TFT display

Skybird · 03-25-2006, 08:52 AM

My old CRT is giving up it'S life, slowly but surely, it is loosing more and more contrast and sharpness.

So a new one is on order, probably a TFT. That is new terrain for me. I already thought about it y year ago, but back then there was no real need.

1. 19" CRT equals 17" TFT ?

2. 8 ms means I am on the safe side?

3. I want a resolution of 1280x1024, 32 bit

4. What brightness and contrast values should I consider to be minimum, and optimum beyond which higher values differences are not that obvious anymore? 500:1 is okay?

5. I use a FX5900XT, it is absolutely sufficient for me. Could I mess up anything with connectors? what about DVI? Needed? I am doing only little gaming anymore, onls some sims, beyond that: word processing, picture editing, some graphics stuff. Only sometimes action, during a brake

6. Pixel-faults, is that a real risk or is it hyped only?

7. I do not want to spend more than 200-250 euros. any recommendated models or manufacturers? German Amazon lists several models by Benq and Acer in that price range, are these models trustworthy?

Any answers appreciated, thanks

What is the lifespan of TFT? I still could get a CRT 19" for less than 100 euros, and it probably will live another 9-10 years like my old one.

Tchocky · 03-25-2006, 05:53 PM

Aldi are doing a decent offer on a 17" TFT on thursday morning, should you feel like queueing

Skybird · 03-26-2006, 04:53 AM

I saw that, too, but I have no idea on it's quality. It also is in the same price range like comparable offers by Acer or Benq. And I simply cannot get used to buy hightech electronics in a supermarket without a service station at location.

Thanks, nevertheless.

Seeadler · 03-26-2006, 05:26 AM

Buy a Samsung TFT, they offer for their models (build after Feb. 2005) a warranty of 3 years on all errors (incl. pixel-errors). If an error should be present, call the Samsung hotline and the equipment will be fetched from the service at your door.

Personally I use two Samsung TFT BF930 at the HomeOffice and I am absolutely content with those

Fish · 03-26-2006, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeadler

Buy a Samsung TFT, they offer for their models (build after Feb. 2005) a warranty of 3 years on all errors (incl. pixel-errors). If an error should be present, call the Samsung hotline and the equipment will be fetched from the service at your door.

Personally I use two Samsung TFT BF930 at the HomeOffice and I am absolutely content with those

398 euro, is the cheapest offer in the Netherlands.

Seeadler · 03-26-2006, 08:24 AM

the prizes are going down:
Samsung 930BF 19" - 325â‚¬ www.amzon.de
Samsung 730BF 17" - 275â‚¬ www.amzon.de

I bought my second 930BF in January here: www.kmelektronik.de

Skybird · 03-26-2006, 08:28 AM

Thank you, I will check prices for Samsung as well. Although a 17" for 300 Euros or more is a bit beyond my price limit. 250 is the limit.

Wim Libaers · 03-26-2006, 03:31 PM

High image quality in that price range usually means CRT.

Konovalov · 03-27-2006, 09:01 AM

Thankfully my CRT 19" Phillips Brilliance 109P is still going strong and has served me well. The fact that I won it when I re-subcribed to a gaming magazine about 5 years ago sweetens it a bit too.

Might be worth your while Sky having a read of a new 19" TFT article over at Tom's Hardware:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/...cd_collection/

Good luck with your choice.

porphy · 03-27-2006, 12:06 PM

No complaints on my Mitsubishi Diomond Plus 9I. It's really excellent even after 5 years, except bulkyness. Wouldnt mind a 21" flat screen though....

Cheers Porphy

Skybird · 03-27-2006, 01:20 PM

Thanks, Konovalov, that is a good source. Im happy that I am under no time pressure, I can research and compare as long as I want - I still have moving pictures here...

GunnersMate · 03-27-2006, 01:49 PM

Whatever happened to the quality 19" CRT Market?

Wim Libaers · 03-27-2006, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnersMate

Whatever happened to the quality 19" CRT Market?

It's still there. Not as many models as a few years ago (one or two per manufacturer, plus one or two cheap junk models), but they are still made. Of course, as LCD takes over even for most cheap systems, and CRT is used only by graphics professionals who need the higher image quality, you can probably expect 19in CRT's to disappear, with only high quality 21 and 22in CRT's remaining.

Deamon · 03-27-2006, 07:43 PM

Whitch reaction time should a display have at least for games ?

SUBMAN1 · 03-28-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

My old CRT is giving up it'S life, slowly but surely, it is loosing more and more contrast and sharpness.

So a new one is on order, probably a TFT. That is new terrain for me. I already thought about it y year ago, but back then there was no real need.

1. 19" CRT equals 17" TFT ?

2. 8 ms means I am on the safe side?

3. I want a resolution of 1280x1024, 32 bit

4. What brightness and contrast values should I consider to be minimum, and optimum beyond which higher values differences are not that obvious anymore? 500:1 is okay?

5. I use a FX5900XT, it is absolutely sufficient for me. Could I mess up anything with connectors? what about DVI? Needed? I am doing only little gaming anymore, onls some sims, beyond that: word processing, picture editing, some graphics stuff. Only sometimes action, during a brake

6. Pixel-faults, is that a real risk or is it hyped only?

7. I do not want to spend more than 200-250 euros. any recommendated models or manufacturers? German Amazon lists several models by Benq and Acer in that price range, are these models trustworthy?

