Convoy Evasive maneuvers

Dignan · 05-12-2012, 04:57 PM

Got a question about Ai. Running TMO 2.5 and RSRDC.

So I recently set up an attack on a 6 ship convoy with three escorts. As I was making my final observations to fire on my target, one of the escorts must have spotting my periscope because he came charging towards me and the convoy started zig zagging. I adjusted my solution, fired a wide spread of 4 and made the kill anyway.

I evaded and did an end around and set up again for another attack. As the convoy approached I could see they were still doing zig zags. It was probably almost 24 hours later. In previous missions, I've noticed the convoys will stop zig-zagging after 12 hours or less. This one is still doing it almost a day later and they didn't detect me after the initial attack.

Is this a bug, by design in TMO or historically accurate?

donna52522 · 05-12-2012, 06:27 PM

I don't think it's a bug, but I also don't think it's TMO related...From what I have read RSRDC changes the shipping layers and ship zig zags. Someone else may correct me and/or have better info for you.

Dignan · 05-12-2012, 07:10 PM

You are right about RSRD changing the ship courses. As I understood it though, that only meant it increased or decreased the frequency of course changes. What I'm talking about is aggressive zig-zagging by the merchants to avoid being tracked by a sub. It makes trynig to get a solution very difficult.

I feel like they used go back to their normal state of "non-alertness" much quicker but this convoy I spooked went into "evasive mode" and hasn't come out of it for a day and I have not let them spot me again.

Soviet Creeper · 05-12-2012, 07:20 PM

Perhaps something got a quick peek at you and you didnt know it? Other than that sounds like a bug too me.

Hylander_1314 · 05-12-2012, 08:02 PM

Never had that happen yet, but who knows?

If they continually zigzag, use it to your advantage, and keep end rounding them until you sink them all. Then they zigzag their happy little butts to the bottm!

TorpX · 05-14-2012, 01:36 AM

Ducimus put more zigging into the shipping, but I thought that would be overwritten by RSRDC. It does sound odd. Perhaps they were able to hear you?

Dignan · 05-14-2012, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

Ducimus put more zigging into the shipping, but I thought that would be overwritten by RSRDC. It does sound odd. Perhaps they were able to hear you?

Its possible but I would expect that the escorts would be coming for me if they detected me on their hydrophones.

newton1223 · 05-20-2012, 06:52 PM

You're dealing with zags due to the enemy has made contact with you, really more helming than course changes. In general, any time they make contact with you they helm and slow down. Usually they will helm for 12-24 hours after you've remained out of contact for period of time set by the mod, usually 30 minutes. However, I've seen other behavior, some groups the ships split and go in different directions and regroup later. I've yet to find values that explain why reactions can be different

05-12-2012, 04:57 PM	#1
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 701 Downloads: 231 Uploads: 0	Convoy Evasive maneuvers Got a question about Ai. Running TMO 2.5 and RSRDC. So I recently set up an attack on a 6 ship convoy with three escorts. As I was making my final observations to fire on my target, one of the escorts must have spotting my periscope because he came charging towards me and the convoy started zig zagging. I adjusted my solution, fired a wide spread of 4 and made the kill anyway. I evaded and did an end around and set up again for another attack. As the convoy approached I could see they were still doing zig zags. It was probably almost 24 hours later. In previous missions, I've noticed the convoys will stop zig-zagging after 12 hours or less. This one is still doing it almost a day later and they didn't detect me after the initial attack. Is this a bug, by design in TMO or historically accurate? __________________

05-12-2012, 06:27 PM	#2
donna52522 Lady Mariner Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Skyrim Posts: 259 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I don't think it's a bug, but I also don't think it's TMO related...From what I have read RSRDC changes the shipping layers and ship zig zags. Someone else may correct me and/or have better info for you. __________________

05-12-2012, 07:10 PM	#3
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 701 Downloads: 231 Uploads: 0	You are right about RSRD changing the ship courses. As I understood it though, that only meant it increased or decreased the frequency of course changes. What I'm talking about is aggressive zig-zagging by the merchants to avoid being tracked by a sub. It makes trynig to get a solution very difficult. I feel like they used go back to their normal state of "non-alertness" much quicker but this convoy I spooked went into "evasive mode" and hasn't come out of it for a day and I have not let them spot me again. __________________

05-12-2012, 07:20 PM	#4
Soviet Creeper Planesman Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the corner of shame Posts: 185 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Perhaps something got a quick peek at you and you didnt know it? Other than that sounds like a bug too me. __________________ Im a P. Cool guy, eh I ram Battleships and dont afraid of anything.

05-12-2012, 08:02 PM	#5
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,944 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Never had that happen yet, but who knows? If they continually zigzag, use it to your advantage, and keep end rounding them until you sink them all. Then they zigzag their happy little butts to the bottm! __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

05-14-2012, 01:36 AM	#6
TorpX Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,868 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 1	Ducimus put more zigging into the shipping, but I thought that would be overwritten by RSRDC. It does sound odd. Perhaps they were able to hear you?

05-20-2012, 06:52 PM	#8
newton1223 Bilge Rat Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You're dealing with zags due to the enemy has made contact with you, really more helming than course changes. In general, any time they make contact with you they helm and slow down. Usually they will helm for 12-24 hours after you've remained out of contact for period of time set by the mod, usually 30 minutes. However, I've seen other behavior, some groups the ships split and go in different directions and regroup later. I've yet to find values that explain why reactions can be different

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode