Kerry (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23178_A_Message_to_John_Kerry_from_Iraq&only). :rock:

:rotfl: :rotfl: They must have had fun putting that response together.

Ducimus
11-01-06, 04:31 PM
The Avon LadyAnd US troops in Iraq have sent a direct message to Kerry (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23178_A_Message_to_John_Kerry_from_Iraq&only). :rock:

:rotfl: :rotfl: They must have had fun putting that response together.

The things bored G.I's can come up with, is stuff of legend. They could seriously make a bloopers type TV show out of the stuff people come up with. But looking at your sig, i guess you already know that ;)

Iceman
11-01-06, 04:32 PM
The Avon LadyAnd US troops in Iraq have sent a direct message to Kerry (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23178_A_Message_to_John_Kerry_from_Iraq&only). :rock:

:rotfl: :rotfl: They must have had fun putting that response together.
I agree that was priceless. :)

SUBMAN1
11-01-06, 04:39 PM
.....

HunterICX
11-01-06, 07:07 PM
:hmm: Kerry is also a bit right

because why else are they trying to recruit people in those low class villages
where there is a lack of education and jobs.

blue3golf
11-01-06, 07:43 PM
What low class villages, 1/3 of the army has at least a bachelors degree.

Ducimus
11-01-06, 08:18 PM
Some of my previous posts weren't meant to defend that washout Kerry, but more of a voiced concerned over reports of an increasing number of Cat IV's entering the service. In the army in particular. Standards are what they are, and when they lower them, i beleive its cause for concern. But thats my own personal opinion because.... well.... i care.

August
11-01-06, 10:49 PM
Some of my previous posts weren't meant to defend that washout Kerry, but more of a voiced concerned over reports of an increasing number of Cat IV's entering the service. In the army in particular. Standards are what they are, and when they lower them, i beleive its cause for concern. But thats my own personal opinion because.... well.... i care.

Increasing? I gotta tell you, the Army of my day (1977-84) doesn't hold a patch to the professionalism, training and skill of todays soldiers.

SkvyWvr
11-02-06, 12:48 PM
The Avon LadyAnd US troops in Iraq have sent a direct message to Kerry (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23178_A_Message_to_John_Kerry_from_Iraq&only). :rock:

:rotfl: :rotfl: They must have had fun putting that response together.

The things bored G.I's can come up with, is stuff of legend. They could seriously make a bloopers type TV show out of the stuff people come up with. But looking at your sig, i guess you already know that ;)

Boy, do I ever.:yep:

The Avon Lady
11-04-06, 01:30 PM
Another funny banner (http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/picture_092.jpg). :p

Ducimus
11-04-06, 02:24 PM
http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/JohnKerryJoke/main.asp

The Avon Lady
11-04-06, 02:32 PM
http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/JohnKerryJoke/main.asp
Ouch! :rotfl:

Wim Libaers
11-04-06, 07:24 PM
http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/JohnKerryJoke/main.asp
Or...
http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/JohnKerryJoke/1.asp

Especially the last one on that page.