Any answers appreciated, thanks

What is the lifespan of TFT? I still could get a CRT 19" for less than 100 euros, and it probably will live another 9-10 years like my old one.

If you game, stay away from TFT's since you will almost never want to run in its default res, and anything else looks terrible.

I own a couple Samsung TFT's for their speed, but I still only game on my CRT's.

-S

PS. My Samsungs are prefered by the way for normal office type apps. Very nice display - just not the best thing for gaming.

03-25-2006, 08:52 AM	#1
Skybird One Who Soars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 23,053 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	TFT display My old CRT is giving up it'S life, slowly but surely, it is loosing more and more contrast and sharpness. So a new one is on order, probably a TFT. That is new terrain for me. I already thought about it y year ago, but back then there was no real need. 1. 19" CRT equals 17" TFT ? 2. 8 ms means I am on the safe side? 3. I want a resolution of 1280x1024, 32 bit 4. What brightness and contrast values should I consider to be minimum, and optimum beyond which higher values differences are not that obvious anymore? 500:1 is okay? 5. I use a FX5900XT, it is absolutely sufficient for me. Could I mess up anything with connectors? what about DVI? Needed? I am doing only little gaming anymore, onls some sims, beyond that: word processing, picture editing, some graphics stuff. Only sometimes action, during a brake 6. Pixel-faults, is that a real risk or is it hyped only? 7. I do not want to spend more than 200-250 euros. any recommendated models or manufacturers? German Amazon lists several models by Benq and Acer in that price range, are these models trustworthy? Any answers appreciated, thanks What is the lifespan of TFT? I still could get a CRT 19" for less than 100 euros, and it probably will live another 9-10 years like my old one. __________________ The Secret of Happiness is Freedom. The Secret of Freedom is Courage. -Thucydides

03-25-2006, 05:53 PM	#2
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,133 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Aldi are doing a decent offer on a 17" TFT on thursday morning, should you feel like queueing __________________ -

03-26-2006, 04:53 AM	#3
Skybird One Who Soars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 23,053 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I saw that, too, but I have no idea on it's quality. It also is in the same price range like comparable offers by Acer or Benq. And I simply cannot get used to buy hightech electronics in a supermarket without a service station at location. Thanks, nevertheless. __________________ The Secret of Happiness is Freedom. The Secret of Freedom is Courage. -Thucydides

03-26-2006, 08:28 AM	#7
Skybird One Who Soars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 23,053 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Thank you, I will check prices for Samsung as well. Although a 17" for 300 Euros or more is a bit beyond my price limit. 250 is the limit. __________________ The Secret of Happiness is Freedom. The Secret of Freedom is Courage. -Thucydides

03-27-2006, 09:01 AM	#9
Konovalov Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 4,701 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Thankfully my CRT 19" Phillips Brilliance 109P is still going strong and has served me well. The fact that I won it when I re-subcribed to a gaming magazine about 5 years ago sweetens it a bit too. Might be worth your while Sky having a read of a new 19" TFT article over at Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/...cd_collection/ Good luck with your choice. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

03-26-2006, 05:26 AM	#4
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 3,037 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Buy a Samsung TFT, they offer for their models (build after Feb. 2005) a warranty of 3 years on all errors (incl. pixel-errors). If an error should be present, call the Samsung hotline and the equipment will be fetched from the service at your door. Personally I use two Samsung TFT BF930 at the HomeOffice and I am absolutely content with those

03-26-2006, 08:24 AM	#6
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 3,037 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	the prizes are going down: Samsung 930BF 19" - 325â‚¬ www.amzon.de Samsung 730BF 17" - 275â‚¬ www.amzon.de I bought my second 930BF in January here: www.kmelektronik.de

03-26-2006, 03:31 PM	#8
Wim Libaers Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Flanders Posts: 712 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	High image quality in that price range usually means CRT.

03-27-2006, 12:06 PM	#10
porphy Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 962 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No complaints on my Mitsubishi Diomond Plus 9I. It's really excellent even after 5 years, except bulkyness. Wouldnt mind a 21" flat screen though.... Cheers Porphy __________________ "The only remedy for madness is the innocence of facts." O. Mirbeu "A paranoid is simply someone in possession of all the facts." W. B.

03-27-2006, 01:20 PM	#11
Skybird One Who Soars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 23,053 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Konovalov, that is a good source. Im happy that I am under no time pressure, I can research and compare as long as I want - I still have moving pictures here... __________________ The Secret of Happiness is Freedom. The Secret of Freedom is Courage. -Thucydides

03-27-2006, 01:49 PM	#12
GunnersMate Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USS Sea Tiger Posts: 253 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Whatever happened to the quality 19" CRT Market? __________________ \"Sir they just fired an Exocet at us!\" \"Very well, Bosn pipe Sweepers\" I\'m having trouble with the radar, sir. What\'s wrong with it? I\'ve lost the bleeps, I\'ve lost the sweeps, and I\'ve lost the creeps.

03-27-2006, 07:43 PM	#14
Deamon Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 4,769 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Whitch reaction time should a display have at least for games ? __________________ IMPERIAL U-FLOTILLA 1914-1918 http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/heinrich/main.htm Current stage: 2 - Pre Alpha Status: 27%

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