So, you want to park outside your own house...

[jumpy]

...for free do you?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6082690.stm

:o over my dead body!

Typical pie-in-the-sky thinking from the LibDems :roll:
I suppose all the money magiced out of thin air in this proposed scheme will be used to fund a convivial and reliably organised seat on public transport for every man, woman and child in the country then. No? Thought not.
Buses or trains, dirty, crowded, smelly, violent and perhaps most important of all; FA use if you want to get anywhere on time. :nope:

some comments:
Typical of a Lib Dem council.
I live in Cornwall and have a Lib Dem council which, as soon as they were in power decided to give themselves high pay increases and reduced the pay to council workers.

Will the council in Surrey do somethoing about the Buses and Taxis which also pollute the air.
Peter Fulcher (http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/profile.jspa?userID=5791133&edition=1&ttl=20061025155736), Pool, United Kingdom

In the end you can look at the information any way you want but the amount of petrol your car uses does not make any difference to the amount of room in which you need to park it in. Another money making exercise, you'd think they could come up with something else after all parking permits are just another way to get money off of people who have verylittle choice about it.
Amanda, Aber

I sold my car as unnecessary and cycle to work or use public transport, but I still completely disagree with any tax aimed at big cars. Why should a driver who does 20000 miles a year in a small car pay less environmental tax than someone who drives 5000 miles a year in a big one? We already have a great tax which penalises you for high mileage or for driving a gas guzzling car: petrol tax.
Chris, Reading

and finally:
We pay enough taxes already without having to pay taxes for parking our cars outside our own homes, what next a tax for when it rains.
Welsh Dragon (http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/profile.jspa?userID=3081558&edition=1&ttl=20061025155736), Port Talbot, United Kingdom


I couldn't agree more with that last one. (thought Welsh Dragon would be particularily hard hit, seeing as it rains all the bloody time in Wales hehe)

When it commes to commuting to work the sad reality is if I was allowed to work from home by my 1960's style boss then I wouldn't really need a car at all, unfortunately pigs will fly before this happens as the phb (pointy haired boss) thinks 'eye to eye' contact with your employees is where it's at in terms of office management. The fool.
I have a kickass PC at home with a good broadband connection and a much more comfortable leather swivel chair also, and with things like msn and VoIP networks I could talk to my co-workers for less than the cost of boiling the kettle to make a cup of tea - which I could also have, as opposed to that godawful stuff that comes out of the drinks machine here.
So much for progress, unless you're refering to the continual hikes in taxation this and successive governments seem to think are nescessary, in which case 'onward and upward!"
Typical money spinner politics aimed at the soft target - the motorist.

BLEARGH. :down:

[danlisa]

What's a good country to move to? This is getting too much!:nope:

[The Avon Lady]

I mentioned Thatcher on another thread today. Found this: CWF 30th Anniversary Thatcher Dinner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToaK00BUcJE).

Heh. :p

[STEED]

What's a good country to move to? This is getting too much!:nope:

I hear Iceland a nice place. :)

[HunterICX]

*I sold my car as unnecessary and cycle to work or use public transport, but I still completely disagree with any tax aimed at big cars. Why should a driver who does 20000 miles a year in a small car pay less environmental tax than someone who drives 5000 miles a year in a big one? We already have a great tax which penalises you for high mileage or for driving a gas guzzling car: petrol tax.
Chris, Reading*

Big one? does he means SUV's?
if so, well I agree that they higher the taxes on those petrol sucking jeeps, especially the ones with those iron bars on their front. they are OVERSIZED , Dangerous and they piss me off in traffic.

the car is build for Rough terrain duty. NOT FOR CITY's! but I dont understand the driver in the first place why did you buy it? you could save money on an smaller luxirous car then such oversized cock enlargement. because thats what they are when you see them driving in the city, because just look at it how unhandy the handling of those things are!
I would ban those oversized SUV's out of the city's.

[STEED]

...for free do you?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6082690.stm

:o over my dead body!

Typical pie-in-the-sky thinking from the LibDems :roll:



And that's why they will never win the General Election. ;) :smug:

[Godalmighty83]

but in the end the libdems arent going to be elected so it doesnt matter.

[tycho102]

Maggie was awesome. I don't know why the British hate her. Her son is a bit of a pooser, but she was a tough broad at the right time and the right place. Really cleaned up the economy. If anything, Britain needs another strong woman to get that country lined out.

<insert some kind of pithy little comment about European women being worth 50 times more than the European men, here>

As for the tax, sounds like something our Democrats would do. I agree that the SUV's are gas guzzlers. I would absolutely love to see us move to a hydrogen economy -- probably internal combustion to start with, and moving over to PEM fuel cell as the technology matures.

[lesrae]

A lot of people in the busier UK cities already pay to park outside their houses, for example in Bath where I used to live it's now £60 a year for a permit. The idea was to prevent commuters from out of the city from taking up all of the available street parking spaces (which they did). It was a pain to pay the extra, but at least you had a fighting chance of parking within half a mile of your house.

The main effect is now that when you drive into the city you see all of the commuter's cars parked on the outskirts of the city, very amusing in a city like Bath which is in a valley between 2 steep hills :O)

The latest row is about increasing the charge for cars which create more pollution, part of the current environmental push. My attitude is pretty much that if you want to live in the city and drive a gas guzzler then that's your choice - pay the extra fee. If you can afford a 4WD or high performance car for fashion or street-cred then you can afford to pay an extra couple of hundred quid a year to park it.

