Weg met Amerika

Rockstar · 09-18-2005, 04:56 PM

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/239

"Down with America" is the title of a recent song by the popular Belgian musician Raymond van het Groenewoud. Written in Dutch and published by EMI , "Weg met Amerika" ("Down with America") will be available in record shops as of next week, and was played on Belgian state radio last Thursday and Friday. Here is a quote from the lyrics of the song:
Hamburgers and coke, yes you already knew
But do you also know the cause of the general decay?
Short-sighted thinking, loud talking
Sticking to one-liners forever
Down with America! Down with the jerks from America
Down with America! [...]

Down with American colonialism
Down with that ugly, biting English
All the Anglo-Saxon pretence, arrogance
Yes, a hot pick up their ass
And that is that [...]

I am from the Belgian, the European panel
And I ask you: â€œClear my channel! Clear my channel!â€
Megalomaniac unicellular idiots
Kiss my ass, yes, kiss my balls

Incitement to hatred against people based on (i.a.) nationality is a crime in Belgium. In practice however, this law is only enforced when Arab, muslim or African minorities are criticized. Hate speech against the Americans or the British remains unsanctioned, as was recently shown when the leftist newspaper De Morgen published an article that complained about the British, "with their unique mixture of wantonness and arrogance, their pathetic addiction to drink, their bad taste, and actually just their ugliness and thickheaded presence".

In January 2003, the Flemish commercial radio station Q-Music was sanctioned by the Flemish Council for Disputes in Radio and Television, after a complaint from the Center for Equal Opportunities and Opposition to Racism (CEOOR). In their radio show, presenters Erwin Deckers and Sven Ornelis had described Venus and Serena Williams as 'monkeys'. The CEOOR decided that their way of reporting was "a gross insult to all our non-white citizens. The vulgar language [...] contributes to the banalization of racist speech. Hence, the program incited to hate based on race".

More and more, it seems that racist or semi-racist expressions are punished when they originate from popular culture or from right-wing politicians and are directed against muslims, Arabs or Africans, but that similar expressions remain unpunished when they come from 'progressive' artists and leftist intellectuals and are directed against the Americans, the British or the Dutch. In my opinion, the CEOOR and its policies are leading us to a less tolerant society, with more social irritation, distrust and friction. When the state tries to control the thoughts and minds of the people, it will only lose their respect.

martes86 · 09-18-2005, 05:05 PM

Freddy Kruger!

gdogghenrikson · 09-18-2005, 05:07 PM

Some one tell the writer of the song to Come to america and say that to my face

Kapitan · 09-18-2005, 05:08 PM

huh what this one about ?

Skybird · 09-18-2005, 05:08 PM

Primitive. But it is telling something that such a song is avcceptable to the public nowadays. I do not excuse it, but ask how comes that there is so much bitterness that such texts find an audience that does not hide in secret barns and hidden cellars?

Iceman · 09-18-2005, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Incitement to hatred against people based on (i.a.) nationality is a crime in Belgium. In practice however, this law is only enforced when Arab, muslim or African minorities are criticized. Hate speech against the Americans or the British remains unsanctioned, as was recently shown when the leftist newspaper De Morgen published an article that complained about the British, "with their unique mixture of wantonness and arrogance, their pathetic addiction to drink, their bad taste, and actually just their ugliness and thickheaded presence".

Can you tell me where to purchase that song?...I want to send a copy of it to skybird....and if he "was" in America...This so called singer...,..he would be free to sing whatever he wanted to...he could sing to the devil himself while married to a man...wearing a dress if he wanted to.Lol...not even worthy of a post in the General area of Subsim lol.

gdogghenrikson · 09-18-2005, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martes86

Freddy Kruger!

Freddy Kruger is the bomb!!!

MadMike · 09-18-2005, 07:13 PM

Hell, team him up with "The Dixie Chicks", Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, Hanoi Jane Fonda, and the rest of the MoveOn.org crowd...

Wanna bet he'll never sing a tune critical of Islam?

Yours, Mike

IYAAYAS!

Damo1977 · 09-19-2005, 12:51 AM

I've heard worse anti-American songs coming from the Americans themselves...Its funny what people get upset over

mog · 09-19-2005, 02:36 AM

It's the same old story really. When have Europeans ever not resented the Anglo-Saxon peoples?

