Bernard at the sonar station - kaleun too bothered to do periscope sweep

VonApist · 03-09-2012, 03:36 AM

Aboard U-8 (Type II boat) at a 30m depth - Grid AO95, Sep 1939

"Bernard, make a hydrophone sweep to check that all is clear before we surface"
"Jawohl herr kaleun.......all clear. No sound contacts"
"Are you sure Bernard?"
"Jawohl herr Kaleun"
"Ok. Chief, surface the boat"

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Mittelwaechter · 03-09-2012, 05:03 AM

Two possible scenarios come to mind.

Your screenshot seems to indicate the freighter was right behind you, before you surfaced. Your hydrophones are deaf between 170° and 190° and the first model (GHG) even between 350° and 10°.

If you have your periscope up - even a few centimeters and even under the waterline - your hydrophone operator won't tell you a contact 'in visual range'. You would be able to see it yourself, Herr Kaleun. This ensures he'll reports contacts outside your visual horizon - like incoming DDs or worse.

Bernard may be innocent today.

VonApist · 03-09-2012, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

Two possible scenarios come to mind.

Your screenshot seems to indicate the freighter was right behind you, before you surfaced. Your hydrophones are deaf between 170° and 190° and the first model (GHG) even between 350° and 10°.

If you have your periscope up - even a few centimeters and even under the waterline - your hydrophone operator won't tell you a contact 'in visual range'. You would be able to see it yourself, Herr Kaleun. This ensures he'll reports contacts outside your visual horizon - like incoming DDs or worse.

Bernard may be innocent today.

I know my friend.. It was my fault for not doing a periscope sweep. I just like letting my steam of on Bernard

Hinrich Schwab · 03-09-2012, 06:18 AM

GHG has "fail" written all over it because of that annoying forward baffle.

I dump it as soon as I can. KDB trumps GHG every day of the week.

However, look at the bright side. The ship you found was Polish and not British. You have a chance.

Also, since you are close enough, throw Bernard on their deck while you have a chance.

Rconch · 03-09-2012, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinrich Schwab

GHG has "fail" written all over it because of that annoying forward baffle.

I dump it as soon as I can. KDB trumps GHG every day of the week.

However, look at the bright side. The ship you found was Polish and not British. You have a chance.

Also, since you are close enough, throw Bernard on their deck while you have a chance.

I have tried to throw him off before-he just keeps coming back and back and back.
We all sail with him.

Sailor Steve · 03-09-2012, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonApist

I just like letting my steam of on Bernard

That's what he's there for. As long as we do stupid things we'll have - and need - Bernard to blame them on.

Hinrich Schwab · 03-10-2012, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rconch

I have tried to throw him off before-he just keeps coming back and back and back.
We all sail with him.

Bernard is like a bad penny; he always turns up.

Luno · 03-10-2012, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

Your hydrophones are deaf between 170° and 190° and the first model (GHG) even between 350° and 10°.

Strange, if I'm in the hydrophone's chair, I can hear ships behind and directly in front of my boat (using GHG system). Is that a bug that can be fixed?

Mittelwaechter · 03-10-2012, 03:30 PM

This limit is not for you but for the hydrophone operator. As a Kaleun you would have asked him for contacts and the game limits the quality of his answers to the equipments capabilities, the overall environmental conditions as to the skill of your operator.

If you choose to play in an arcade style you may localize contacts in heavy fog with your binos up scanning the horizon and hitting the space bar until the attack symbol for your deck gun shows up.

As far as I know there is no fix for this hydrophone 'crack of reality'.

Luno · 03-10-2012, 03:43 PM

I'm generally not for exploiting flaws in the game, even though I'm probably doing this so much unintentionally (I get the nagging suspicion that things are too easy if I can sink 8 ships in 6 patrols at 100% difficulty). I do realize however, that it's impossible to make a 100% realistic sub-sim.

I prefer to listen in because I like to do things on the boat. The captain also isn't really navigating or doing torpedo-angle calculations, but it's fun.

03-09-2012, 03:36 AM	#1
VonApist Sparky Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greece Posts: 153 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Bernard at the sonar station - kaleun too bothered to do periscope sweep Aboard U-8 (Type II boat) at a 30m depth - Grid AO95, Sep 1939 "Bernard, make a hydrophone sweep to check that all is clear before we surface" "Jawohl herr kaleun.......all clear. No sound contacts" "Are you sure Bernard?" "Jawohl herr Kaleun" "Ok. Chief, surface the boat" Uploaded with ImageShack.us __________________ "Submariners are a special brotherhood, either all come to the surface or no one does. On a submarine, the phrase all for one and one for all is not just a slogan, but reality.” -- VADM Rudolf Golosov

03-09-2012, 05:03 AM	#2
Mittelwaechter Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 606 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Two possible scenarios come to mind. Your screenshot seems to indicate the freighter was right behind you, before you surfaced. Your hydrophones are deaf between 170° and 190° and the first model (GHG) even between 350° and 10°. If you have your periscope up - even a few centimeters and even under the waterline - your hydrophone operator won't tell you a contact 'in visual range'. You would be able to see it yourself, Herr Kaleun. This ensures he'll reports contacts outside your visual horizon - like incoming DDs or worse. Bernard may be innocent today. __________________ Arrest the 1%!

03-10-2012, 03:30 PM	#9
Mittelwaechter Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 606 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	This limit is not for you but for the hydrophone operator. As a Kaleun you would have asked him for contacts and the game limits the quality of his answers to the equipments capabilities, the overall environmental conditions as to the skill of your operator. If you choose to play in an arcade style you may localize contacts in heavy fog with your binos up scanning the horizon and hitting the space bar until the attack symbol for your deck gun shows up. As far as I know there is no fix for this hydrophone 'crack of reality'. __________________ Arrest the 1%!

03-10-2012, 03:43 PM	#10
Luno Planesman Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 199 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	I'm generally not for exploiting flaws in the game, even though I'm probably doing this so much unintentionally (I get the nagging suspicion that things are too easy if I can sink 8 ships in 6 patrols at 100% difficulty). I do realize however, that it's impossible to make a 100% realistic sub-sim. I prefer to listen in because I like to do things on the boat. The captain also isn't really navigating or doing torpedo-angle calculations, but it's fun. __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

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03-09-2012, 06:18 AM	#4
Hinrich Schwab Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 740 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	GHG has "fail" written all over it because of that annoying forward baffle. I dump it as soon as I can. KDB trumps GHG every day of the week. However, look at the bright side. The ship you found was Polish and not British. You have a chance. Also, since you are close enough, throw Bernard on their deck while you have a chance.