P-class, Salmon, Tambor and Gato

(SH3)JOHN LAMARRE · 08-28-2006, 12:32 PM

can someone put those 4 classes on here like the photos what they look like

WilhelmSchulz. · 08-28-2006, 12:48 PM

P-Calss

http://www.valoratsea.com/pclass.htm

Salmon/Sargo Class

http://www.valoratsea.com/Salmon1.htm

Tambor/Gar Class.

http://www.valoratsea.com/Tambor.htm

cmdrk · 08-30-2006, 09:01 AM

Here are the subs profile silhouettes

Correct me if I'm wrong,
The P Class had 6 tubes 4/2
The Salmon had 8 tubes 4/4
The Tambor and Gato had 10 6/4

Five P's had 2 external tubes forward added.
A few Salmon's also had 2 external tubes.

Safe-Keeper · 08-30-2006, 11:02 AM

Wow, the difference between an S-Class and an argonaut

.

I want an S-Class boat after seeing those. Looking forward to seeing it either in-game or as a mod'.

Lurchi · 08-30-2006, 11:42 AM

This is what makes me sad that there will be no playable japanese subs. The Pacific is nice and U.S. subs are okay, but the technical specs from P-class to Gato are very similar and they 'feel' almost the same - an evolutionary design.

The only U.S. sub which were different are S-class, Argonaut, Nautilus and Barracuda - but they all don't make it into the game ...

Zero Niner · 08-30-2006, 08:34 PM

Would be nice to see silhouettes of the Type II, VII and IX on the same scale just to compare the relative sizes...

Payoff · 08-31-2006, 12:23 AM

Not sure of the scale above. This one is 1:700 scale.

(SH3)JOHN LAMARRE · 09-01-2006, 08:12 AM

only subs in sh4 only

Highbury · 09-01-2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (SH3)JOHN LAMARRE

only subs in sh4 only

... interesting.....

Thanks for the profile pics, again I echo the lack of variety in subs. S Class would be nice. I always like little boats, big Type II fan in SHIII

cmdrk · 09-01-2006, 01:30 PM

Pictures from www.navsource.org

P Class

Salmon/Sargo

Tambor/Gar
Tambor (SS-198), off Diamond Head, Hawaii, circa 1943.

Gato
Albacore (SS-218) off Mare Island during her last overhaul, May 1944.

MGR1 · 09-01-2006, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrk

Pictures from www.navsource.org

P Class

Salmon/Sargo

Tambor/Gar
Tambor (SS-198), off Diamond Head, Hawaii, circa 1943.

Gato
Albacore (SS-218) off Mare Island during her last overhaul, May 1944.

The pics aren't showing up.

IIRC the guy who runs Navsource (Paul Yarnall) blocks direct linking as it eats up his bandwidth.

Only way round that is to host the images somewhere else, then link.

Mike.

anthrax · 09-01-2006, 01:43 PM

Sub warfare in the Pacific was very different to the Atlantic. US WWII submarines were typically much larger than the germans. The Gato / Balao class is quite abit bigger than the IX type uboats. They also were equipped with many features that the german subs lack such as air-conditioning, advance TDC's etc. etc.

The large US fleet subs worked well for the US in the pacific theatre.

Perhaps the most important thing thou is that the Japanese where no where as advance as the allies in terms of ASW warfare. They lacked advance electronics , radar equiped search planes, radar warning recivers etc.etc.. Conversely, american fleet type submaines benfited from decent Radars. lots of japanese ships were detected on radar then subsequently engaged with torps.

SH IV will offer a fairly different gameplay style. Lots more shallow water operations, more torpedoing of fast moving warships etc. etc.

cmdrk · 09-01-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGR1

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrk

Pictures from www.navsource.org

The pics aren't showing up.

IIRC the guy who runs Navsource (Paul Yarnall) blocks direct linking as it eats up his bandwidth.

Only way round that is to host the images somewhere else, then link.

Mike.

Thanks
I cropped the pictures and hosting them from my personal site.
Should be viewable now.