Kapitan · 09-19-2005, 03:05 AM

people have the right for free speach so why is it being frown and infringed right now?

just because you dont see some one elses views as right doesnt give you the right to mock or judge because after all its thier opinion not yours you have or can have your own

PeriscopeDepth · 09-19-2005, 03:16 AM

It's not being infringed, it's being exercised. People are allowed to have opinions about opinions in most western countries.

jumpy · 09-19-2005, 05:36 AM

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De Morgen published an article that complained about the British, "with their unique mixture of wantonness and arrogance, their pathetic addiction to drink, their bad taste, and actually just their ugliness and thickheaded presence

Yer well, you don't get to hear about the war on chav's in the popular press... lmfao
www.chavscum.co.uk

XabbaRus · 09-19-2005, 05:45 AM

Excuse enough to invade Belgium me thinks..

Can anyone actually tell me the reason for Belgiums existence? I mean how come France never knobbled it.

I get most countries in the EU but not Belgium, or Luxembourg for that matter....

On a more serious side there is a hypocrisy amongst the lefty liberal PC crowd at the moment.

Its like being white and in the majority is wrong therefore if anything is said that is insulting to whites or critical its OK, but if you say something against minorities, regardless of whether it is insulting racially, just critical then you get jumped on and sent to the race relations panel etc etc...

Personally yea free speech is a pillar of democracy but also the responsibility to use it constructively. I think what he has written is just lunatic crap, the same as the BNP spouting there stuff in the UK... Nothing to get worked up about.

Ice, what Skybird is wondering is how someone like this guy is listened to in the general population, not just by fringe groups who meet in cellars and you don't see cos society thinks they are nuts.

Sixpack · 09-19-2005, 06:28 AM

He is a pityful loser who needs the cash. Hadnt heard from him since 1987.

Ignore him. However, he is one of those voices that make up 'democracies'.

09-18-2005, 04:56 PM	#1
Rockstar Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Restaurant at the end of the universe Posts: 2,168 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Weg met Amerika http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/239 "Down with America" is the title of a recent song by the popular Belgian musician Raymond van het Groenewoud. Written in Dutch and published by EMI , "Weg met Amerika" ("Down with America") will be available in record shops as of next week, and was played on Belgian state radio last Thursday and Friday. Here is a quote from the lyrics of the song: Hamburgers and coke, yes you already knew But do you also know the cause of the general decay? Short-sighted thinking, loud talking Sticking to one-liners forever Down with America! Down with the jerks from America Down with America! [...] Down with American colonialism Down with that ugly, biting English All the Anglo-Saxon pretence, arrogance Yes, a hot pick up their ass And that is that [...] I am from the Belgian, the European panel And I ask you: â€œClear my channel! Clear my channel!â€ Megalomaniac unicellular idiots Kiss my ass, yes, kiss my balls Incitement to hatred against people based on (i.a.) nationality is a crime in Belgium. In practice however, this law is only enforced when Arab, muslim or African minorities are criticized. Hate speech against the Americans or the British remains unsanctioned, as was recently shown when the leftist newspaper De Morgen published an article that complained about the British, "with their unique mixture of wantonness and arrogance, their pathetic addiction to drink, their bad taste, and actually just their ugliness and thickheaded presence". In January 2003, the Flemish commercial radio station Q-Music was sanctioned by the Flemish Council for Disputes in Radio and Television, after a complaint from the Center for Equal Opportunities and Opposition to Racism (CEOOR). In their radio show, presenters Erwin Deckers and Sven Ornelis had described Venus and Serena Williams as 'monkeys'. The CEOOR decided that their way of reporting was "a gross insult to all our non-white citizens. The vulgar language [...] contributes to the banalization of racist speech. Hence, the program incited to hate based on race". More and more, it seems that racist or semi-racist expressions are punished when they originate from popular culture or from right-wing politicians and are directed against muslims, Arabs or Africans, but that similar expressions remain unpunished when they come from 'progressive' artists and leftist intellectuals and are directed against the Americans, the British or the Dutch. In my opinion, the CEOOR and its policies are leading us to a less tolerant society, with more social irritation, distrust and friction. When the state tries to control the thoughts and minds of the people, it will only lose their respect. __________________ __________________ 1942 called and said you can't ignore the world and be left alone in peace. We are involved. We have to be. We will be hurt sometimes, sure. But nobody will ever think we are a soft target.

