To the Europeans

Happy Times · 10-24-2005, 10:38 AM

Was surfing and got this link from Wikipedia. http://hymnus-europae.at/ Go to the "audi hymnum" to listen. Ive allways liked the EU hymn but it just so different with lyrics. It makes you think. Anyone else? Plus i think Latin is a beautiful language, maybe we should have some common language teached to all?

August · 10-24-2005, 11:19 AM

Yeah, English.

retired1212 · 10-24-2005, 12:43 PM

liberate tutemet ex inferis

Hitman · 10-24-2005, 02:39 PM

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liberate tutemet ex inferis

"Final horizon" movie fan?

retired1212 · 10-24-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

"Final horizon" movie fan?

Just a little correction. Event Horizon

werauchimmer · 10-26-2005, 02:42 PM

1st: The correct phrase is "Liberate tute mae / tuteme ex inferis" - "Save me/yourselfes from hell" (Well, "the inferno", which probably is equal in terms of ambient heat and humiditiy - or lack of the latter. Early Latin had no place like "hell", at least not by that name. But for translations purposes "hell" will do just fine.). "tute" is yourself(pl.), "ex Inferis" is the ablative case of "inferi", meaning "from hell". The character "DJ" makes a wrong translation at first, iirc. "Save me from hell", because when pronounced "mae", it sounds like the Latin word "me". Later he discovers that it could as well be tuteme. Chilling

2nd: Latin wouldÂ´nt be MY choice for a uniform language. Apart from the fact that it simply has no words for the more modern expressions, the grammar is...complicated. I am absolutely happy with the grammatic cases I already have, no need for an additional one (Ablative).

Edit:
Nearly forgot: You can get all Asterix comics in Latin in some of the better equipped libraries. Beware of the dialects, though. People from Lugundum have a very wierd accent. Let alone that one pirate...

Cheers
Wera

Dan D · 10-26-2005, 05:59 PM

Have I already mentioned that my Latin teacher at school, Dr. K., was an ex - Waffle-SS-mate? Oh no, not again.
What do you expect from a Latin teacher who teases pupils with old language? He is an old nancy, of course.

Dr. K was suffering from a shell-shock obviously. He always bored us with stories like â€œ all we had to eat in Russia was frozen tooth-pasteâ€ or â€œ to go for a pee was a real problem, your Heinrich would just fall offâ€. And when there was an air-defence drill at school (cold war times), he used to jump under the table, shouting â€œAlarm!â€. LOL., totally screwed.
When he stepped down from his office as Latin teacher, no pupils or representatives joined his farewell-party, because his SS-membership past had just become public; us pupils could not stand him anyway, and especially Dr. Sch., my math teacher, was outraged and never ever talked to him again, because he and his family had been suffering under the Nazi reign.

Happy Times · 10-27-2005, 12:15 PM

http://www.cherryh.com/www/latin1.htm Didn find it too difficult from first glance, could be wrong though.. You would think the missing words could be created, maybe some from all languages? :hmm:

werauchimmer · 10-28-2005, 03:33 AM

And why go for this, if there are perfectly good living languages? If you try to pimp-my-latin, youÂ´ll end up with another "esperanto".

Just so we have no misunderstanding: I love Latin. It is brutally logic, imho. Somewhat like spoken mathematics. The additional cases make for more diverse expressions. Roman Poetry is a riot, being octet based and all. But it is a dead language, and for a reason.

10-24-2005, 10:38 AM	#1
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 3,036 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	To the Europeans Was surfing and got this link from Wikipedia. http://hymnus-europae.at/ Go to the "audi hymnum" to listen. Ive allways liked the EU hymn but it just so different with lyrics. It makes you think. Anyone else? Plus i think Latin is a beautiful language, maybe we should have some common language teached to all? __________________

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August Ugly American Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,273 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, English. __________________ “Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.” ― Theodore Roosevelt

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retired1212 Samurai Navy Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Pole, World Posts: 587 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	liberate tutemet ex inferis __________________ Sub has been gifted to enemy in exchange of asylum and money

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Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 3,036 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://www.cherryh.com/www/latin1.htm Didn find it too difficult from first glance, could be wrong though.. You would think the missing words could be created, maybe some from all languages? :hmm: __________________

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10-26-2005, 02:42 PM	#6
werauchimmer Officer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 247 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	1st: The correct phrase is "Liberate tute mae / tuteme ex inferis" - "Save me/yourselfes from hell" (Well, "the inferno", which probably is equal in terms of ambient heat and humiditiy - or lack of the latter. Early Latin had no place like "hell", at least not by that name. But for translations purposes "hell" will do just fine.). "tute" is yourself(pl.), "ex Inferis" is the ablative case of "inferi", meaning "from hell". The character "DJ" makes a wrong translation at first, iirc. "Save me from hell", because when pronounced "mae", it sounds like the Latin word "me". Later he discovers that it could as well be tuteme. Chilling 2nd: Latin wouldÂ´nt be MY choice for a uniform language. Apart from the fact that it simply has no words for the more modern expressions, the grammar is...complicated. I am absolutely happy with the grammatic cases I already have, no need for an additional one (Ablative). Edit: Nearly forgot: You can get all Asterix comics in Latin in some of the better equipped libraries. Beware of the dialects, though. People from Lugundum have a very wierd accent. Let alone that one pirate... Cheers Wera

10-26-2005, 05:59 PM	#7
Dan D Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 703 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Have I already mentioned that my Latin teacher at school, Dr. K., was an ex - Waffle-SS-mate? Oh no, not again. What do you expect from a Latin teacher who teases pupils with old language? He is an old nancy, of course. Dr. K was suffering from a shell-shock obviously. He always bored us with stories like â€œ all we had to eat in Russia was frozen tooth-pasteâ€ or â€œ to go for a pee was a real problem, your Heinrich would just fall offâ€. And when there was an air-defence drill at school (cold war times), he used to jump under the table, shouting â€œAlarm!â€. LOL., totally screwed. When he stepped down from his office as Latin teacher, no pupils or representatives joined his farewell-party, because his SS-membership past had just become public; us pupils could not stand him anyway, and especially Dr. Sch., my math teacher, was outraged and never ever talked to him again, because he and his family had been suffering under the Nazi reign.

10-28-2005, 03:33 AM	#9
werauchimmer Officer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 247 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And why go for this, if there are perfectly good living languages? If you try to pimp-my-latin, youÂ´ll end up with another "esperanto". Just so we have no misunderstanding: I love Latin. It is brutally logic, imho. Somewhat like spoken mathematics. The additional cases make for more diverse expressions. Roman Poetry is a riot, being octet based and all. But it is a dead language, and for a reason.