Your choice on next playable platform in DW?

Apocal · 09-13-2005, 07:40 PM

My vote goes to the Arleigh Burke-class Flight IIA (Oscar Austin-class). Take command of arguably the most powerful surface combatant in the world today. In terms of tradeoffs, the Flight IIAs lost their Harpoons (and TACTASS, possibly) in exchange and both CIWS mounts on the all units past the USS Shoup (DDG-86).

The upside however, is that it gains a hangar bay for two embarked helos, additional helo handling equipment, and the RIM-162A Evovled SeaSparrow Missile, in quadpacks mounted inside the VLS, which is significantly more effective against modern seaskimming missiles than CIWS.

I wonder what everyone else is thinking? Since I can only have so many poll options, my first runner up would be an Oscar II-class SSGN.

Molon Labe · 09-13-2005, 08:47 PM

The priority really ought to be to add the Russian/Chinese equivalents of the American ASW platforms that DW added to SC, or, by the same logic, a Western diesel-electric. This would round-out the ASW battlespace, which is rather incomplete without the counterparts being in the game.

After that, expanding the game into a better surface and air warfare makes sense. That would be the time to start adding more multirole surface vessles. :|\

Sea Demon · 09-13-2005, 08:50 PM

I would love to see an Arleigh Burke DDG or a new Western Diesel add-on.

I definitely voted Arleigh Burke.

But if we get a western diesel, I was thinking Japanese Oyashio or Harushio. Even a RAN Collins. And I would love a Virginia SSN add-on as well. But since we only get one vote....I gotta say Arleigh Burke.

Sea Demon

Edited to add a comment and spell-check.

Pigfish · 09-13-2005, 08:53 PM

Udaloy II all the way for me, and equally a western diesel. Think 212A.

diver · 09-14-2005, 12:13 AM

Other.

I would love...
RAN Collins class subs
RN type 23 Duke class frigates
RAN OHP FFG, that is with the VLS launched ESSM forward of the mk13

Orm · 09-14-2005, 12:51 AM

Other,

A western surface or sub platform that is not American but could be from NATO.

Kapitan · 09-14-2005, 01:14 AM

id love to get into an alfa but then again i thinik the burke class destroyers are great and id love to command one of them

TLAM Strike · 09-14-2005, 01:26 AM

Udaloy with Ka-27PL Helx and Bear-F support

And a Western SSK, either Upholder/Victoria or Scorpene (AIP) class.

Bellman · 09-14-2005, 01:39 AM

I would prefer initialy more balance in the gameplay by introducing Russian/Chinese equvalents to the current platforms.

Kapitan · 09-14-2005, 01:40 AM

in saying western SSK what about the german 212 / 214 ?

Skybird · 09-14-2005, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain

in saying western SSK what about the german 212 / 214 ?

Yep. Probably the most silent subs in service today.

Else: give me a carrier!

serious: a russian equivalent to the sim's frigate, helo, recce plane would be politically correct.

But I personally would welcome sub stuff more than any surface or flying things - these simply do not catch my interest.

But I do not even guess about addons. These will take many years to realize, judging by the ridiculously slow pace at which they do their patch - which goes first of any addons. Fix what is there before mess it up again by adding new things.

SeaQueen · 09-14-2005, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

But since we only get one vote....I gotta say Arleigh Burke.

I know... I'd love to see them all. I'm not particularly worried about Western D/E boats being playable, though. Maybe that's just because of my specific interests.

Something I'm curious nobody brought up:

What about an Ohio SSGN?

Fish · 09-14-2005, 07:25 AM

For multiplay, Russian/Chinees equivalent of the FFG,MH-60 and P3, unquestionably!
And some AI Dutch ships, sub.

Molon Labe · 09-14-2005, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain

in saying western SSK what about the german 212 / 214 ?

Yep. Probably the most silent subs in service today.

Else: give me a carrier!

serious: a russian equivalent to the sim's frigate, helo, recce plane would be politically correct.

But I personally would welcome sub stuff more than any surface or flying things - these simply do not catch my interest.

But I do not even guess about addons. These will take many years to realize, judging by the ridiculously slow pace at which they do their patch - which goes first of any addons. Fix what is there before mess it up again by adding new things.

Rounding out the ASW battlespace has nothing to do with political correctness. It's about finishing what was started. Right now, we have a choice of platforms that allows sub v. sub games and Russian/Chinese sub v. US ASW. Adding the counterparts to the new playables gets US subs v Russian ASW in. Being able to turn things around makes for a much better game.

