Get rid of the F16

Kapitan · 11-23-2005, 11:33 AM

get rid of the F16 oh and dont forget theres not a NO option here

CCIP · 11-23-2005, 12:38 PM

Are you sane? Why?

kiwi_2005 · 11-23-2005, 12:51 PM

The F16 is one of the best fighters in the world comrade? But give me an Su-27 Flanker anyday.

joea · 11-23-2005, 01:13 PM

Well "i like it" counts as no for me.

Konovalov · 11-23-2005, 01:57 PM

In the famous words of Brigadier General Mcauliffe, "Aw, nuts". We should have bought F16's instead of the F/A-18's that we did all those years ago. I'm talking about Australia here of course.

But there is an "I like it" option of which 90% have voted for.

Oberon · 11-23-2005, 03:26 PM

Well, if you don't want them, I'll have them

Oh, and if there's any spare F-14s lying around, my fiance would LOVE one

Happy Times · 11-23-2005, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov

In the famous words of Brigadier General Mcauliffe, "Aw, nuts". We should have bought F16's instead of the F/A-18's that we did all those years ago. I'm talking about Australia here of course.

But there is an "I like it" option of which 90% have voted for.

Heres a balanced article about F/A-18 vs F-16 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...06/ai_n9262073 . And Australia being as big as it is you would think the "longer legs" of F/A-18 would suite you better :hmm: Good link with more info on everything concerning airwarfare. http://www.sci.fi/~fta/index.htm

Bort · 11-23-2005, 11:32 PM

Hey, I don't know why you have such a bone to pick with the Viper Kapitan, but I think that it is probably one of the best fighters of the last quarter century. Testament to its greatness is the sheer amount of Air Forces that use them around the world, including some of the worlds best Air Forces like the USAF, the Israeli Air Force, and a whole bunch of NATO Air Forces. Also, it has a big advantage over the Hornet in range and is still in production and undergoing major upgrades despite first flying in the mid 70's. Its the Volkswagen Beetle of western Air Forces and it does its job well, what more is there to say?

Happy Times · 11-23-2005, 11:50 PM

Well the newer versions have longer range but so does the Super Hornet. Debends on what you compare.

Bort · 11-23-2005, 11:59 PM

Well, as far as range goes hornet vs. viper, the F-16 of all variants will always beat out the F/A-18A/B/C/D. This is because for some reason or another the amount of fuel the basic hornet carries internally was never increased from that of the demonstrator, which typically carries much less gas than the production model. Oops. Thats why you almost always see Hornets carrying at least two external gas tanks, and even then the Hornet has nottoriously short range. The Super Hornet is a whole new ball game, in fact it is really a whole new airplane and the gas issue has more or less been fixed, although it is rare to see a Super Hornet sans external tanks either so the increase in range might not be all it was cracked up to be.

Happy Times · 11-24-2005, 12:10 AM

Guess il have to trust you in this one. But one fact remains, the Hornet can take more damage than the Falcon. So its more likely to come back

retired1212 · 11-24-2005, 12:10 AM

Give me Su-33

Kapitan · 11-24-2005, 01:38 AM

plus what happens if the F16 engine fails your screwed at least with the F/A18 you have one left and could make it safely back home

Wim Libaers · 11-24-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain

plus what happens if the F16 engine fails your screwed at least with the F/A18 you have one left and could make it safely back home

Of course, some engine failures are also damaging to the surroundings of the engines, which means that some engine failures will destroy both engines instead of just one, especially if the engines are close together. With two engines, the odds of one of them failing are increased.

bradclark1 · 11-24-2005, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain

plus what happens if the F16 engine fails your screwed at least with the F/A18 you have one left and could make it safely back home

Thats what the eject handle and SAR is for.

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11-23-2005, 11:33 AM	#1
Kapitan The Ruskie Husky Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In my kennel Posts: 7,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 1	Get rid of the F16 get rid of the F16 oh and dont forget theres not a NO option here __________________ "Better is the enemy of good enough" Admiral Sergey Gorshkov http://www.commanders-academy.com http://www.seawolves.org

11-23-2005, 12:38 PM	#2
CCIP Torpedo Momber Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 9,579 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	Are you sane? Why? __________________ I don’t like marches. I'll tell you why: war. It's very similar to disco. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

11-23-2005, 12:51 PM	#3
kiwi_2005 Navy Seal Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,491 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	The F16 is one of the best fighters in the world comrade? But give me an Su-27 Flanker anyday. __________________ Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

11-23-2005, 01:57 PM	#5
Konovalov Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 4,701 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	In the famous words of Brigadier General Mcauliffe, "Aw, nuts". We should have bought F16's instead of the F/A-18's that we did all those years ago. I'm talking about Australia here of course. But there is an "I like it" option of which 90% have voted for. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

11-23-2005, 01:13 PM	#4
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 4,396 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Well "i like it" counts as no for me.

11-23-2005, 03:26 PM	#6
Oberon Midshipman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 16,883 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 20	Well, if you don't want them, I'll have them Oh, and if there's any spare F-14s lying around, my fiance would LOVE one __________________

11-23-2005, 11:32 PM	#8
Bort Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Studying in Atlanta Posts: 1,087 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Hey, I don't know why you have such a bone to pick with the Viper Kapitan, but I think that it is probably one of the best fighters of the last quarter century. Testament to its greatness is the sheer amount of Air Forces that use them around the world, including some of the worlds best Air Forces like the USAF, the Israeli Air Force, and a whole bunch of NATO Air Forces. Also, it has a big advantage over the Hornet in range and is still in production and undergoing major upgrades despite first flying in the mid 70's. Its the Volkswagen Beetle of western Air Forces and it does its job well, what more is there to say? __________________ GT Aerospace

11-23-2005, 11:50 PM	#9
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 3,036 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well the newer versions have longer range but so does the Super Hornet. Debends on what you compare.

11-23-2005, 11:59 PM	#10
Bort Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Studying in Atlanta Posts: 1,087 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Well, as far as range goes hornet vs. viper, the F-16 of all variants will always beat out the F/A-18A/B/C/D. This is because for some reason or another the amount of fuel the basic hornet carries internally was never increased from that of the demonstrator, which typically carries much less gas than the production model. Oops. Thats why you almost always see Hornets carrying at least two external gas tanks, and even then the Hornet has nottoriously short range. The Super Hornet is a whole new ball game, in fact it is really a whole new airplane and the gas issue has more or less been fixed, although it is rare to see a Super Hornet sans external tanks either so the increase in range might not be all it was cracked up to be. __________________ GT Aerospace

11-24-2005, 12:10 AM	#11
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 3,036 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Guess il have to trust you in this one. But one fact remains, the Hornet can take more damage than the Falcon. So its more likely to come back

11-24-2005, 12:10 AM	#12
retired1212 Samurai Navy Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Pole, World Posts: 587 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Give me Su-33 __________________ Sub has been gifted to enemy in exchange of asylum and money

11-24-2005, 01:38 AM	#13
Kapitan The Ruskie Husky Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In my kennel Posts: 7,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 1	plus what happens if the F16 engine fails your screwed at least with the F/A18 you have one left and could make it safely back home __________________ "Better is the enemy of good enough" Admiral Sergey Gorshkov http://www.commanders-academy.com http://www.seawolves.org

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