VoodooPriest · 09-01-2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthrax

Perhaps the most important thing thou is that the Japanese where no where as advance as the allies in terms of ASW warfare. They lacked advance electronics , radar equiped search planes, radar warning recivers etc.etc.. Conversely, american fleet type submaines benfited from decent Radars. lots of japanese ships were detected on radar then subsequently engaged with torps.

So while in SH3 the challenge and excitement grows as the war progresses, it will decrease in SH4? Not a very good concept for a game

cmdrk · 09-01-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoodooPriest

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthrax

Perhaps the most important thing thou is that the Japanese where no where as advance as the allies in terms of ASW warfare. They lacked advance electronics , radar equiped search planes, radar warning recivers etc.etc.. Conversely, american fleet type submaines benfited from decent Radars. lots of japanese ships were detected on radar then subsequently engaged with torps.

So while in SH3 the challenge and excitement grows as the war progresses, it will decrease in SH4? Not a very good concept for a game

Yea... that's why the original Silent Hunter was such a flop as a game.

08-28-2006, 12:32 PM	#1
(SH3)JOHN LAMARRE Loader Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 82 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	P-class, Salmon, Tambor and Gato can someone put those 4 classes on here like the photos what they look like

08-28-2006, 12:48 PM	#2
WilhelmSchulz. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NS Norfolk Posts: 1,214 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	P-Calss http://www.valoratsea.com/pclass.htm Salmon/Sargo Class http://www.valoratsea.com/Salmon1.htm Tambor/Gar Class. http://www.valoratsea.com/Tambor.htm __________________ __________________________________________________ LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF ALL WHO THREATEN IT

08-30-2006, 11:02 AM	#4
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,198 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Wow, the difference between an S-Class and an argonaut. I want an S-Class boat after seeing those. Looking forward to seeing it either in-game or as a mod'. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

08-31-2006, 12:23 AM	#7
Payoff Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 587 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not sure of the scale above. This one is 1:700 scale. __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

09-01-2006, 01:30 PM	#10
cmdrk Ensign Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 225 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Pictures from www.navsource.org P Class Salmon/Sargo Tambor/Gar Tambor (SS-198), off Diamond Head, Hawaii, circa 1943. Gato Albacore (SS-218) off Mare Island during her last overhaul, May 1944. Last edited by cmdrk; 09-01-2006 at 02:01 PM.

08-30-2006, 09:01 AM	#3
cmdrk Ensign Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 225 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Here are the subs profile silhouettes Correct me if I'm wrong, The P Class had 6 tubes 4/2 The Salmon had 8 tubes 4/4 The Tambor and Gato had 10 6/4 Five P's had 2 external tubes forward added. A few Salmon's also had 2 external tubes.

08-30-2006, 11:42 AM	#5
Lurchi Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wilhelmshaven, Germany Posts: 183 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	This is what makes me sad that there will be no playable japanese subs. The Pacific is nice and U.S. subs are okay, but the technical specs from P-class to Gato are very similar and they 'feel' almost the same - an evolutionary design. The only U.S. sub which were different are S-class, Argonaut, Nautilus and Barracuda - but they all don't make it into the game ...

08-30-2006, 08:34 PM	#6
Zero Niner Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 850 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Would be nice to see silhouettes of the Type II, VII and IX on the same scale just to compare the relative sizes...

09-01-2006, 08:12 AM	#8
(SH3)JOHN LAMARRE Loader Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 82 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	only subs in sh4 only

09-01-2006, 01:43 PM	#12
anthrax Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sub warfare in the Pacific was very different to the Atlantic. US WWII submarines were typically much larger than the germans. The Gato / Balao class is quite abit bigger than the IX type uboats. They also were equipped with many features that the german subs lack such as air-conditioning, advance TDC's etc. etc. The large US fleet subs worked well for the US in the pacific theatre. Perhaps the most important thing thou is that the Japanese where no where as advance as the allies in terms of ASW warfare. They lacked advance electronics , radar equiped search planes, radar warning recivers etc.etc.. Conversely, american fleet type submaines benfited from decent Radars. lots of japanese ships were detected on radar then subsequently engaged with torps. SH IV will offer a fairly different gameplay style. Lots more shallow water operations, more torpedoing of fast moving warships etc. etc. Last edited by anthrax; 09-01-2006 at 01:50 PM.

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