Assange wants asylum from Ecuador!

eddie · 06-19-2012, 09:17 PM

He wants political asylum while running to the Ecuador Embassy!

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...n-ecuador?lite

Rockin Robbins · 06-19-2012, 11:38 PM

Wouldn't it be interesting if they granted it? His plan is just weird enough to succeed.

Skybird · 06-20-2012, 02:53 AM

The Swedes he is right to not trust.

Jimbuna · 06-20-2012, 05:06 AM

This individual must be really desparate.

joegrundman · 06-20-2012, 05:18 AM

I guess he just doesn't believe that the Swedes would go to all this trouble for such a weak rape charge if that was all that was motivating them.

Betonov · 06-20-2012, 06:01 AM

Can't confirm it yet, it's just Facebook chatter but the scuttlebutt is that Ecuador has given the green light for asylum

Oberon · 06-20-2012, 06:12 AM

If he comes out of the embassy he's going to get busted, he's breached his bail conditions....

TarJak · 06-20-2012, 06:28 AM

I'm not sure that Ecuador has much legal basis to grant asylum as the Swedish charges are criminal, not political. He's claiming that the US may do something if he's in Sweden, but why haven't they done anything whilst in the UK? They've had over 12 months to put something up but nothing has eventuated. Why wait until he's in Sweden if they have the evidence now?

From Forbes:

Quote:

There is one part of the whole story which is really rather difficult to understand though. It’s not immediately obvious that Sweden is more likely to extradite him to the US than the UK is. The US/UK extradition treaty allows extradition upon reasonable suspicion as a number of people have found out. It also allows for extradition on the basis of crimes alleged to have been committed in the UK but being charged or tried in the US. There’s no evidence that Sweden’s extradition law is weaker in the protection of the rights of the accused than this.

It is also true that no extradition can or will be made from an EU country to a country that intends to seek the death penalty in any case. Prosecutors must drop that punishment option before any extradition can or will be agreed.

It’s the basic claim that Assange’s lawyers are making which is so confusing. What is it that makes anyone think that extradition from Sweden to the US will be any easier for US prosecutors than extradition from the UK?

BossMark · 06-20-2012, 06:42 AM

Lock him up and throw away the bloody key

joegrundman · 06-20-2012, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

I'm not sure that Ecuador has much legal basis to grant asylum as the Swedish charges are criminal, not political. He's claiming that the US may do something if he's in Sweden, but why haven't they done anything whilst in the UK? They've had over 12 months to put something up but nothing has eventuated. Why wait until he's in Sweden if they have the evidence now?

From Forbes:

in the event that assange's fears are justified, i think it is unlikely that the US intends at all to extradite him to the US.

But i think the US would put pressure on Sweden to find him guilty of the rape charge and make sure the prison sentence is long

Skybird · 06-20-2012, 07:03 AM

Assange has done great injury to US prestige. The US wants him, like they want Manning. In the US, Assange could be sentenced to death, possibly. The rape laws in Sweden are a bloody joke in some parts, women can file charges even over claims that they felt uncomfortable afterwards, that is absurd and one of the most idiotic laws I ever have heared of. The claimed victims did not file charges so far, which is the most dubious. The whole case smells and stinks and looks so rotten that most likely it is rotten. If anyone thinks that the Swedes want him for only questioning, than I feel sorry.

And no, I do not like the man. By what we learned about his character by former colleagues describing him, I must not like him at all. But I like what he did, and think we need more of that getting done, because governments lie, hide, betray and cheat. He ripped off some masks from the US's face, and by revealing the contrast between claim and reality, he earned the desire for revenge by those whom he hurt, and whose illusions he hurt.

Revenge is what it is about, plain and simple.

Jimbuna · 06-20-2012, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossMark

Lock him up and throw away the bloody key

Only when he's in Sweden and they are footing his costs for board and lodgings.

Platapus · 06-20-2012, 05:33 PM

Somehow he needs to get from the Ecuadorian Embassy to an Airfield for a flight to Ecuador. That might be tricky.

TLAM Strike · 06-20-2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Somehow he needs to get from the Ecuadorian Embassy to an Airfield for a flight to Ecuador. That might be tricky.

Wrap him in shipping paper and write "Diplomatic Bag" on his forehead.

Oh wait its been done:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19591...-immunity.html

check out #4.

TarJak · 06-20-2012, 11:22 PM

I'm sure his aim is to stay out of Sweden regardless of what the US do.

06-19-2012, 09:17 PM	#1
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06-19-2012, 11:38 PM	#2
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06-20-2012, 02:53 AM	#3
Skybird One Who Soars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 23,059 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The Swedes he is right to not trust. __________________ The Secret of Happiness is Freedom. The Secret of Freedom is Courage. -Thucydides

06-20-2012, 05:18 AM	#5
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,839 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I guess he just doesn't believe that the Swedes would go to all this trouble for such a weak rape charge if that was all that was motivating them. __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

06-20-2012, 06:01 AM	#6
Betonov Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 4,618 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Can't confirm it yet, it's just Facebook chatter but the scuttlebutt is that Ecuador has given the green light for asylum __________________ Men build things and then we die. It's in our DNA. And when it all falls down we build it right back up again, but this time bigger and better

06-20-2012, 05:06 AM	#4
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06-20-2012, 06:12 AM	#7
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06-20-2012, 06:42 AM	#9
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06-20-2012, 07:03 AM	#11
Skybird One Who Soars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 23,059 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Assange has done great injury to US prestige. The US wants him, like they want Manning. In the US, Assange could be sentenced to death, possibly. The rape laws in Sweden are a bloody joke in some parts, women can file charges even over claims that they felt uncomfortable afterwards, that is absurd and one of the most idiotic laws I ever have heared of. The claimed victims did not file charges so far, which is the most dubious. The whole case smells and stinks and looks so rotten that most likely it is rotten. If anyone thinks that the Swedes want him for only questioning, than I feel sorry. And no, I do not like the man. By what we learned about his character by former colleagues describing him, I must not like him at all. But I like what he did, and think we need more of that getting done, because governments lie, hide, betray and cheat. He ripped off some masks from the US's face, and by revealing the contrast between claim and reality, he earned the desire for revenge by those whom he hurt, and whose illusions he hurt. Revenge is what it is about, plain and simple. __________________ The Secret of Happiness is Freedom. The Secret of Freedom is Courage. -Thucydides

06-20-2012, 05:33 PM	#13
Platapus Rear Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 11,165 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Somehow he needs to get from the Ecuadorian Embassy to an Airfield for a flight to Ecuador. That might be tricky. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

06-20-2012, 11:22 PM	#15
TarJak Sea Knight Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 13,059 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I'm sure his aim is to stay out of Sweden regardless of what the US do. __________________ "there's nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all" - Peter Drucker GWX Website TarJaks Funkraum 2008 Subsim Meet Photo Album

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