I thought boot camp was supposed to be difficult

[Neal Stevens]

Seriously?
http://theweek.com/article/index/224...army-boot-camp

Last week, Army Sgt. Sandra Coast graduated from Basic Combat Training at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri, notching some of the highest physical fitness scores in her company. What makes this particularly remarkable: At age 51, Coast is 222 percent older than the average newly minted Army grunt.

[nikimcbee]

God save us all.

Note to China, I'd invade now, just stay clear of Texas, Wyoming, Utah, and Montana.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

God save us all.

Note to China, I'd invade now, just stay clear of Texas, Wyoming, Utah, and Montana.

And certain parts of Washington, Oregon and northern Idaho. I reckon there be plenty of chainsaws in them areas.

[Stealhead]

Well the requirements change with age.If you are 17 you have to x push in x minutes as the age goes up it gets easier.I do not know what they would be for a 51 year but they surely are much lower than the requirements for your typical 17~24 year old in basic so it is kind of false she did get a higher score perhaps but she also had to perform at a much lower level than her peers and if she was in good shape already which is possible (I have neighbors that are 60 and they work out alot more than most 20 somethings.) Then the requirement would be pretty easy to meet.In fact if you are in good shape the standard PT scores are easy to beat to be honest that is why Elite force training is so hard it really weeds people out.

It would be impressive if she had to the same as a 19 year old female would.I am sure this was one of those publicity maneuvers any way she was already in the Navy which explains the rank and she is in the reserve they must have given her some special job.

[CaptainMattJ.]

hardcore!

[Schöneboom]

"Grambo"?! Dammit, I wanted that name!!!

[mookiemookie]

In light of that story, I'm going to go ahead and order Rosetta Stone Mandarin Edition now.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

It would be impressive if she had to the same as a 19 year old female would.I am sure this was one of those publicity maneuvers any way she was already in the Navy which explains the rank and she is in the reserve they must have given her some special job.

I guess you didn't read the other article.

"I was impressed, because she can do everything the younger soldiers do. She never expected us to feel sorry for her. She even got one of the highest Army physical fitness test scores in the company. She is a prime example that age is just a number. She ran faster than soldiers young enough to be her kids."
-1st Sgt. John Byars

Coast even amazed herself when she came in second place during the test.
"I am still kind of blown away by that," she said. "I even ran faster than all but one female."

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=67259

[Gargamel]

Well to be honest, there a lot of people her age whO could ace the pt exams in basic, even at the youngest reqs. But those people almost never sign up, so you never hear about it. Just look at marathons that have a 70+ group.

[Reece]

She eats spinach!

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I guess you didn't read the other article.

"I was impressed, because she can do everything the younger soldiers do. She never expected us to feel sorry for her. She even got one of the highest Army physical fitness test scores in the company. She is a prime example that age is just a number. She ran faster than soldiers young enough to be her kids."
-1st Sgt. John Byars


http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=67259

It did not say what exactly she did PT wise though in the article posted by Neal only that she performed better than her peers which means that she exceeded the standards.

Your article is more clear but you assumed that I did not read the one posted by Neal which I did.

Assuming the detail in the article that you posted is correct it seems that she did exceed even the younger recruits which that would be pretty good but it does not say clearly what standard she beat.I dont think it means that the Army basic is too easy just that this woman was in better shape than average.I mean look at younger people these days(than my self mid 30s self) a lot of them really do not do a lot of physical activity so Basic is not easy for them PT wise unless they are an athlete.


What I am trying to say is did she exceed the PT standards of a 17-21 year old (the hardest) or did she exceed what ever the lower standard is for her age bracket?Now if she beat the hardest standard I am very impressed but it does not say that she did clearly which implies to me that she scored very well for her age bracket which is still good but not as good as beating the standard for someone half your age.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/...tfem17to21.htm did she beat this one?

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/...s/blf42-46.htm

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/...s/blm52-56.htm or this one did better in a weighted manner?

I am not trying to down talk I just want to know if she really whipped butt or only sort off whipped butt.

[August]

Darn. I'm male, 52 years old with only 7 years prior service. Missed it by that much...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Your article is more clear but you assumed that I did not read the one posted by Neal which I did.

No, I specifically said "I guess you didn't read the other article." I thought it was obvious that you did read Neal's link. The "other" article was linked right there in the first one, so I read it as a matter of course.

Assuming the detail in the article that you posted is correct it seems that she did exceed even the younger recruits which that would be pretty good.I dont think it means that the Army basic is too easy just that this woman was in better shape than average.I mean look at younger people these days(than my self mid 30s self) a lot of them really do not do a lot of physical activity so Basic is not easy for them PT wise unless they are an athlete.

I completely agree. I'm almost 62 now and I'm in better shape than I was at 51, though that's not saying much. Yes, she seems to be in great shape, as are a lot of people her age and mine. I'm working on it, because I still play music and I'm tired of seeing pictures of myself looking like the Michelin man. I only responded the way I did because of your original suggestion that they gaver her special preference, which they didn't.

[TLAM Strike]

Well John Glenn was 77 when he went back up on STS-95. As far as I know he met all the physical requirements as any other astronaut.

I'm sure passing boot camp at 51 can be done as well.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

No, I specifically said "I guess you didn't read the other article." I thought it was obvious that you did read Neal's link. The "other" article was linked right there in the first one, so I read it as a matter of course.


I completely agree. I'm almost 62 now and I'm in better shape than I was at 51, though that's not saying much. Yes, she seems to be in great shape, as are a lot of people her age and mine. I'm working on it, because I still play music and I'm tired of seeing pictures of myself looking like the Michelin man. I only responded the way I did because of your original suggestion that they gaver her special preference, which they didn't.

OK where are on the same wave length. I really would like to know if she killed the 17-21 year old standard because that really would be impressive doable even by some older than her I bet Jack Lalanne could have killed the male 17-21 standard the day before he passed away.My father told me about Ranger training he went through during Vietnam some of the guy strying out even there where not putting forth full effort of course those guys got canned either by instructors or by peer evaluation.

I am sure at the same time some of the youngsters did not put in full effort either.I recall when I was in basic there where only a handful of really fit guys and guys actually putting maximum effort into PT and one of the Sergeants pointed out to lazy ones the 33 year old ex-NBA player who was slaying the youngest standard.