I seriously don't get it.........

[Damo1977]

How can people rubbish Nazi Germany than give support to the Soviet Union? Also why is Soviet Union allowed to be discussed and not Nazi Germany? IMHO They had ideological differences, but they treated races exactly the same. Maybe its me living in Australia (me being a individual) finding open minds, thats open to such discussion, without pointing a finger or/and maybe the rest of the world is really brainwashed.......


the question/statement should have been,
I don't understand why the USSR is not treated or seen the same way as Nazi Germany.....

[Type941]

Originally Posted by Damo1977

Maybe its me living in Australia (me being a individual) finding open minds, thats open to such discussion, without pointing a finger or/and maybe the rest of the world is really brainwashed.......

So it's either you being an opinionated individual, or the rest is brain washed. Nice way to start a discussion... Was it your topic about Hitler being a nice family man who painted that got locked up the other month? :hmm:

[Damo1977]

I must say yes it was my discussion about "Hitler". That was during my drunken postin forum. SO bascially care? The more I read the forums, the more I must say most of these arguements start from language barriers. All I was basically saying was, us Australians (and probably the Kiwi's), opinionated lot we are, aren't taught to feel guilty.....we are a cross cultural lot, so we don't really care about the past. Its the future we care about!!

But we remember something's like,
Don't worry if the Japs conquer Australia we shall reinvade, as said by a British Prime Minister, while our troops were fighting in some famous desert places.......

Also that "perfumed princess" American General MacCarthur, telling our troops that all you got to defend is a little creek.........when it was 7 kilometers across..... And our Australian Troops did defend it, and defeated the Japanese Army with less than a battalion.. It was the first victory against the Japanese.

Some of us will never forget the truth and hopefully not after the true ANZACS part our company, we shall never forget

[Kapitan]

the USSR post is not focusing on one man stalin lennin kreschev brezhnev gorbachev ect what it details is what happend to cause the fall of the soviet union

its not and repat not meaning stalin was a nice guy realy

it means how and why did the soviet union collapse that means all of it economy people millatery ect not just one man

[Happy Times]

Il play with this.Hitler did evil things but he did good too Things were better in Nazi Germany than in Weimar Rebublic Nazi Germany wasnt really a threat to anyone

[August]

I don't think post war generations of Russians and Germans should be held responsible for their parents and grandparents but the bottom line here is that the world is better off without the USSR or the nazis.

[Kapitan]

thats true but then who would we focus the eye of paranoia on ? our own people? and if we do that then it rather defeats the object cause then your turning the whole place into a stalins ideology

[Damo1977]

Originally Posted by August

I don't think post war generations of Russians and Germans should be held responsible for their parents and grandparents but the bottom line here is that the world is better off without the USSR or the nazis.

I agree deep down in my heart with what you say August, but sometimes revenge surfaces in me.

[Damo1977]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Il play with this.Hitler did evil things but he did good too Things were better in Nazi Germany than in Weimar Rebublic Nazi Germany wasnt really a threat to anyone

Happy Times always the party animal

[Type941]

Than coming back to being 'legal' or 'illegal' to discuss the Nazi. Don't take it as personal attack, but you mentioned Austria - and didn't Austria just few years ago voted a man who supported Hitler into the office? That's 21st century. History is history, but if people in Austria feel that way - may be the view on Hitler is slightly less hostile there? I never noticed it though, since I worked for an Austrian company, but I'm just asking a question here reallly.

I assume that it's possible that I don't know the whole story of that Nazi-follower parliament leader in Austria, and don't want to say you supported that, but it's an amuzing thing to happen in the european union, don't you think?

[Kapitan]

in austria its illigal to display a swastika however theres no law stopping you preaching everything hitler preached.

austrians do nnot recognise hitler as being one of thier own the majority that is

[August]

Originally Posted by Damo1977

I agree deep down in my heart with what you say August, but sometimes revenge surfaces in me, see I controlled it Gizzmoe

It's only been 60 years since WW2 and less than 20 since the fall of the Berlin wall. It's understandable that there will still be strong feelings about both.

[Damo1977]

His name was I believe "Heider"......Anyhow what country are you from type941.......Now I do not belive in personal attacks (even though I did it, but I am extremely sorry about it)......Ok I shall be honest, I see USA going down the same path as Nazi Germany did. And actually I am worried. To be, honest, all I see the difference is they hide behind so called democracy, which the laws can easily be changed if you create enough fear.

[Type941]

Estonia.

[Damo1977]

Hang on b4 I get attacked by UStateans, it is the same here, there maybe a law that the police can hold you for 14 days without charge. I am extremely unhappy about.....