09-18-2005, 05:05 PM	#2
martes86 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 1,708 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Freddy Kruger! __________________ Officer of International Relationships and member of the 24th Flotilla High Command SubClub Administrator http://www.24flotilla.com/ http://subclub.info/

09-18-2005, 05:07 PM	#3
gdogghenrikson Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,068 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Some one tell the writer of the song to Come to america and say that to my face __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

09-18-2005, 05:08 PM	#4
Kapitan The Ruskie Husky Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In my kennel Posts: 7,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 1	huh what this one about ? __________________ "Better is the enemy of good enough" Admiral Sergey Gorshkov http://www.commanders-academy.com http://www.seawolves.org

09-18-2005, 05:08 PM	#5
Skybird One Who Soars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 23,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Primitive. But it is telling something that such a song is avcceptable to the public nowadays. I do not excuse it, but ask how comes that there is so much bitterness that such texts find an audience that does not hide in secret barns and hidden cellars? __________________ The Secret of Happiness is Freedom. The Secret of Freedom is Courage. -Thucydides

09-18-2005, 07:13 PM	#8
MadMike Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 750 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Hell, team him up with "The Dixie Chicks", Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, Hanoi Jane Fonda, and the rest of the MoveOn.org crowd... Wanna bet he'll never sing a tune critical of Islam? Yours, Mike IYAAYAS!

09-19-2005, 12:51 AM	#9
Damo1977 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 583 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've heard worse anti-American songs coming from the Americans themselves...Its funny what people get upset over __________________ \"If man is called to be to be a streetsweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lived a great streetsweeper who did his job well\" Martin Luther King, Jr

09-19-2005, 02:36 AM	#10
mog Weps Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 373 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's the same old story really. When have Europeans ever not resented the Anglo-Saxon peoples?

09-19-2005, 03:05 AM	#11
Kapitan The Ruskie Husky Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In my kennel Posts: 7,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 1	people have the right for free speach so why is it being frown and infringed right now? just because you dont see some one elses views as right doesnt give you the right to mock or judge because after all its thier opinion not yours you have or can have your own __________________ "Better is the enemy of good enough" Admiral Sergey Gorshkov http://www.commanders-academy.com http://www.seawolves.org

09-19-2005, 03:16 AM	#12
PeriscopeDepth Admiral Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 2,170 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	It's not being infringed, it's being exercised. People are allowed to have opinions about opinions in most western countries. __________________ When the range was 5,500 yards the target hoisted a flag signal, both he and the escort turned toward at high speed, the "Q" ship uncovered his guns and the first salvo was a straddle. BATFISH bent on four and started executing the well known maneuver of getting the hell out... Fifth war patrol, USS BATFISH

09-19-2005, 05:45 AM	#14
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 11,254 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Excuse enough to invade Belgium me thinks.. Can anyone actually tell me the reason for Belgiums existence? I mean how come France never knobbled it. I get most countries in the EU but not Belgium, or Luxembourg for that matter.... On a more serious side there is a hypocrisy amongst the lefty liberal PC crowd at the moment. Its like being white and in the majority is wrong therefore if anything is said that is insulting to whites or critical its OK, but if you say something against minorities, regardless of whether it is insulting racially, just critical then you get jumped on and sent to the race relations panel etc etc... Personally yea free speech is a pillar of democracy but also the responsibility to use it constructively. I think what he has written is just lunatic crap, the same as the BNP spouting there stuff in the UK... Nothing to get worked up about. Ice, what Skybird is wondering is how someone like this guy is listened to in the general population, not just by fringe groups who meet in cellars and you don't see cos society thinks they are nuts. __________________

09-19-2005, 06:28 AM	#15
Sixpack The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 1,415 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	He is a pityful loser who needs the cash. Hadnt heard from him since 1987. Ignore him. However, he is one of those voices that make up 'democracies'. __________________ \"Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse\"

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