Eye view screen went black

[robj250]

I had just got between the to wrecks entering Scapa Flow from the east Sept 13, 1939, 2208. I put up my observation scope to check the positions of the ships and nothing but black. I raised the attack scope and the same thing. So I pressed F12 and I got the same thing, a black screen. I couldn't see anything cause it was so black. Any ideas?

EDIT: Well, I restarted the computer and the game and I heard thunder and saw a bird fly across the screen, so I guess I am in a storm, with complete overcast blocking out the night sky. Now how in the world am I going to attack any ship inside the harbour when I can't see a damned thing?

Perhaps I should stop engines and settle on the floor of the harbour and wait until morning???

How come TGW took the authority to report weather conditions away from the Navigator and gave it to the Watch Officer???

[melnibonian]

I had the same problem once in Miami. The fog was so thick I couldn't see further than 100-150 m. I had to abandon the mission and look for other targets:shifty:

I've sent a report to BdU 'Mission abandoned due to bad weather'

Their reply was 'Be More Aggressive' ;)

Don't worry there are plenty ships in the sea. These things do happen sometimes

Good Luck and Good Shooting

[robj250]

I had the same problem once in Miami. The fog was so thick I couldn't see further than 100-150 m. I had to abandon the mission and look for other targets:shifty:

I've sent a report to BdU 'Mission abandoned due to bad weather'

Their reply was 'Be More Aggressive' ;)

Don't worry there are plenty ships in the sea. These things do happen sometimes

Good Luck and Good Shooting

Thanks, but it doesn't really help me in my situation. I took a long time getting into the harbour and now that I'm here, I think I should carry out my mission.

I don't think a Kaleun, once sneaking into Scapa Flow at night would simply give up and leave just because the weather turned into a bloody storm where he couldn't see his hand in front of his face.

[danlisa]

Maneuver yourself via hydrophone and wait for daylight.

You will probably have minimal visability but if you line youself up correctly you'll be fine. Find your target, you should be able to see it in obs scope at a distance of under 200mt then just backaway.

There is a good 'glitch' that will help you here. Even though you can't see the target you can still lock on to it with the scopes.

IIRC you may have to input your TDC data maually if you use this glitch.(but if it's a stationary target, no probs)

[robj250]

I have never placed a U-boat on the seabed and turn off engines and wait for a while. How is it done without damage to your U-boat?

Dare I do a depth check done by whomeever does it?

[danlisa]

Again, a bit of a cheat but with any supermod if you cut your engines and set a new depth, the boat will very slowly sink until it reaches the bottom. You can use 1kt speed to hurry this along and still take no damage.

IIRC Scapa is between 15-20mt at most.

I would suggest that you actually find a quiet area, stay a periscope depth & crank TC. The reason for this is if you are sat on the bottom you will be limited to a max TC of 8. (unless you changed it)

Edit - About GW changing the weather report. This was because the Nav Officer was never on deck to see what the weather was like.

[bigboywooly]

How come TGW took the authority to report weather conditions away from the Navigator and gave it to the Watch Officer???

Think about it Rob
How can the navigator tell you the weather when you are submerged ?
Only someone topside can tell you the weather properly

[robj250]

How come TGW took the authority to report weather conditions away from the Navigator and gave it to the Watch Officer???

Think about it Rob
How can the navigator tell you the weather when you are submerged ?
Only someone topside can tell you the weather properly

:yep: Yep, I guess you're correct.

[robj250]

Again, a bit of a cheat but with any supermod if you cut your engines and set a new depth, the boat will very slowly sink until it reaches the bottom. You can use 1kt speed to hurry this along and still take no damage.

IIRC Scapa is between 15-20mt at most.

I would suggest that you actually find a quiet area, stay a periscope depth & crank TC. The reason for this is if you are sat on the bottom you will be limited to a max TC of 8. (unless you changed it)

Edit - About GW changing the weather report. This was because the Nav Officer was never on deck to see what the weather was like.

I just on the west edge of the sunken ships on the east channel. I guess i't as good a place as any to wait at PD and TC the ime.

[AVGWarhawk]

Hard to see at night, yes? You got a pretty good taste of what the u-boat watch had to deal with. Kind of cool experience via a game. Wait until day break. :sunny:You will get'em then!

[robj250]

Hard to see at night, yes? You got a pretty good taste of what the u-boat watch had to deal with. Kind of cool experience via a game. Wait until day break. :sunny:You will get'em then!

I hope it is really foggy out early in the morning :D

[Kaleu_Mihoo]

well maybe just try to shoot at the hydrophone bearings. When you're close enough to the target, you'll see "target unknown" markings on the hydro, even for non-moving targets. I know, it's not realistic at all, but... In this way you could try firing a fish with a contact fuse and wait for your luck :)
greets
Mihoo

[robj250]

well maybe just try to shoot at the hydrophone bearings. When you're close enough to the target, you'll see "target unknown" markings on the hydro, even for non-moving targets. I know, it's not realistic at all, but... In this way you could try firing a fish with a contact fuse and wait for your luck :)
greets
Mihoo

Really. I dodn't know I could do that in TGW. What are the chances of hitting the a non-moving target when I don't know how far it is. How far would the hydrophones pick up the non-moving target?

At the present there is NO, I repeat, NO movement of any warships in the harbour. The only warship moving is the one way outside the east entrnce.

It is now 0139 Thursday September 14, 1939.

I realy do not want to waste eels on a small ship. The reason for going into Scapa Flow was to get a capitAL ship, like a battleship.

What do you mean by a contact fuse?

[Kaleu_Mihoo]

you don't need the whole fire solution, just turn the scope at the bearing you've read from the hydrophone, by default TDC settings you should aim in the same direction where your're looking. By a "contact fuse" I mean a fish detonator type- magnetic or contact. Because you don't know the draft of the vessel you're shooting at, just set a contact fuse and the torpedo depth at 2-3 m and fire. If it doesn't bounce off the hull you may score a hit. I've tried it yesterday in the Hartlepool harbour and it worked for me. I also play TGW 2.2 (at 100%).
greets
Mihoo

[Jimbuna]

I think he means 'impact'...good luck robj...hope you aren't kissing your ar*e goodbye shortly after launching those eels just for a small merchant hehe :D

[Kaleu_Mihoo]

yeah, I mean "impact", it was my translation error because of playing the german language version.
greets
Mihoo

[robj250]

Hmmm. I just noticed. Each map of Scapa Flow I have, has different numbers of ships in it. One has NO ships up at the top at all. But, I think the BB King George is in there somewhere, almost directly on a perpendicular line on my route coming out of between the sunk ships.

I wish I could get a map that shows the ships that would be in there on September 14, 1939 and where they are positioned.

I notice there is a small circle in each map in the middle of the harbour. Don't know what's that's for.

[robj250]

When I opened the SH3 Editor. I set the time filter from the beginning of 1939 to the end of 1939 and the map came out significantly different.

There are only a few ships in the harbour and one, I think, is the Royal Oak, but the name is slightly written over by the name of another ship.

From the names I can make out there are the following: HMS Harbeldon (or something like that), HMS Cilicia, HMS Harderness, HMS Athersione, HMS B...eathro, and 4 un-named ships at the top and anotherone overlaying the name Royal Oak.

Do these sound reasonable?

EDITED: Included link to 1939 Scapa Flow Map

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scapaflow1939gf1.jpg

[robj250]

Well, I surfaced during the back night to renew my oxygen level and then went back to periscope depth. I've reached the top of the harbour and it is nowe 5AM and there is visibility. I see no Capital ships yet, but have seen Hunt I DD and Tribal DD.