Currently, surface and air warfare are crudely modeled, but the ASW battlespace is close to where it needs to be. It's just more efficient for SCS to finish the ASW component of the game before hitting the surface and air warfare hard. DW (or possibly its sequel) is an evolutionary project which will eventually fully integrate all battlespace into one game. It's not easy to do right, so skipping around is not going to produce as good a product as finishing the parts they started will.

OKO · 09-14-2005, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish

For multiplay, Russian/Chinees equivalent of the FFG,MH-60 and P3, unquestionably!
And some AI Dutch ships, sub.

I definitly agree with that.

View Poll Results: What platform do you want to see as the next playable in DW?
Arleigh Burke IIA-class	29	19.73%
Virginia-class	25	17.01%
Sierra III-class	3	2.04%
Alfa-class	10	6.80%
Sovremenny-class	10	6.80%
Udaloy II-class	33	22.45%
Ticonderoga III/IV-class	15	10.20%
Other	22	14.97%
Voters: 147. You may not vote on this poll

09-13-2005, 07:40 PM	#1
Apocal Planesman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 180 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Your choice on next playable platform in DW? My vote goes to the Arleigh Burke-class Flight IIA (Oscar Austin-class). Take command of arguably the most powerful surface combatant in the world today. In terms of tradeoffs, the Flight IIAs lost their Harpoons (and TACTASS, possibly) in exchange and both CIWS mounts on the all units past the USS Shoup (DDG-86). The upside however, is that it gains a hangar bay for two embarked helos, additional helo handling equipment, and the RIM-162A Evovled SeaSparrow Missile, in quadpacks mounted inside the VLS, which is significantly more effective against modern seaskimming missiles than CIWS. I wonder what everyone else is thinking? Since I can only have so many poll options, my first runner up would be an Oscar II-class SSGN.

09-13-2005, 08:53 PM	#4
Pigfish Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,031 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Udaloy II all the way for me, and equally a western diesel. Think 212A. __________________

09-14-2005, 12:51 AM	#6
Orm Torpedoman Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 117 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Other, A western surface or sub platform that is not American but could be from NATO. __________________ Orm

09-14-2005, 01:14 AM	#7
Kapitan The Ruskie Husky Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In my kennel Posts: 7,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 1	id love to get into an alfa but then again i thinik the burke class destroyers are great and id love to command one of them __________________ "Better is the enemy of good enough" Admiral Sergey Gorshkov http://www.commanders-academy.com http://www.seawolves.org

09-13-2005, 08:47 PM	#2
Molon Labe Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,461 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	The priority really ought to be to add the Russian/Chinese equivalents of the American ASW platforms that DW added to SC, or, by the same logic, a Western diesel-electric. This would round-out the ASW battlespace, which is rather incomplete without the counterparts being in the game. After that, expanding the game into a better surface and air warfare makes sense. That would be the time to start adding more multirole surface vessles. :\|\

09-13-2005, 08:50 PM	#3
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,162 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I would love to see an Arleigh Burke DDG or a new Western Diesel add-on. I definitely voted Arleigh Burke. But if we get a western diesel, I was thinking Japanese Oyashio or Harushio. Even a RAN Collins. And I would love a Virginia SSN add-on as well. But since we only get one vote....I gotta say Arleigh Burke. Sea Demon Edited to add a comment and spell-check.

09-14-2005, 12:13 AM	#5
diver Chief Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 316 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Other. I would love... RAN Collins class subs RN type 23 Duke class frigates RAN OHP FFG, that is with the VLS launched ESSM forward of the mk13

09-14-2005, 01:26 AM	#8
TLAM Strike CIA Analyst Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 11,814 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Udaloy with Ka-27PL Helx and Bear-F support And a Western SSK, either Upholder/Victoria or Scorpene (AIP) class. __________________

09-14-2005, 01:39 AM	#9
Bellman Admiral Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,111 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	I would prefer initialy more balance in the gameplay by introducing Russian/Chinese equvalents to the current platforms. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

09-14-2005, 01:40 AM	#10
Kapitan The Ruskie Husky Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In my kennel Posts: 7,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 1	in saying western SSK what about the german 212 / 214 ? __________________ "Better is the enemy of good enough" Admiral Sergey Gorshkov http://www.commanders-academy.com http://www.seawolves.org

09-14-2005, 07:25 AM	#13
Fish Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 3,809 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For multiplay, Russian/Chinees equivalent of the FFG,MH-60 and P3, unquestionably! And some AI Dutch ships, sub.

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