[TteFAboB]

Why don't we stop pretending and raise taxes to 100% of everybody's income already?

[XabbaRus]

This is a proposal for those who don't have a drive way and already park their ar in the street, ie a lot of terraced houses and pay for the right to park there car in a designated space. They already pay. It's not as if everyone is going to be charged for parking their car. I do agree it is extreme as it seems anyone with a 4 x 4 or a nice car is targetted and villified.

[Yahoshua]

If someone wants to own a bright yellow humvee, why the hell does it concern you? You don't own it, you don't drive it, so leave him alone!

So he pays a bit more for gas? Big deal.

And if the guy rents an apt. They already paid for their parking space.

If a person owns a home but doesn't own a driveway, they get a place to park in front of their home. So what?

This is nothing more than a money-grab by politicians. It has really gone overboard with this one.

Either these people need to be taken out of office or some heads need to roll.

[JSLTIGER]

Jeez...is there anything that they don't tax you folks for in the UK? TVs, parking in front of your own home??? No wonder we revolted...

[ASWnut101]

Tea, maby?.....:hmm:

[XabbaRus]

Yashoua in towns people who live in flats and houses that have no off street parking and park in the street have paid for a long time. They may own the flat but last I checked public roads were public so they are charged a rent by the council. Fair enough. The issue is a punitive increase of the parking rates.

Thing is what you are getting here are Daily Mail articles, never the most balanced view I'd say a shade away from the BNP. Honestly Britain isn't that bad, other countries in Europe have high taxes too.

I do get a little fed up with everything negative being posted about the UK.

There are plenty worse places to live. If you don't like it leave, but where will you go?

[The Avon Lady]

I do get a little fed up with everything negative being posted about the UK.
Like Prince Charles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1vegW3MhjM), perhaps?

:p

[jumpy]

Tea, maby?.....:hmm:
Nope, we pay VAT (Value Added Tax = a tax on 'luxury items') on that too... and if you are a bird, you have to pay VAT on Tampons :o ...bet that was a bloke who reconed tampax was a luxury item and not a necessity :huh: same with contraceptives - if you're dumb and buy them anyways.

As far as paying to park in my own street goes, I already pay Road Tax to use the public highway to the tune of £180.00 per year so why (asside from filling my local councils coffers) should I pay more on top of that? Leicester City Council proposed a 'residents parking scheme' ostensibly to stop commuters and football fans from blocking all of the streets with their parked cars and preventing residents from parking in their own street. This is not such a big problem as they make out in all honetsy; in more than 10 years of living and working in this city in different areas, I have never had to walk more than 100yds from my car to the front door of where I live. Indeed most of the time I can see where I park from the front bedroom window (terraced house) which is fine for me.

The council wanted to charge an extra £70-100 annually for this residents parking thing. Given that my council tax (pays for local governement and facilities like the non-existant police force/fire brigade/binmen etc) is in the cheapest band in the city and I pay about £81.00 per month, which equates to £972.00 pa, the extra cost of residents parking will bloat my council tax bill to over £1000.00 pa :o:o
To put that figure into some kind of context that's not far short of a tenth of my annual income - my annual income after the inland revenue tax man has taken his share = about £3500.00 off my salary.

And ofcourse I have not even begun to describe the difficulties encountered when you want to arrange a temporary permit for somebody who wants to come and visit you and park in your street without getting either clamped or fined. I have a co-worker who scans and photoshops her permit and changes the details for anybody coming to visit her because of the hasle of merely getting to speak to somebody at the council to even get a temp permit - all of which must be done at least 24 hours in advance of somebody wanting to come and visit :nope:
You'd be supprised at the lengths most local and city councils will go to to inconvenience residents for the sake of scamming a few extra quid out of them. It beggars belief, it really does.

[Konovalov]

I do get a little fed up with everything negative being posted about the UK.

There are plenty worse places to live. If you don't like it leave, but where will you go?

I'm not even British yet I also share your view. Sure Britain doesn't have the sun and beaches like my home country does but there are many great things to do and places to see in the UK. And the standard of living is pretty good too. :up:

[Kapitan]

Yeah its a good place to be but to find work is a nightmare, but there are alot of dumb things happening.

A traffic wardern came upto my dust cart last week she said "you have to move it or il put a fine on it" i kindly reminded her that we were a council viachle on council road on a council job, she was having none of it.

So i said please can you give me your name and number (ID number not phone number) she did once she handed me the paper i said ok now put a ticket on my lorry which again she did, i just replied " did you enjoy working for this company?" "what you mean?" " you wont be working for them for much longer now we have 4 guys on this lorry about to phone in for a complaint"

She got the hump and walked off and we havnt seen her since.

[STEED]

Yeah its a good place to be but to find work is a nightmare, but there are alot of dumb things happening.

A traffic wardern came upto my dust cart last week she said "you have to move it or il put a fine on it" i kindly reminded her that we were a council viachle on council road on a council job, she was having none of it.

So i said please can you give me your name and number (ID number not phone number) she did once she handed me the paper i said ok now put a ticket on my lorry which again she did, i just replied " did you enjoy working for this company?" "what you mean?" " you wont be working for them for much longer now we have 4 guys on this lorry about to phone in for a complaint"

She got the hump and walked off and we havnt seen her since.

That's the way to do it Kap. :up: